In 2015, Tesla Superchargers Spread Like Mushrooms – Video

JAN 7 2016 BY MARK KANE 77

Tesla Supercharger #100 in Hamilton Township, New Jersey

Tesla Supercharger #100 in Hamilton Township, New Jersey

Tesla Superchargers are spreading like mushrooms according to the latest video that presents the progress.

Just about two years ago, there was opening of 100th Supercharger station and now Tesla lists 585 sites:


585 Supercharger stations with 3,397 Superchargers


The unofficial supercharge.info notes even several more stations ready. In the U.S., the Supercharger count stands at nearly 250 and China is second with nearly 100.

Each of the stations have multiple charging spots (from to 2 to over 10) and there is around 120 kW or sometimes 135 kW available for each two spots (shared between them).

Tesla Superchargers in North America - early January 2016

Tesla Superchargers in North America – early January 2016

Tesla Superchargers in Europe - early January 2016

Tesla Superchargers in Europe – early January 2016

Tesla Superchargers in Asia-Pacific - early January 2016

Tesla Superchargers in Asia-Pacific – early January 2016

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Karl
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Karl

And this is why my next ev may be the model 3 vs the bolt, even though I would usually go for the lower cost option.

OlderThanDirt
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You are so correct Karl!!!!
Plus NO legacy manufacture has their heart and soul in EV’s……NONE!!! We can talk about the car all day but if their dealers HATE them then EV’s go no where. I learned my lesson with GM’s Volt. GM is only in it for compliance.

ffbj
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ffbj

Harsh! Certainly you have some points, but this is the new GM.

martinwinlow
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martinwinlow

I would say Carlos Ghosn (Nissan CEO) has pretty much bet the farm on EVs – certainly he has staked his own career on EV success. He does seem to really ‘get it’, too. It would be interesting to put him and Mr Musk together for a chat and see what came out of it.

I would love it if GM really ‘got it’ too but I think there are still far too many petrol-luddites there and far too much fossil-fueled inertia, due to its size, to allow them to embrace EVs quick enough to save them. We’ll see! MW

Philip
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Philip

I take it you’re writing ‘tongue in ckeek’ fftj.

Craig Capurso
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Craig Capurso

That is true. Nisan talks all the time about how the company want to sell more EV’s but the dealers are a joke they will block the meager charging station with gas guzzlers and I have never found a EV informed person at a dealer yet.

ClarksonCote
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ClarksonCote

The compliance diatribe is tiresome.

The Volt gains them ZERO compliance credits. It is the counter-point to anyone who suggests they are in it for compliance.

And yet, people continue to point to it and scream that it’s a compliance vehicle. Misinformed.

Philip
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Philip

Hi ClarksonCote. Doesn’t the good mpg rating of the Volt help to bring down the average for the whole GM range, thereby making it possible for them to sell their less economical SUVs in California?

I’m not sure of your rules in the US.

zzzzzzzzzz
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zzzzzzzzzz

By the time Model 3 will go into mass production, you will have more CCS stations in the US than Tesla ones, and not just in big cities. You may wait and see. Model X was supposed to be in 2013, and it is still in “signature” mode in 2016. Tesla’s own network has no chance against network from all major automakers if battery cars will ever grow out of niche.

Ash09
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Ash09

That’s what Tesla CEO Elon Musk’s goal was, to get other automakers to make EV’s. So I’d still call it a win, and so would Elon.

finecadmin
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Toyota, meanwhile, begging oil companies for pumps, and Hyundai giving up.

jelloslug
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jelloslug

But I thought that FC was the wave of the future?

vdiv
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vdiv

and it will always be 😉

Foo
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Foo

A wave good-bye.

MDEV
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MDEV

This is more important than Model S/X as a strategic business, how can any other car company compete with Tesla and the supercharges? Even if a big player decided to build their own how long is going to take. In fact they are too big and old mind that I don’t see any other car maker going this way.

Brandon
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Brandon

Right. IMO a well done and usable rollout will need to be done by a fast charge company. They could also get help from the auto makers to get it started.

Dan
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Dan

Umm, what this video proves is that half the network was put together in just the last year, and that too my a rather small, financially weak entity. The barrier to entry is really low and the costs are trivial. If and when any of the other manufacturers need such a network, I wouldn’t be surprised if Chademo or CCS match Tesla in a matter of months.

TomArt
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TomArt

I really hate to see either of those two become standards – what a ridiculous plug! Tesla’s charging plugs are far superior in form and function. The term I used to see was “frankenplug” – that’s what CCS and Chad are.

Jahav
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Jahav

Companies like Fastned will build their own.

According to Fastned, a station is a break even with only 15 charges a day (4 fast charging points).

suresh
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suresh

tesal supercharger in jordan??

Pete Bauer
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Pete Bauer

Europe has a higher concentration of superchargers and they should buy more Tesla’s than USA.

Guys in Europe, don’t be loyal to your own gas guzzlers which pollutes your small countries and drains away your money to OPEC countries.

Now Tesla should setup more stations in China.

Are they still providing free charge, at some point, they should start charging nominal fee.

Alan
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Alan

Most of us here in the UK are waiting for an affordable 200 mile EV to land.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if market share went from 1% to 10% virtually overnight once this happens.

GM have no plans to make a RHD Bolt but it can’t be much longer before someone (Nissan most likely) comes up with the goods !

None of us want to keep giving money to the Middle East / Russia !

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

Alan said:

“Most of us here in the UK are waiting for an affordable 200 mile EV to land.

“It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if market share went from 1% to 10% virtually overnight once this happens.”

That would require auto makers to ramp up production of plug-in EVs by 10x overnight.

Unfortunately, that’s not physically possible. Auto manufacturing takes considerable investment of capital, and years, to ramp up production significantly.

Let’s not make the mistake of thinking that EV manufacturing can be ramped up as fast as it can be for consumer electronics. Making automobiles is heavy manufacturing. It’s not like making iPods or computers, which are products of light manufacturing. And nobody, not even Apple, can change that reality.

Carsten
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Carsten

A lot of Europeans have only 1 car per household. The electricity prices in Europe are way higher than hear in the US. You can get cheap, brand new cars for way under 10kUSD there. I am European, had a single family car over there and drive an iMiEV here in the US every day as a commuter. With current conditions for EV’s in Europe, I might buy one in Norway or NL, but nowhere else.

miggy
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miggy

The Model S and X are too big for a lot of the UK Roads, just wait until the Model 3 comes along.

SJC
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SJC

Ford would have liked to own their gas stations 100 years ago, great move Tesla.

Breezy
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Breezy

There are actually more CCS stations (409) and CHAdeMO stations (983) than Superchargers (248) in North America, but the Superchargers are definitely better located, more reliable, and have an average of 6 connectors per station.

vdiv
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vdiv

and much easier to use, not to mention the reliability.

Someone out there
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Someone out there

And since the cars have a longer range not as many stations are needed in the first place! Coverage is a better metric than number of stations IMO,

ItsNotAboutTheMoney
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ItsNotAboutTheMoney
For a fast-charge network coverage is the initial problem. The long-term problem is capacity. Each charger is capable of providing _charging time_. Charging time per car = number of miles charged / rate of charge. Capacity in cars = charging time / charging time per car. In order to maximize the benefit of each charging station you want to reduce the charging time per car. To reduce charging time per car you want to: – lower the number of miles charged – increase the rate of charge People sometimes say that the extra range gives diminishing returns, because each increase in range covers a smaller number of trips. But those people aren’t thinking from the point of view of trying to provide a usable fast-charging network. Although weight increases reduces the range benefit a bit, as you increase the battery capacity, you both: – increase the range – increase the rate of charge When you increase the range, the driver can cover more of their miles by charging at home. Based on the latest US Travel Survey numbers I’ve seen, 100 mile trips (where I believe trip is one way), are 1% of all trips and 11% of household miles.… Read more »
ItsNotAboutTheMoney
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ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Corollary: I should double check my spelling and wording.

… the benefits of increased battery capacity which apply to _both_ of the significant factors in network capacity…

JC
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JC

Big battery improves charging & discharging rates
Improving hereby regen (braking) & acceleration

The bigger the battery the faster it can be charged
That’s why a tesla 70 & 90 are charged at a supercharger in +/-same amount of time

So due to bigger batterys one needs les superchargers & chargingtime, making the network more efficient

The speed of charging is only relevant if the battery is able to accept it
Every batterychemistry has a maximum rate at which it can be charged (C)
This also why a big Tesla battery endures much less stress when it is being supercharged at 120kw then other EV’s at 50kw
70kw -> 120kw = -/+ 1,5 c
24kw -> 50kw = -/+ 2c

jelloslug
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jelloslug

In reality there are more Supercharger PLUGS than either of the other standards.

Breezy
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Breezy

Also true. That’s what I was getting at with the average of 6 connectors/plugs per station. CHAdeMO averages 1.3 plugs per station. CCS averages 1.5.

sven
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sven

You forgot to mention that Superchargers are faster. Much faster.

Breezy
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Breezy

Yep, faster too.

offib
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offib

Hell Above! There’s no mushrooms in Ireland, still!! When are they going to get here?!

Nichen
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Nichen

I think they got other charging options in Ireland…if you think about it Superchargers in Ireland isn’t really that necessary if you have a Tesla.

ffbj
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ffbj

Aye, and it should be Shamrocks a popping up, should it not b laddy buck.

offib
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offib

Ah, feck shamrocks! You can’t do sweet F.A with them!

i hope someone noticed i was talking about shrooms…

miggy
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miggy

And none in New Zealand either, when both counties are suit EV’s.

offib
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offib

But the size of are markets halt us. In any move to increase Rapid Chargers in a country, or introduce new plug-in models, it makes sense to invest in a market that buys plenty.

Ireland only has roughly 70 quick chargers, and while we have 10 or so plugins to buy. Only 3 or 4 sold in the double digits.

This is compared to the near UK with well over 1000 RCs and at every service station. And an abundance amount of plugins to sell. For example, Tesla os technically for sale in Ireland, but the neatest Tesla store is in London!

Then there’s the Outlander PHEV. They never imported enough here. To make it worse, they’re not selling the refreshed PHEVs!

To show how much a size of a market can influence investment, the UK saw the Outlander PHEV as its best selling plug in in 2015. 40 were sold in Ireland in 2015.

Chris
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Chris

GM could make it interesting if they installed chargers available to Volt and Bolt drivers at the 3000 dealers they were bragging about yesterday.

pk
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pk

No one wants to go out of their way to find a charger at some dealer while traveling. That’s why superchargers are strategically located along major freeways in between cities.
Also, like many Nissan installed chargers, they would be
1. not well maintained
2. often ICE’d
3. not available outside of the dealer’s business hours.

jelloslug
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jelloslug

Every dealer installed charger I have ever seen cannot be access after hours. Most of them were blocked during the day also.

Karl
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Karl

I routinely use chargers at two different Nissan dealers in my area.

Brandon
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Brandon

Right pk. Very true statement. I see it on PlugShare quite a bit. There’s no denying it. In my view fast chargers at dealers for the most part can only be seen as a jump start for the infrastructure… a temporary steeping stone til there are reliable Supercharger style CCS and CHAdeMO 150 kW fast charge stations along highways operated by a for profit company.

Three Electrics
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Three Electrics

If a company with junk credit and no cash can roll out these stations, anyone can. They are cheap and easy to make. It just takes will.

As an aside, Tesla needs to focus more on L3 destination charging and less on these national corridors. Most people ski and camp at remote locations more than they drive from city to city, coast to coast.

Tech01x
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Tech01x

using L3 for destination charging is the wrong way to about it. Tesla has a very active destination charging program that has installed around as many plugs as their Supercharging program.

jelloslug
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jelloslug

L3 destination charging is the opposite of what is needed. The last thing you want is an L3 in a place were people are going to be parked for hours on end. That’s where you put banks of L2s at.

Jeff D
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Jeff D

A few L3 chargers in a city might not be a totally bad idea because it would be useful for apartment and condo dwellers that can’t charge at home or work. Stopping for 5 minutes at an L3 like they would at a gas station would give them decent range to get around until they could park for a longer time at an L2 and get a more complete charge.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

L2 charging is the right hookup for destination charging, where your car will spend hours sitting in one spot. If you need faster charging, then Supercharging is the right solution.

Sitting for only 5 minutes at a L3 charger is as silly as stopping at a gas station and getting only 1/2 a gallon of gas. It’s not that L3 charging is completely useless for a Tesla car; it’s that the money spent on installing a L3 charger would be far better spent on either a well-placed destination charger, or else a Supercharger station.

L3 chargers are needed for PEVs which can’t accept the fast charging a Supercharger offers. Tesla cars shouldn’t need them, and Tesla certainly shouldn’t be wasting money installing them.

Saint
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Saint

GM just spent $400 million on an investment in Lyft? Why can’t they spend $25 million on fast chargers located next to Superchargers. Tesla has done the location search, just put yours next to theirs. It is to bad that the highest paid execs are not the brightest.

MikeG
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MikeG

Because it is the corporate culture of GM to make bad decisions.

Over and over again.

Brandon
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Brandon

Give GM some time. Right now we are a few months away from Bolt production. Lets see what they do in the next year or two as the cars are there that will use the CCS fast chargers. I’m not saying that they shouldn’t be planning, but lets see what they do when there are enough Bolts around to use the chargers. Kind of like BMW is doing now..

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

Saint asked:

“Why can’t they [GM] spend $25 million on fast chargers located next to Superchargers.”

GM and other legacy auto makers have a disincentive to install EV chargers for the same reason they have a disincentive to build compelling EVs and sell them in large numbers.

Why would GM spend money on building something to help EVs compete with their own gasmobile sales?

Get Real
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Get Real

3 Electrics said, “Most people ski and camp at remote locations more than they drive from city to city, coast to coast.”

So I guess all the freeways between cities with thousands of cars on them have a majority of those drivers going to “remote locations” rather then other cities??

Not!

TomArt
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TomArt

You can click to view Tesla’s high-power wall connectors (home/destination chargers) on Tesla’s Supercharger page. Mostly businesses, like hotels, bed-and-breakfasts, etc.

PVH
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PVH

Every large fuel station should have its supercharger. Some countries are yet planning this if I understood it well. This would improve the reliabily issue. I don’t know about the US but here in Europe fuel stations are making more profits with their shops than with the gas they sell. So for them having EV owners coming increases their turnover/profits in their shops. Thus those fuel station owners will make sure those superchargers are well maintained.

John
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John

I keep waiting for gas stations to get into the Fast Charging game. It’s common knowledge that they make more on drinks and food than gas…they should be doing everything they can to keep people coming there.

michfin
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michfin

I have no doubt they will as soon as the 250+ mile EV car count goes up over 500k. So far only about 50k Tesla’s in the US.

Tesla knows that people won’t go all in unless the infrastructure is there first. Companies won’t build the infrastructure unless the customers exist.

Boris
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Boris

I think it will be the fast food chains (with quick chargers) that will really replace today’s gas stations…

PVH
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PVH

Could be because gas stations will likely have problems with their gas suppliers doing this, unless imposed by law.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

John said:

“I keep waiting for gas stations to get into the Fast Charging game. It’s common knowledge that they make more on drinks and food than gas…they should be doing everything they can to keep people coming there.”

Placing EV super-fast chargers at gas station locations may make sense, once we get PEVs that can be charged, say, 300 miles in 10 minutes or less.

At the current state of the tech, fast-charging is a very bad fit for a typical convenience store / gas station. Nobody wants to hang out in a convenience store for 20-45 minutes, and no gas station owner wants the average customer’s car occupying space in his parking lot for that long.

John
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John

And can you imagine the ruckus if they posted the price on their sign:

1 Gallon Premium $2.50
1 Gallon Regular $2.00
1 Gal/Equiv. Electric $0.50

Tech01x
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Tech01x

There really is an untold story about Tesla’s destination charging program. Look at Tesla’s “Find Us” page and select only Destination Charging. There are vastly more locations with Tesla’s HPWC’s at 40 to 80A than Superchargers. Then add in the Supercharger map and you’ll see the vast charging footprint that Tesla has been building out.

This is on top of the J1772’s and CHAdeMO’s that Model S owners can use.

michfin
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michfin

I can’t wait to see when hotels are going to get into the EV charging business. Put a few level 2 chargers with charge point and charge $10-15 for over night charging.

They not only will make money on the charging they will have more customers at the hotel.

TomArt
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TomArt

When you go to Tesla’s Supercharger page, you will see that many of the destination chargers are hotels, B&Bs, and the occasional restaurant and museum or other tourist attraction.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

Yes, it was quite a surprise for me, recently, to read that Tesla had installed about as many destination charger charge points as Supercharger charge points.

I guess from what you say, the destination chargers are spread out more, not having as many charging stalls per location as Superchargers. That certainly makes sense, and again shows good planning on the part of Tesla Motors.

Counter-Strike Cat
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So there are worldwide less Supercharger plugs, than Japan alone has CHAdeMO plugs.

Tech01x
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Tech01x

Note that more than 50% of CHAdeMO plugs in Japan are 25 kW or less. That’s roughly analogous to Tesla’s Destination Charging Program. In many destinations, charging for 2 hours versus 3 hours isn’t much difference, as the car is there for more than 6 or 7 hours.

Not only that, Tesla Model S’s can use those CHAdeMO plugs. So a Model S owner has the sum of L1 and L2 AC charging (J1772/Mennekes), L2 AC with Tesla HPWC, L2 DC in CHAdeMO, and L3 DC with Superchargers.

One of the big problems with using the CHAdeMO network is actually sorting out what is slow destination charging point versus what is a medium speed charging point. At some point, CHAdeMO also has to be modified to support high speed charging (L3). It might die outside of Japan during that transition.

Note that there are 0 L3 DC charging plugs that are CHAdeMO or CCS. SAE defines L3 DC charging as between 200A to 300A. That race has only one entrant at the moment… Tesla.

Tech01x
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Tech01x
ItsNotAboutTheMoney
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ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Just to emphasize, the video is showing information from Supercharge.info. It has a “Way Back” option under Map Options that animates the addition of the new Superchargers, to music.

It’s a great site.

ffbj
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ffbj

A real “Modern Marvel.”

Phr3d
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Phr3d

Still no love for “a long lonesome highway…”
wonder why Elon hates i80 so much, hehe..

Nix
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Nix

According to this map, if I buy a Tesla I would have to sacrifice going to North Dakota and Arkansas.

Let me think about that a second…

Yea, definitely worth the sacrifice! *grin*

Open-Mind
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Open-Mind

Unfortunately, much of Iowa, SW Wisconsin, and NW Illinois are still void of Superchargers. When they finally build one in the Quad-City area, that will be a game changer for some of us. In this area of the country, none have been added for about 20 months.