Hyundai Will Roll Out New Next Gen EV Every Two Years, 200 Miler In 2018

JUL 19 2016 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 54

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Hyundai IONIQ Electric

Ahn Byung-ki, director of eco-vehicle development at Hyundai Motor Group, made some announcements last week at Hyundai’s research and development center in South Korea.

According to Byung-ki, Hyundai will position itself as a leader in electric cars from here on out. In order to be a leader, Hyundai says it’ll roll out new generation electric cars every two years to keep pace with how quickly the technology is emerging in the electric car space.

As Automotive News reports:

“Aiming to make electrified cars a pillar of its portfolio, Hyundai Motor Co. says the technology is evolving so fast that it must roll out new electric vehicles on a two-year cadence to boost the current 110-mile range to around 250 miles by 2020.”

Quoting Byung-ki:

“Electrical vehicles are changing real fast. From a conventional perspective, two years or maybe a year-and-a-half is not really a long time.”

“But in the EV business, it is a pretty long time. We have to be ready for the new generation every two years.”

The IONIQ electric, a car that’s not yet on sale in the U.S., is already behind the times with a range of only 110 miles. It’ll go on sale in the U.S. this November. Pricing has not yet been annnounced, but with a range of only 110 miles, we don’t expect it to sell all that well, no matter how low its price tag.

Fortunately, with this new-every-two cycle announced by Hyundai, we won’t have to wait long before a longer range IONIQ is offered. And Hyundai doesn’t seemed concerned over these longer range cars cannibalzing sales of IONIQ. As Byung-ki stated in regards to future electric Hyundai’s:

“We’re going to put more batteries in it, so the price is going to be higher than the Ioniq’s.”

Automotive News adds:

“Hyundai is planning a new EV with a 200-mile range for 2018 and another with range approaching 250 miles by around 2020.”

Hyundai promises at least 8 PHEVs and 8 EVs by 2020, so there will be lots of choices out there to pick from.

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200 miles 2018, why they bring the Ioniq with 100 miles in 2017? It seems to mee Kia/Hyundai is always copy others like Toyota (Hybrids), Nissan (EVs) or just model variants and so they are just lagging behind 1-3 years. I am sure they will be the first buying a Serena with pro Pilot now.

You are totally right and that makes Hyundai, by definition, a follower, not a market leader.

Leaf gets a 100mile upgrade late 2015, Hyundai follows late 2016. Bolt (and probably Leaf) gets 200 miles, late 2016 (early 2017), Hyundai follows about a year later.

But good news, Hyundai thinks 2019 will be the year for 250 mile EVs.

60 kWh battery giving 200 mile range for next gen LEAF was just a couple weeks ago confirmed by Nissan:
http://insideevs.com/nissan-exec-confirms-60-kwh-leaf-is-coming-wont-say-when-wvideo/

I’m fine with some car companies being a bit behind, as long as they are actually trying. Nothing wrong with that.

It is the companies that don’t even seem to be trying, or are more talk than action that annoy me.

I agree that as long as a car company is at least introducing EVs to the market (which means in the U.S., everywhere), it doesn’t bother me too much it may be straggling behind the others. Besides, for me at least, the sweet spot of 100+ range-per-charge means vehicles like the present IONIQ electric and the 2016 LEAF should become quite, quite affordable in the next 24 to 48 months — which in turn is when my dear friend and I shall purchase together our first EV.

They had real experience mass producing EVs, nor big sales to justify big battery orders.

So limiting themselves to just compliance cars for now is sensible IF they really can put bigger batteries in 4 years.

Also more stringent emission standards won’t wait for 2020’s batteries ๐Ÿ˜‰

Where are they going to get the batteries? I wonder if they are toying w/the idea of their own “gigafactory”?

They’re Korean, so I expect that LG would give them a good deal.

I think LG is going to be supply constrained though, w/all of its contracts (Audi, Chevrolet, Ford, Hyundai, Renault, Smart, Volkswagen, Volvo, + more). Unless LG is planning more factories.

All that constraint thing is some kind of B.S. in a way… Car makers can anticipate 5 years ahead, and contracts should have been signed years ago.

If Tesla can scrap up 5 billion, LG surely can do the same.

The difference will be, that LG will ask a higher price, since they carry all the risk. Tesla will pay, partly, for its factory, which gives them more leverage over Panasonic.

If there is demand, LG will deliver. Samsung will do the same.

I would like to read more about LG preparing for the demand, not reacting to it.

Like LG planning a new battery factory for EVs in Poland. Which will produce about 200k EV packs?

Or the one in China which will be upgraded to for another 200k Ev packs per year?

And there are multiple other LG factories around the world, that will ramp up production over time. Just because there isn’t a big factory at one place, but several smaller ones around the world, doesn’t mean LG isn’t anticipating more demand.

I’m talking about the plant in Holland, MI

Why should they increase their capacity at the Holland plant? The US isn’t a really big EV market anymore, Europe and especially China are much more attractive right now.

Not only if you look at the size of the market, but also the manufacturers. Tesla already has panasonic and GM isn’t aiming at very high ales with the Bolt. The Volt sells a steady 2k per month, Ford and Chrysler don’t need lots of batteries.

So why should LG invest into a stagnating , at least slowly growing, market, with no customers planning on increasing their battery needs by a lot? How many batteries will GM need next year? 75k packs? Maybe a third of them 16kWh Volt packs and 50k pure EV packs. Thats in range of the 3GWh capacity the Holland plant already had, if fully used.

250 is the new 200 when the LEAF 2 hits the market

LOL! I so hope you’re right, but so far Nissan’s idea seems to be to offer marginally more than the competition. What a tepid upgrade they did, adding 25% capacity after nearly 6 years on the market (though “only” 5 in most of the world).

VW and BMW by comparison look like real sprinters adding 50% after 3 years.

I do expect LEAF 2 to at least match Bolt, and sooner than e-Golf or the i3. But if Nissan stays true to form they’ll offer like a mile more range than Bolt (which exact range still isn’t known).

The Model 3 makes both look kinda silly, so long as you can live with a sedan. But Tesla has been the class clown more than I really like lately.

The shady internet info I’ve been reading is rumouring a 40 kWh battery for 2017 Nissan LEAF around the 150 mile range. Hopefully its a 60kwh…or a very short run on the 40.

I suspect they will offer a 40 and 60.

That sounds reasonable. I have over 2 years and almost 50 000km on a 24 kWh 2014 LEAF. Hyundai coming in with a 110 mile range to compete with Nissan and BMW is commendable.

I’m actually surprised that Nissan even got to the 30kWh level. In contrast to Toyota, Nissan’s emphasis is generational new model change instead of incremental changes.

650kms JC08 city cycle range from 60kWh battery. Lock it in.

Part of that is because the Leaf was on the Market 2 years sooner then everyone else. Also Battery prices have only recently started to really go down making affordable 200 mile range vehicles a possibility. Nissian is just now adjusting their design to the new lower cost batteries.

They’re trying to minimize the progress…
And have you noticed that NONE of the ICE car makers are announcing an upcoming BEV with better specs than Tesla’s ? NEVER! Even for 2020!
So much for a so called competing market… The merry petro-auto cartel surely have a good plan to kill little Tesla

That just depends what you call “better specs”. For many people, the Bolt has better specs than any Tesla (say, tall people with dogs). In any case it’s not about specs. For example, the Model 3 has inferior specs to the Model S, but it is a much more important car that will hopefully have far greater impact on the industry and on advancing sustainable transportation. I reckon what counts is having ambitious plans to make a lot of EVs and change the world. And in that respect, the clear leader at the moment has to be VW, whose plans to 2025 include launching over 30 new BEVs and reaching annual sales of 2-3 million and 150 GWh of battery capacity. Tesla has a more aggressive time frame to 500,000 in 2018, but only two models are in the pipeline (as far as we know – the 3 and the Y), and the loftiest goals mentioned by Tesla so far are a million vehicles by 2020. Incoherently, the goal for the Gigafactory is 35 GWh by the same year, which would of course mean just 35 kWh of installed capacity per vehicle unless Tesla gets some batteries from elsewhere… But… Read more »

VW is still mostly talk and very little action. Audi has the only competitive announced car that is still two years away.(Making it 6 years behind Tesla MS.)Saying what you are going to do in 10 years is pointless unless you have clear progress along the way. VW does not even have a Gigafactory Location. VW electric numbers include a large number of Non BEV cars.

Promise and talk are the actual plan.
No doubt, they will do something, more because they have no choice to comply with emission rule and of course to salvage the mess the diesel gate put them into.
But, having someone call himself or the challenger the world champion is premature until the fight is done.

Rexxsee, If you are talking about battery capacity, the BOLT has better specs (60 kwh) than the Model 3, which supposedly will have a 55 kwh battery.

Driving conservatively today (although the air conditioning was on ‘eco’ all the time), I went 56 1/2 miles totally on battery only in my 2014 ELR, which is rated at 35 miles. (The 2016 supposedly can go further). If the Bolt’s 200+ rating is as conservative, it means an equivalent driving style will reap 323 + miles. Maybe over 350. THAT is noteworthy.

No, I’m talking about range, not equal to capacity. Tesla is very efficient on efficiency ๐Ÿ˜‰
Ohhh! Look at all those GM superchargers… ๐Ÿ˜‰ ๐Ÿ˜‰

Are there any Superchargers in Quebec yet?

Seems funny to talk about efficiency and supercharging in the same breath, since the wasted heat developed while charging this way is very high, and its quite inefficient, although it gets the job done.

Of course most SC happens during the time when electricity is most scarce, and it puts the lie to one big advantage of electric cars – efficiently using electric power after midnight – which I do all the time with both my vehicles.

Tesla pays for this inefficiency through demand and energy charges, themselves, at least for the time being.

The only ‘regular’ (and mostly the ONLY car ever at the SC by me) is a cheapskate who apparently NEVER charges at home since he is ALWAYS there charging during the highest cost of electricity during prime hours, and ignores Elon Musk’s directive for ‘locals’ to charge at home.

I love ELR’s. It would be my next car after my Volt if it just had 4 doors. Wife sits in back with baby and I cannot see them squeezing back there.

“Hyundai will position itself as a leader in electric cars from here on out.” – the title of “leader” is already claimed by VW and GM. Mr. Byung-k will have to sue them if he wants to use it.

P.S. Mr. Musk and Mr. Ghosn are probably laughing their asses off every time someone new declares himself as next next big EV “leader”.

There are different kinds of leaders. If Hyundai price their cars lower than the competition, they could be the leader. While Tesla, GM, and to an extent Nissan vie for $30K cars, Hyundai could be dominating the market in $20K cars if they can price the IONIQ at $27K and other models even lower price. There won’t be SparkEV to give them competition later.

And if they offer prgressively more range / higher cost cars, they could very well be the leader in other segments, too. This is the opposite strategy of Tesla, but Hyundai has the money to do it. Nissan had the money, but they blew it by sitting on their arse for 6 years.

I like the fact that there are low cost EV ‘s already with decent performance Am I right in assuming that this applies to the Spark EV? Its rather unremarkable styling along wirh its get up and go torque and low sticker make it a future cult classic.

Yeah, they could be a leader at sucking. But I think that prize goes to Ford. 76 miles range and the best they have to offer for 2017 is 100 miles and DC fast charging.

I know Hyundai says they want to be a leader but we will have to see how they are priced and stocked…
Agree that it could be very compelling at 27k or less…
I imagine Nissan will have to drastically drop the Leafs price once the Bolt comes out…
Also be interesting to see what Ford does with their 100 mile Focus price and stock wise…

With the Fed more than doubling CAFE fines big auto will probably want to sell more electrics…
http://gas2.org/2016/07/17/nhtsa-doubles-cafe-fines/

You really cant compare Teslas original strategy to big auto today as Tesla had to create the EV market and demand 10 years ago and now it already exists…

According to *autonews the SparkEV likely wont be going away at least not for another year in compliance states.

* www dot autonews dot com /article/20160718/OEM04/307189996/chevy-gmc-plan-new-and-improved-crossovers

There’s space for more leaders. I like all the recent words of commitment, and the followup of plug in models.

That reminds me of a sports reporter on our local news, who was talking about how much heart a team played with. He complimented them for how much heart they put into the game. Then he said that if more teams played with that much heart, there would be more winning teams….

That gave us a good laugh. That was only weeks after the weather reporter on the same news broadcast said that the snow should melt quickly, now that daylight savings started and there was another hour of sun to melt the snow.

“roll out new generation electric cars every two years”
Yes, that’s how you do it. Are you listening, Nissan? Becoming the leader is great but you won’t stay being the leader for long if you don’t push yourself. True, you won’t make a profit on the first couple of iterations but in the long run you will come out much stronger. Show some strong long term commitment and the customers will reward you for that.

So, you are saying that Nissan should switch from making lots of EVs to making lots of grandiose empty promises and almost no actual EVs ?

No I’m saying they should update their product continually instead of making one and think it will still sell 6 years later.

There should be plenty of market for 110 mile commuter cars. I mean, that’s over twice the range of my Volt’s 53 miles and I’m easily running 99% EV with my Volt. So even though I could happily get by with 110 miles, I’d still rather have the Volt simply for the better looks and performance.

I think it’s the warm/fuzzy feeling from either lots of extra range or a range extender that makes the difference. People always look at the worst cast scenario, and start asking “what ifs”.

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Concur. I’d really like to see a 100 or 150 mi range with full-use range extender (like European i3 REX – but with more EV range). Then I could drive it cross country without worrying about chargers until the CCS networks catch up. (and gets us past the chicken & egg problem)

Hope soon there is an AWD PHEV in addition to the expensive Mitsubishi and Mercedes and Volvo.

Congratulations on the Hyundai Team getting their own leaders on board in the EV Game! Now, can they built out better PHEV’s/EREV’s than the Prius Prime / Chevy Volt / Ford CMax energie, etc? Maybe they could do 55 mikes AER with a Mid-Sized Vehicle with 450+ miles range after that, at 50+ MPG! That would at least be leading the Volt in usable space, AER, and Total Range per fill! Then, if they could deliver the first 110 Mile Range IONIQ’s at $29,995 or under, and with incredible Low Lease or buy rates, plus a 200,000 Km Vehicle + Drive Train (Including Battery and Motor and all EV Power Electronics) Warranty – they could be leading on that front, too! If their 200 mile products come out 6-12 months behind others, they can pick up the leadership tag again by having more room, longer warranty time and mileage, lower retail prices, better finance and lease terms. Give it a great design style and function for ease of ingress and egress, great lines, convenient charging access points (both on the vehicle, and via partnerships and leadership in Condo Charging, Workplace Charging, General Public Charging, and high onboard charging rates for… Read more »

Heck, they don’t even have to technically beat those other cars for them to be successful. All they have to do is appeal to enough buyers that they hit their sales numbers.

The automotive world is full of cars that aren’t the best in their market sector, that still have successful sales numbers.

We are so short in choices for plug in vehicles compared to gas car choices, that just getting more variety of cars to choose from will be good for the market overall.

Hyundai I look at with a Jaundiced Eye. Several years ago they were going to come out with a compact ‘wedge’ BEV, and also, a ‘Volt-Killer’ PHEV. Seriously. Except nothing came of it other than , what for me, is a ‘compliance’ SOUL EV since it is not sold in NY State. I probably should have mail ordered a Toyota Rav4 EV when it was on sale in California.

SO I’m from Missouri when it comes to any future vehicles from this firm.

You speak for a lot of us Bill. It’s hard to get all worked up over advancements in cars that are only available in limited markets. I’d love to see the new Ionique and test drive it, etc. Let’s see if they make this worlwide and not just compliance states.

The good news is that for model year 2018, all 10 of the current CARB-ZEV states will have a requirement to sell EVs. Of course, hydrogen is exempt from that requirement. They have tried many times to stop this, going as far as requesting the EPA somehow stop CARB: Auto manufacturer’s Oct 19, 2012 request to EPA for waiver from CARB requirements to sell ZEV in all CARB-ZEV states. http://www.globalautomakers.org/sites/default/files/document/attachments/JointCommentsCAWaiverRequest10-19-12.pdf “It is highly unlikely that the required infrastructure and the level of consumer demand for ZEVs will be sufficient by MY2018 in either California or in the individual Section 177 States to support the ZEV sales requirements mandated by CARB. EPA should therefore deny, at the present time, Californiaโ€™s waiver request for the ZEV program for these model years. During the interim, Global Automakers and the Alliance believe that California and EPA, with full auto industry participation, should implement a review for the ZEV program similar to the mid-term review process adopted under the federal GHG and CAFE regulations for MYs2017 through 2025.” That’s a whole lot of gobbledy goop to say, “keep the current traveling provision so we can only sell cars in California at the minimum number, and… Read more »

Hyundai already has the best EV in the market today. The Soul EV. Crushed my Leaf and they are giving way better deals (saved $100 a month on my Soul lease over my Leaf). True this will all change when the range moves up to 200 with the Bolt and next gen Leaf but there’s nothing stopping Hyundai for stepping it up with the Soul and any other model they bring to market.

We need to support more vehicles, including pick-up trucks and Ford Transit Connect (not withstanding the failed AZ TC) sized 200 plus mile range work trucks. Whoever steps up with these vehicles first will have the leg up because we all know that the giants make their bread and butter on their obscenely high priced trucks.