Volkswagen’s I.D. Trio (I.D., Buzz, Crozz) Meets For First Time

3 months ago by Eric Loveday 22

Family photo time!

Out in California, and ahead of their on-stage debut at the Los Angeles Auto Show, Volkswagen is bringing together its I.D. trio for its first family photo shoot. On hand is the I.D., I.D. Buzz and I.D. Crozz.

All three vehicles are currently slated for production, though launch schedules seem to change from time to time (typical VW when it comes to electric cars).

For the U.S., we should see both the I.D. hatchback and I.D Crozz around the same time frame of late 2019 or early 2020. The I.D hatch boasts a claimed range of 250 to 370 miles NEDC, while the I.D. Crozz apparently goes some 311 miles on a charge.

Arriving later will be the I.D. Buzz, in 2022 or so. This too has a claimed range that’s quite high at 270 miles (first drive here).

Volkswagen I.D. Family Photo

Video description:

“Family visit to Los Angeles: At the LA Auto Show Volkswagen presents I.D., I.D. BUZZ and I.D. CROZZ together for the first time.”

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22 responses to "Volkswagen’s I.D. Trio (I.D., Buzz, Crozz) Meets For First Time"

  1. Adoreizi says:

    Anyone want to guess on the Crozz price?

    1. F150 Brian says:

      Guess: Start at $39,995 for a 200 mile version. AWD standard and doors that open in the good ole regular fashion.

      1. Nick says:

        Is that in today’s money or far future dollars? 😀

    2. Texas says:

      I’ll go with $45k to $55k for the top trim model after incentives.

    3. jpo234 says:

      “The I.D. CROZZ-based electric vehicle will be an affordable and stylish electric SUV—and there is more to come!” said Hinrich J. Woebcken, President and CEO, Volkswagen Group of America.

      Don’t know where affordable starts and ends, though.

  2. James says:

    Gee, one of them looks almost not a concept!

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Yeah. Didn’t I read in one InsideEVs article that VW had claimed a dozen times that the I.D. Buzz (the Microbus) was to be put into production, with never any follow-through?

      VW is the king of vaporware!

      1. pjwood1 says:

        The ID Buzz even tops out at 25mph, in keeping with traditional EV disinformation.
        https://www.motor1.com/features/177318/volkswagen-id-buzz-concept-drive/

        At least the software engineers looking to replace human drivers will be happy.

      2. cylindrical says:

        “VW is the king of vaporware!”

        Indeed, that’s what “VW” stands for — vaporware.

  3. mx says:

    Only for sale in California?

    1. Texas says:

      Probably. The main problem with VW EVs in Texas is that none of the VW dealers are certified to service EVs. One advantage Ford and Chevrolet dealers have in Texas is that many dealers are certified to service EVs.

      1. John Doe says:

        It’s not that big of a deal. At least not for a regular educated mechanic.
        They have to do some classes at VW, and pass 3 tests. It’s the same with BMW for example.
        This is (at least in Norway) paid by VW, BMW, Ford or what ever.

        It they are an independent repair shop, they may have a harder time..

        The dealer will have to invest in some extra equipment, but that is kind of like a one time investment.
        In addition they have to provide safety equipment for the mechanic.

        In Norway, a mechanic learns a lot of electronics to begin with. All they have to learn is the safety procedures with high voltage, and the new maintenance routines.

        A lot of the mechanical work it usually just like a normal car. Breaks, shocks, driveshafts and so on.

        It is kind of the same change that happened in machining, where older people struggled some to learn CNC programming, since they had learned manual use of various machines.
        The problem was that the younger once only learned CNC, and not the older machines. Kind of a shame, since it is a skill they should learn.

        We have a few i3’s at work, and so far they have been really cheap to service. We paid a sum for all maintenance over a 5 year period. That equals about a regualt small maintenance on our Audi A6 for example.

  4. O@Z says:

    In Portugal, it will probably cost more than 60,000 euros, otherwise who would buy a, smaller, diesel and with fewer bhp, Tiguan 2.0 TDI 240 DSG 4Motion which costs 52,000 euros?

  5. William says:

    Where is the Volkswagen “I. D.-One” Waiting On VWaporware?

    Should be a family of Four – Not “Four” Sale!

  6. Serial anti tesla troll thomas says:

    What about the Tesla M3 Vaporware? In a few days we will see.

    1. Get Real says:

      I’m starting to see them now doubting Thomas.

      Why don’t you go suck on your clean diesel?

      1. ffbj says:

        Ooh, you went biblical on him.

  7. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

    If the BUZZ had AWD ~MAYBE~ I would consider it. The others……….meh.

  8. I think all three would sell like hotcakes. The obvious next step is a rear drive I.D. Beetle, I think.

    Are these newer prototypes, or the same units we have been seeing, for a while now?

    1. John Doe says:

      These are all prototypes in various stages.

      Right now they are working on regulations, and a lot of calculations. What are they going to include in the production model, how can they automate the production of the vehicle they have planned. What have to be changed due to cost, production speed/price/automation and so on.

      The platform is like 95% finished, the rest is just car design, pre testing, production line setup, pre production testing, changes, post testing – and then it’s full production.

      The three models here are in various stanges, and it will normally take 5 years from when one model is released to the next comes. Depending on the changes, and what platform they use.
      Normally they show the prototype 1-3 years ahead of the production launche. In the EV market, they have showed their protype early. There are probably two reasons for this. To show they are working on it, so future customers can prepare themselves for an EV when they buy a car the next time. The other it probably to show strengh, to show they have several models in the pipeline, and to show suppliers where they’re heading – and to work on their brand, to show they also focus on EVs.

      All brands start on the next model just as the first model leave the plant.

      With extreme urge they can cut the time to two years – but that has led to problems previously for several brands. Shorter time = a lot more money too.

      VW has a certain amount of time to release their models due to the low overall EV sales – and the need for regulations and technology to be ready. They have the E-Golf that use the same production line and platform as the current ICE Golf to cut costs.

      With the introduction of the from the ground up EV designs – they need volume production.
      They have worked a lot with partners to be able to have a competitive price to get the volumes they need.

      The release date for the first vehicle is closely calculated, when it comes to production price, time to finish and develop their platform, to set up new production lines for parts that is going in the new EVs, EUs massive green change – and the regulations that follow, the time it takes to get partners – and together build the charging infrastructure. Testing, design and production of wireless charging.
      All must be ready in order to hold prices competitive to ICE cars, at the same time – they can not be too slow to the EV market.
      That is why they released the E-Golf for example, that has at least in Norway been a top seller.

      I think the I.D.Beetle could be made in the US, as that is probably the main market.
      But it must not be a rushed product. It must be ready and well designed.

      It’s going to be interesting to see how things will change when 3-4 of the largest brands invest more in EV.
      How will it affect prices, what they offer, how they will divercify themselves from each other. How much of the technology will be their own, how much will they buy from others, and how hard does suppliers work to get a position in the EV market.
      How will China use their lithium resourses?

      I think EVs should have 4×4 if possible, and just have the ability to shut of FWD once in a while.
      I’m also thinking on how/if batteries will be more serviceable in the future, where it’s cheaper to change bad cells.

  9. Mark.ca says:

    Lovely photo of evs with the LA drowning in smog in the background. Just perfect!
    I was under the impression that the ID was not going to make it to US and stay in EU. When did that change?

    1. Asak says:

      Yeah the smog here in CA is really bad. Apparently despite all our efforts we still have the worst polluted cities in the country. I think a lot of people don’t understand that the clean air regulations out of CA are no joke. We really need them here. I hope that one day EVs are ubiquitous and maybe we can have truly clear skies.

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