Next Generation Toyota Prius Debuts, Now Here Is The Plug-In Version?

SEP 9 2015 BY MARK KANE 88

This Drawing Of 2nd Gen Toyota Prius PHV (via ) Would Seem To Be The Real Deal In Light Of Accuracy Of "Regular" Prius Drawings Confirmed Accuracy

This Drawing Of 2nd Gen Toyota Prius PHV (via Mobile.Autonet) Would Seem To Be The Real Deal In Light Of Accuracy Of “Regular” Prius Drawings Confirmed Accuracy

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

After selling overall 8 million hybrids, Toyota unveiled its all-new fourth generation Prius flagship in Las Vegas last night.

The 2016 Prius is influenced by Toyota’s new design language, which we leave without comment, but reminds us a lot of the company’s fuel cell Mirai.

The new Prius is slightly longer (2.4 inches / 60 mm), wider (0.6 inches / 15 mm) and lower (0.8 inches / 20 mm) than the outgoing model.

As for the hybrid system itself, it is smaller and lighter ,with more energy-dense batteries (possibly lithium-ion), although Toyota hasn’t released any di detailed specs yet, other than to say efficiency is up ~10% (expected fuel economy of about 54-55 MPG). Toyota also added standard LED headlamps.

The 2016 Prius is also the first model to implement the Toyota’s New Global Architecture (TNGA), so we wonder what all this means for the 2nd Gen Toyota Prius PHV? Or Prius Plin-In/PiP if you will.

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius recently highlighted possible leaked drawings/renders of both the 4th generation regular hybrid and 2nd gen Prius PHV two months ago via a Taiwanese website.

Which is no big deal, it happens a lot.  But it turns out that website  was bang-on correct as to what the petrol Prius would resemble before anyone else had a clue.  (as shown in the graphic comparison below)

So, if the Taiwanese source was accurate in the look of the just released standard hybrid, then we suspect the above graphic also clearly represents the new plug-in Prius.  Also then perhaps, the ‘insider’ listed specs by the site for the new plug-in hybrid Prius will also be accurate too.

Some Cartoon Commentary On Recent Prius Re-Design (via James Melvin)

Some Cartoon Commentary On Recent Prius Re-Design (via James Melvin)

According to the source, the Prius PHV will be 1,350 kg (2,976 lbs) compared to 1,280 kg (2,822 lbs) for the regular Prius.

The Prius PHV engine is Toyota’s 1.8-liter DOHC VVT-i inline four-cylinder gasoline engine, which puts out 105 hp at 5000 rpm. Another 90 hp comes from the electric motor, for a total 145-150 hp of system power (inputs don’t add up directly). Current PHV is equipped with a 60 kW electric motor.

Around 50 km (31 miles) of all-electric range (in JC08 estimations) was their range estimate posted to around 26.4 km (16.4 miles) for the previous version – or 11 miles (nearly 18 km) of EPA.  In other words, performance will go up (range could nearly double to 20 miles / 32 km EPA), but as always, we still need to wait for confirmation.

Comparison Of June 17th, 2015 Drawing Of Standard 4th Generationation Prius Vs Reality That Debuted On Wednesday (via Mobile.Autonet)

Comparison Of June 17th, 2015 Drawing Of Standard 4th Generationation Prius Vs Reality That Debuted On Wednesday (via Mobile.Autonet)

 2016 Toyota Prius:

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

2016 Toyota Prius

Full Toyota press release:

Beyond Possible: The Sky’s the Limit for the All-New 2016 Prius at Las Vegas World Premiere Event

  • Striking exterior design ushers in new hybrid era
  • New platform and rear double wishbone suspension dial up driving dynamics
  • Ten percent fuel economy improvement on core models; highest MPG without a plug
  • First vehicle based on Toyota’s New Global Architecture
  • Toyota Safety Sense system available among other safety enhancements
September 09, 2015
LAS VEGAS, Sept. 8, 2015 – – The same vehicle that pioneered the hybrid category just disrupted the status quo again. The all-new, fourth-generation Prius starred in a spectacular evening production of music, food and special effects to celebrate an industry icon in a way that was anything but expected.More than 350 journalists, social influencers and Toyota guests watched the all-new 2016 Prius elevate into the Las Vegas night sky. After almost twenty years of shaping the world view on alternative energy vehicles, and more than 3.5 million global sales, Prius is setting out to change the world again.Today’s consumers expect environmental credentials, and the new Prius delivers. Smaller, lighter hybrid system components, higher-energy density in the batteries, and an internal combustion engine touting ground-breaking thermal efficiency (more than forty percent), contribute to a significant advancement in fuel economy.   With an expected ten percent improvement in EPA estimated MPG on core models, Prius will offer best-in-class fuel economy among vehicles without a plug.  A soon-to-be unveiled Eco model will achieve an even greater improvement, strengthening Toyota’s leadership in hybrid fuel efficiency.But it’s not just about MPG anymore.  Today’s customers want all the traditional benefits of a hybrid, but don’t want to compromise on looks and performance.  So Toyota upgraded the Prius inside and out to deliver the complete package – emotional styling, smarter technology and impressive MPG, in a vehicle that’s more fun to drive than ever.“Prius set the global benchmark for hybrids, but now is breaking its own boundaries with more engaging style and fun-to-drive dynamics,” said Bill Fay, group vice president and general manager, Toyota Division.  “What was once a rational purchase that for many customers focused on fuel economy, is now so much more.  This Prius will invite new drivers into the category by delivering an impressive look and feel, built on the foundation of safety and eco-consciousness that define the vehicle’s heritage.”

Easy on the Eyes
The Prius’ exterior has been completely reimagined. From the side, it is longer and sleeker with the overall outline evoking an athletic shape.  Inspired by a runner in the starting blocks, the sporty design conveys a feeling of forward motion.

The hood is lower and the distinctive roof peak has been moved forward. Bold character lines run along the side from the front fenders – one just above the sill that sweeps up towards the rear fender, while the upper crease morphs into the rear spoiler, which has been lowered.

The use of new standard LED headlamps minimizes the Prius’ front fascia and, at the same time, provides an arresting lighting display which helps define the vehicle’s character. The unique and striking rear combination lamps express the distinctive lines of the Prius from the rear spoiler to the trailing edges of the sides.

A palette of seven exterior colors includes an all-new Toyota hue, “Hypersonic Red.”  This new color utilizes a newly developed treatment process, which results in a deep and vibrant luster highlighting the external forms.

Need a Hug?
The Prius’ new, premium interior adopts advanced technology complemented by features that are functional, fun and have high visual impact. The wrap-around dash design, form-hugging seats, ease of controls and improved visibility put the driver in complete control.

Once inside, drivers will feel immediately comfortable and impressed by styling cues that are unique in the industry.  The wide instrument panel, seamlessly designed to be both functional and beautiful, gives a sense of comfort and spaciousness.  Available premium white ornamentation in the lower sections of the cabin is reminiscent of fine bone china.

Efficient Development from the Start
The 2016 Prius is the first global vehicle to implement Toyota’s New Global Architecture (TNGA).  TNGA aims to greatly improve core vehicle performance and enhance product appeal through an integrated development program for powertrain components and vehicle platforms. Development of vehicles is being grouped to promote strategic sharing of components with the goal of improving resource efficiency by better than twenty percent. Resources will be directed into developing advanced technologies, and most importantly even further strengthening product appeal.

A Fun-to-Drive Hybrid?  A “Wish” Come True
Engineered from the ground up, the new Prius is 2.4 inches longer, 0.6 inches wider and 0.8 inches lower than the model it replaces, providing a planted on-road presence while delivering more occupant and cargo room.

Hallmarks of TNGA, a lower center of gravity and a more responsive suspension package, dial up the driving excitement. In fact, the height of the Prius’ front badge is exactly the same as that of Scion’s FR-S sports car – a remarkable achievement in height and mass reduction.

The all-new rear double wishbone suspension produces a better connection to the road, providing greater control and feedback in all driving conditions.  A more rigid body helps improve responsiveness while cornering. From winding mountain roads to the wide boulevards downtown, the new Prius stays connected to the road, without sacrificing ride quality and occupant comfort.

Safety First
TNGA also provides a more rigid structural framework to help enhance occupant protection in the event of a collision. The high strength upper body is designed to distribute frontal collision impact energy. Plus, the Prius will be among the first U.S. models to offer Toyota Safety Sense (TSS), a new multi-feature advanced safety package anchored by automated pre-collision braking.  TSS bundles cutting edge safety technologies including:

  • Pre-Collision System with Pedestrian Detection
  • Lane Departure Alert with Steering Assist
  • Full-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control
  • Automatic High Beams

Available on the new Prius, Toyota aims to make Toyota Safety Sense available across nearly the entire vehicle lineup by the end of 2017.

Setting the Stage for the Future of Mobility
It started in 1992 with a vision for the future – mobility in harmony with society.  Prius, which means “to go before” changed the way we move about the world, and changed the automotive industry forever.  More than two decades and over 8 million Toyota hybrid sales later, the all-new, no compromises 2016 Prius stands side by side with its sibling, the hydrogen powered Mirai, poised to change the game yet again. The new Prius will arrive in dealerships early next year.

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Should be good at hiding fender benders….as it looks like it was in several already.

+1 LOL, good one!

+2, I was going to ask, how do you know if you’ve been hit from behind?”

LOL! It does have a really weird over-accented grille.

The overall shape is OK (and it looks like they made it look more like the Volt, interesting), but that grille . . . meh.

That was my immediate response too, a Gen 1 Volt as designed by Hyundai/Kia.


It’s still ugly and again with the center mount dash?

center mounted dash is beyond horrid. Not to mention a safety hazard.

It’s central in the Gen 3 Prius and it’s really not a problem at all.

Is driving a car a two person job in Japan? 😉

It is nice to have the nav, radio, and climate control stuff in the center so the passenger can adjust those things. But I don’t see why the speedometer & driving things need to be in the center.

The original Morris Mini-Minor had all instruments in the middle, reportedly to have more commonality between RHD and LHD versions.

The center mounted instrument cluster is a way for them to SAVE MONEY by only having to produce one dash for both left hand drive and right hand drive cars. You’ll never see that on expensive cars, and always see it on cheap ass cars. Toyota continues to Wal*mart-rinize thier Prius, making it bigger, yet lighter and feel like its made in a cheap factory in the backwoods of some country. Thats not exactly true of course, its made in Japan, by very highly skilled highly paid labor. Japan just continues to falter on innovation these days.. It’s getting worse and not better.
How can they produce the lovely Highlander and 4Runner, then produce such ugliness as the Lexus RX300 and Prius? The camry and corolla look like they were from the same boring cookie cutter, and Toyota just put a pretty smile on each.

BMW Mini has a center speedometer and it’s definitely not a cheap car.

“Lovely Highlander and 4runner”?

I literally choked on my drink. You like the carp-faced look? Unless you’re referring to older models, then I can understand, even if I don’t agree…

I don’t know if it’s standard or an option, but the new Prius has a color heads up display on the windshield in front of the driver.

Better to mount my movie device behind the wheel. No, seriously, great place for a mount holding a device with OBDII output (from cheap bluetooth adapter plugged in below) showing possibly a lot better visualizations than the standard.

Typo! 1350 kg (the estimated weight of hybrid Prius) is roughly 2976 Ib and not 3976.

Thanks, soon to be fixed.

If there were no other competitors on the market, I’d buy one. But as it is, this car is so far behind the Volt and other PHEV models it isn’t even funny. I’d probably rather have a C-Max Energi.

20 miles AER on EPA is nearly enough for me. But if this car is at the same price range of the volt, I won’t even consider it.

Me too. The C-Max would at least have better performance, handling and driving dynamics.

Unless by “driving dynamics” you mean maneuverability. The CMax is definitely not nimble.

Yeah, this is a pretty pathetic offering from Toyota. And we all know that Toyota can do much MUCH better. But they are continuing to downplay PHEVs & BEVs.

I agree that the Ford Energi cars are better but that is not saying much because I think they are quite underbatteried.

“But as it is, this car is so far behind the Volt and other PHEV models it isn’t even funny”

2016 Volt gets 45mpg hwy
2016 Prius gets 55mpg hwy… ?

Hows the Prius so far behind? after the batterys depleted the Prius is far superior as far as mpg goes

Yep, a 5 mpg bump while also making the car bigger is solid progress. The Prius still stands out ahead of all other no-plug cars, which is where the vast majority of the car-buying market is still. So that’s nothing to be scoffed at, IMO.

And if they do double the electric range of the PHEV, that is also solid progress. I’m looking forward to seeing if they enable better electric-only functionality.

5mpg bump is misleading: its a reduction of 2/11gal per 100 miles. Its like going from 30mpg to 31.7mpg.

Because no gas for the first 53 miles is a really big deal. That’s 90% of all driving. The only situation where the Prius is competitive is where the owner can’t plug in, or if they drive hundreds of miles per day. In other words, most Prius owners would achieve much better efficiency with a Volt, and have a nicer car to boot.

You leave out that the Volt is 106 MPGe for 53 miles. This is critical. The 2016 Prius does not surpass the average MPGe of the 2016 Volt until 270 miles, or 67,500 miles driven annually. The Prius has more space, but for those who care about mileage, or performance, the plain HEV has been left behind for plug-ins. The Prius and other HEVs have served history well. We await the 30-35 AER Prius to continue the legacy. Otherwise, this is better than a classic ICE, but your comparison shows just how outdated the HEV is now.

It totally comes down to how long your daily commute is. If my family had a 2016 Prius we could do our daily commutes on 100% electric and have better than the Volt highway mpg when we go for our twice a year 2000km+ drives. Yes if we need 75km a day range the Volt would be better, but we dont drive that much daily. most people dont.

And do not forget, that the Prius provides lot more interior space compared to Volt. Both are good cars. Depends on what people want.

If your family had a 2016 “Plug in Prius” not the hybrid only Prius, that is the point. There are plenty of plug ins to choose from that fits the bill based on your daily commute.

The comparison was made to a HEV as is discussed in the article. There is no scenario inside of 270 miles, which is a ridiculous number, where the king of HEVs, the Prius out performs a plug in.

The HEV Prius is still going to sell like hot cakes as sven noted lower. If you have access to a 110V outlet, the 2016 plug in Prius is going to be superior the same as the top selling plug in Volt will be superior in short commutes as well as long commutes up to 270 miles.

The logic you’ve used is identical to the argument between a BEV (e.g. LEAF) and a PHEV (e.g. Volt). There’s ALWAYS something better within a certain constraint. So what’s the point?

No PHEV is better than BEV, nor HEV better than PHEV, and vice versa. It all depends on what the potential customers needs!

The point being is knowing where the line is. Buying a car because you like it is good enough. Even the above example of driving short commutes combined with 2000 mile trips do not add up as superior MPGe against a vehicle with 42 MPG. In this example, you would have to commute less than 2000 miles annually to surpass the said EREV in MPGe. It’s just math. The Prius plug -in will always be superior to the HEV Prius in MPGe. You may not be able to justify the cost difference but the average MPGe will always be superior. That may not be important but the engineer in me can’t sit on my hands to comments about MPG that is false. Buy it for the space, the brand, the color, the economics, but the MPGe and performance is rarely better.

The mpge figure is misleading. They convert between electricity energy and gasoline as if they can be 100% interchangeable. But in reality, an average power plant burning fossil fuel (as most of the electricity in US comes from) has only ~40% efficiency. Costwise, on average American pays $0.13/kwh, which is equivalent to $4.4/gallon if you use 100% conversion, or $1.8/gallon if you use 40% conversion.

Prius has much better gas mpg than Cmax or Volt. If priced right, it would be a good buy, even with only 20 miles EPA AER.

I drive a C-Max. It’s really nice. I wish it had longer electric range.


The Volt’s range in a C-Max (with the C-Max hybrid’s cargo capacity) would be the best of both worlds.

I’m with you there.

I don’t like how there’s no driver instrument cluster, just the center one. I don’t think I could get used to that.

My Scion xA had the center mounted speedo, etc. and it was very weird for about the first week, and then my wife and I adjusted. Even hopping back and forth between that car and my wife’s Civic wasn’t an issue. It’s much less of a problem than most people assume, and I say that as someone who is VERY picky about interior design and ergonomics of vehicles.

However, the best thing I can say about the Prius dash is that it makes me forget how I feel about the exterior. [shudder]

Toyota Marketing:
“highest MPG without a plug”

Toyota does seem to have a deep aversion against the “plug” to go so far as to in their marketing proudly proclaim this car has no plug.

Well, to be fair, not everyone has access to charging a plug-in vehicle, such as apartment dwellers. So they could still make this claim.

That said, I’m still going to buy a plug-in, because the prius is starting to hit diminishing returns territory for mpg, where they’re spending more and more and getting less mpg to show for it.

A plug-in could easily double or triple the mpg, but Toyota doesn’t seem to think anyone wants them. Never mind that there are hundreds of thousands of them on the road right now.

So Toyota will continue to lead the ‘no plug’ hybrid universe. Looks like a pretty good effort – another solid evolutionary upgrade of the Prius. There is still a huge market for non-plug cars, obviously, and I expect the Prius will continue to lead the way in bringing mild electrification to a mass audience.

If they move to Li-ion, as expected, then it will become a major consumer of automotive Li-ion.

An “evolutionary upgrade” to the Prius is like Kodak coming out with en “evolutionary” new film.

It will be quite a while before BEVs take over the car market the way that digital took over the camera market, so evolutionary improvements in the 95+% of the car market that doesn’t have a plug is nothing to scoff at.

They are finally catching up to the FORD Fusion Energi. It could go 20 Electric miles when the Prius PI could only do 11.
Now I can’t wait to see the stats on the 2016 Fusion PI.
Lithium has increased the range on the Volt, Prius PI and soon every plugin vehicle. Hyundai might be a surprise and beat them all. WHY HAVE A GAS BACK UP?

This car will sell like hotcakes in the northeast, where the high electric prices make it cheaper to drive an hybrid on gasoline than drive a BEV on electricity. That’s with the price of gasoline including federal and state fuel/road-use tax, and electricity having no such federal and state taxes tacked on. There is a also a lack of home charging in metropolitan areas of the northeast and a dearth of public charging options. Solar will not an option for the large number of people living in multiple dwelling units.

I also think people will like the new styling compared to the old styling. The biggest criticism of the old Prius’ styling was that it looked like a wedge of cheese. From the side view of the new Prius, you can see that the hood and windshield are no longer at the same angle, eliminating the wedge-of-cheese profile look.

Hopefully, in a year when the Plug-in Prius is finally released, battery tech will have advanced and prices will have dropped to allow Toyota to put in a larger battery than they would have chosen today, giving the Plug-in Prius 40+ miles of AER.

Is there something like a good looking Toyota ? Where do they get they designers from ? Yoghurt makers ?

What an eye sore. Almost as bad as the Mirai. 🙁 What’s wrong with Toyota? A shame really, since the MPG numbers are great for people who have to drive primarily on gas.

Toyota is losing it. Anti-EV. Ugliest car. Hydrogen.

Yes, it does look like it has been in a couple of wrecks already. The interior is soo cheap. If that is their flagship model, I give them 10 years before they go out of business.

Toyota definitely has jumped the shark. Good bye!

It is terribly ugly, and this is a great news! It will make me want to buy used twice as much! I just hope that the used market wont go up two much!

Thank you Toyota! (And samething for the Volt).

I’m not a fan of all the shiny plastic on the interior. The phone charging pad on the console looks like a giant waste of space. I wonder of Toyota will do what Honda had to do with the 2012 Civic and do the mid model refresh after the first year…..

Article sez: “The Prius PHV engine is Toyota’s 1.8-liter DOHC VVT-i inline four-cylinder gasoline engine, which puts out 105 hp at 5000 rpm. Another 90 hp comes from the electric motor, for a total 145-150 hp of system power (inputs don’t add up directly). Current PHV is equipped with a 60 kW electric motor.” This is a little confused. If you start off with HP measurements of the engine you should quote the current motor output at 80 HP instead of (the equivalent) 60 kW. More importantly, it makes no sense to add the engine output to the (PHV or non-plug MG 2) motor output and then compare that to the total system rated output. Instead, you should be adding the engine output to the minimum of either the motor output or the battery output. In this case, the battery is the limiting factor The current non-plug Prius NiMH battery peaks at 27 kW or 36 HP. The bigger PHV Lithium-ion battery is limited to 38 kW or 51 HP of peak output. If you add the current Prius engine to the current Prius NiMH battery output it equals Totota’s claimed 134 HP. If the new Prius engine is really… Read more »

I’m sure it will do fine. I will not be buying one so my opinion is meaningless. It looks a little weird with the odd triangular upward sweeping shape. The blind spots must be horrible since you can’t see out the back windows.

Well. Good luck Toyota.

I had a 2010 Prius and loved it till I got my Volt. Not sure I would go back to a car that only gets 30 miles of ev range.

I love my 05 Prius & 09 Camry Hybrids but I do wish for a Prius BEV and a PHEV that could do 160km between charges. I know Toyota *can* do it but I’m confused why they choose not to, after all there is ZERO oil production in the Japanese home islands.

Japan has had a few problems with electricity production in the past ..

If: the new Prius gets 55 mpg and 3.5 mi/kwh —- with electricity at 12c/kwh, then:

At $1.89/gallon it’s a break even situation.

/(I paid $1.93 yesterday)

1-in-3 EV drivers offset their electricity with solar which is more environmentally friendly, as well as in many cases reducing the cost another 40%. That price is fixed now for 25+ years. What do you think gas prices will be over even the life of the ICE? More importantly, the use of fossil fuel is still shortening our lives, particularly in densely populated areas. CARB exists specifically for this reason.

A 20+ mile plug in upgrade seems to cost $6,000+ for most any hybrid. We could run through all the numbers, but once you start approaching 60 mpg it becomes very difficult to come up with a monetary scenario that justifies it.

While it doesn’t mean that someone might have personal reasons for the plug (myself included) ,… I think Toyota would have a hard time selling it at any volume.

It goes back to those studies where people will pay to be green, but only so much.

I think the performance enhancements from having “electric NOS” available could do more to sell plug in hybrids than fuel savings. It’s too bad Honda didn’t (hasn’t?) gone that way with the CR-Z. I think it’s a perfect candidate.


now something like the Mitsubishi Outlander (AWD SUV), .. there the plug will pencil out much more easily than on a Prius.

That is why federal and state credits bring the delta closer.

If we ever factored in the monetary cost of health related issues, the balance sheet corrects quite quickly.

In a way, the current credits is as close as we get to paying forward the health related cost.

Don’t get me wrong, as my good friend George S states often, the Prius has done more to lowering our carbon emissions than any other vehicle out there. I have owned a Prius in the past and considered it state-of-the-art at the time. And though the HEV version will still out sell all plug ins combined this year, that balance is slowly shifting toward a superior technology. I am disappointed Toyota is holding back on their 30 mile plug in model. I am sure they have their reasons.

Good that they mentioned about the increase / decrease in dimensions. This should bring in a increase in total volumetric capacity. I just did the simple calculation between the current and new model.

This is just an approximation and not the precise value since bonnet space is excluded.
Gen-3 : 176.4 (Length) * 68.7 (Width) * 58.7 (Height) = 711,366.5 cubic inches
Gen-4 : 178.8 (Length) * 69.3 (Width) * 57.9 (Height) = 717,429.6 cubic inches

and this is an increase of 6063.12 cubic inches which is 0.8% more.

Still no word on battery. I really doubt whether they will use Lithium even in Eco model. They can simply use bigger Nickel battery to capture more regenerative power. After all in the last 6 1/2 years (since Gen-3 went on sale), Nickel battery technology also would have improved a lot with higher energy density.

And there is no mention of Plugin model. Most likely they could have axed that model since they stopped production of PHV by 2015-06-30 itself. If this is true, then the only Toyota car with Lithium battery is the Prius V sold in Japan as a 7 seater van version.

Well, NiMH has basically stood still while lithium has advanced significantly. But, key patents on large-format NiMH batteries have now expired, so its possible there could be improvements. But, I really doubt it: lithium batteries are improving and falling in price quite rapidly, so putting significant resources in NiMH seems like a dead end.

Don’t write off NiMH batteries just yet. BASF says NiMH batteries will have 10 times more energy density than today’s NiMH batteries.

If you really want to know what Toyota (or any company) is thinking …. FTM (Follow The Money)

I have not researched it, but would be very interested in seeing how much Toyota has invested in:

1. Hydrogen
2. Lithium ion
3. Nimh

And at what time frame the investments were made.

Toyota is developing all-solid-state lithium ion batteries concurrently with lithium-air batteries in the time frames listed in this graph.

Toyota is also developing magnesium batteries.

How are they going to name this model, will it have a “Liftback” stamped on it. They need to differentiate this model from Prius V and Prius C. When Gen-3 Prius came, liftback was the only model and there was no need to name it like that.

Ideally they should have spin off Prius as a separate Make and named Liftback, V and C as models under it. Many people confused Liftback Packge V (5) with Prius V.

Fact is the Prius has taken a lot of carbon off the streets. Cut the consumption in half and produce a billion and you succeed.

Produce 5 at zero carbon that no one buys and you have accomplished nothing.

Seems like a fine car; I own a 2014 Volt. The nice thing about the Volt is quicker acceleration, no engine except once every week or two on longer drives, and months between fillups. The the Volt/Leaf only make sense if you have access to an overnight plug. I’ve never owned a Prius, but I’ve always admired them, and expect this new model to do well.

It’s going to sell and the funky looks will grow on you. The major reason I would purchase the 2016 Prius is the great mileage, no charging hassles and it’s a TOYOTA! Taxi companies and fleets love these cars for one reason; they never break down and keep going and going.

I don’t know, some funky looks never get any better. Look no further than the Aztek for proof.

Never say never! The Pontiac Aztek is very popular with millennials. Apparantly, the Breaking Bad TV show has given the Aztek a new cult following.

Maybe millennials will also like the styling of the new Prius. Just sayin’.

Astounding. I guess I wasn’t reckoning on the power of driving it ironically.

But seriously, that thing is uglier than a 2CV, without any of the charm.

I wonder if the ICE run with as much vibration as the last gen. I test drove the plugin version, but the engine had to much vibration it drove me nuts.

Engine vibration/noise and road noise are the biggest problems with my 2cnd gen Prius. Going up mountain that engine noise/vibration gets pretty annoying.

I have out ran all prius with my Volt with my total mileage at 97MPG. There is not any prius out there that can give 40 miles of EV driving at hyway speeds. Why buy this car when Toyota refuses to make anE

Somehow my message was sent before I finished. Why buy this vehicle when Toyota refuses to make a EV. The hybrids were made to fill a time gap so auto manufacturers could develop a EV. Well Tesla has shortened the time gap and has proven EVs are better than gas guzzlers. With the charging network the Tesla EV is the best EV out there. Now all the auto manufacturers are trying to catch up with Tesla. So is OPEC by increasing oil production to cheapen gas prices. That will work for a while. However Elon Musk has said that the EV will outperform gas guzzlers in maintenance. How many articles in the news has there been about shady auto mechanics. Those stories have been nationwide. Time to get away from the gas guzzlers and the shady mechanics and Toyota. Maybe Toyotas FOOL CELL vehicle will be an alternative. However that vehicle looks very complicated and may end up like the Hindenburg.

Hey Dav I have known several Toyota owners that had to have engine replacements right after 100,000 miles. Also what about the so called cant stop acceleration ordeal that Toyota said was caused by carpet mats. That is still happening. Yes Ford had the tire problem but I never buy firestone. The Indy races I have watched and goodyear was the tire on the winner vehicle

Longer, lower, and wider – just the opposite of what I’m looking for in a new car. Well, Toyota’s crossed off my list of new cars to search for.

The rumored ’16 PiP looks slightly less hideous than the regular ’16 Prius…though that is not really saying much.

the car looks great and I’m sure it comes with the usual top notch quality of Toyota. The saddest part for me is that, given the limited EV range and the fact that it arrives more than a year from now, it confirms that Toyota is really not commutied to EVs (or PHEVs).

It sounds more like a joke, from a power house like Toyota that could have lead the EV revolution. Sigh!

@Solar Storm – You may want to rephrase your statement: ” – the usual top notch quality of Toyota”. I purchased a 2007 Prius Touring ( the top-of-the-line for that iteration ) and was astounded at the initial quality flaws on the car I had to take back to the dealer to deal with. These included carpet that was not properly fitted, plastic trim that was uneven and didn’t fit, rear seatbelts that were aschew and “AIRBAG” tags sewed onto the sides of the seats that were crooked. Besides aesthetic boo boos, My Prius is extremely low mileage because we own other cars. Our Prius uses ( not leaks ) a whole lot of oil. The Atkinson Cycle four just uses quarts and quarts of oil, and I am constantly checking it for fear of blowing up the engine! When on PriusChat forums, I found I was not alone. Many Prius owners experience this same issue. This says tolerances of these problem engines are not precise yet they made it through inspection and into customer hands. My Toyota service guy ust says, “it happens”! My 1995 Japanese-built ( Tokyo ) T100 pickup truck is 20 years lold and still my… Read more »

* I must say that those who know new cars are familiar with “dock damage”. This is when a foreign car is picked up from holding lots at the docks where ships have unloaded them, and driven by some pimple-faced teen with a summer job, tires squealed and damage done as they load the cars onto trucks to be distributed to the dealers. My truck was confirmed factory flawed and not repainted by the dealer from dock damage. Note: Dealers are supposed to report dock damage and sell those repaired cars as rentals, demonstrators or used cars. Consumer watch: They don’t. May the buyer beware. Inspect your new car closely BEFORE you drive it off the lot!

Heads up: Many many people shun the Volt as from “GM who makes crappy stuff!”. Don’t make that mistake as it is documented that all carmakers can make crappy stuff. GM has had to change it’s 1980-1990s ways and make product equal to greater in quality than it’s competitors. If not – they will not survive. I think you’ll find that domestic brands now have equal or better fit and finish as their foreign competition. It’s a matter of survival.

**I must reinforce I am not a Toyota-basher or anyone-basher. I am an auto writer and I try as I might to be a neutral observer. I did forget in the above story to remind others of the Prius headlight debacle, of which I was also a receiver. Second generation Prius owners started to discover that if their car had HID headlights, they would fail at about 2 years of use. Message boards and consumer advocate websites began to fill up with Prius owner’s tales of their dealer quoting them over $2,000 to replace their headlights. This all happened simultaneously to the “unintended acceleration” drama that was grabbing headlines nationwide. The Prius headlight debacle ran under the radar. As thousands of Prius owners came forward, Toyota issued a letter to all owners stating that HID headlights needed to be babied as they “heat cycle”. Owners like myself became angered as Toyota seemed to be saying these top-of-the-line headlights were more fragile than regular headlights so not to be used during daylight hours or shut off and then turned back on! My take was that – “Gee, when you go into the supermarket, leave your headlights on out in the parking… Read more »