Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Priced From Under $35,000 In U.S., Launch Set For December

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US Spec 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

After repeated delays dating back to around the Ice Age, Mitsubishi is finally putting a solid arrival time on the Outlander PHEV in the U.S.

According to Mitsubishi, the Outlander PHEV will launch in the U.S. in December of this year. Here’s the automaker’s official wording:

“The world’s first plug-in hybrid crossover and the best-selling PHEV in Europe is coming to America. The all-new 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV) will arrive in dealerships in December 2017 starting at the MSRP of $34,595.”

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

That price point will certainly make it an attractive option for those in the market for a plug-in SUV. A very limited segment that mostly features pricey automobiles. In fact, the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV undercuts the next cheapest plug-in hybrid SUV by nearly $30,000, though the Outlander PHEV is very spartan compared to the other luxury vehicles that dominate this limited segment.

We should note that the Outlander PHEV will qualify for up to $5,836 in federal tax rebates. That effectively drives down the cost to below $30,000 for some buyers. Mitsubishi adds that the highest spec Outlander PHEV, the GT S-AWC, starts at $40,295. Add $940 to both of the listed MSRPs for delivery/destination charges.

No real-world/EPA range estimates were given, but the Outlander PHEV is rated at 33 miles on the optimistic Euro NEDC scales, which would roughly translate to about 22-24 miles.

2017 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

Some additional highlights from Mitsubishi on the Outlander PHEV include:

  • The Outlander PHEV offers seating for five passengers and room for their gear, 1500lb towing capability, SUV practicality and a fantastic Super All-Wheel Control system, all wrapped in an environmentally friendly EV system.
  • The battery that supplies the electricity for the motors is a high-capacity 12kWh lithium-ion battery pack developed specifically for the PHEV system. The battery pack consists of 80 cells configured in a series, with a total voltage measuring 300V and a total storage capacity of 12kWh. The battery is located in a dust and waterproof encasement positioned beneath the passenger compartment subfloor and between the front and rear axles (with no intrusion into the passenger compartment whatsoever).
  • if the engine is idling and the vehicle is not moving, selecting the Battery Charge Mode will replenish a low energy level within the lithium-ion drive battery pack back up to 80 percent fully charged in approximately 40 minutes.
  • The 2018 model year Outlander PHEV comes with a fully transferable 5-year/60,000-mile new vehicle limited warranty as well as a fully transferable 10-year /100,000-mile warranty on PHEV components and the Main Drive Lithium-ion battery. These warranties are in addition to a 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain limited warranty to the original retail purchaser and a 7-year/100,000-mile anti-corrosion perforation limited warranty. In addition, the Outlander PHEV comes with a 5-year/unlimited miles Roadside Assistance benefits.

Mitsubishi has yet to release EPA figures for the Outlander PHEV, but we’re guessing electric-only range will be somewhere in the low to mid 20s. Look for more details to be revealed closer to the vehicle’s launch date this December.

2018 Mitsubishi Outlander PHEVs (US spec)

Mitsubishi Outlander (finally) coming to North America!

Full press blast below:

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Offers the Best of Both Worlds With EV Efficiency and Gas SUV Capabilities

  • Mitsubishi Motors’ 100 years of engineering prowess is put to work to create a vehicle that is both capable and environmentally friendly
  • Best-selling PHEV in Europe is now ready to take on the U.S. market; starting MSRP of under $35,000

HUNTINGTON BEACH, Calif.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–The world’s first plug-in hybrid crossover and the best-selling PHEV in Europe is coming to America. The all-new 2018 Mitsubishi Outlander Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle (PHEV) will arrive in dealerships in December 2017 starting at the MSRP of $34,595. The Outlander PHEV is a perfect culmination of Mitsubishi’s 100-year history of automotive excellence: over 50 years of electromobility and decades of four-wheel drive technology honed on the international rally circuit. Featuring a highly efficient 2.0-liter gas engine and two high-performance electric motors, along with Mitsubishi’s superior Super All-Wheel Control (S-AWC) system, the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV delivers SUV capabilities and EV fuel economy. The Outlander PHEV is the only PHEV crossover with all-wheel drive in its class. It is also the only PHEV with DC Fast Charging capability.

The all-new Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV hits dealerships in December 2017 with a starting MSRP of $34,595

The Outlander PHEV represents a fusion of the EV technologies developed by Mitsubishi for models such as the i-MiEV, S-AWC technologies honed from the Lancer Evolution, and SUV know-how gained from the Montero. The result is a groundbreaking new model that brings together the superior environmental performance and efficiency of an EV, the stability and handling of S-AWC, and the practicality of a crossover.

“The Outlander PHEV is an all-new driving experience that is unmatched in the market; until now, this type of vehicle has been exclusive to the premium segment,” said Don Swearingen, executive vice president and COO, MMNA. “Offering EV technology in a very capable crossover will satisfy a consumer need that’s been missing in the marketplace. The Outlander PHEV offers seating for five passengers and room for their gear, 1500lb towing capability, SUV practicality and a fantastic Super All-Wheel Control system, all wrapped in an environmentally friendly EV system.”

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

PHEV System with Twin Electric Motors All-Wheel Control

The highlight of the all-new Outlander PHEV is the use of Mitsubishi’s sophisticated PHEV system. It uses two full-time, high-output electric motors separately mounted at the front and rear axles to instantly supply torque on demand for incredibly responsive performance with agile all-wheel drive. The front electric motor is positioned transaxle-style on the left side of the gas engine and has an output of 60 kW. The front motor is smaller and lighter with a higher output enhanced version of the permanent magnet synchronous electric motor used in the Mitsubishi i-MiEV.

The system features a front-mounted generator that converts mechanical power to electricity and continuously charges the drive battery, while a Power Drive Unit (PDU) helps to convert the electric power and send it to the front motor.

The rear 60 kW motor and Electric Motor Control Unit (EMCU) are mounted beneath the rear cargo area subfloor. Both the front PDU and rear EMCU are intelligent control units that contribute to heightened energy efficiency and optimal motor control.

For non-electric driving, a clean and efficient 2.0-liter gasoline engine is utilized.

Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

“The twin electric motors and economical gasoline engine optimize performance according to how you want to drive. It’s smooth and quiet with abundant power to tackle a variety of different driving conditions with highly efficient purpose,” said Nathan Berg, senior product manager, MMNA.

The battery that supplies the electricity for the motors is a high-capacity 12kWh lithium-ion battery pack developed specifically for the PHEV system. The battery pack consists of 80 cells configured in a series, with a total voltage measuring 300V and a total storage capacity of 12kWh. The battery is located in a dust and waterproof encasement positioned beneath the passenger compartment subfloor and between the front and rear axles (with no intrusion into the passenger compartment whatsoever).

Regenerative braking is also used to generate electricity for the system. During deceleration (braking), the front and rear electric motors function as generators so that electricity can be generated and fed back into the lithium-ion drive battery pack. Regenerative braking occurs when the vehicle is in motion while the accelerator pedal is not being pressed (coasting) or when the driver engages the brakes by pressing the brake pedal. The level of regenerative braking can be conveniently selected by the driver at any time using the steering wheel paddle shifters.

Three Drive System Modes

Because of its unique drivetrain which combines a front electric motor, rear electric motor, front-mounted gasoline-powered 2.0-liter engine and generator, the all-new Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV automatically selects one of three unique drivetrain modes for optimal performance and efficiency.

EV Drive Mode (Twin Motor S-AWC EV)
In the EV Drive Mode, the vehicle is driven in a very eco-friendly performance mode by the two electric motors, with energy being supplied exclusively by the lithium-ion drive battery pack (100 percent electric-powered, zero-emission vehicle). This mode is excellent for running errands/performing family duties on a daily basis as a highly sustainable/low environmental impact form of personal transportation. With the EV mode button the driver can select this driving mode when they desire 100% EV driving.

Series Hybrid Mode (Twin Motor S-AWC EV with Internal Combustion Generator)
When the energy level remaining in the lithium-ion drive battery pack is low or when the need arises for a sudden and/or additional degree of acceleration, the two electric motors are powered by the battery pack and the gasoline-powered generator.

In this configuration, the gasoline-powered generator helps:
1) Charge the lithium-ion drive battery pack
2) Provide power to the pair of electric motors

Parallel Hybrid Mode (Gasoline-Powered Engine Supported by Twin Motor S-AWC)
In this drive mode, the Outlander PHEV uses its full complement of available resources:
1) The 2.0-liter gasoline engine drives the front wheels; the front axle features a built-in clutch that switches the system to Parallel Drive Mode mainly for engine-powered travel at high speeds/steady-state cruise.
2) The two electric motors positioned at the front and rear of the vehicle operate seamlessly when additional power is required, such as driving uphill.
3) The gasoline-powered engine/generator – while operating the vehicle at sufficient speed – will feed any excess energy (electricity) back into the lithium-ion drive battery pack.

The Parallel Hybrid mode is most commonly utilized when the Outlander PHEV is being driven in a long-haul/high-speed steady-state cruise manner such as on the open road or interstate. This is the most efficient drivetrain mode under these types of driving circumstances.

Driver Selected Modes

ECO Mode
The Outlander PHEV features a driver-activated “ECO Mode” switch that reduces both fuel and electricity usage for increased efficiency simply with the touch of the button.

Battery Save Mode
In this driver-activated mode, the Outlander PHEV automatically conserves the energy within the lithium-ion drive battery pack by operating the vehicle in hybrid mode (note: Battery Save Mode will only operate once the lithium-ion drive battery pack’s energy level falls below 90 percent full). For example, engaging the Battery Save Mode would allow the vehicle to be driven in urban traffic with the engine/generator on to maintain a higher level of battery charge; it could then be deactivated, allowing the vehicle to be driven through a neighborhood silently at an appropriate speed in EV Drive Mode.

Battery Charge Mode
When activating the Battery Charge Mode – whether the vehicle is in motion or at a standstill – the engine will generate electricity to be fed into the lithium-ion drive battery pack (essentially forcing the vehicle to operate in Series Hybrid Mode). For example, if the engine is idling and the vehicle is not moving, selecting the Battery Charge Mode will replenish a low energy level within the lithium-ion drive battery pack back up to 80 percent fully charged in approximately 40 minutes.

The advantage to the Battery Charge Mode is giving the vehicle a reserve of additional power when necessary such as hill-climbing or towing.

S-AWC Produces Smooth Linear Response

The Outlander PHEV comes standard with Mitsubishi’s proprietary S-AWC. The S-AWC system found on the Outlander PHEV is a specialized application of the Lancer Evolution-derived Super All-Wheel Control developed specifically for the Outlander PHEV’s unique twin electric motor configuration for maximum performance, efficiency, tractability and safety.

This integrated control system delivers incredible power and control. By optimally managing Active Yaw Control (AYC), Anti-lock braking system (ABS) and Active Stability Control (ASC) with Traction Control (TCL) — which now offers enhanced traction on all road conditions — it brings out the full potential of Twin Motor S-AWC without compromising safety, comfort or fuel efficiency. When desired, the driver can press the Twin-Motor 4WD LOCK button to simulate locking of a center differential and optimally distribute torque to all four wheels for improved traction and stability.

“The PHEV system in the Outlander has been tested and proven in some of the most grueling races in the world. A pair of MiEV Evolution III all-electric prototype racecars competed at Pikes Peak International Hill Climb in 2014 and placed first and second. Then, Mitsubishi built a specially prepared Outlander PHEV rally car that raced very competitively in the Baja Portalegre 500 off-road rally in 2015,” said Berg. “The Outlander PHEV responds faithfully to every command given by the driver. The Twin Motor S-AWC teams with the PHEV drivetrain to supply optimal torque and traction to each wheel, helping to provide smooth, powerful acceleration, and stable handling in all road conditions.”

Easy Charging with Standard DC Fast Charging Capability

Charging the Outlander PHEV is simple with three different methods to choose from depending on your location and/or needs. The vehicle’s drive battery can be charged with a standard 120V (full charge in less than eight hours) power outlet at home with the supplied charging cable, or with a public or residential 240V (full charge in less than four hours) charging station. Outlander PHEV also comes standard with DC Fast Charging capability, the only Plug-in Hybrid in the market with it. Using this system at commercial charging facilities, the vehicle will charge up to 80 percent capacity in as little as 25 minutes. Charging status is conveniently displayed on the instrument panel.

Spacious Comfort and New Refinement

Inside the Outlander PHEV is an oasis of comfort and refinement where driving pleasure is enhanced by generous legroom, luxurious amenities and a supremely quiet ride. The seats are meticulously finished with standard premium soft leather and the rear seatbacks can be folded to allow for many different adventures. A special PHEV meter cluster design indicates to the driver the energy usage by pointing the needle toward the Power, Eco or Charge zone.

Affixed to the steering column is a pair of paddle shifters which control the regenerative braking system. This allows the driver to adjust regenerative braking strength to any of six settings with the simple flip of the paddles. Other interior features include an advanced EV shift lever and console design, efficiency and ECO monitoring features integrated in the display screen and a premium steering wheel.

Adding to the aesthetic, the Outlander PHEV introduces a new exclusive premium exterior color, Ruby Black Metallic, along with a new interior color choice, dark brown premium leather with red stitched accents.

Technology for All Around Safety

Advanced safety technology supports safer, more confident driving — on the road and in parking lots, day and night. From intelligent sensors that track the vehicle’s surroundings and warns of danger to active driving assistance and solid passive protection, the Outlander PHEV delivers all around high levels of safety.

Blind Spot Warning (BSW) – This safety feature uses radar sensors in the rear bumper to detect vehicles in rear blind spots, on the right and left sides. An indicator appears in the door mirror when BSW is active and the turn signals are off. When a vehicle is detected and the turn signals are on, an indicator blinks in the door mirror on that side.

Rear Cross Traffic Alert (RCTA) – An indicator appears in the combination meter display when RCTA is active. If radar sensors in the rear bumper detect an approaching vehicle nearby while reverse gear is engaged, a warning message appears in the multi-information display, an audible alert sounds and an indicator blinks in both door mirrors.

Forward Collision Mitigation (FCM) – Helps prevent a frontal collision or reduce the severity of that collision if it becomes unavoidable. Responds to vehicles and pedestrians via camera and laser radar.

Lane Departure Warning (LDW) – The Lane Departure Warning (LDW) system uses an onboard camera to monitor lane position in front of the vehicle audibly and visually, alerting the driver if it detects the vehicle leaving its lane unintentionally.

Automatic High Beam (AHB) – To increase safety, comfort and driving ease at night, the high beams automatically switch to low beams when vehicles are detected ahead and automatically switch back to high beams so the driver doesn’t have to remove their hand from the steering wheel to switch the beams manually.

Adaptive Cruise Control System (ACC) – Maintains a selected distance between the vehicle and the car ahead via radar for greater safety and peace of mind. It reduces driver stress especially during traffic jams on highways.

Multi-View Camera System – The views from cameras mounted on the front, rear and sides of the vehicle (including a bird’s-eye view) can be displayed in various combinations to help reveal what is in blind spots and help you park.

Wi-Fi EV Remote

Using a Smartphone remote control app, the Outlander PHEV and wireless device communicate directly. You do not have to access a public Wi-Fi spot or prepare any Wi-Fi routers at your home. Once set up, the owner can use the wireless device for many functions:

Charging Schedule – turn on/off the charging timer. Can also set the charging schedule to fit your lifestyle.

Remote Climate Control – cooling, heating and defrosting can be controlled remotely. You can also set the A/C to run on a schedule. You can utilize the grid power to run the heat or A/C before going to the vehicle, so there is no decrease in vehicle efficiency or range.

Monitor Vehicle Status – You can check your car’s status such as an open/closed door or hood, headlights on/off, driving battery state of charge and more.

Vehicle Control – turn on/off headlights and parking lights.

Settings – can change MITSUBISHI REMOTE CONTROL settings, such as change/cancel SSID, customize vehicle settings, and check theft alarm operation history.

Ultimate Outdoor Vehicle

Available in the Outlander PHEV are two AC power outlets located in the rear seat and cargo area. The plugs don’t need an adaptor to use as they are standard North American 120V plugs. The plugs draw directly from the drive battery and provide 1,500 watts of electric power, enough to power nearly any portable household appliance. The plugs could be useful for outdoor events such as camping (toaster, spotlight, electric grill, coffee maker) or tailgating (television, blender, game console, mini-fridge, speakers).

Warranty and Pricing

The 2018 model year Outlander PHEV comes with a fully transferable 5-year/60,000-mile new vehicle limited warranty as well as a fully transferable 10-year /100,000-mile warranty on PHEV components and the Main Drive Lithium-ion battery. These warranties are in addition to a 10-year/100,000-mile powertrain limited warranty to the original retail purchaser and a 7-year/100,000-mile anti-corrosion perforation limited warranty. In addition, the Outlander PHEV comes with a 5-year/unlimited miles Roadside Assistance benefits. 1

The Outlander PHEV will arrive in dealerships in December 2017 with a starting MSRP of only $34,595. 2 For more information please visit media.mitsubishicars.com.

1 The 10-year/100,000-mile Powertrain Limited Warranty coverage terms are from the original in-service dates, and are applicable only to the original owner of new, retailed models purchased from an authorized Mitsubishi dealer. Subsequent owners receive the balance of the New Vehicle Limited Warranty of 5-years/60,000-miles. In addition, the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV has a fully transferable 10-year/100,000-mile warranty on PHEV components and the Main Drive Lithium-ion battery. See retailer for limited warranty and roadside assistance terms and conditions.

1 Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price excludes destination & handling, tax, title, license, etc. Retailer price, terms and vehicle availability may vary. Federal and state tax credits and/or rebates may be available “post- sale” (after purchase of the vehicle has been completed by the dealer). Consult your tax professional for details.

About Mitsubishi Motors North America, Inc.

Mitsubishi Motors North America, Inc., (MMNA) is responsible for all research and development, marketing, and sales for Mitsubishi Motors in the United States. MMNA sells sedans and crossovers/SUVs through a network of approximately 360 dealers. MMNA is leading the way in the development of highly efficient, affordably priced new gasoline-powered automobiles while using its industry-leading knowledge in battery electric vehicles to develop future EV and PHEV models. 2017 marks the 100th year of Mitsubishi producing cars. For more information, contact the Mitsubishi Motors News Bureau at (888) 560-6672 or visit media.mitsubishicars.com.

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41 responses to "Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV Priced From Under $35,000 In U.S., Launch Set For December"

  1. Bill Howland says:

    This car has every feature one would want, other than a decently sized battery. I wouldn’t think L3 would be a necessity – but whatever – it will be interesting to see if they change their minds again and pull it from the market – again!

    1. WadeTyhon says:

      I find fast charging on such a small battery extremely annoying. I was glad Toyota skipped it for the US.

      Other than that it seems like a great car and I hope it does well! I’m just glad it is finally coming out! I guess Nissan will be a positive influence on Mitsubishis Plug ins.

      1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

        Why would you consider fast charging annoying?

        It’s 0-80% in 30 minutes, so only about 20kW, and liable to be expensive but you could actually get a decent charge while taking a quick lunch break on a trip.

        To think that many Volt owners complain that they’d like 6.6kW AC charging to make use of a Level 2 charging better value.

        1. WadeTyhon says:

          I just mean there is no reason for a sub-20 mile PHEV to have fast charging. It holds up the station for other BEVs that need the fast charge. Plus most DCFCs I use have a flat fee for starting the charge. It can makes sense if you are getting 75-100 miles in a 30 minute session… But not 18 miles.

          6.6 or 7.2 charging makes sense for a low range PHEV.

          1. Bill Howland says:

            As others have said looks like it has a pretty wimpy L2 charger in the car. 3 kw maximum looks like.

  2. fred says:

    1500 lbs towing capacity on an SUV? Why so little? Manufacturers think EVs are an illness. Chrysler says no towing at all on the Pacific hybrid where all other Pacifica’s tow 3500 lbs. Likewise the Outlander can normally tow much more.

    Only the Tesla Model X has towing thats they’re not ashamed of. Its able to tow 5000 lbs!

    1. guyinacar says:

      A BMW X5 tows nearly as much as the Outlander and Tesla Model X can, combined.

      The X5 40e tows “approximately 6,000 lbs with a maximum tongue weight of of approximately 600 lbs,” according to the BMW iConcierge service at BMWNA. I can only assume that’s an Americanization of 2700kg. Specs vary by hitch, draw bar, country, and various other equipment. As I’ve said before, though: the X5 can flatbed a Tesla Model X. The same cannot be said in reverse. The X5 was made to tow ~3 tons, and it doesn’t run out of battery long-haul.

      1. James says:

        @guyinabmw – Have fun using lots of gas.

        1. guyinacar says:

          Correction. Seems pretty clear from the thread below that the Outlander’s rating is in kg., but was wrongly stated in the news as being in lbs. So while the X5 PHEV is still rated for more than either the EV Tesla or the PHEV Mitsubishi, it’s NOT on the order of their ratings combined. I am unaware of a real 2700kg/6,000lb competitor to the X5, though several are in the pipeline. Maybe even from Tesla.

          And, yes, the BMW uses gas to tow. So stipulated.

          OTOH, the BMW is not derated by a full third for its own upgraded wheels. 😉 In fairness, however, the BMW NA OEM hitch is derated (others are not).

          As always, GVWR matters. None of these (PH)EVs are a substitute for a true diesel and ladder-frame truck with dualies, a gooseneck hitch, air-ride, extended mirrors, and well-crafted trailer control. There are several real trucks that venture into the 14/15 ton range. Few people in this forum maintain the licenses, driver logs or insurance that’d be required for that kind of work.

          Some mainstream (PH)EV SUVs, the Tesla included, can occasionally pull a boat to the lake, and at moderate (i.e., low) speeds. The question is “how big a boat”? And the assertion was “only the Tesla has a tow rating they’re not ashamed of.” Not true. The X5 is perfectly competent, and has been available for years.

    2. Curtis Ling says:

      its 1500 kg in australia and other countries (3300 lbs) but its mitsu us thats rating it down just like all the other outlanders sold in the us

  3. fred says:

    Will the Outlander be available nationwide or just California or CARB states?

    1. Jay Cole says:

      It will be nationwide.

  4. Spoonman. says:

    While trying to see if they have a configurator, I found it on Mitsubishi Canada’s website, so I think it’ll be coming there as well: Gallery

    1. Jay Cole says:

      As an interesting point to this (as I am in Toronto ~8 months or so of the year), I have contacted a dealer in Canada, and configured myself a mid-trim version (not the earlier “pre-reservation” nonsense with no details/pricing/options we seen either)- ETA is January/Februar for Canada.

  5. Disappointed with the lack of battery upgrade and the reduced towing capacity. Won’t be replacing our Forester for a while yet it seems.

  6. Tom says:

    That is a lot of vehicle for that price. Holy cow.

    1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      Yes. With the $5.5k tax credit, they could be taking a big bite out of the RAV4 Hybrid sales.

    2. Mark.ca says:

      Someone on low income (family of 2 under $78k) can get this for under $24k in Cali. Crazy! It should sell a few.

  7. fred says:

    UK Mitsubishi website says the Outlander PHEV can tow 1500 kg. Maybe they got confused in the press release. If its really 1500 kg and not lbs, then its closer to 3300 lbs. Much more reasonable towing capacity and would become the only member of our short list of affordable electric in some form vehicles that can tow. Only other option is Model X since Pacifica is out.

    1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      This is ‘Murrica. Real men tow with SUVs and pick-ups.

      OK, to be fair, in the USA there are no towing speed limits and some real mountains so a tow-rating is expected to be met under difficult conditions, but the reality is that manufacturers here are very happy not to tow-rate cars here, even though the same model with a smaller engine will be tow-rated in Europe.

    2. wavelet says:

      Hopefully one of the European owners will be able to weigh on this.
      I believe that on BEVs, towing capacity has not usually been officially supported by the manufacturers to date because they are concerned about effect on range, and/or don’t have enough data yet to estimate the effect.
      On a PHEV, esp. one that has an ICE version, that should be much less of a concern — there’s always the ICE to back you up if the battery gets depleted.

  8. JRH says:

    I placed a pre-order for one back in August. Waiting on a call from my dealer here in Frederick Maryland

  9. Dan says:

    What’s EPA electric range? Why level 2 charging taking so long? The amperage is not increased from level 1? 12kwh battery should be be done in 2 hours with 6.6KWH charger! No liquid cooling?

  10. Dan says:

    I do like the utility and versatility of using it as emergency power source. The battery save mode and battery charging mode at my will is great. The stereo, interior, the small screen all suck.

    1. Tom says:

      If I understand the features correctly from other countries, then yes it can be used as a true power backup and true camper mode as in there’s power output through an inverter from the main high voltage battery pack. Perhaps I am wrong but this feature would be really sweet for:
      a) replacement for a generator for the house in case of hurricanes etc.
      b) camping
      c) work site power

    2. Jim J Fox says:

      Then you need to spend 65k plus for something that doesn’t “suck”

      1. Dan says:

        Are you aware that VW will have a SUB before 2019 that sells for $39K?

      2. Dan says:

        Are you aware that VW will have a all electric SUV with 200 miles before 2019 that sells for $39K?
        Honda clarity plugin hybrid with 47 miles AER with Accuracy like interior will be out soon for $35K?
        Mitsubishi is forced by Nissan to sell in US now simply they don’t want to lose market share.

        1. Mark.ca says:

          No they wont! Even the ID which was supposed to be the first long range ev and that was scheduled for 2019 will not be sold in US so IF any SUV is coming it will be well after 2020.

  11. DJ says:

    You’d think by now some of the battery improvements would have found their way in to the Outlander.

    This could really have helped Mitsubishi out here but as it is here they are a 2nd tier car company who finally brought a vehicle to market around the time it will have competitors. I really feel like they missed an opportunity for a ton of free press.

    A few years ago I would have been interested but now I’ll just steer clear of it and hold off for a bit. Best of luck though!

  12. Get Real says:

    Maybe this will light a fire under GM to get serious and stop squandering their once in a generation opportunity here to migrate their excellent VOLTEC system into SUVs and Trucks?

    I know I’m being optimistic with that hope but I think GM is deliberately slow walking the changeover to electrification of their profitable ICE lines.

    Hopefully competition will force the matter and maybe then we will see the laggard that is Ford get in the game (now I’m being really optimistic!).

  13. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

    Anyone know what the AC L2 charge rate is?

    Will the DCFC be Chad or CCS?

    How about AER? I’m guessing 33mile AER at best.

    1. Brandon says:

      Says less than 4 hours, so I believe it’s a 3.3 kW rate on Level 2.

      It does have fast charging, and it’s CHAdeMO.

      AER is expected to be 22-24 EPA, but they haven’t yet released that info. Probably in December they will.

      1. wavelet says:

        Road tests here in Israel have reported 40km (25mi) of real-world AER, with AC on fulltime (which we need 9 months of the year).

  14. James says:

    One sure way not to sell too many Outlander PHEVs in N.America is to show up 4-5 years late to the party with a paltry EV range.

    1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

      RAV4 hybrid base MSRP is $29k.
      Sales are averaging 3.8k per month.

      Outlander tax credit should be $5.8k.
      It’s an AWD PHEV. I suspect that they will have absolutely no problem shifting them.

  15. Derek says:

    I really believe it this time. Badly needs bump to 16kwh battery which will pay for itself in tax credit. Why aren’t they doing this? Dont get me started on the ugly faux lexus Baleen Whale grill. So easy to fix. But I still fundamentally like this PHEV.

    1. Dan says:

      YES. That will be additional $1000 cost only @ $250/kwh.

    2. wavelet says:

      They’re already sold ~125K of the model globally… 12kWh->16kWh is a pretty small increment in terms of AER gain, and I doubt Mitsu is going to sell enough in the US to justify qualifying a variant just for the US.

      Mitsu is no longer an independent company anyway, and there will probably be a new from-scratch PHEV SUV model codesigned with Nissan in 1-2 years.

  16. Derek says:

    Agree the odds are against Mitsu upgrading Outlander battery in current model. Disagree that jump from 12kwh to 16 kwh is a small increment. I know folks with Energi @ 8kwh who dont even bother charging it. Volt owners @16-18kwh typically can run 80+% of their miles in EV mode. For a PHEV an increase from 12-16kwh is very significant.

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