Elon Musk: Tesla Autopilot Release For Europe & Asia Pending Regulatory Approval

OCT 19 2015 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 24

Elon Musk Tweets On Status Of Autopilot For Europe And Asia

Elon Musk Tweets On Status Of Autopilot For Europe And Asia

Tesla Autopilot

Tesla Autopilot

Typically, regulations in the U.S. are stricter than in other countries around the globe when it comes to automobiles, but apparently that’s not the case with Tesla’s Autopilot Firmware 7.0 update. Or perhaps Tesla waited ’til later in the game to seek European and Asian regulatory approval.

According to Tesla CEO Elon Musk, Autopilot functionality will roll out in Europe and Asia pending regulatory approval. Musk is hopeful that approval will come in the next few weeks.

Meanwhile, here is the U.S., most Tesla Model S owners with capable vehicles should now have Firmware 7.0 (Musk stated that the full rollout would take ~5 days), which launched last week.

You can check out some Autopilot videos posted by Model S owners here.

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Will it be the same version that almost got 2 people killed?

They wouldn’t have died.

Seriously, they wouldn’t have died in a head-on collision? I guess you’re invincible when you sit in a Model S, screw the rest. Anyway, I am a big Tesla fan, but I am trying to use as much common sense as I can. If 2 people almost die on the first day after autopilot becomes available and it doesn’t include all those who weren’t using go pros when trying out autopilot, this is a huge red flag for me, hope nobody dies, but I am worried it’s just a question of time and oh those Tesla shortsellers will partay like it’s 1999…

I think you are over selling that a bit. The one would not have been a head on, a bad side swipe yes, the other one, which, the guy that almost drove over the curb on a ramp at low speed?

So the two people that have died in a Tesla, one drove over a cliff and the other hit over 100 miles and hour and with the stolen vehicle cut in half he still survived for a few hours. Although to be fair it is clear that their are some glitches with the system.
Hyperbole is not the way to get your point across.

How are you going to die in the safest car ever tested

It’s a car, not a magical suit of invulnerability. I have little patience for most of the “oh nooooo! people will dieeeeeee!” hyperventilation about autosteer, but there’s no sense in denying that yes, you can be hurt or killed in a Model S. (A poster a little north of this makes reference to the two MS fatalities to date, so it’s hardly hypothetical.)

In an accident, I’d rather be in a MS than any other car. But I’d rather not be in an accident to begin with. Come to think of it, this is exactly the line Elon Musk is taking too.

Safest car ever tested is the Volvo XC90. But even then in both those models you can die in a crash even though it’s less likely then on earlier models.
Even more important are the other people that you might kill in a crash. So in the event of a crash when not having your hands on the wheel I will root for a lenghty time in prison.

I think for approval in Europe you must ensure that your function is only working as described in the handbook and can not be missused (as a lot people did) or at least inform the driver if he missuses the function.

Tesla allowes hands free driving? This is very autonomous and will need a lot of regulatory approval. Maybe they even need to build a more nagging “hands on” detection!

mr. M said: “I think for approval in Europe you must ensure that your function is only working as described in the handbook and can not be missused (as a lot people did) or at least inform the driver if he missuses the function.” Indeed. The situation in the U.S. with Tesla Model S drivers is simply appalling, with many drivers choosing to endanger others on the road by using Autosteer on busy city streets — contrary to Tesla’s clearly stated instructions that in this early stage, it is only intended for use on limited access freeways, where all traffic moves in the same direction. There have also been videos posted of drivers (or non-drivers) taking their attention off the road for an extended time, treating this Beta version of Autosteer as if it actually made the Model S a reliable, safe self-driving car — which is very far from what Tesla claims. Given this very unfortunate reality, if I was a European regulator, I’d say “Not only no, but HELL no!” Was the current version of Tesla’s “Autopilot”, including an “Autosteer” function that’s labeled “Beta”, ready for release, or was it released prematurely? I dunno, but one thing is… Read more »

I get you Boris, but from what i understand, autopilot learns from errors and should not repeat these same errors… hopefully.
As an investor, i’m freakin out over the close calls we have seen the last few days.
The last thing i want to read is somebody got killed because it was not used as intended.
I can only imagined the ones we don’t know about because no Gopro were filming….

Thats pretty scarey stuff., for something that is Not really necessary, Maybe they should postpone this and get the more Important things done untill Tesla gets better established …Sounds like very risky business to me…I wouldn’t even want that option if it were free, I most certainly would never step into an auto drive car at this 0r any stage in the near future , that’s for sure!….Why can’t they Build a Simple EV That has a constant onboard directory of the charging points… Too much tecnology to fast may not be such a good thing….

Next few weeks?

Usually means next few months coming from Tesla.

Given the scary accounts and videos in Tesla forums, Tesla should at least be required to restrict this feature to highways (geofencing, GPS check etc).

Do you realise how many highways there are in the world? For them to do this in the UK they’d need to isolate all A-road dual carriageways and motorways. They’d also need to specifically isolate dual-lane roads or motorways that lack a central reservation (divide) between oncoming traffic.

Either that or a few severe accidents soon?

Guess why large car makers test out new features for years and are reluctant releasing too much too early? GM and Toyota learned the hard way following safety issues and paying billions in fines recently…

Car customers shouldn’t be beta testers.

“Anti-See Through” said: “Do you realise how many highways there are in the world? For them to do this in the UK they’d need to isolate all A-road dual carriageways and motorways. They’d also need to specifically isolate dual-lane roads or motorways that lack a central reservation (divide) between oncoming traffic.” Yes, and Google has had its self-driving cars doing tests for years now, with no indication they’re yet ready to “release it into the wild”. This despite Google’s self-driving cars being, apparently, very much further advanced than Tesla’s over-hyped “Autopilot”. Heck, as I understand it, recently built Google prototypes don’t even have a steering wheel! It has become increasingly obvious that Tesla released this prematurely. I guess they thought Model S drivers would be as responsible as those who operate Google’s fleet of self-driving prototypes. Sadly, it appears Tesla vastly over-estimated the maturity and responsibility of its customers. And it’s shocking that Tesla hasn’t already disabled the function, given the apparently widespread misuse. I’m not talking about just a few “Look Ma, no hands!” videos being posted. I’m also talking about the posts to multiple threads on the Tesla Motors Club forum, in which most of those who reported… Read more »
Every map and sat nav knows the difference between a single carriageway road (i.e. 2 lanes, 1 in each direction) and a dual carriageway/motorway, so I can’t see what the issue would be. Some roads might be confusing and maps get out of date of course, though it would be rare that what was a dual carriageway would become a single one. Anyway, the UK already has approval for autonomous vehicle use, albeit on a small scale, as there are already self driving (i.e. fully autonomous) road trials going on here now. Have been for months. Lastly, lets not forget that every ‘incident’ mentioned here that is a criticism of Autopilot happened because the driver chose to use Autopilot incorrectly (at best) or extremely stupidly (at worst). I agree that the Tesla’s nav system should try to prevent you from using it inappropriately – and that it should warn you and then switch itself off when approaching a known potential hazard which it is not capable of coping with safely, such as a roundabout, for example. (There are oodles of roundabouts on dual carriageways in the UK.) Again, all satnavs would have this data in their databases already so I… Read more »

I see no regulatory hurdels in swedish law atleast,

It would be hard for the plenty of models that are already on the roads if there were. 😛
Drove a Volkswagen Passat the other day that drove itself. But you had to check in once in a while to let the car know you’re still there and not sleeping or having a stroke.

The Tesla looks a lot more refined though, will see if I get the chance to test one out.

From these videos I dont see how auto pilot is beneficial

Ya the car can drive itself for a short distance on the freeway without having your hands on the wheel and foot on the pedal….

So thats it? Thats why people want auto pilot? ROFL!

such a stupid thing, it really is.

What exactly do you mean by “short distance”? People over on TMC are reporting drives of ~40 miles all or mostly on auto.

Koenigsegg said:

“From these videos I dont see how auto pilot is beneficial…

“such a stupid thing, it really is.”

Well, this gets my nomination for “Least forward-looking post ever”. :/

Wow. Such fear of the new and unknown. Fascinating seeing it from EV people…

We’ve already covered that this is a work in progress. Check.

We’ve already covered that there are specific caveats to using the current version of Autopilot. Check.

We’ve already covered that drivers are responsible for misapplication of the feature, keeping hands on the wheel at all times and what their vehicles ultimately do. Check.

Don’t think the world ended or the sky fell over the weekend, since this was released…

Personally, I think it’s brilliant that Tesla is using its drivers to create high resolution maps for the “collective” to share and improve the system. They’ve already collected quite a bit of data in the short time Autopilot has been active.

This is probably the best example of “Trickle Down” in automotive technology, that I’ve yet seen. Geofencing would probably limit mapping other vehicle paths / roads / etc.; stuff thats harder for the onboard recognition system to do on its own. Human nature being what it is, those areas will get mapped too.

You are making a rather large assumption; the assumption that Tesla Model S’s with Autopilot are capable of acting as scanning platforms for a self-driving car navigation system, and that Tesla is technically equipped to gather and integrate the data from all those cars.

While I suppose that’s not impossible, my guess is the reality falls far short of that. As someone pointed out, perhaps all Tesla is doing is trying to note when there’s a concentration of data showing a particular area where people turn off Autopilot (or Autosteer (Beta)), and if and when such a concentration is noted, they’ll send out someone to check out the area and see if they can figure out what the problem is.

Of course, we can hope the actual case is a lot closer to the former than the latter, but we don’t really know, now do we?

I don’t agree with much you have said except for the above post. It is doubtful to me that they are really getting that much info from the collective. Helpful but not game changing. I’m sure that 30,000 (guess) beta testers will figure out and report all sorts of issues. They already have. While not the same, has anyone estimated when Tesla will have more miles than Google? Probably within the year.

Autosteering needs some work but any videos that are out there are obviously extreme. I’ve used it on 2 lane roads but hand is basically on the wheel. I don’t stop and crawl but for those that do, you probably could read a book.

Today is my first long commute since release. 30 miles of deserted interstate level travel. Looking forward to it.