Watch Tesla Model 3 AWD Tackle Snowy Snoqualmie Pass: Video

DEC 26 2018 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 20

In dual-motor AWD, the Model 3 should be capable in the snow, but let’s find out for sure.

With winter setting in comes snow and that can be a problem for some cars. Find out who the Tesla Model 3 AWD performs up a slope in the slick stuff.

This ain’t no ordinary slope though. The Model 3 seen here is being tested up Snoqualmie Pass at a portion in which the incline is 25 degrees. This is a difficult incline for most any vehicle, so we wouldn’t be surprised if the Model 3 struggled. However, it did not. Though this video appears to have taken place when rather calm weather was on the Pass.

Snoqualmie Pass climbs into the Cascades passes through a microclimate characterized by considerable precipitation. It’s often difficult for travelers due to slick conditions. The Pass averages over 400 inches, but it’s typically open year-round. Chain-up areas are listed along the Pass and various alert screens are set up to warn motorists of conditions ahead.

Video description:

Two for one vlog!

We head to Snoqualmie Pass to test the all-wheel-drive system on snow in the Tesla Model 3 Dual Motor.

We also install the Jeda Wireless Charging system made specifically for the Model 3.

Hill tested was at a 25-degree angle.

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20 Comments on "Watch Tesla Model 3 AWD Tackle Snowy Snoqualmie Pass: Video"

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Incline is 25 degrees? Not so sure about that. I’d believe a 25 percent road grade, which is equal to arctan(0.25) = 14 degrees. 14 degrees is brutally steep for a freeway.

Skied nearby Stevens Pass a couple times last weekend and saw 2 Model 3s in one of the parking lots one day – I parked next to one of them.

He was on the side roads up by Alpental. Snoqualmie Pass itself is a very shallow grade and only 2800 ft high. Easiest mountain pass you’ll ever drive over unless it’s a blizzard. Those roads back there still aren’t anything near 25 degrees, not even close to 25%, which would be ridiculously steep for a place that gets snow.

Any AWD would do brilliantly – but hey, he got clicks.

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Any incline should be a cake walk for Tesla vehicles and all other EVs.
6 more days including today and let’s see whats the price of Tesla and GM vehicles with respect to the cut in Fed rebate from $7,500 to $3,750.
In China the subsidy for EV with be reduced by 33% beginning 2019 and I believe the automakers will cut the prices accordingly.
This will make EV prices naturally lower and will be comparable to gasmobiles.

I doubt they will lower the price all that much, if any. Materials and labor still cost the same.

Tesla is unlikely to decrease the price in the US. They have always said they priced the cars without considering the EV incentives. GM still has the full $7,500 through the end of March 2019.

It would frankly be stupid for Tesla to reduce the price of the Model 3. With the European market just now opening, and other overseas markets (such as Australia) soon to follow, the market for the Model 3 will increase sharply during 2019. I seriously doubt Tesla will be able to increase production to match, so long as they are assembling cars only at the Fremont plant.

There is a better argument to be made for Tesla lowering the price of the Models S and X in response to the end of the tax credit, since the market for that has more or less plateaued. But on the other hand, that market has proven to be fairly resistant to a price difference of a few thousand dollars.

Tesla in the past has usually chosen to add value to trim levels of the MS and MX, rather than lower prices. I doubt that trend is going to change. It’s possible that Tesla may reduce the price of the MS and MX slightly on or after January 1, but frankly I doubt it.

So, they drive a car up the pass and other cars are doing the same thing, many of those are not even awd or 4wd. Do this after the snow falls and the plows haven’t gone down the road.

Thanks for the video. I think mostly what you just tested are the tires. That’s most of what matters (80%?). Although, obviously a good traction control system can help make up slightly for less capable tires, I’d take a good set of snow tires on a 2WD vehicle w/o traction control, before I’d choose all-seasons + advanced AWD + traction control any day. Now add proper winter tires to that Model 3, then you’d really have something. Ground clearance would be your only limiting factor.

Case in point, I just put Michelin X-Ice Xi3’s on my FWD Chevy Volt. It is now arguably the most snow capable car I’ve every owned – as long as the depth isn’t more than say 6-8 in. (given ground clearance) – which it very rarely is on maintained roads. I’ve taken it into the snowy mountains 5 times this year for skiing, and tried to get it stuck in the deepest parking lot snow I could find. Even going up moderate inclines. I’m surprised by how sticky the traction feels. I honestly didn’t realize how much traction I was missing on my Subaru or Jeep Cherokee (both equipped with all-seasons).

Definitely agree on the tires. I’ve been using Nokian Hakkapeliittas snow tires in the winters for the last 10 years and have had very good results with them.

People always say this. But I’ve worked up in the mountains, tall, snowy mountains. Sorry, but good all season tires + AWD are almost impossible to get stuck. I can’t say that about snow tires on the average FWD car. I’ve had both. The key here is good all season tires, not worn out junk. Now braking performance, you’ve got a point. Maybe y’all are talking about studs, that’s a different ballgame, but they have their drawbacks, too.

This is the one bit of conventional wisdom on the internet that always makes me shake my head.

I’ve also worked in the mountains…

Long story short… I once went sliding sideways once in an AWD SUV, and when I came to a stop I found myself facing on coming traffic (in Greenwater headed to Crystal!). Switched to Nokian Hak., which have been pretty good for me.

The coventional wisdom that needs to die is that awd and all seasons are good enough, because as you point out it is not for braking. It wiill also not help if you have entered a corner too hot, or if you entered it right on a corner you have taken many times before, but you have to adjust part way through due to fallen rocks or snow. AWD will not get a totalled vehicle unstuck once it is wrapped around a tree or lying on its roof.

Wow! I ride my bike up snow covered hills too. There is nothing wrong with an EV if you don’t take long road trips or you have another car.
But I only have one car and Ido take long road trips.
I have a challenge for any Tesla owner. Fargo to Winnipeg and back in January or February. I will drive my Jaguar XE diesel. Winner gets both cars. Any takers?

Well “Dangerous” Dan, you get cancer from your diesel and the EV owner doesn’t if you really want to get technical.

It is easy to pick a specific scenario that highlights one drivetrain and hurts another. The reality is that EVs are now viable for nearly everyone who owns a car, and they are arguably superior for the majority of drivers when you consider the reliability, total time spent fueling, public health benefits, and total cost of ownership.
For the people who need to regularly drive very long distances in areas with inferior charging infrastructure, it is true that a pure EV is probably not practical in 2018. That charging infrastructure is constantly improving though, and it won’t be long before all but the most remote areas are easily accessible by mainstream EVs. At that point the fear of the unknown will fade away from more and more of the car buying public and the EV portion of the sales pie will outgrow the fossil fueled portion.

Long trips in EVs are fine. Unless you live in a backwater country like the US.

Make it Fargo to Winnipeg, so I can stay to visit friends, and you are on!

This climb isn’t 25 degrees or even 25 percent. Perhaps the driver was reading the thermometer. Anyone who’s ever actually driven (or ridden a bicycle) up or down a 20+ % grade would know it is terrifying and really tough in dry, warm conditions. Snow/ice covered? Not possible with something like a Model 3 AWD without full chains/studded tires and even then it would be risky to go up and fool-hardy to to down. And you could NEVER descend under control using just regen braking. Picture driving some of SF’s steepest death-defying streets. The steepest streets max at at about 31%

http://www.datapointed.net/2009/11/the-steeps-of-san-francisco/

Yeah, I would guess somebody just looked at the road and estimated the grade. The human brain is biased to exaggerate vertical differences, and thus exaggerate how steep a grade is. Regarding the famous steepest street in San Francisco, Mr. Google says:

Filbert Street and 22nd Street in San Francisco have a maximum gradient of 31.5% (17.5°).

A 25° slope is very unlikely on a public road. And a road that steep frequently covered with ice going up and down a craggy mountain would be a death trap. It’s simply not believable that a road that dangerous would continue to be used by the general public.