UPDATE: Jaguar I-Pace Live Images From Geneva Debut

MAR 6 2018 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 144

Jaguar I-Pace

The highly anticipated Jaguar I-Pace, which most recently appeared in concept form at the 2017 Los Angeles Auto Show, has finally broken cover in production guise.

According to Jaguar, the I-Pace will go up to 240 miles per charge, courtesy of a 90-kWh battery pack.

*UPDATE: March 6 – Live images from Geneva debut added directly below.

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That battery is warrantied for 8 years/100,000 miles.

Jaguar I-Pace Battery

The I-Pace will feature the common J-1772 Level 2 charging inlet, as well as a CCS Combo fast-charger connector. Jaguar says the electric CUV will charge to 80% in 40 to 45 minutes.

The I-Pace is not directly targeted at the Tesla Model X as some have claimed. It’s quite a bit smaller than the X and should easily be the more go-cart-like performer of the two.

The concept version of the CUV featured a pair of electric motors that pumped out a total of 400 horsepower (298 kilowatts) and 516 pound-feet (700 Newton-meters) of torque.  In production form, those figures come in at 394 HP and 512 pound-feet of torque.

Jaguar I-Pace

0 to 60 MPH for the I-Pace isn’t even close to the top-of-the-line Tesla Model X (2.9 seconds), but it’s not too shabby. I-Pace scoots to 60 MPH in 4.5 seconds. The I-Pace specs are more in line with the entry-level Model X 75D, which hits 60 in 4.9 seconds and has a range of 237 miles.

Weight distribution is claimed to be an ideal 50:50 and on the aerodynamic front the I-Pace impresses with a 0.29 Cd.

I-Pace measures in at  184.3 inches (4,682 millimeters), with a wheelbase of 117.7 inches (2,990 millimeters)

Jaguar I-Pace

The new I-Pace will go on sale in the second half of 2018 as a 2019 model year vehicle. Three trims – S, SE, and HSE – will be offered alongside a special First Edition trim.

Jaguar says the I-Pace has undergone extreme winter testing to assure that it perform adequately even when it’s bitterly cold out.

More Body Styles Possible – Jaguar I-Pace Platform Could Underpin More EVs

Jaguar I-Pace

Racing fans who happen to be enamored by Jaguar will be pleased to know that the I-Pace eTrophy will run as support events for Formula E. Each race will be at least 30 minutes and will have 20 competitors on track. Modifications to the I-Pace for track duties will include a lower ride height, an additional rear wing, and a diffuser.

Perhaps even more importantly, Jaguar seems committed to supporting the charging infrastructure. It recently announced a multi-million commitment to install fast chargers in Australia alone, so we expected more charging investments to be announced by Jaguar soon.

And just in case you were wondering whether or not the I-Pace had been driven and reviewed, the answer is yes:

Video Round Up Of Latest Jaguar I-Pace Test Drive Reviews

U.S. pricing has not yet been announced, but fear not as we’re just days ahead from that figure becoming available. However, pricing in the UK starts at £63,495 ($87,201 USD). before incentives. The top trim checks in some £11,000 higher ($15,098 USD). Jaguar says more pricing information will be made official on March 6 when the I-Pace debuts in Geneva. However orders can be placed now at your local dealer.

Jaguar I-Pace

U.S. press blast below:

JAGUAR CHARGES AHEAD WITH ALL-NEW ELECTRIC I-PACE
1 MARCH 2018

Clean, smart and offering a wealth of driver assistance features, the Jaguar I-PACE delivers sports car performance, artificial intelligence (AI) enabled technologies and five-seat SUV practicality.

Jaguar unveils all-electric I-PACE in live global webcast from the vehicle’s manufacturing facility in Graz, Austria

Reveal hosted by British comedian and actor, Jack Whitehall, TV presenter and EV enthusiast, Jonny Smith and American tech guru, iJustine

Nine year olds Lola and Hudson give Jack Whitehall an I-PACE technology tour: https://youtu.be/OnHmcE7By70

Designed from the outset as a premium electric vehicle (EV), the mid-size Jaguar I-PACE SUV offers a bold aerodynamic design and interior space comparable to a larger vehicle

Electrifying all-wheel drive performance from twin Jaguar-designed electric motors delivers 0-60mph acceleration in 4.5 seconds (1)

90kWh lithium-ion battery delivers an estimated 240 mile all-electric range (2); EV navigation provides range-optimized routing options

Unique aluminum-intensive EV architecture delivers a rigid body structure and 50:50 weight distribution

Public fast charging from 0-80 percent achievable in 40 minutes using a 100kW DC charger (3)

‘Smart Settings’ use artificial intelligence algorithms to learn driving habits and tailor the I-PACE to individual driver preferences

Software-Over-The-Air (SOTA) wireless updates available to ensure customers have access to the latest vehicle software

Customer peace of mind from 8-year/100,000 mile battery warranty (4) and Best-in-Class Jaguar EliteCare ownership package (5)

U.S. customer deliveries to begin during the second half of 2018

Since the debut of the Jaguar I-PACE Concept, U.S. customers have been registering their interest to purchase the new Jaguar I-PACE at www.jaguarusa.com

As of today, Jaguar retailers can begin placing customer orders for the new I-PACE

Pricing to be announced in conjunction with the vehicle’s public debut at the Geneva Motor Show on March 6 at 8:00AM EST

(MAHWAH, N.J.) – March 1, 2018 – Today, the Jaguar I-PACE, the first all-electric production vehicle from the Jaguar brand, has been unveiled to the world in a live webcast. Clean, smart and offering a wealth of driver assistance features, the Jaguar I-PACE delivers sports car performance, artificial intelligence (AI) enabled technologies and five-seat SUV practicality.

British comedian and actor, Jack Whitehall, self-proclaimed EV enthusiast and TV presenter Jonny Smith and American tech guru iJustine, hosted a special live show as the first I-PACE rolled off the production line in at the Jaguar Land Rover manufacturing facility in Graz, Austria, where the car will be built.

When it came to explaining the technology behind I-PACE, host comedian Jack Whitehall enlisted the help of the Jaguar brand’s newest vehicle experts, nine year olds Lola and Hudson. Watch here: https://youtu.be/OnHmcE7By70

A documentary, titled ‘Fully Charged’ aired at the end of the webcast, giving a behind-the-scenes insight into the creators of the Jaguar I-PACE. Watch it here: https://youtu.be/tsqUy4VEJ4c

Designed and engineered in the UK, the I-PACE will be built in Graz, Austria, as part of Jaguar Land Rover’s manufacturing partnership with Magna Steyr. It joins the growing family of Jaguar SUVs, alongside the all-new E-PACE and multiple award-winning F-PACE.

“We set out with a clean sheet approach to harness new battery electric technology with an architecture engineered from the outset to optimize EV performance, aerodynamics and interior space. The result is the I-PACE – a true Jaguar and a truly driver-focused EV,” said Ian Hoban, Jaguar Vehicle Line Director.

ELECTRIC

With a 432 pouch cell, 90kWh, lithium-ion battery pack, the I-PACE delivers an estimated range of 240 miles2. Owners will be able to achieve a 0-80 percent battery charge in around 40 minutes using publicly available 100kW DC rapid charging facilities3. Home charging with a 230V/32A AC wall box (7kW) will achieve the same state of charge (0-80 percent) in just over ten hours – ideal for overnight charging3.

A suite of smart range-optimizing technologies includes a battery pre-conditioning system which allows the vehicle to warm or cool its battery, and cabin, to an optimal temperature while plugged in to power. By allowing the vehicle to do this while still connected to power, the system reduces the need for the vehicle to tap into its driving range to reach optimal operating temperature.

PERFORMANCE

Two Jaguar-designed concentric electric motors – which feature driveshafts passing through the motors themselves for compactness – are placed at each axle, producing exceptional performance and all-wheel drive, multi-surface traction.

The high torque density and high-energy efficiency characteristics of the motors combine to deliver sports car performance, launching the I-PACE from a standing start to 60mph in 4.5 seconds1. This instantaneous performance is matched with exceptional ride comfort and engaging driving dynamics Jaguar customers have come to expect.

The aluminum architecture uses advanced riveting and bonding technology to deliver a light, stiff body structure. Together with the structural battery pack, it has a torsional rigidity of 36kNm/degree – the highest of any current Jaguar vehicle.

The battery is placed centrally between the two axles, and as low as possible with a seal between the housing and the underfloor. This location enables a 50:50 weight distribution and a low center of gravity. Together with the advanced double wishbone front and an Integral Link rear suspension with standard Active Air Suspension and optional configurable Adaptive Dynamics, this packaging delivers agile handling and outstanding ride comfort.

DESIGN

The Jaguar I-PACE is designed and engineered to take full advantage of its smart electric powertrain, maximizing the potential of packaging benefits EVs inherently bring.

Its sleek, coupe-like silhouette was influenced by the Jaguar C-X75 supercar concept; drawing inspiration for its short, low hood, aero-enhanced roof design and curved rear window from the concept. This cab-forward design contrasts with its squared-off rear, helping reduce the coefficient of drag to just 0.29Cd. To optimize the balance between cooling and aerodynamics, the I-PACE relies on Active Vanes in the grille which open when cooling is required and close when not needed; redirecting air through the integral hood scoop, further smoothing airflow around the vehicle.

Inside, customers will experience a spacious cabin highlighted by the Jaguar brand’s exquisite attention to detail and sophisticated materials – including the option of a premium textile Kvadrat interior.

Although classed as a mid-sized SUV by its physical footprint, the cab forward design and packaging of the EV powertrain mean the I-PACE offers interior space comparable to a larger vehicle. The I-PACE affords a rear legroom space of 35.0-in (890mm) and a useful 0.43- cu. ft. (12.3-liter) central storage compartment in a space that would ordinarily by occupied by a transmission tunnel in a conventional internal combustion engine (ICE) vehicle. Also in the rear, tablet and laptop storage can be found beneath the seats; while the rear luggage compartment behind those seats offers a 25.3 cu. ft. capacity, a generous 51.0 cu. ft. is available with the second row seats folded flat.

CONNECTED-CAR TECHNOLOGY

The Jaguar I-PACE introduces the Jaguar InControl® Touch Pro Duo™ infotainment system to Jaguar. First debuting on the Range Rover Velar and later on the 2018 Range Rover and Range Rover Sport, Touch Pro Duo relies on a pair of innovative touchscreens which work in conjunction with capacitive sensors and tactile physical controls, to make the new system intuitive to use6.

A new EV navigation system built into Touch Pro Duo calculates personalized range and charging status to assist with driver confidence. To gather this data, the Touch Pro Duo system analyzes the topography of the selected route to the destination and aggregates that information with insights from previous journeys, including individual driving styles.

The advanced system uses ‘Smart Settings’ technology – driven by Artificial Intelligence (AI) algorithms – to identify individual driver preferences, and then tailors the vehicle’s driving and interior settings accordingly.

The I-PACE will also launch an Amazon Alexa Skill linked to the Jaguar InControl Remote App. Owners will be able to ask an Alexa-enabled device for information such as “Is my car locked?,” “What is the charging level?,” and “Do I have enough range to get to work?” among other things.

To ensure customers always have access to the latest infotainment, telematics and battery energy control software, the I-PACE will also be the first Jaguar to provide Software-Over-The-Air (SOTA) updates.

In the U.S. the I-PACE will be available in the second half of 2018 as a 2019 model year vehicle, in S, SE and HSE derivatives as well as a one-year-only, First Edition model derived from a very well equipped HSE trim.

1 Always follow local speed limits.

2 Figures shown are Manufacturer’s fuel economy and driving range estimates. Actual range may vary. EPA estimates not available at time of publication. See your local authorized Jaguar Retailer for updated EPA estimates.

3 Figures or charging are Manufacturer’s estimates based on best information available at time of publication. Charging time will vary by market, power supply and charging solution. Please refer to www.jaguarusa.com for more information.

4 Eight-year battery warranty limited to 100,000 miles and 70% state of health. Please contact your authorized Jaguar Retailer for complete details.

5 Class is cars sold by luxury automobile brands and claim is based on total package of New Vehicle Limited Warranty, Complimentary Scheduled Maintenance, 24-Hour Roadside Assistance, and Jaguar InControl® Remote & Protect™. For complete details regarding Jaguar EliteCare coverage, please visit JAGUARUSA.COM, call (855) JAGUAR-USA / (855) 524-8278 or visit your local Jaguar Retailer.

6 Do not use Jaguar InControl® features under conditions that will affect your safety or the safety of others. Driving while distracted can result in loss of vehicle control.

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144 Comments on "UPDATE: Jaguar I-Pace Live Images From Geneva Debut"

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David Murray

Looks nice.. But I guess it will be out of my price range.

Titolajko

Im Very disappointed with Jag and their deceptive practices and misleading the customer. they first said the i pace has range of 300 miles per charge but in their the live presentation and the documentary that streamed right after. But now the website says 240 miles. they also claim to have beaten the Model x 75d and 100d with Ludacrious mode with their me measly 0 to 60 in 4.5 seconds. The model x 100d Ludacrous goes 0-60 in .2.8 or 2.9 seconds. How can 0-60 in 4.5 beat 0-60 in 2.8. If they are lying about this, what else is shady at jaguar worse than FF.

mxs

I think it’s clear … a)they didn’t run the Tesla in ludicrous modes … b) you can see the Tesla being a dog in the braking segment of the runs …. which tells me that it is probably notably heavier car.

On the other hand, if it’s lighter why the range would be lower from 90kWh equivalent pack …. hmmm.

mxs

Actually the curb weight is higher then model X …. that explains the lower efficiency in terms of range, but leaves one puzzled, how would Tesla lose the sprint race. I guess shitty brakes on the Tesla. But it seemed to be slower a bit in the acceleration as well …. I guess Jag chose to make Tesla look worse, otherwise it against the physics … because the driver wan’t that bad …. LOL

Fred

You need to go easy on the Kool-Aid:

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/erlkoenig-jaguar-i-pace-daten-infos-preise-marktstart-7322966.html

Just press play, no P100D, just saying’…

mxs

Eh?? What’s your point … btw I am not much of Kool-aid guy, in case it is not very obvious.

Fred

Was referring to Titoljako, Mr. Obvious…

Gasbag

Im Very disappointed with Jag and their deceptive practices and misleading the customer. they first said the i pace has range of 300 miles per charge but in their the live presentation and the documentary

They were talking NEDC then. If you want 300 miles per charge just convert to NEDC or JC08.

DonC

I guess everyone gets to have an opinion, misguided as it may be.

You can’t get US pricing by converting Euros to dollars. Prices in the US are lower. And the Euro price included VAT. My guess is the I-Pace will have a significantly lower price.

For the acceleration, the base Model X is slower.

JR

Found this on the Jaguar English website
Range of up to 298 miles on the WLTP cycle.
In my opinion it should compare with the range of Tesla Model X 90D.
https://www.jaguar.co.uk/jaguar-range/i-pace/index.html

Miggy

Yes the press over here have been reporting a 480km range with everyday driving.

Dmitry

Unlike Tesla, the Jaguar will be a high quality luxury car.

So it is comparing apples to oranges. Jaguar make high quality luxury cars, with luxury features, and a status symbol brand image.

It’s nothing like Tesla, which make non-luxury, bare-bones cars with impressive tech.

Oglark

The are comparing comparably priced cars. A Model X P100D is nearly twice the price of an i-pace

That is like comparing a Rimac to a Model S.

philip d

But they aren’t. The i-Pace only seats 5. And the i-Pace is not only has less passenger space it has less cargo capacity than the X. The X can seat up to 7.

Even worse the i-Pace has less passenger space and cargo capacity than even a Tesla Model S75D. In fact the Tesla Model S, which comes standard with air suspension, even has a greater ground clearance (4.8″-6.4″) than the “SUV” i-Pace (5.6″).

The Model S75D also is quicker, has a nationwide Supercharger network already in place with 400 kWh of free charging per year, and has autopilot.

So the “SUV” i-Pace is less of an SUV than the Model S when it comes to interior space, cargo space and ground clearance. The only thing the i-Pace has over the Model S is slightly more headroom.

People have totally been duped into buying into Jag’s marketing ploy to compare the i-Pace to the Model X instead of the S.

Would the Model S be an SUV as well if you raised the air suspension and put on larger tires then added a couple inches to the body skirt?

Hauer

So pricing starts a little over the Tesla P100D.

DJ

Before everyone continues on with this bit everyone needs to remember that UK pricing includes VAT of 20%. Backing out the VAT it’s roughly $72.5k, or cheaper than the cheapest Model S or X.

That is actually less than what was predicted on some other sites and is also admittedly just a guess. Prices in the US are usually cheaper than just the UK converted rate with the VAT deducted but who knows exactly where it’ll end up. Would have been nice if they released the US price as well.

In any event it’s likely going to be cheaper than the Model X any way you look at it which is a great thing.

Terawatt

You’re absolutely right. I also checked the price in Norway at Jaguar’s web site, and tried to max out the most expensive version to see what I came to.

Result: 860k NOK.

Do the same for Model X and you land on 1.2 million NOK, about 40% more.

Starting price for the i-Pace was 600k NOK. Model S 75D starts at 667k NOK.

Gerhard Hauer

(I eran my € with numbers and data. So:)
I compared it to UK pricing from Teslas website which of course also includes VAT. So apples to apples.

DJ

I’m not sure what in the heck you’re looking but a bottom of the line Model X in the UK starts at £71,300 or roughly $100k USD. That isn’t for the P100D version either. The Model X P100D starts at £128,250.

https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/modelx/design?redirect=no

There is no way in F this car comes in “a little over a P100D” regardless if it’s a S or an X. It comes in at cheaper than the base model Tesla anything apart from the 3. I dunno, maybe you’re falling for misleading pricing that Tesla puts out a little more than the usual person as they seem to like factoring in “incentives and gas savings” while Jag didn’t but even still the Jag is a hell of a lot cheaper than any P100D.

Daniel

On jaguars swedish site there are prices… I converted to $
Base I-Pace $100.000

Base Model X 75D $118.000 a 30k more than in the US..

R.S

Pricing is good, cheaper than the Model S75D, range is a bit disappointing, but ok, too.

Looks very good on the inside, though!

Stimpy

Huh? Pricing is higher than a X 75D despite being smaller and generally less capable vehicle.

I do think it looks far nicer than an X, so there’s that.

Fred

Please define “less capable”…

zzzzzzzzzz

It doesn’t have Tesla badge, is out of the range of Elon’s reality distortion field, and so is not good enough to prove that the owner is true & virtuous EV revolutionary.

Dismissed, it is just a ploy of Big Oil and Big Auto conspiracy that must be trashed by all means possible. Follow me on the only true thing for a true believer, Tesla!
/s

Nick

I’ll give you that the I-Pace doesn’t attract toxic Tesla haters and shorts, which is nice.

Ricardo

You want to know why? Because Jag seems to lack those obnoxious and horribly stupid fans that bring on the hate on themselves and their precious. If, by any chance such people should start cheering for Jaguar, we would have no other choice but to start hating on Jag.

Dmitry

Jaguar has a long history of making luxury automobiles and a prestigious brand image.

Completely different to a brand like Tesla, who have some very impressive tech, but also very little experience in making cars.

TeslaPlease

Don’t forget the history if making unreliable cars

Nick

No supercharger network access. No tow rating. Smaller cargo volume.

Miggy

Tow Rating from the Jag’s UK web-site only 750kg.
Bespoke towing system featuring a detachable tow ball offering towing capability of up 750kg and 50kg nose load. The detachable tow ball has been designed to fit into dedicated stowage area under luggage compartment floor when not in use. Towing electrics included. 14 pin electrics is capable of powering trailer lights only. The I-PACE towing electrics are capable of powering trailer lights only. Please refer to the Owner’s Handbook for details of the minimum and maximum electrical loading supported.

VazzedUp

+1

SansIce

If you like the look of huge useless grills left over from the ICE age…

eDenver

We all knew this was coming. The rest of the auto industry was going to respond to Tesla at some point, and Jaguar has done a fine job and priced it competitively. It’s a good looking car and I welcome them to the revolution.

The supercharging-networking perk is a tough one to beat, but if there is money to be made from it, someone is already dreaming up a solution.

Competition is going to make our favorite electric car company even better, so thanks Jaguar.

bro1999

Another CCS vehicle. One more nail in CHAdeMO’s coffin.

HVACman

45 minutes from 0-80% averages 96 kW, so definitely will require upgraded CCS @ higher kW than currently being installed.

But yes, as Honda and all the EU, Korean, and US mfgrs continue to roll out CCS-based EVs, Chademo is probably toast. Nissan, ya listening?

bro1999

If CHAdeMO would go the way of HD-DVD, it would be a big step towards improving the charging standard wars. The less standards, the better as far as EV adoption goes.

ffbj

Yeah. Really.

William

Nissan is married to CHAdeMO, they maybe listening, but it is in one ear, out the other.

a-kindred-soul

Well, in a country like France, there are quiet a lot more CHAdeMO fast chargers then CCS, so the wise thing for an EV company to do in France is sell your car with CHAdeMO.

Terawatt
Yeah – or if CCS would go away, but that seems even less likely. Both are clunky and awful, and with 0.1% of the global fleet being able to charge (and only just over 1% of cars sold now), it’s actually not too late to get rid of both and replace them with something better. I admit that seems even less likely than CCS going away and CHAdeMO winning though… CCS has better manufacturer support and will probably win because of that. CHAdeMO is technically better, mainly because it supports V2G out of the box (and that capability also enables the EV to power other stuff, such as a collection of serious power tools off the car’s port, which would be extremely handy at times in locations where there’s no electricity otherwise available, or the power level is insufficient). CCS has no V2G support at all. It’s a little unclear to me to what extent V2G will matter. But superficially at least, it seems like a great idea. If most of the car fleet is electric, and most of those cars have much greater capacity than drivers need on 99% of days, it seems like a wasted opportunity not to… Read more »
Pat Free

ChadeMo is quite bulky compared to Tesla modified Type2 plug used in Europe, and so far extremely limited to theoretical 50kW that end up being 36kW in real usage.
The V2G is only a gimmic today. In theory it’s very interesting, but in reality to make any use of it you need : 1/ The batteries to be able to accept 2X more cycles before wearing, 2/ The Grid to accept to receive inputs in the real city locations where most of the EVs are sold today, which will require a full replacement of the Grid in Paris where i leave. Still V2G could make sense for Off-Grid locations…. when Batteries will be able to support more charge/discharge cycles than today and vendors will decide to use these extra cycles for V2G instead of much faster Megacharging rates, and my bet is Faster rates will come first especially by the time main cities Grid can be moved to Smart Grid and could do something with V2G. By that time it’s only a marketing hype gimmic.

zzzzzzzzzz

Chademo is the only standard in Japan and will stay there as such. China has its own new standard forced by government with no exceptions. CCS has split personality between Type 2 and Type 1, so no way you will see single global standard any time soon whatever new Nissan Leaf generations will use in the US or Europe. Part of the world regions may see some more standardization on their own regional standards, but that is all.

DonC

The new DC chargers all support CCS and CHAdeMO. Cheap fix and Tesla sells a CHAdeMo adapter, so the potential market is larger. No need for a standards fight. The only downside for CHAdeMO would be as CCS moves to higher wattage.

Nick

I hope not.

CHAdeMO supports power export, V2G and is more widely deployed.

I wish CCS would die, since it’s technically inferior.

Supercharging is obviously the best by a wide margin, but the ossified auto companies are not excited about backing something which will hasten the demise of their oil burning fleet.

Texas FFE

I agree with your sentiment but I think CHAdeMO is going to around for a while. At the Dallas Auto Show I saw that the Mitsubishi Outlander had a CHAdeMO port and the Toyota Prius Prime had a knockout next to the L2 port for a CHAdeMO port. If Mitsubishi and Toyota start building a lot of BEVs that use CHAdeMO then that would pretty much guarantee CHAdeMO is going to be around for a while.

I think it’s ridiculous, it’s not like regular and diesel. The electricity is the same no matter what kind of plug it comes out of. I think until the government steps in and makes ALL the auto manufacturers agree to a standard then we will continue to see multiple standards.

Michael Will

My 2016 Model X 90D gets 257 mile range on its 90kW battery and chargers at superchargers with 300mph, has autopilot AP1 which works great in sunny weather but not so great when it pours.

What does the i-pace have in terms of adaptive cruise control and all wheel drive ?

Since it has dual motor I expect it to be all wheel drive as well ?

Looking forward to seeing jaguar I-pace on the road by end of 2018 🙂

Michael Will

One of the pictures has AWD on the badge.

5 seats means only two rows of seats not three like model X.

Towing capacity and roof racks ?

Nick
Miggy

Tow rating of only 750kg from Jag’s UK web-site.

Titolajko

Apparently nothing. I watched the rather cringeworty presentation with dry humor, bad jokes and enthusiasm was forced. They spent zero time talking about the gps capabilities, how it guides you and eliminates range anxiety for the current jag owners, claimed 12 hour charging at home (aint nobody got time for that), no tech reveal, adaptive cruise control sensors, parking ability, nothing. What can this car do that 38k bolt cant. They also claim 300 miles in the live presentation but the website says 240. And the cherry on top was to claim to beat model x 100d in 0-60 by half a car length. Did they have a half of a dead horse in the x’s trunk. Pfff. Not a great start of jaguar electric future

Get Real

VERY poor efficiency on this car.

I wonder why?

SparkEV

WTF kind of EVSE is that in the photo? J1772 handle plugs into wall instead/addition to the car?

Neromanceres

Likely a European Type 2 Mennekes plug. Very common to bring your own cord in Europe.

Terawatt
Yeah, it must be. The other thing it is very similar to is Tesla’s port, since that was based on the Mennekes design… Anyway, Type 2 is now that AC standard in Europe. A lot of Europe has 400V 3-phase electricity coming in to homes and the final step-down to 230V happens in the main fuse box. That means it is relatively easy and inexpensive to add a 16A, 400V, 3-phase 22 kW charging point in most European homes. Since the current is always the cost driver, a 3-phase 22 kW charging point cost less than $100 more than a 1-phase 3.6 kW one, and actually less than a 1-phase 7.2 kW one! For the same reason it is also very cheap to establish 22 kW destination charging points in most of Europe. With AC charging it is the onboard charger that is being used, so you don’t really need an EVSE as such, but merely a power point (adequately protected, of course, but there’s no need to communicate with the car and negotiate power level and so on, no protocol to implement). Even Nissan has a Type 2 port on the new LEAF. The charging cable for the 2018… Read more »
AlexanderL

Just for the record: 22kW three Phase is 32A (not 16A)at 400V. I sometimes doubt that the 32A cable is the best choice as most EV don’t exceed 11kW AC. Would still recommend it in case 22kW onboard chargers become a Thing in the foreseeable future.

Bill Howland

Jaguar has stated the Euro version will have a 7 kw home charger.
One commenter has posited this is single-phase only, but I read and viewed almost everything on the car and couldn’t fine an official reference. The euro versions have the Mennekes Jack so you can’t tell from that, although I’m sure the Swiss and Italians and Germans would like it to be a 10 ampere, 3 phase connection in their countries, but, like the Ampera-e, it is certainly conceivable to be only one type of charger world-wide, which would rather make it a 240 volt 30-32 ampere single phase model, the type that would certainly be attached to the requisite J1772 here.

Pat Free
You don’t need that at Home. I have a Tesla Model X 100D since last Sept. For my # 65km/day local commutes I consume between 15kWh and 20kWh depending traffic conditions and route used to commute. Every night at home I only need to refill what I have consumed. So depending if you want to recharge every night or once every 2 or every 3 nights, you have a large choice. You can easily survive with the smallest 3.6kW Single phase AC 220V x 16 Amps. Or same with 32AMps = 7kW AC Single Phase. Or lowest 3xPhases AC 16Amps 11kW. Then Tesla also supports interim 3xPhases AC with 24Amps hence 16kW with same mobile connector with Triphase plug, for extreme use cases at home or work place car parks. On my side I finally selected Single Phase AC 32Amps at 7kW as my optimum so it is bullet proof for the future and does not put too much stress on my local building Grid the day hundreds of co-owners want to charge in our huge carpark. There is an interim use case for 11kW up to 50kW fast charging, but in location where you stop for a lot less… Read more »
Bill Howland

Pat Free if you live in the UK or Sweden, etc. your ‘consumer unit’ I believe you guys call it can have up to 32 amperes imbalanced loading, but the Swiss and Italians are limited to 15-16 amperes and Germans 20 amperes. Apparently many smaller homes in the UK are single-phase 240 only.

(Those with under 32 ampere imbalance permission understandably want the 7 kw home charger to run off of a 10 ampere 3 phase outlet, but they’ll suffer along with a single phase charger if that is all Jaguar is offering).

VazzedUp

Plug each end, fairly normal in europe, that way vandalism is reduced for locations like light poles etc.
Check out;
https://www.curbed.com/2017/6/22/15855130/ubitricity-electric-car-charging-lamp-posts

HVACman

The photo likely is of a 3 phase power plug (popular in the EU) and they styled the male plug handle similar to the SAE plug at the vehicle. They could have all the “stuff” of an EVSE stuffed in that handle.

Terawatt

One of the great strengths of the Type 2 is that you don’t need any electronics at all in the cable. It is entirely passive, and really nothing more than a glorified wire.

Obviously it is a wire that has to be dimensioned for the current it has to carry, and isolated sufficiently for the voltage level. But since 22 kW is just 16A on the 400V 3-phase current, it’s the same current as 3.6 kW on single-phase 230V.

You can buy the cables for 22 kW or 43 kW, but mostly the available AC charging points are just 16A so 22 kW is all you really need. The exception is if you don’t have TN network and want to charge at 7.2 kW on single-phase, which means you’ll need 32A and therefore the 43 kW-capable cable.

(Norway is a laggard on the grid side, with over 80% of households having IP network and getting just 230V single-phase into their main fuse box. Most of Europe uses the superior TN network. Renault actually had to delay the launch of the ZOE in Norway because it couldn’t charge on the ridiculous grid we have. Albanias grid is much better!)

LT

That is the European style of charger. The vehicle owner carries his own cable that plugs into the EVSE. It is a cable that has a plug on each end.

pjwood1

I like it. It looks like there are some controls, that won’t need so much eye-following.

75Ds are now ~4.1 second cars, with free update. They are gobs powerful. We have a P85D, too, and its brutal. I see most loving “gobs”, and needing “brutal”. A web check shows P100D bases at $135,000, despite above comment.

pjwood1

..”not” needing “brutal”.

bro1999

35 inches of rear leg room….that’s pretty tight for a mid-size SUV.

Spoonman.

Worse than my C-Max!

Fred

Autocar called it a Macan sized car with more knee room than the Cayenne…

Gerhard Hauer

same as model 3.
same length as well.

theflew

Smaller than the Bolt.

VazzedUp

Would fit nice in my garage.

jelloslug

I’m sure the interior is well made. The rest of the car is “meh” for the price.

Big Solar

+100

VazzedUp

Still trying to work out how with 50% more battery than a Bolt, it’s range is the same. Tesla has shown that dual motors are no penalty to range (and can help), so am a little confused.

speculawyer

They straight up did a crappy job. I guess some combo of not a great drivetrain, poor aerodynamics (why the massive grille???), and too much weight.

jimjfox

so, cd=0.29 is “poor aerodynamics”??
I expect more from people on this site.
Please- wise up!

vvk

That pricing would be insane in the US. I hope they price it way, way lower than $87k! 240 miles is disappointing for a 90kW battery. Looks are subjective but it looks awkward to my eye. The wheels are comically large. Interior looks cramped. I was also hoping it would be compatible with Tesla superchargers. I guess Jaguar is not the manufacturer that made a deal with Tesla regarding using the supercharger network.

Terawatt

Unlike the US, European prices must by law include all applicable taxes. In this case, 20% VAT is included.

So it’s as if you’re seeing the price of a car in another state, and that state has a 20% sales tax, and the price you see includes that sales tax.

Doesn’t look as high now, right? It’s a bit cheaper than any Tesla you can get in Europe in 2018, and perhaps 2019 too if you haven’t already reserved your Model 3 (or own another Tesla). I checked just now, and Tesla currently says “delivery in 12-18 months” on the Model 3 page (for Norway).

DonC

You can get 18″ wheels if you don’t like the 22″ ones. Likely cheaper. Given the I pace likely has more passenger volume than the Model S — it has more cargo space even if you count the frunk — are you saying the Model S is worse than cramped? I found the Model S to be fairly roomy, though the rear headroom can be a problem.

zzzzzzzzzz

vvk,

Bare-bones Model X 75D starts at £71,350, including 12k+ value added tax. VAT is typically included in retail prices in Europe.

John Norris

90 kWh

jimi seko

The live unveiling was the most cringeworthy thing I’ve seen in a long time. Elon Musk is not the best public speaker but his enthusiasm is genuine. Using profession but mediocre actors was a huge mistake. It looked cartoonish, like a bad infomercial

bro1999

Still not as bad as any Faraday Future presentation!

Aaron

Still not as bad as the Chevy Volt dancers.

https://youtu.be/yUPmqN6KAwM

Terawatt
Using the word “genuine” about the cynical liar Elon Musk is pretty fanciful. If you think he’s just the honest nerd that he might seem, I suggest the following test. Head to YouTube and find his SpaceX presentation where he presents his plan to go to Mars and the rocket he proudly, but perhaps immaturely, calles “BFR” (for big f-ing rocket). Pay attention to the part about earth-to-earth travel and how Musk presents it as a “from anywhere to anywhere else in the world in 30 minutes” proposition. Then search for “musk bfr earth to earth debunked” or something similar, and watch what some critics make of it. For instance the physicist who runs the Thunderfoot channel. Try to ask yourself if you are able to believe this earth-to-earth idea has any chance whatsoever of becoming reality. And then the trap springs, when you ask yourself whether there is ANY possibility that Musk himself ever believed that it could. If not too depressed from this exercise, go back to see the relevant parts of Musk’s presentation again. Now his half-smile takes on a rather smug character, and I for one can no longer watch him talk without thinking “he is… Read more »
a-kindred-soul

I did give it a try and was rather amazed. Normally I think Musk tells the truth, in a sense that his projected timeline is always wrong but in the end the product really arrives and has more or less the things that were promised.

But Earth to Earth rockets with close-to-the-city lift-offs and landings are nonsense, simply because there is no way to bring down the noise.

Dmitry

Jaguar used Jack Whitehall for the unveiling, who is a famous comedian in the UK. It was just very English event.

Electriccarenthusiast67

Dead on arrival

scott franco

I get that kind of range on my Bolt with a 60kWh battery. What did they do, make it out of lead?

speculawyer

YES! This jumped out at me….how is it so horribly inefficient?

Terawatt

Very impressive launch event. Jaguar hiring a bunch of TV professionals – and a YouTuber – to do most of the presenting and just letting them interview some Jag high-level folks helped make the whole thing professional and enjoyable, in sharp contrast to Hyundai’s presentation of the KONA just days ago…

But a pro presentation doesn’t matter if the product isn’t great. It seems to be, but obviously Jaguar wouldn’t present it any other way. It’ll be fun to see how it is received by car people everywhere.

My favourite moment: Johnny telling us “I’m here, in production heaven”. Eat that, Tesla! 😀

Koenigsegg

Interior looks like crap compared to my Model S and Volt.

Terawatt

You must have a heavily modified interior in both your cars then. I think the i-Pace’s interior is miles ahead of the Tesla’s, which in turn is miles ahead of the Volt’s.

William

+1

MTN Ranger

Yes, interior is very nice. Lots of optional colors – 11 interior colors and textile/leather/synthetic options. Wood, gloss black, aluminum and carbon fiber choices too.

jimjfox

+1

jelloslug

I see lots of parts from the Range Rover Velar

Benedictus

For reference:
I Pace starts at 63k pounds
Model X starts at 70k pounds

UK pricing including VAT

DonC

And of course the Teslas will soon lose the tax credit, so there will be another $7.5K. I hope CARB does something about this. Would only be in CA but that’s a huge market for EVs. Seems like the first movers will be at a disadvantage going forward.

a-kindred-soul

Not outside the US.

Terawatt
A note on acceleration numbers. I too find it surprising it should beat the Model X 100D in a 0-100-0 run, or at least that it should be ahead even before braking. I don’t think this is enough to explain it, but do keep in mind that 0-100 kph is not the same as 0-60 mph. And it’s not just the fact that 100 kph is 3.56% more than 60. In the US, 0-60 times are typically measured according to the drag strip procedure where the first foot of rollout is excluded – that is the starting point of the time measurement. This isn’t common in Europe, and 0-100 kph times are customarily measured from the moment the car begins to move. Air resistance, as we know, increases proportionally to the square of the speed. So if the air resistance when going at a speed of 1 mph requires a power of 1, we get this neat little table: MPH Power ———— 0 0 10 100 20 400 30 900 40 1600 50 2500 60 3600 So to go from 0 to 20 requires adding 400 units of power, but from 20 to 40 requires 1200 units, and 40 to… Read more »
Doggydogworld

Power to overcome aero drag at 60 mph is less than 15 kW for a car this size. It’s not material for a 300 kW machine like this.

Accel at 60 mph should be ~0.5g, so going from 60 mph to 100 kph would take ~0.2 seconds.

SparkEV

Aero drag force (newtons or pounds) is proportional to speed squared. Power (kW or horsepower) is proportional to speed cubed. But aero drag does not dominate at low speeds. For SparkEV, aero is lower than rolling until about 31.415926 MPH.

From my blog post http://sparkev.blogspot.com/2016/01/sparkev-range.html note that HP aero goes up 8 times for doubling of speed.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KiwiJPOiPjU/VoiLuVCjH2I/AAAAAAAAAMs/r_nKYQLacrM/s1600/calculated_typical.gif

PHEVfan

Pi*10 MPH? Why would that be the magic number?

Tim J

Single piston slider calipers on a car of this level. Very disappointing.

Aaron

Remember that you also have regenerative braking. With good regenerative braking, you could put old drum brakes on the car and it would stop decently.

Pete
DJ

Very nice videos! The interior looks awesome.

DonC

The design of the I-Pace is great and will greatly influence future EVs. As opposed to Tesla, which simply aped the look of an expensive ICE vehicle by elongating the hood, the Jaguar designers rethought the design, moving the cab forward and creating more interior room. The result is a car with a reasonably small footprint but lots of space, about twice as much cargo space as you’d get in a Porsche Macan.

Super nice and sophisticated design.

Get Real

LMAO, serial anti-Tesla troll Don C claims that the I Pace design is somehow revolutionary because it is cab forward.

Well Don, do you consider only 240 miles from a 90KWH pack for a whopping 2.6/KWH range to be revolutionary?

DonC

I see paid Tesla troll Get Real is out and about today. Lovely. LMAO

No reasonable and knowledgeable person would dispute the fact that the I-Pace is a breakthrough design.

Get Real

LMAO even more at Don C(lown).

I guess your reality distortion field doesn’t let you understand that Tesla does not pay for advertising you troll because I’m not paid by anyone to advocate for EVs but do it for our children’s future.

I think the IPace is a great looking car with most of the same tech that Tesla has had for years in the skateboard/dual motors/OTA, etc and the more EVs the better.

However, 2.6 miles/KWH is HORRENDOUSLY inefficient AND relatively slow DCFC is not exactly going to help advance the cause of EVs being compelling.

The I Pace is really a fancy day cruiser for all practical purposes rather then a long-distance travelling machine which is OK for some I guess but still lacking in the metric of long-distance travel for single car households for instance.

Ricardo

Wow, that strategy must really work, you say you want to help the children, the more EVs the better and immediately after it’s non-tesla EVs bashing time. Well, we don’t need your kind to help us save the children.

William L.

Anyone what to guess how many I-Pace will be sold in 2018??

Gerhard Hauer

6382.

speculawyer

240 mile range for 90KWH?!?!?

Isn’t that really inefficient? What happened?

Brandon

my 5 year old Tesla Model S P85 beats all those specs… way to show up late to the party!

Ford Prefect

Why is this vehicle being compared to the Model X, its dimensions are similar to a Model 3. Being that it is similar to a Model 3 should indicate that its competitor is the fabled Model Y of 2021(?) if there are to be Tesla comparisons. Yeah, it’s a pretty penny (pence?), but better than a pie in the sky Model Y because it actually exists!

BenG

Price and performance are pretty similar to a base Model X, so the comparison is apt.

MDEV

Disclaimer we own P85D and 75D model S. I came from Jaguar before Tesla X, F, XK the most beautiful cars I love Jaguar exquisite interior design, I love Tesla too and for me is the first real EV that compete with Tesla, I would consider this car in a heartbeat to replace the 75D, just two issues, Tesla Supercharger is still unbeatable and the OTA updates, I use to go to Jaguar dealer for years and pay for updates just to make my new phone to connect. Kudos to Jaguar but needs to offer what Tesla has right now.

Kenneth

They said I-Pace will have OTA updates too.

James

Good looking car, but no compelling reason why, for the same price, I would choose it over the Model X. If everything was even, the X still has access to a gigantic charging network and the Jag does not.

If Jag could’ve come in even $10K cheaper it might have been more compelling, but having to buy their batteries must really hurt them.

Ricardo

What do you mean having to buy their own batteries? The tesla steals them? Lol, you place a lot of faith on your idol. Well, let me teach you something new. Sometimes, it is actually cheaper to buy something than to produce it. Don’t believe me eh? Ok, good luck with farming and milking and shoe making and house building and, oh, you get the point right?

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

” Home charging with a 230V/32A AC wall box (7kW)”

Well that’s just crappy. I really like this car but the AC L2 charge rate suckz. At least 9.6KW (10Kw: 240vac 40A). I currently have a 60A Juicebox (48A continuous) on a 60A circuit.

My current ride charges at 9.6Kw. Why manufacturers stay at the low charge rate is a big mystery. At least Tesla has the dual charger option to get 20Kw rate.

Bill Howland

“….” Home charging with a 230V/32A AC wall box (7kW. Well that’s just crappy.”. That applies to the USA model – not sure if it also applies world-wide.)

Its a tough crowd here.

In fairness to Jaguar, this is all I’d ever need (I have 16, 30 and 32 ampere wallboxes only). Also, most public “L2” stations around me are of the 6 kw variety, and there is only one very remote 14 kw unit in all of Upstate NY. There are also many 3, and 4.4 kw public units, but 6 kw is the most popular.

This fits in perfectly with the I-Pace.

Another consideration is the Edison Electric Institute (a Utility Public Relations Group) has stated they’d prefer EV’s to use the entire midnight period to recharge.

Assuming the average I-Pace only needs to charge 150 miles per day, this charging rate satisfies that construct.

Alan Campbell

At 240 miles of range, which dictates it price segment, the I-Pace should be priced in line with the base Model 3 at $35k to $45k. Not sure why the comparisons with the Model X, maybe because it has a hatch and not a trunk?

The I-Pace does have a nice interior and exterior, and the long wheelbase gives it lots of rear legroom.

Just thinking. With that battery pack sled/platform, Jaguar can put it under the XE and XF.

Nice job Jaguar. Just get the price right for NA.

Ricardo

Great logic. A Rolls Royce with 60 miles range should be priced the same as a Mitsubishi I-miev.

Alan Campbell

From the Jaguar website:

“With a 50 kW DC rapid charger — the kind found at most public charging stations — the I-PACE can achieve a 0-80% charge in 85 minutes.* “

sveno

I hope you can turn off the fake sound generator, that is just embarrassing.

Davek

240 miles = 386 km, for those who were asking.

Please include metric measurements in the future! Literally almost EVERYONE outside of the US and the UK has no idea what 240 miles means.

Pat Free

YEP. And based on my experience with my beloved Tesla Model X 100D since last Sept, that will be reached at best at 60km/h on flat roads…. in a never happening use case, while where the range is EVERYTHING, means on long motorway trips at 130km/h with all familly and luggage on board they will have only # 250km of range or less, means they will need a very precise planning in order not to miss any Supercharger along the way, and pry for no snow nor accident blocking the motorway….

Ricardo

Agreed. Enough with nedc wltp epa nonsense. What is really important is 120/130 kmh. Give us that instead

Someone out there

I believe the 240 miles range figure is preliminary until it has had a proper EPA testing and it’s likely quite underestimated. It should be closer to 250-260 miles of range.

Anyway, the quality and finish of this car is far superior to any Tesla and that is what’s going to sell it. It won’t have 3 drivetrain failures within 6 months or be delivered with a cracked sun roof.

Bill Howland

“Drive train issues.”

Well, hopefully that won’t happen with the Model 3.

I picture Tesla’s drive train engineers having an exploded diagram of the BOLT ev’s super-beefy dual-stage reduction gearing above all their desks just as a constant reminder how TOUGH the competition is.

Pat Free

Good to see at last one competitor for Tesla Model X, even if it comes with key EV specs Tesla has had for >4 years. So kind of N-1 tech here, but in a beautiful form factor and with luxury finition options that should extend Long Range EVs market a bit, so really all goodness.
Just I don’t get why Jag is not at least following the German/European pack to Supercharge at HPC150 level, like all the to-be German EVs except Porsche Mission E who target the higher 350kW/800V nirvana…. Means be able to charge at 150kW/400V level with Combo CCS plug. Not sure what their shy 100kW statement means here. May want to dig a little more on that side….
And wait for Tesla Model X V2 for say 2021 with next gen tech, say 200kWh battery pack MegaCharging at may be up to 2 times 350kW…. Wait and see.

JimGord

90 kWh gets just 24 miles?
Meaning 375 Whrs per mile which is like running a Tesla with the brakes applied

This does not compute

Steven Loveday

Yes. It’s pretty crazy how inefficient it is going to be.

PHEVfan

Yet the taller Model X 75 gets roughly the same on a 20% smaller battery. Jaguar is lagging on this measure.

ram1901

Was hoping Jag would be the first manufacturer to agree to join the Tesla charging network but instead they chose the least popular, least available dc-to-dc charging standard currently in use in the US. Even in Europe the CCS network is far less available and reliable as the Tesla network.

Nice car but without the benefit of the TESLA long distance network of chargers it’s just another expensive local/regional commuting car.

Sad…

theflew

No manufacture is going to join Tesla’s charging network. There’s little benefit, but tons of risk. The only benefit is to say you have an ok coast to coast charging network along major routes. But 95% of people charge at home, so this would benefit the 5% that don’t and also don’t have another vehicle to drive long distances.

Texas FFE

The CHAdeMO and CCS networks are almost identical now in the US, Canada and Europe. Try looking at the PlugShare map sometime.

Dmitry

It has a great looking interior. The exterior is pretty nice as well. Finally, a good looking EV!

Gerhard Hauer

mixed bag.
this has the range of a Model 3 standard range.
not good.
but nice car.
and built in Austria.
good.

Matthias Popp

Well done JLR. Beating all the German Tesla fighters first to market.