Used Volkswagen XL1 With 10 Miles On Odo For Sale on Autotrader

1 month ago by Jeff Perez 38

2015 VW XL1

Only 200 examples were sold to the public.

Remember the Volkswagen XL1? How could you forget it. The dramatic-looking vehicle made its production debut in 2013 at the Geneva Motor Show, and promised a more efficient future for a marque that would soon find itself at the heart of a massive diesel scandal. Nonetheless, it remains an interesting offering – and this particular example is for sale.

The car is available on Autotrader U.K. by way of Lookers Volkswagen Newcastle. It’s one of just 200 examples sold to the general public, and has driven just 10 miles (16 kilometers) since its debut. The exterior is coated in a futuristic-looking white finish, while the cabin is a bit less understated with red, white, and grey cloth seats. 

Power is sent to the rear wheels via a two-cylinder diesel engine paired with plug-in hybrid motor. A 5.5 kilowatt-hour battery pack allows for an electric range of 31 miles (50 kilometers), while overall fuel economy is listed at 260 miles per gallon on the U.S. cycle. Though efficient, the XL1 returns a measly 75 horsepower (55 kilowatts). This particular example comes paired to a seven-speed DSG.

2015 VW XL1

Though it may sound slow on paper, the XL1 actually manages a decent 0-62 mile-per-hour (100 kilometers per hour) time of 11.9 seconds, and continues on to a top speed of 98 mph (157 kmh). A low drag coefficient of 0.189 and a curb weight of just 1,753 pounds (795 kilograms) are in part to thank. The entire body is constructed of lightweight carbon fiber, and is draped over a magnesium-alloy subframe. For reference, the XL1 is about 580 pounds (263 kilograms) lighter than the current Mazda Miata.

2015 VW XL1

Though it was only available in Europe, brand new the XL1 would set buyers back a hefty $146,000 (€111,000) in 2013. This particular example is slightly cheaper, though – the seller is asking £99,999 ($131,646). So if you’re in the market for something unique, call up the good folks at Lookers Volkswagen Newcastle. 

Source: Autotrader U.K. via The Truth About Cars

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38 responses to "Used Volkswagen XL1 With 10 Miles On Odo For Sale on Autotrader"

  1. wavelet says:

    It was always an interesting car, and I always thought it unfortunate that basically nothing from its tech or design ever made it to production cars.
    I also recall the very impressive Cd of 0.189 was in part due ot the lack of side mirrors… I thought that was still a legal requirement both in Europe & the US, so how did VW get the car homologated?

    1. msrural says:

      In looking at the images, one notices it has a rear view system in the conventional location. The question is, is it a camera system or an SLR-type system, done with mirrors and lenses (in which case, it might pass the side mirror requirement).

    2. God/Bacardi says:

      It is a good question…First ecomodders have been illegally removing/modifying them for decades so there are data points…Source says it’s .03 Cd…
      Next, they are actually cameras with displays…
      Finally it states that VW was able to allow to not have mirrors in it’s hometown of Germany, my best guess is it was just for that car as you’d imagine other automakers including VW, omit the mirrors…
      Bonus, engineers were mad that VW forced them to use Cd robbing VW emblems front and rear…

      http://www.metrompg.com/posts/mirrors.htm
      https://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104

  2. Warren says:

    A car like this could do 200 miles EPA on a 30 kWh pack. I waited 40 years, but nothing like this will ever be mass produced. We are negotiating with the planet for a better deal…$30K, trailer pulling, 400 mile range SUV, or we walk. 🙂

    1. floydboy says:

      The planet will always get its way.

  3. SJC says:

    We are preparing ourselves for the day when oil is scarce and costs a lot more. HEV, PHEV, EV cars trucks and buses will help.

    1. SparkEV says:

      Oil will not be scarce any time soon, if ever, especially if more robots do the work. While finite, there’s enough for hundreds of years or even thousands of years as technology progresses.

      Cars did not replace horses due to horse scarcity. Same will be true with oil vs other stuff.

      1. Nick says:

        Yep, the stone age didn’t end since we ran out of stone. We didn’t stop emitting CFCs since we ran out of carbon or fluorine.

      2. Dav8or says:

        Agreed. Eventually most everyone will realize that a BEV is just a better car. That’s when sales will take off.

      3. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        “Oil will not be scarce any time soon, if ever, especially if more robots do the work. While finite, there’s enough for hundreds of years or even thousands of years as technology progresses.”

        Have you bought into the tinfoil hat conspiracy theory fantasy of a near-infinite supply of “abiotic oil”? Good luck with that…

        “Cars did not replace horses due to horse scarcity.”

        Wrong analogy. Petroleum distillates, starting with kerosene, certainly did replace whale oil, and that most certainly was due to scarcity.

        We can already see the same thing happening with petroleum. As the easily harvested whales were killed off by whalers, they shifted to different whale species and more remote fishing grounds. Similarly, we’re already seeing a shift from normal petroleum drilling to harder to harvest resources such as tar sands, and more expensive extraction techniques such as fracking.

        Pretending that that the same thing that happened to the whale oil industry won’t happen to the petroleum industry — that it’s not already happening — is burying your head in the (tar) sand.

        1. SparkEV says:

          If you think we’re going to run out of oil, your tin foil hat is on too tight and might be restricting blood flow to your brain. They’ve been saying that for decades, as far back as 1950’s. So-called evidence they provide is that some countries’ production decreased in some cases, but that’s nothing to do with running out of oil.

          Only thing “running out” is surface oil, but when the robots get cranking, even the stuff way deep will be cheap. That’s virtually inexhaustible in our lifetime (next several hundred years).

          You are using the wrong analogy since whale oil was mainly for lubrication. But to entertain your too tight tin foil hat, petroleum is superior (cheaper, easier) so even if there’s infinite supply of whale oil, petroleum would’ve taken over whale oil.

          If you think “running out” is the only way to switch to EV, that will never happen. We’ll have Mr. Fusion and flying cars before we run out of oil.

  4. Vexar says:

    I wonder if it has the original Bosch diesel cheat box.

    1. L'amata says:

      I don’t think they need a cheat Box in this one , because Hybrids, I believe Are Emission Test Except..

  5. unlucky says:

    Note that the 260mpg is using US gallons and the figure is due to how the NEDC treats plug-in hybrids. It actually gets something like 120mpg when running on its ICE. The rest is a boost in mpg figures due to operating in charge depletion mode for over half the test. The NEDC figure is produced as if the car were fully recharged every 47mi and then that electricity not counted in the consumption.

    So, essentially, this 260mpg figure is like the Volt’s 230mpg figure GM first exhibited before the EPA defined a test regimen for PHEVs. It’s about time the NEDC is revised to not inflate PHEV figures too.

    Also note that like the Volt’s 230mpg figure you could achieve this figure in real world use, although it’d be a little harder than on a Volt since the fuel tank on this thing is smaller, you’d have to make shorter trips. But charging twice a day on a normal commute probably would do it.

    Also note that this is a VW Diesel from that time period when that meant you could be quite certain it is cheating on emissions.

    Interesting? Sure. But this thing is a relic now, not an example of promise never fulfilled. A Volt or a Prius Prime bring PHEVs to the masses very well compared to this thing.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      “Also note that like the Volt’s 230mpg figure you could achieve this figure in real world use…”

      Absolutely not. That’s fake MPG, not real MPG.

      The Volt’s dashboard display may read “MPG”, but what MPG (Miles Per Gallon of fuel) actually is, is a measure of energy efficiency in terms of fuel consumed per mile.

      If the car is partially powered by electricity over the course of those miles, then it’s not “miles per gallon of gasoline”. It’s “miles per some unspecified number of kWh of electricity plus one gallon of gasoline.”

      Not the same thing, by any logical or reasonable stretch of the term “MPG”.

      1. unlucky says:

        Useless semantic battle. It’s 230 miles per gallon of gas burned. MPG.

  6. James says:

    An amazing collector car, no doubt. I’d buy it fast if I were Jay Leno.

    10 miles on the clock may indicate it won’t pass registration without conventional side mirrors.

    I would try to engineer some kind of suction cup mirrors that mount on the portion of the side window glass that is fixed.

    1. Tom Moloughney says:

      Funny, I was going to comment: “Paging Jay Leno”

      I actually was one of a few people in the US that got to take a ride in one. They had one at the 2013 LA Auto Show and only allowed about 15 people to go for a ride and I was there early so I signed up before the list was full.

      It was really tiny inside, and this was a pre-production model so it wasn’t as polished as the customer cars were. It was really loud inside and you felt every slight bump in the pavement. I wasn’t all that impressed, but figured the production cars must be much better built.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        “I wasn’t all that impressed, but figured the production cars must be much better built.”

        From what I’ve read, the production car was the same. This was a car that made absolutely no compromises for passenger comfort or convenience. As I said in an earlier post, I don’t understand why VW put it into production, even very limited production. It’s interesting as a science project, but not practical as a daily driver.

    2. Rad says:

      You only need a rear view mirror on the left (driver’s) side in the US. Right is optional. If this is right hand drive, then maybe only on the right.

      1. unlucky says:

        In the US you are required to have two wing mirrors if you cannot see out the back. So panel vans must have two wing mirrors.

        And this, with no rear window, must also have two wing mirrors.

        1. Rad says:

          Did not know. My first three cars as a teenager only had one outside mirror.

  7. James says:

    It’s kind of sad that in 2013, famous German engineers could only pull those kinds of numbers by throwing practicality out the window.

    Give me a 2000 Honda Insight and $5,000 in lithium batteries + power electronics and I could shame this thing, albeit seating only two.

    Volt, Prime, Golf GTE or Ioniq PHEV blow this thing away.

    All that carbon fiber, aero greatness and no practical windows or mirrors…

    …But I still want it…

    1. DurkleGT says:

      A buddy of mine actually gets just about 120 miles out of the ~24 kWh in his O.G. Insight BEV. It’s pretty awesome! He and I have theorized how we could repackage a leaf underhood stack and battery into the car and have a surprisingly quick and decently-ranged vehicle.

      1. Warren says:

        Are you talking about Mark Bishop? Or is there another Insight EV?

  8. Eco says:

    Superb aerodynamics!

  9. James says:

    Hot rodding for ages has meant big horsepower, giant tires and all sorts if speed-related mods.

    Where’s the New Age of hot rodder? Why are all mod kits for EVs just cosmetic? Where’s our geek squad of creative engineers?

    I thought by now, we’d see geeks modding LEAFs, Volt’s and Primes with aero disk wheels, wheel pants, aero duck tails, carbon fiber hoods, doors and super lightweight seats. Lower an EV to get max range, maybe even go way rad and put i3 wheels on an EV. Folding mirrors at 45+ mph…

    Pump that 70 mile commuter EV to 300 miles, man! We don’t need no stinking rods! Hot stators!

    So far, hot rod EVs for the street are so very few and far between.

    I love stuff like that Lotus Evora with the Volt battery pack and Tesla motor…and then there’s the crazy man who welded two VW Vanagons together with a Tesla motor…What happened to THAT guy??? Did it blow up? Is he in a mental care facility? 🙂

    1. “Where’s the New Age of hot rodder?” – in Eco Modding: http://ecomodder.com/

    2. “and then there’s the crazy man who welded two VW Vanagons together with a Tesla motor…What happened to THAT guy???” – you mean – the Stretchla? – right here: http://cafeelectric.com/stretchla/

  10. DJ says:

    Could have gotten a new one for less than that awhile back!

    https://insideevs.com/vw-xl1-spain-last-one/

  11. SparkEV says:

    Why would anyone buy this POS over far more capable SparkEV? Heck for the money, I’d go for Tesla P100DL plus a SparkEV (smaller, easier to park).

    1. God/Bacardi says:

      You don’t want to #aeroshame your friends?

      1. SparkEV says:

        Actually, I shame gassers / hybrids with my brick-like aero SparkEV getting better efficiency than them. xl1 is just a gasser for my commute, and less efficient, and a diesel at that.

        One thing I might do is to rip out the guts of it and replace them with SparkEV drive train, but that can just as easily be done with custom sheet metal work on SparkEV. Frankly, I don’t see any value in xl1.

  12. Apkungen says:

    If I bought it I’d remove the freaking diesel engine, geerbox, diesel tank and crap and put in some tesla modules. Say you can remove 100kg. That would mean an additional 20kwh of batteries.

    The xl1 uses between 50-100wh/km so with a 25kwh battery i could go 250-500km depending on the speed :O

  13. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    The VW XL1 was about the purest example of extreme engineering that I’ve ever seen in a passenger car. The designers even put in staggered seating in the front seats; the passenger’s seat is so far offset (behind) the driver’s that, according to a test drive report, it’s impossible to engage in a normal conversation where you can look in the face of the person you’re talking to.

    I am certainly astonished that VW ever put this into even very limited production. What was the point? As wavelet already noted, VW certainly didn’t put any of the innovations in this car into its regular production cars.

    Altho it’s an interesting case of a product of extreme engineering actually being put into (very) limited production, I’m not sure what benefit VW got out of putting something this impractical into production.

    1. SparkEV says:

      You’re talking about limited production from a large manufacturer. If you go off into small builds, there’s tons more interesting stuff.

      http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/an-illustrated-history-of-automotive-aerodynamics-in-three-parts/

      Here’s one from Ford that I hoped that they bring to market, Cd of 0.137. It sold for $20K in 2002, though it was in rough shape.

  14. Wre says:

    See any change

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