6 Planes Fly In New Line To Up Tesla Model 3 Production To 6,000 / Week

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MAY 26 2018 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 110

Six planes flew in from Europe. On board those planes are the final pieces in the Tesla Model 3 production bottleneck puzzle.

Yesterday, via an exchange on Twitter, it was discovered that six planes carrying Grohmann automation components and robots were in route to the Tesla factory from Europe.

We should note that seldom is air transport used by automakers, as it’s incredibly costly. Cargo ship is the preferred method, but Musk and Tesla are obviously rushing this shipment, so air was chosen.

Those planes have now landed and their cargo contains parts for a new production line for battery module zone 4 at the Gigafactory. Zone 4 is the last in need of an overhaul. Once complete, production of the Tesla Model 3 could theoretically reach 6,000 units per week, according to Tesla CEO Elon Musk.

It’s believed that the parts will arrive at the Gigfactory later this week, indicating that trucks will be loaded up soon and hit the road from California to the battery factory outside of Reno, Nevada.

Earlier, Musk had stated that two of the Gigafactory’s four battery module zones had some serious issues. One of those two was fixed previously. These inbound parts will fix the fourth and final zone, which means soon Model 3 production should be able to reach capacity.

It’s believed that zone 4 will be fixed sometime after next month, as Musk is/was confident Model 3 production could hit 5,000 units per week in June, even without the fourth zone issues corrected.

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110 Comments on "6 Planes Fly In New Line To Up Tesla Model 3 Production To 6,000 / Week"

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rey

Too bad the Falcon heavy couldn’t be used to transport this equipment, lol

Dave

That would burn more fuel and likely create more emissions… And probably lose the cargo on landing, just like the center stage last time.

Don Zenga

Good idea Rey.

If the Falcon heavy can send a Roadster car to Mars, why not bringing machines to the site.
Perhaps it may transport Model-3’s to far away places as well bypassing air traffic, gravity, ship/truck transport etc and land straight close to storage site.

Its just a matter of time. A rocket will vertical landing was unbelievable until few years ago, now the satellites are going in it and soon will other things.

G2

I wonder if, since this article indicates that battery modules were the bottleneck, Tesla has several thousand TM3 ‘gliders’ awaiting their batteries before completion?

Lamata

Good Point!

yo

Doubtful as they would have to be removed from the production line and stockpiled up somewhere and then put back on the line for a battery or have the battery installed remotely both of which are highly in efficient and both options leads to reduced quality…

Hauer

Don’t think so.
Would make sense with Model S designed for fast battery change, but not for Model 3.

earl colby pottinger

If they do 6000 a week they will blow Seeking Alpha claims, fun, Fun, FUN.

Don Zenga

Yes, yes, yes.

seeking alpha is the notorious company which keeps writing bad about Tesla every day. This will be crude oil in their face.

Mark.ca

SA are just posting news and hosting articles from various writers…some which are extremely biased…like that Montana fool.

Robert Weekley

Seeking Alpha Poster 1 to Poster 2:
“What’s all those pock marks on your face?

Seeking Alpha Poster 2 – to Poster 1:
“I got in the way of the Gigafactory Cells! They really were coming out like a Machine gun!”

rey

It will not be seeking alpha any more Stinking /Sinking Alpha will be the new name. LOL

Dave

Wow, 600,000 gallons of Jet A burned (nearly 100 Semi Tanker loads) to expedite the delivery of that equipment delivery by 2-3 weeks, hope it was worth it, because mother earth is crying this AM.

Gasbag

“mother earth is crying this AM.”

That’s nothing compared to the tears being shed by shorters.

Shaun

Considering how notoriously dirty cargo ships are, the difference in environmental impact probably isn’t nearly as much as you think.

Dave

haha! A cargo ship is on a regularly scheduled route between Germany and CA, the 6 plane loads, about 12 to 18 containers is WAY less then 1% what is on the cargo ship, so in fuel burn (emissions) it is almost an incalculable small number on the ship.

And with heavy cargo jets, they are not sitting there in Germany waiting to pick up the load, they have to be repositioned to Germany, then make the flight from Germany to CA, with 2 fuel stops, as these are not light weight passenger jets, and then after unloading they have to be re-positioned back to their base…. Its a huge fuel cost, and massive Co2, and NOX emissions, as these jets are old and dirty… All because of Tesla’s poor planning, if they would have been on top of things management wise, this would never have been required. Lets be honest, this is not a normal process for any heavy manufacturer because it is insanely expensive compared to sea shipping…

Clive

Clearly you are ship disturber /

Robert Weekley

Tesla – is being a ‘Ship Disturber’ – according to Dave, above!

Big Solar

those ships run on bunker fuel.

Dave

I do not care if the ship is running on coal, it is already scheduled to take the route, and adding 300 tons of gear is hardly even noticeable, like taping a feather on top of your car in the morning. Not going to impact your fuel economy in much of a measurable way!

David

Simply not true. It would likely take months to book the space and that would be some ship that could get from Germany to California through the Panama Canal in 2-3 weeks- this delay would mean that may be 50,000 additional ICE cars get bought, how much gas do 50,000 ICE gas get through in their lifespan?

Dave

Another David… You ship across the Atlantic, 2 weeks, put the stuff on trucks across the USA in 1 week… I hope you are not in charge of Logistics, as its really not your thing…

You also have to schedule planes, don’t you know? they are not just sitting around waiting for a load to haul. Ships from Europe sail often, more the once a week, and loading 20 containers is easy…

You are overdramatizing your argument, people are not cancelling their model 3 to get an ICE car typically. And 1 month of production reduced from 6k to 3k is 12K cars total….

Steven

Plus the fuel consumption getting the cargo to the port.

Dave

The cargo had to be shipped to an airport, and away from the airport on both ends… This is fuel measured in hundreds of gallons, not thousands, tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands.

BenG

Yeah the ships are gross polluters on the local level, but Dave is right: Tesla paid a huge cost in dollars and in CO2 emissions to expedite delivery. The jet’s CO2 emissions are way, way higher than the share of cargo ship emissions for a dozen containers.

Ultimately, though, the CO2 emissions associated with this delivery are negligible in the big picture. If expediting the delivery in any meaningful, if tiny, way increases the chance that Tesla succeeds in the long run, then the net CO2 impact becomes debatable.

Sure it would have been better if they had the process and parts finished and shipped a month ago, or sooner, but things being as they are, if Tesla is waiting on this upgrade to be able to consistently hit 5k/week, the sale of a few thousand extra Model 3s built over a 3 week differential transit time, will help offset the pollution from the jet.

Robert Weekley

As to Air Traffic Pollution, it was said, Post 9-11, when Airliners were Grounded for about 3 days, that the air was starting to clear! However – Ships crossing the ocean were still stinking up the air! Imagine if Both were parked and shut off for those same 3 days!

Steven

One step up from burning tar.

Dave

Steven, do you want to compare the environmental cost of Bunker-Jet Fuel, and include the emissions and energy used in refining the fuels, that equals things out to almost dead even, as a matter of fact, using bunker oil, may actually be less environmentally damaging with current technology then Jet fuel which goes through the same refining process as kerosene, and then many stages of filtration to make sure it is free of contaminants. All of these processes use energy and create emissions of some kind.

Hauer

Lets be honest: I do not know of any other company with such an orderbook at/before the launch of a single model.
So nothing to compare here.

Acevolet

747 cargo planes can easily make the 10 hour flight from Germany to California without stopping. The cost is around $700K/ plane.

Dave

Nope, That is wrong my friend…. Every pound of cargo is pound less fuel… Look at the specs for the 747-8F

Robert Weekley

Dave, don’t forget things like the Zero Fuel Weight, too (Max Cargo Weight, before fuel is counted)! Not like a matter, in this case, though!

Robert Weekley

I work in Aircraft Production, Assembly, and have for over 20 years! At early times of the last Jet Intro I worked on, they sometimes Speed Shipped a Set of Wings, via the Antonov 225! It does not get much bigger than that! (And those wings still had ‘Travel Work’ left on them, done here, by contractors paid by their Partner Company – Mitsubishi Heavy Industries!)

So – Fedex, according to you, should not be in business, still, due to the waste they cause! And that is why the Thesis for Fedex was Failed by the Professor, I guess?

Steven

For length, what’s bigger than a 225?

Dave

Haha, thats a silly comparo… But since I know the numbers I know where you are going. Cargo planes are typically compared in 2 measures, cargo lifting ability, and cubic volume of cargo space, and the AN225 wins on both of these over the 748F. for the same comparison I think the 748 is longer then the A380-8, but does that mean it is bigger or has more capacity? NOPE!!!

Dave

Interesting, if what you are saying is true, you must work for BA or one of their 787 suppliers, as the rest of your story does not fit otherwise. Because on the C Series the wings are made in Ireland, and A350 wings are made in the UK. But that does not make sense because Boeing airships most of their 787 parts in their own Large Cargo Freighters (converted 744’s) I visited Evergreen Aviation when they were building the Dreamlifters, in Taiwan.

Fed Ex, is needed by many…. but overnight shipping does have an environmental cost. Realities are we are not going to give up overnight shipping, so FedEx needs to do the best they can to minimize the impact of their operations, which with the information I have they are, they definitely think outside the box and have proposed many game changing ideas for future aircraft, but the cost, and other technical problems have held them back from an actual production change.

Mikael

The difference is pretty huge. Ships vs. planes makes a big difference.
But… for this single time delivery the total difference is minimal in absolute numbers and worth it.

Asak

The difference is actually probably huge. Cargo ships may be dirty but they carry an absolutely massive amount of cargo compared to a plane. However under the circumstances it’s obviously warranted as Tesla cannot afford to wait another few weeks to ramp up production.

Get Real

You are such a hypocritical “concern” troll.

Did Mother Earth cry when you supposedly flew to NY to see the Jaguar I-Pace so you could add another foreign car to your collection that BTW has to be shipped across the ocean to get to you?

Does Mother Earth cry every time your supposed business fires up and drives its Kenworth semis?

If you are so concerned about Tesla’s emissions, (that will lead to far, far less emissions when the Model 3 is delivered in the hundreds of thousands as the first mass market EV–something you want to deny), will you order Tesla semis to stop all your Kenworth’s emissions???

Dave
Yes Kiddo, want to calculate the fuel burn for my trip to NY? and I am only buying a foreign car because there is no EV of luxury quality made in America. I always buy American first if there is a viable option. Lets take a look at my equipment, everything I own is tier 4 certified, and is best in class in emissions. If there was some more environmentally friendly way to do our job, we would do it. We do not fly gravel to the job sites, because we blew the schedule… haha! Tesla will not make a semi that can handle our loads, and they are years away from a light duty Highway truck, I might be retired by the time a real semi comes out. But to answer your question, Yes, if there was a BEV semi that could handle the work we do, I would be first in line to buy them. I have looked at the BYD trucks, and they can almost meet our needs, but the range is too short, and when we test drove one my drivers did not like it in the cabover configuration. They like the LWB of the T-800,… Read more »
Philip

Like many of us , Dave, within your means it seems you are doing the best you can to minimise your environmental impact. BUT, you (like most others) are doing nothing to improve the situation.

You use marginally less polluting trucks – but you aren’t doing anything to CREATE non polluting transport. Tesla is, arguably, the only auto manufacturer genuinely committed to providing us with less polluting alternatives. Do you honestly think the auto industry would be bothering with EVs (other than in China) if Tesla hadn’t forced their hand?

Tesla is fighting for its survival because it has the the weight of big auto, the oil industry, the bought media and politicians (among others) against it. Most of their seemingly “poor” business moves are made out of sheer necessity to stay alive in the face of this insane opposition.

Perhaps you should try doing something truly world changing (in a positive way) yourself, rather than working to destroy those who are prepared to go out on a limb to do it FOR YOU.

Dave
Agree…. All I did was point out that the poor planning of Tesla cost the environment, and then fend off attacks from Elon’s army of …. Actually I do my part more then running best in class trucks and equipment, we work on mass transit projects which as I see is transportation, and we build homes that use less energy then competing homes, because we care… We do not spend more money on the build, but we care about what we do, and that makes all the differences. Energy code calls for new homes to meet 4 ACH @ 50 Pascals, we get ours sealed up to 2 ACH (air changes / hour is a measurement of leakage) @ 50 Pascals, not because we have to, but because we take pride in what we do. Tesla is mostly fighting for its survival because it is poorly managed. People put so much faith in Elon Musk, but he is merely 1 man, Tesla needs hundreds of managers to get control over their quality, and production. People give Elon way too much credit, he is not a miracle worker, as a matter of fact I do not think he does his main… Read more »
Anti-Lord Kelvin

But you can bet what ever you want that if Jaguar was not in fact an Asian car maker now and if Tesla didn’t put the pressure on decades long experienced car makers, you wouldn’t be able to order any electric jaguar for the foreseeable future. Don’t forget that they begun to make cars only six years ago (I don’t count on the almost artisan like assembly line of the Tesla Roadster).
But, by what aware you seem to be about logistics, I think you should try to work for Tesla. Any help would be great to them to have everyone that can make Tesla to learn in only ten years (I hope that in 2022, Tesla will be able to be a true mass-market car maker) what the others took decades and decades to do…and that is the more difficult part that naysayers don’t want to see. Too bad that the I-Pace will only be a compliance car, it is the most beautiful EV among all the EV that incumbent car markers are selling (or will build in the near future), but I hope all the best for your journey with it.

Mark.ca

How cute. Suddenly, the truck driver and ev troll cares about pollution. You are beyond pathetic!
And brw, the only one crying this morning is you! Love it!

Dave

EV troll? Mark, do you have trouble with reading comprehension? I am all about EV’s, Solar, etc… I am just not a huge fan of Tesla, for many reasons. I think their cars lack quality / refinement, and their management is incompetent. I think Tesla’s cars look cool (other then the X) and are super quick, but not for me… I am picky and like quality, well built things. I am not a Beta tester in anything I buy, just ask Cummins, I have sworn at them a few times about the emissions systems problems on our trucks.

I am certainly not crying this morning, and especially not over anything Tesla related. I have no skin the the game so to speak.

Mark.ca

Oh, you are for pv and solar and all green goods?! I’m sorry, your post from earlier this week confused me but now that you clarified it’s all good….lol.
Here is what you said:
“Never Mind about the coal or natural gas burning… Or fish killed in hydroelectric dams, birds killed in wind turbines, those do not fit the narrative of this story so we just ignore that…”

Guess which finger I’m showing you?

Get Real

Bingo, you hit it on the head!

“Dave” the troll (almost certainly not his real name BTW), is a FOS and serial anti-Tesla troll who despite his lamentations that he has “no skin in the game” still sees fit to constantly Carpet-bomb the Tesla threads with double-digit postings that rival GM sleazy stealership employee MadBro’s copious postings against Tesla.

As pointed out, “Dave” has posted tirades against RE too so his latest claim to want to go solar definitely clashes with his ravings against RE. Probably felt it would help his case here in deceiving and trolling if he also claimed to care about the environment so he is going to now put solar on his fake house he is going to build.

I know that Nix thinks “Dave” is another former troll whose other fake usernames were banned and I’m beginning to think the same.

I think “Dave” is just a newly constructed, fake West Coast persona of Smeagol, I mean Spiegel as in Mark Spiegel who apparently is still bitter of the millions he has lost in shorting Tesla.

What do you think Nix?

Dave
I hope you are giving me number 1? I think you are taking my line out of context… All of what I said though are truths… You ever been to a hydroelectric dam? Seen the fish-ladders, or been to a wind-farm and seen the dead birds, I have done both… regularly since I live in WA and we have a large amount of both. I am all about realism, and know all I can control in this world is what I do… But I do not for one second think that because Electricity comes from an outlet and no smoke can be seen that there are not environmental consequences. Thats why all the goof balls on this site that hate on me, should realize, I am most likely one of the few on here that understands how the energy system works, and all that is involved while at the same time doing all I can to conserve. I highly doubt that any persons, mostly Pu- Pu and Get Real, actually have any solar generation of their own, or even conserve in their own lives. They just come on here and protect the All Mighty Tesla, and to Heck with anyone… Read more »
Mark.ca
Out of context? LOL! What context is that? You wanna talk environmental impact? Electric current doesn’t just cone out of the outlet and neither is gas or oil from the pipe. What kind of stupid argument is that? Are you too young to remember BP adventures in the golf? The pollution from that spill is still present to this day, some for the marine life never returned, others changed its migration routes. We get poisoned directly through air pollution and indirectly through the food chain. You wanna see dead birds? Go on the web and google videos from the spill cleanup, there are tons of them. You wanna see dead fish, seach for coal mine pollution. The price to pay for green energy production is way under what we currently pay with fossil fuels, and I’m not talking $. Why do you care what other posters are doing to fight pollution, you aren’t doing anything either so you’re not the one to talk. I’m not proud of what I’m doing either. I have pv, ev, recycle everything, save energy and even have a gray water system but none of this actually made me sacrifice anything, actually ,contrary to oil troll… Read more »
Dave
Its pretty obvious to me that you really just want to argue, and are not trying to understand what I am saying. Of course I remember the gulf spill, and the Exxon Valdez spill, I did volunteer work a year after on the cleanup, and there is still oil bubbling up around Prince William Sound. Its horrible… but pointing out one disaster does not excuse another sacrifice of the environment. I think being environmentally friendly is cool, and makes great business sense. I have been blessed to travel a lot, and when I go to a new area, one of the first things I look at in infrastructure. I have been some places where the grid is very dirty, and others where it is super green, and you can see the difference in the air. On the dirty side, Taiwan, Hong Kong, but the worst is Maccau, there they do not even try to hide it, when you come in on the ferry from Hong Kong, the diesel generator station is right there next to the terminal puffing light black smoke, it looks like a cruise ship exhaust. I actually felt really crappy after my last trip to HK, and… Read more »
Mark.ca

I know panels don’t come from angels, Li is not clean either but you are missing the point here. All I’m saying is this is the best we got now and we need to replace the existing because is superior not because it causes 0 pollution. I travel too much too, i had 32 hours of air time in the first 2 months of the year and i hate flying, i have seen dirty places too. You don’t have to go to Asia to get bad air, parts of EU are just as bad. The eastern you go the worst it gets.

Get Real

FYI troll, I’m retired from the Army Infantry after a 30 year career and the first thing I did upon returning home from fighting in the ME quagmire oil wars was to self-install my own solar 6kw PV system (since at that time installation companies wanted $40,000+ to install like 10k worth of equipment so I did it myself).

Since then I have personally helped 18 of my Army buddies self-install their own PV systems for the same reasons.

2nd thing I did was buy a 2012 Volt and now also have a 2017 Bolt EV for the wife (we will be getting a Model 3 and passing the Volt to my oldest child).

3rd thing I have done was increase my PV system to a 10kw system and switch out all my gas appliances like stove and dryer to electric and my central heat and water heater to heat-pump systems so I now use zero fossil.

You on the other hand OBVIOUSLY have ulterior motives.

Dave
Wow, thank you for your amazing service to our country, I admire people like you, and then you came home and tried to make a difference, that is more impressive. My nephew did 2 tours in Afghanistan, and came back a certainly changed young man. Thats great that you are helping others invest in Renewable Energy, we need lots more of that. You know if you stopped calling me names for a brief moment and pay attention, you may find we have lots in common. I also had a Volt mine was 2013 and was my first taste of EV…. I loved it, super solid car and in the 3 year lease it never had a problem, I did not take it back to the dealer one time until it was time to turn it in with 28K miles. I filled the gas 3 times ( 19 Gallons total) and used it only for EV missions. The engine did run once in a while to rotate gas, and when it got very cold outside. My current house is on acreage , and surrounded by large Douglas Fir trees, so solar is not an option here. My wife and I decided… Read more »
Philip

“I have no skin the the game so to speak.”

And doesn’t that say it all. . .

Mark.ca

Exactly. Ignorance should not be an acceptable excuse.

Dave

No skin in the game means with Tesla… I would never buys the stock or the cars (unless the quality dramatically improved) I have no financial interest in whether Tesla succeeds or fails, but I would rather see them succeed.

Dan

Not that much, Even 747-8 (the biggest cargo carrier) would use about 40k gallons one way, and it could be any one of many smaller aircraft. I wonder, why did they fly to CA since Reno has a perfectly good airport?

Dave
They are not using 787-8, nice try though… and 747-8 is not the biggest cargo carrier The AN225 took that title in the late 80’s, but Tesla used AN124’s that are filthy dirty Russian airplanes. I cannot even believe we let those in US airspace, as they are like and oil leaking, smoking piece of… Oh, they are one heck of a tough cargo plane too, BA uses them to deliver 777 Engines when needed. I figured Tesla would have used Kalitta Air, as most other automakers do, but that was not the case. I think the loads were mixed, some stuff for Fremont, and some for GF1, not sure if all the planes went into CA, or if a few stopped in Reno. Sometimes they airport they land at it is due to cargo handling equipment also. Hey, they can throw a couple Model 3P, back in the planes and take them back to Germany, go get a Nurburgring time, see if it is indeed 15% faster then BMW M3… hahahahaha! I almost fell out of my chair laughing so hard.
veselin

Antonov is Ukrainian plane, not Russian.

Dave

Sorry, my mistake, I still have the soviet/russian connection firmly implanted in my head.

jm

Thanks, Dan, your figures looks to be spot on. I’d say the 747-8 is a good guess, especially as it could also handle outsize cargo with the nose door.

I have friends and former coworkers at both Atlas and Southern flying the 747-400F and this is the kind of mission they would excel at doing.

But I haven’t found anything which specified what sort of aircraft was used, so I just went with the premise of the 777F which, depending on weight, could possibly make that run without refueling.

jm

No where near accurate estimation of fuel burn. Let’s assume these were chartered FedEx 777Fs with a fuel burn of 13000 pounds per hour, call it 2000 gallons per hour.

Eleven hour flight, add another hour for takeoff, climb and taxi fuel, so 24000 gallons.

24000 gallons times 6 planes equals 145000 gallons. Even if they fly back empty, which is doubtful, there is still an error of over 300,000 gallons.

And we are assuming it took 6 777’s to do it. Which might not be correct.

Dave

OK ,JM, I love it when someone wants to talk airplanes with me…. Fed Ex 777F’s do not haul heavy industrial shipping containers… They have no way to get them inside… They haul boxes from Amazon in lightweight roll on pallets, and you are stoned to high heck on your fuel burn numbers. A 777F at takeoff is burns 40K lbs per hour , cruise is just under 20K lbs per hour. It carries 47K gallons of fuel and has a max range of 4970nmi Everyone who knows anything about flight knows you nearly always burn more fuel and fly slower Westbound … Duh…. Now that we have shown you know nothing about airplanes or the 777, which BTW is the most efficient large cargo jet.

Tesla used Russian Antonov 124’s Look up the specs on those bad boys. My 600K gallons estimate is most likely light, and only includes the heavy leg of the mission.

jm

I’d love to compare resumes, Dave. 7000+ hours as a P121 airline pilot with a Master’s in Aeronautical Science. Retired USAF with 21 years’ service. What kind of professional knowledge do you bring to the table? What exactly are YOUR credentials since you seem so eager to call everyone else out?

Just because you can recite facts and figures you get from googling doesn’t make you an expert. Except maybe in your own mind.

Dave

Well jm, Sounds like a wonderful career, thank you for your USAF service, especially this weekend… You have me beat all to heck in Resume, but not in resourcefulness. That being said, I am very dialed in to BA, and their aircraft capabilities. Most of the BA executive staff are friends of mine, including many of the chief test pilots. We are all wine nerds… living in the same general area… The 777F clearly was not used for these missions, and so it is pretty irrelevant. I am surprised you would not just look up the public landing records like I did, and its easy to figure out what equipment was used for the missions. :)~ As you know freight aircraft trade payload for fuel, and these were heavy loads.

Nicholas

I’d like to help them with renewable jet fuel for just this case.

Dave

haha! Funny you should mention that, because the reason I know the 777F fuel burn so well, is because BA just finished Biofuel test flights with a plane borrowed from Fed Ex to use as an eco-demonstrator May 5th. The fuel they were using was something special, but I am not exactly sure what it was.

Tim

Jet fuel burns quite a bit cleaner than the bunker oil used on container ships. (even if the CO2 per lb shipped is higher)

6000 cars a week, 50 weeks a year, for 5 years = 1.5 million cars. (this seems like the lowest end of what that equipment will facilitate construction of,probably twice that) that equates to 0.4 gallons of jet fuel per car, which will NOT burn some 4.5 billion gallons of gasoline (3000 gallons per car) over their avg 10 years @ 15k miles/year @ 50 mpg

Sounds like a perfectly fine trade-off to me to get running ASAP.

Dave

The ships come this way every week on a schedule, and the added weight would be unmeasurable in fuel consumption or emissions on the ship. You missed my point. The difference in schedule is 3 weeks, 2 weeks to cross the Atlantic, and a week on trucks to cross the USA… So 2K-3K added production, for 3 weeks is 6K-9K… Re-check your numbers…

Mark.ca

6k/week?!
Tnat is an unbelievable number for an ev!

Get Real

A fact that escapes “super troll” Dave!

Dave

Hit the number, then do the gloating, You Tesla fan boys aways talk first, then delay, delay, delay… I will join in the cheering when Tesla hits 6K an week consistently. but until then, I am going to point out all of their management mis-steps. Talk is cheap… Its time to back up all the BS…

BenG

Tesla was cranking out 3-4,000 Model 3 per week before the shutdown. That is EV mass production like the world has never seen, IINM, though maybe LEAFs have been made at that rate, or a Chinese product. Every one will be snatched up as soon as it hits the market. Pretty impressive performance already, Tesla ain’t just talk.

The upgrades should build on that. We’ll see in a month or two. It will take a while to actually build 5k in a week, I doubt they accomplish that in June. Then it will take much longer get the entire line tweaked for 6k, and who knows how long before they can string off consecutive weeks at 5k then 6k.

Dave

“Tesla was cranking out 3-4,000 Model 3 per week before the shutdown”

This is just not true, Tesla had their first day with 500 Model 3’s produced on May 23, Of course Elon leaked that to Electrek. I had heard the week before that the 3K in 7 days had not been crossed yet, but was getting closer. They may have hit 3K going into the shutdown, but not over, and 4K is still a pipe dream.

What Tesla is doing is amazing, and I give them lots of credit, but they also are being very wasteful in the process, and making tons of mistakes. Wait to see the Q2 earnings, I think it is going to be painful.

Lets keep things in perspective, Toyota’s high volume assembly lines run at 5K per week 2 shifts, 5 days… No Drama, and no CEO at the factory… This ain’t magic.

BenG

Not magic, and also not child’s play. Sure they could do better, and Toyota is the gold standard who I’m sure they’d love to emulate and surpass, but that is a long long way from hand-building Roadsters in 2010 to match Toyota who’s been honing their craft as one of the best in the business for half a century.

Anyone who’d followed Tesla in the past could anticipate that they would never hit their avowedly ‘aspirational’ initial timeline, or the very ambitious follow-up time lines, but still they’ve made constant demonstrable progress along the way and are now blowing away all prior EV sales records in the US. I’m sure you’re right that they didn’t approach 4k in 7 days, but seems like they probably beat 3k, though possibly not.

Anti-Lord Kelvin

You are missing the point, Toyota didn’t begun to make “mass-production” cars in 2012. Did Tesla could have avoided a part of the bottlenecks they have had by taking more time to do and test both assembly lines (at Gigafactory for the battery packs and at Fremont for the car)? Sure. But, simply, they couldn’t afforded to do that. They are like a cyclist that need to out pace century long experienced motorcycle drivers, they can’t afford to stop to pedal or they will fall, that’s their fate. Growing pains they will continue to have but learning they are.

SAAB-Fan

Extremely inappropriate, where is a moderator on this website? I want something done about this user.

It seems everytime I visit this website to keep up to with EV news, the comments section absolutely ruins the experience with people calling others haters or shorts.

jm

I like that – “super troll.” If he knows as little about EVs as he does about aircraft, then the description is rather apt.

Dave

Jm feel free to try to disprove any number I post, if I am wrong, I will clearly apologize as I try to only post what I know. BTW, what did you fly in the USAF?

andrew

Lots of pieces to that puzzle: Creating the engines (Battery packs) & creating the cars. Good luck Elon!

Fu Turist

Just curious as to why they flew the gear to California instead of straight to Nevada. Reno’s airport is home to an Air National Guard airlift wing and an 11,000 foot runway, so it should have no problem handling large cargo aircraft.

Jelloslug

They may not have had the ability to unload the planes there.

Dave

Weren’t these the machines that were supposed to arrive in March? Also, if these are needed to get to 6k/week then I assume that won’t happen until the end of Q3 since it takes time, and calibration to install them and get them working properly.

I am huge Tesla fan, but the continued proclamation of goals and missing the timeline stated in the goal by many months is getting annoying.

Dave

I am not the Dave from above btw. Not trolling, just annoyed. I will continue to hold my Tesla stock and my Model 3 Standard reservation.

Mark.ca

Change you user a bit please so it’s more unique. You don’t want to be confused with that guy.

Dave

Yes, they are those machines… Better late then never…

Dan M

Are you sure? I thought “those” machines were for section 2. These are for section 4 and address a different limitation.

BenG

Elon hypes up their position, so you have to take all his prospective statements with a grain of salt.

Murrysville EV

Agreed on all points. I can’t see the benefit of airlifting this equipment to save maybe 20% on its implementation cut-in time. This seems like desperation.

Dave

You are exactly right… Elon said this equipment was running in Germany on the February 8 earnings call, and just needed to be broke down and shipped, now 15 weeks later they air freight the equipment? Everything Tesla is doing the last 6 months looks like desperation…. Looking at the Balance sheet, they should be desperate, the music is not going to play on forever.

bro1999

And Elon is as desperate as a wounded animal right now.

7one

Am I the only one that noticed the contradictions in this article.
First it was stated that:

“[…]Tesla are obviously rushing this shipment”

Indicating that they are pushing to set machines/robots up during the downtime here at the end of May.
But then the article ended like this:

“It’s believed that zone 4 will be fixed sometime after next month, as Musk is/was confident Model 3 production could hit 5,000 units per week in June, even without the fourth zone issues corrected.”

That just doesn’t fit into the article, as the machines/robots were rushed to California. It seems like the writer might have forgotten the first statement.

My two cents: I don’t think Tesla will wait to install these new machines/robots till Q3, if they rushed their delivery by air, especially not just to prove they can do 5000/week without it.

Don Zenga

What is the max production of that Fremont factory when it assembled Pontiac Vibe and Toyota Matrix.
If the factory’s capacity is 200,000 units, then will it be able to produce 300,000 electric vehicles, since the production of EV is much simpler and needs fewer parts.

Rafael Sabatini

NUMMI produced twice as many vehicles per month as Tesla’s current rate… with half as many people.

Assuming all this ‘investment’ pays off they’ll get back roughly to parity with NUMMI. Strange, eh?

Dave

Well Tesla has added on quite a bit too… Plant is Larger, way more people, and less cars? Ahhh, Toyota does not know what they are doing, Tesla is better… haha! NUMMI built the Vibe, Matrix, and the Tacoma pickup

Nix

NUMMI used completely assembled crated engine/transaxle/brake/strut sub-assemblies that were put together in places like Ontario Canada. Then they were married to bodies built at NUMMI. Tesla in-sources way more parts than anything done at NUMMI.

Besides, the Tesla assembly line isn’t anywhere near full speed yet, so comparing it to peak rates at NUMMI when Tesla is still early in ramp-up is willful ignorance.

Doggydogworld

Does Tesla get Model 3 skateboards from the GF? Or are battery packs and motor assemblies delivered separately? Not that it makes much difference, those are as big as any subassembly NUMMI got.

Tesla does component assembly off-site, e.g. seats down the road somewhere, a bunch of stuff in Lathrop. It’s not really possible to compare Tesla vs. NUMMI, IMHO.

Dave

On Model 3 skateboards and drive units come from GF1, on S and X the batteries cells are made overseas by Panasonic, and gear box comes from Taiwan. S and X motors are made at Fremont.

Bloggin

Well Done! Mass producing a highly desirable electric car takes thinking outside the traditional automaker box in most every way. Tesla is doing what it takes to get the job done.

Wishing Tesla trememdous success!!!

Rafael Sabatini

Do they not know RNO is an airport?

Clive

I heard one of those planes had flamethrowers on it

an x

“dave”

Do you honestly believe that with 1 billion plus ice vehicles in the world, thousands of ships , thousands of airplanes, thousands of coal gas plants, etc etc etc , these 6 planes are worth talking about?!?!?!?! Let alone that they do that to advance no -polluting cars, How lame of an angle to attack tesla on this is, is simply beyond reason. It’s probably less of an influence of the feather you talk about, so why do you bother so much ?
It;s clear why , for anyone with minimal logical inference skill. clear and sad.

Dave

I do think it is worth talking about, and obviously so do many others… This is yet another example of poor management on the part of Tesla. It should never come down to air freighting an assembly line. They had years to plan Model 3 and get ready for production. When you have to resort to desperation to get something like this done, it is just not sustainable for the business or the environment. I am not attacking Tesla, but merely pointing out an example of where Tesla could have been more organized and done better for the environment, and shareholders.

Ford recently had to air freight some of their magnesium dies from MI, to Europe for repairs, and back to MI, after an explosion at a suppliers factory damaged the dies. This is the example of a real corporate emergency, that was not from poor planning, or manufacturing incompetence. This was an accident which created a manufacturing emergency, and Ford fixed it as quickly as they could, completely different situation.

Djoni

Just compare that whit the fuel spent every hours by US military for maintaining supply channel in many part of the world for petrol addicted nation.
For sure it’s out of scale of this unusual shipping by astronomical number.
Or probably close to a drop of water in the ocean.

ken

what happens to all these car batteries once they come to the end of their life cycle?

Mister G

I see a business opportunity here

Dave

BYD already recycles their batteries at a new factory in Shanghai.

Get Real

They will likely be repurposed as stationary power supply units in many cases and because of the value of the metals they will be recycled and the lithium btw is endlessly reusable.

Tesla planned their Giga to be able to recycle old packs.

Fu Turist

Automakers and e-waste recyclers find new uses for electric vehicle batteries when their on-road service life ends.
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/for-dead-ev-batteries-reuse-comes-before-recycle/

Dave

That is the best way, keep using them until they are unusable. then recycle.