BMW CEO Says Automaker’s Next-Gen EVs Will Go 435 Miles

MAY 21 2018 BY MARK KANE 44

This past year BMW sold more than 100,000 plug-in electric cars and is on track to sell 140,000 in 2018.

BMW iNext teaser

At the 98th Annual General Meeting of BMW AG in Munich, the German manufacturer re-confirmed its target of 25 electrified models by 2025, including plans for 12 of them to be pure electric vehicles.

By the end of 2019, there will be no less than 500,000 all-electric or plug-in hybrid BMW’s on the road.

Read Also – BMW Vision Vehicle Teased – Previews 2021 iNext Electric Car

Harald Krüger, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, said that the upcoming models will have increased range of up to 700 km (435 miles), which he considers entirely practical for everyday use.

Besides the iNEXT teased (a few days ago), there is also a BMW i4 in the pipeline (based on the BMW i Vision Dynamics concept from Frankfurt Motor Show). It’s expected to be equipped with 5th-generation powertrain and battery technology that is key to the 435-mile-range claim.

Read Also – BMW iX3 Debuts With 70-kWh Battery, 249-Mile Range

All upcoming pure-electric BMW models will sport the “i” badge. Krüger shared:

98th Annual General Meeting of BMW AG at Olympiahalle in Munich on 17 May 2018: Harald Krüger, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG

It is our modular system for the future.

If that sounds a bit like Lego, that’s roughly the idea. The iNEXT will benefit the entire company and all its brands. For the first time, we are combining all key technologies for future mobility. The iNEXT is fully electric, fully connected, and enables safe, partially autonomous driving. Further models will follow.

We are working on autonomous driving at our campus outside of Munich, which we announced in 2017 and opened in April of this year. Once again – promised and delivered. That is BMW.

The campus idea is all about short distances, fast decisions and agile working. 1,800 experts from different countries work together there.

We are developing the cars of the future right here in Germany. And we will build them here as well: the i4 in Munich, and the iNEXT in Dingolfing.

Bavaria will always be our home. From here, we drive technological innovations and Industry 4.0. We produce more than half our vehicles abroad. But nearly 70 percent of our employees are still based in Germany. For me, that shows our strong commitment to our roots. These roots give us stability in a global world.

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44 Comments on "BMW CEO Says Automaker’s Next-Gen EVs Will Go 435 Miles"

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Says the guy that LOVES the i8 and all it’s whopping 20 mile electric range.

Since they think 20 miles is absolutely HUGE it must pain them to death that they have to put a bigger battery in this thing.

It’s too bad Kruger says such non-sense. 435 miles is enough? Anything to slow-walk already practical electric vehicles, so the board can milk it with old tech.

Customer: “I drive 50-100 miles per day, charge at home and can see all these bubbles on a map.”
BMW: “You’re stupid, we’ll tell you what you want. Electric vehicles need 435 miles to be practical.”

One can even love a car with zero electric range, no? Maybe at least a handful of people have been guilty of this? Maybe it’s not such a crime to love the i8. And maybe, being that he’s a BMW executive, hearing anything else from him would be the surprising part.

1. This is likely the NEDC cycle, meaning ~400-450km real-life mixed-driving range.

2. Even that amount is pretty much the opposite of “practical for everyday use”. More like “practical for most road trips”. For everyday use, 200km average range is plenty enough, particularly with Old World distances. We’re pretty close to the point where, given enough leadership from automakers, 150-250km BEVs can be made and sold so cheaply that they will price entire ICE car segments out of the market. *That* is what the term “practical” should be used for.

Unfortunately, too many automakers are fixated on the luxury segment. That was fair enough when the technology was in its infancy, but whoever is forward-thinking will seize the day. Several Chinese automakers are there; among major Western ones, only Renault-Nissan is getting it.

Why would he quote NEDC for future cars now that WLTP has replaced it? I hate these ignorant NEDC trolls!

Yes, BMW already use WLTP for its i3, so for sure this is that too. Assaf: BMW IS a luxury/premium car maker, so obviously all their cars will be in that segment. Others, like Nissan, VW, Tesla etc take care of the low-end segment and less demanding users.

435 miles is easy for BMW. 15 miles on battery plus 420 on gasoline.

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What’s other these dumb smartass comments from people who appear not to have read the article?

I read the article, what exactly did I miss? Not only is the 435 mile range proposal a joke from a company that specialized in REX products, but it was made referencing daily driving- which has nothing to do with needing 400+ miles of range.

“REX” is even going a bit far, since range-extending can mean those beyond the 15 miles Doggydogworld mentions, or, gosh, I dunno, maybe 50 and enough battery to power a decent EV mode?

A ~10KWh battery isn’t good for much more than a 50KW (67HP) motor.

And what is the problem with REX vehicles?

“Harald Krüger, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, said that the upcoming models will have increased range of up to 700 km (435 miles), which he considers entirely practical for everyday use.”
NEDC? Then in real-life winter and/or on the Autobahn, you’ll roughly have 50% of that?
And of what range of charging rates are we talking about? 50kW?

notting

Can’t always go 150 km/hr on the autobahn. Clogged up a lot (They even have Stau Kalendars so you know when to expect heavy delays), so definitely practical.

There’re even maps with street construction information (even for the future, as far they currently know) for Autobahn and similar important streets: http://www.baustellen-bw.de (an official website of the corresponding state). If there isn’t an construction side or bigger accident, sometimes I got an average speed of 100km/h between my home an my work – including the parts within the cities (mostly 50km/h), without exceeding speed limits (close to big cities, the Autobahn usually has speed limits, and for parts with high risk of Aquaplaning -> speed limit when wet) and 150km/h only for overtaking vehicles driving like 120-129km/h (else, if there’s no speed limit -> recommended speed of 130km/h). Of course always during times when very many other people are on their way to work or back home. When driving home, the average when resetted at the gas station close to my work and looking on it when leaving the Autobahn is sometimes even ca. 110km/h. And you usually know that when there’re typical times with very much traffic e.g. because of vacations. But if you have to get to work, you usually can’t say “I won’t drive to work”. So why looking into such a calender? I never requested… Read more »

Everything below 150kW is basically drip charging.

No new cars will come with 50kW charging, that is a given.
Maybe cheap, or special short range city cars will continue to keep the cost down – but that is all.

Just check the specs on each and every new EV that has been released this last year, this year and those that will come in the next 2-3 years.

And you know this for sure. . just like NEDC will not be used in future cars.

“And you know this for sure. . just like NEDC will not be used in future cars.”
… which hasn’t anything to do with _current_ statements…

And the “100kW” charging power like of an Hyundai Kona electric (release(d?) this year) actually seem to be more like 60-70kW, so not that much more than 50kW…

notting

What’s an autobahn? Does it come with cinnamon?

When I open the Autobahn article in the German Wikipedia and I click there on “English”, that link goes there: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled-access_highway

Heared that the German Autobahn is so interesting for tourists that e.g. in some English speaking countries they’re even using the German word for it.

Hope now you understand what I wanted to say 🙂

notting

He is being smart about it and is suggesting that most of the world doesn’t need to know or care what it is.

So ıf I understand correctly İNEXT brings a new modular platform, but what happened to CLAR platform that can be used both for ICE and EVS?

This makes sense. If you are driving a BMW the way it is meant to be driven it you will be going through a lot of energy. So you will realistically only have a quarter of the rated range no matter what cycle you are using to establish the range. You need about 300Wh/km for driving if you want to enjoy it.

400 miles is the absolute minimum for an EV being practical in very cold winter or towing a trailer.

Make it half and add fast 10 min charging.

No.
The extreme cold or heat along with the climate control of the cabin plus speeding or towing/hauling something already bring a 400 mile range bev close to half its range. 400 miles of range for a bev is minimum for me to purchase a bev. Till then I lease.

So til them you don’s nee to tow, heat or AC? Interesting….

People have different needs, so manufacturers should probably make some with shorter range for people that want a cheaper car. Right now, I fill my van once a month (sometimes every 5-6 weeks) with diesel. That means if I could use the i3 for the same distance, I could probably charge 2-3 times a month. I have several friends that don’t drive more then that too, on a permanent basis. I usually drive much longer, due to trips in Europe. If I had to buy a cheap EV for myself – I could manage fine with 150km real world range. In winter, in headwind and so on.. but I would love for it to tow a fairly small trailer at least. Wireless charger would be an important feature. Where I live, I could manage with a tiny battery, and just charge more frequent. Free chargers a lot of places. With a small battery, I could pay to change it after a number of years. A larger battery, would probably last longer – but I pay for a huge expensive battery I really don’t need. I would of course need a second car too. If they come up with a proper… Read more »

Yes, let’s all drive tons of batteries around, the energy comes straigt outta the outlet

Better than the energy coming drilling and pumping oil, refineries, distribution, and having to fill up once a week at a stinky gas station.

Instead, my car is fully charged every morning, ready for me to enjoy the day.

You’re both right, but EVS Shopper you shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that the carbon footprint of manufacturing a 700 km battery is GIGANTIC, even disregarding extra mass you’re schlepping around. That car would probably need at least five years of regular driving just to come out even with a fossil. Far better IMHO to have a moderately sized battery, say 400-500 km WLTP (so realistic 300 km in the winter) and charge the sucker at at least 150 kW. On long trips it’s not the size of your battery, it’s how fast you can charge it.

Far better, not to be on a miss-information campaign.

What misinformation exactly? People who post about potential problems, be they with batteries or Tesla or whatever, tend to get lots of downvotes and hate. But there is no free lunch; sure, in the long term an EV will tend to produce a lot fewer emissions, but those come at the cost of a higher burden of emissions through manufacturing. If you’re driving an EV for fun and don’t care about the planet, fine. But if you’re trying to improve the world by driving a car with a 150 kWh battery, I would respectfully submit that you’d do more good by buying half the battery capacity and charging it twice as quickly. And in doing so you’d sacrifice almost nothing in terms of usability.

but what about a cross country trip? Where will you find a place to charge that BIG battery in a reasonable time?
Yet it is a very nice car for around town…….

That very fast quick charging is coming but most fly any distance 1000km or more now

BMW chairman said nothing controversial. And yet people in this forum are up in arms. I’m beginning to think astroturfing isn’t limited to political topics.

Kruger makes more money stuffing impractical bolts into his next car, while the “political” AAM lobby (which BMW is a member of) argued before Trump to relax pollution and fuel-efficiency rules, just this week.

And you see nothing controversial?

In India, almost 90% of the people do not have garages and park on the street. Cars with small range are not suitable as they would have to be charged every 3 days for daily commuters. In a city like Delhi, that would quickly lead to long queues at public charging stations even with large numbers of them.
With cars that have around 700 Kms of range, the need to charge would be every 10 days or so. That would mean shorter lines at public charging stations and also far lesser number of them.
Therefore I think vehicles with greater range would find cachet with commuters in crowded cities. Of course price too is a major factor. For those that have garages, they can make do with short range vehicles. But they are far fewer in numbers.

In the scenario you paint, the electric Tuk Tuk’s are the way to go. There’s no reason for everyone to own a car in cities like Delhi, with nowhere to park, super-congested, etc.

This is very old news, BMW. 300 miles is practical as well. BMW should shut the f@ck up and start getting to work. Lame intentions so far.

By next Gen he means the cars that the next generation of humans (who are yet to be born) will get to drive.

BMW i performance ad came up during the NBA playoffs