Porsche To Offer Electric SUV, Tesla Roadster Rival Too

OCT 15 2018 BY DOMENICK YONEY 36

Targa Taycan too!

The Volkswagen Group is on record as saying it will “electrify” every model by the year 2030. A not-insignificant part of that package of improvements are the battery-powered changes coming to the Porsche lineup. Now, we have a bit more insight into how that effort will be translated by the folks at its Stuttgart headquarters. According to Autocar, future all-electric vehicles will include an SUV, at least one sportscar, and a Targa version of the Taycan.

The hint about the future products came from the brand’s finance director, Lutz Meschke. At an event last week, he let slip that “You can expect an SUV BEV by 2022 at the latest.” He also said, “…the Boxster and Cayman could be suitable for electrification.” While that timeline may seem far into the future — Porsche has been teasing electric product since 2011 when it debuted the Boxster e — we tend to take its EV efforts more seriously since the dieselgate scandal erupted, and so have some confidence in its followthrough.

Indeed, the Taycan, which is due to begin deliveries sometime before the end of 2019, is a very real product and its J1 platform will inform the development of a new “PPE” platform being jointly developed with Audi which will underlay the aforementioned SUV. And even in its present form, J1 will be used in a production version of the Porsche Mission E Cross Turismo, if that concept gets the production green light, as well as the Audi e-tron GT.

The chassis for the sportscar mentioned by Meschke is a little less understood. Autocar muses that J1 might be used, though shortening the wheelbase could require reducing the size of the battery pack and, consequently, range and performance. Porsche strongly believes in keeping weight to a minimum to preserve handling, so it will be interesting to see how it approaches the engineering challenge this first sportscar poses. Even now it says it has no plans to completely electrify its 911 halo car, despite leaning towards a hybrid system in the future.

Regarding the electric SUV, we’re warned not to expect this to carry the Cayenne nameplate. That model sits on a new platform and Porsche will likely want to see some payback from its development. Instead, look for something like the mid-sized Macan to go electric first. This, we think, is the smarter play since it sits in the popular, more affordable, crossover segment and its development can be leveraged across several VW Group brands.

Source: Autocar

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36 Comments on "Porsche To Offer Electric SUV, Tesla Roadster Rival Too"

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MABUS

2022 ist to late

Big Solar

now is too late

Salem

3% of new cars globally are BEVs today, 51% of those in China, what about that is late? That’s early, unless you expect the BEV market to not grow much more.

antrik

It’s more in Porsche’s market segment, though…

arne-nl

I think Big Solar has the latest IPCC report in mind.

viriato

That’s the fact, the BEV sales globally are ridiculous, every car maker has a huge space to grow up. China sales are bigger…. but most of their models are very, very cheap and basics. They cover the necesities for chinese, but they aren’t globally relevants

Viking79

Not for how many Porsche plans to sell. More interesting will be response from Tesla with S/X updates.

Alex

Too late for what?

Clive

It’s too late to apologize….

It’s too late… 🎶

Nice!

HansBlix

Not confirmed from the advisory board yet but:
“Porsche is accelerating their electrification plans and announced that between 2022 and 2025, a fully electric version of the Macan, Cayenne, Boxster and Panamera will be made available.“
https://www.electrive.com/2018/09/23/porsche-pushes-their-electrification-initiative-forward/

antrik

One interesting bit in there is that it explicitly talks about a dedicated platform for two-seaters, not just a shortened Taycan…

Paul Smith

Lets see how it performs beside a Tesla Roadster with jet thrusters.

pjwood1

“2022…Boxster”, huh?

“— Porsche has been teasing electric product since 2011 when it debuted the Boxster e —”

11 years to production, then. Maybe we’ll see the production Taycan, before 2025?

Hans Blix

This was more of a test vehicle for them, they did not consider it to be “good enough” already to bring to market. Seems like that have changed now *fingers crossed*. I think it’s great news that Porsche will offer all of their portfolio with all-electric versions – besides of the 911. I understand that many are sceptic, but from 2022 the new platform for all electric vehicles codeveloped with Audi will be ready and then an all electric Porsche Macan and Audi Q5 will start the move to all-electric versions of their portfolio. 2020 would be nicer, but 2022 is not too far away in the future. And if Porsche really offers all electric Macans, Cayennes, Panameras (Sedan and Turimso), Boxters and Caymans by 2025 – that is fantastic news in my opinion.
Porsche never claimed anything and didn’t held up to it until now as far as I remember. So I see no reason why one should not trust them. Beside that – all electric versions, because of the lower total cost of ownership could make a Porsche more attainable to own 😀

Some Guy

Oh wow, another announcement. Just build the thing already.
Meanwhile, Opel has been found guilty of cheating with diesel emissions, and has to recall 100000 vehicles. Notably, this originated back in 2015 when the brand was still a part of GM, but the liability was sold to PSA together with the Opel brand. So congrats GM, for screwing yet another buyer. Sadly, this is Germany, so recall is all the consequence and nobody will pay to buy back the junk or compensate for health damages.

Clive

Just horrible

Another reason for people to boycott GM (Government Motors)

Dimitrij

How are people to supposed to boycott GM? Every time they see a GM vehicle they close their eyes, plug their ears and pout their lips?

Clive

By not buying their products… It’s not rocket science !

John Doe

Almost all brands cheated somehow. If not with all engine types, at least with one.
Some brands pulled some models insted, since they knew they didn’t meet the requirements. Toyota Hiace for example was pulled. It was the second most popular van in Norway, before they stopped seiling them in Europe.

eject

If they had been found guilty they wouldn’t have had their headquarters raided yesterday.

John

“We’re 60-90% sure that In 3-5 years we’ll be 70-100% sure that we’ll likely be 100% electric within the next 10 years.”

Michael

The jury is still out, they don’t know if Porsche customers are ready for full electric. Patience, baby steps, get the vehicle out first. Also, Porsche is a tiny manufacturer, 55k cars sold in the US, Tesla sold 55k Model 3’s in Q3. Porsche is about small production, high margin.

Dante

The Macan is the same basic class and price as a Model 3 and is easily available. It’s even a bit cheaper. Remember that Tesla was smaller than Porsche just a few months ago and they’re going after about the same price range so I think customers are ready for a fully electric vehicle. I can’t imagine that Porsche being down >7% YoY in the US is voluntary.

Also at the end of the day, people expect their Porsche to have great performance and they kind of don’t stack up anymore when the 911 can’t put away a 5+2 seat sedan.

John Doe

On a track, it can not follow the 911.

But the way an electric car can pick up speed is really nice. Due to weight, they suffer on most tracks.

I think continued focus on lowering the weight, and more energy dense batteries will improve some of this.

Most people don’t drive their car on a track, or do dragraces anyway.

The advantage of EVs is low noice, smooth ride, can charge at home and cooling/heating the car while charging too. Add no local emissions. . And most people should be sold. Usually economical to own.
The i3 I use cost about the same for a 5 year service contract ( with parts, fluids and what not) that I would have to pay for an oilchange for my ICE car.

John

That’s a great point. If anything, Tesla is a marketing test for high end manufacturers too paralyzed to take the electric leap. I think the verdict is in with Tesla selling $120k – $150k Model S/X’s.

John

In my opinion, throw them on the woodpile with Mercedes, BMW, VW, and many others. Regardless of size, big or small, they all still just dabble with pretty renderings, drawings, and concepts. I’d love to eat my words, because that would mean they’ve actually progressed to a legit offering, which I’d really like to see. At this point, though, words are just words.

Brian

Taycans will sell out immediately. Porsche will throttle back the production in hopes of keeping fossil car volumes steady.

Dante

They don’t have control over the market in the first place. Tesla has 50% market share in the medium and large luxury sedan markets and is NOT throttling production.

Big Solar

do they have to build rivals? cant they just think of their own thing?

antrik

The source article says that the VW group intends to have an “electrified” variant of every model *by 2023* (not 2030) — *twice*.

antrik

VW already mentioned that there will be a Q5-sized Audi variant of the ID. CROZZ… I wonder, does that mean the new Macan will be another variant of that? Or will it be something distinct, based on PPE?…

eject

No. That is what the PPE is for. The higher value Audis and Porsches will be build on the PPE and lower value Audis and no Porsches are to be built on the MEB.

windbourne

Quite honestly, I think that only Porsche will be capable of actually competing with Tesla.
All others do not have the performance or the engineering that Tesla has.

Nono13

The video of the Audi E-tron published yesterday on this site seemed pretty good to me.

andi_nan

Nice! Porsche got it! For Premium Brands EV is absolutely the way to go. Jaguar realised that as well.

Especially for EV-skeptical Germans, this could change a lot.