Mercedes-Benz EQC Electric SUV Is Sold Out

FEB 14 2019 BY MARK KANE 56

Demand for Mercedes-Benz EQC exceeds production capacity.

According to Daimler CEO Dieter Zetsche, the upcoming Mercedes-Benz EQC scheduled for production from mid-2019 is already sold out.

Zetsche didn’t reveal the planned production volume, but demand indicates that the company will not be able to produce enough EQC in 2019 and probably not in 2020 either.

“We are sure that we will not be able to meet the demand in 2019 and probably not by 2020. But we do everything we can to achieve the maximum capacity.”

It’s great to see that Mercedes-Benz customers are going to switch to electric cars and sign up even before the market launch. A similar story reportedly concerns the electric smart too.

2020 Mercedes-Benz EQC 400 4MATIC preliminary specs

  • dual motor (asynchronous), all-wheel drive
  • system output of 300 kW (402 hp) and 564 lb-ft (765 Nm)
  • 0-60 mph in 4.9 seconds (0-100 km/h in 5.1 seconds)
  • top speed of 112 mph (180 km/h)
  • 80 kWh battery (384 cells – two modules with 48 cells and four modules with 72 cells)
  • more than 200 miles (320 km) of all-electric range (prelim est.) or over 280 miles (450 km) under NEDC
  • DC fast charging (CCS Combo) in 40 minutes (110kW, 10%-80%)
  • AC on-board charger – 7.4 kW
  • towing capability – 1,800 kg (3,968 lbs)

Source: Welt via Electrek

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56 Comments on "Mercedes-Benz EQC Electric SUV Is Sold Out"

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(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

Lemme guess, they had on order of 333 of them and sold out?
😛

You bet, IT is one of the teslakillers😁😁

In Norway there are 2417 pre orders, without customers knowing the price.
Normally Norway stands for 0.2% of Mercedes sales. I guess that will be different for the EQx-vehicles. Maybe 5%?

Will they make 25k? 75k? of each model . . How many models apart from the 4 we know about?

Sure, 333.

Marcedes has 8 battery plants (pack assembly) around the world soon:

” “With meanwhile eight battery factories on three continents we are well represented in terms of electromobility in the powertrain production network of Mercedes-Benz Cars. Since 2012 we are producing batteries in Kamenz and have gained valuable knowledge. Our team is working highly motivated on a daily basis and is coping with the increasing quantities while operating the new systems”,”

One of these plants will be in the US:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/06/mercedes-ev-batteries-alabama/

Some EV models to come:

EQC (the first one in the series), EQS, EQA, EQB etc.

per your article link….
“by 2022”

better late than never?

Maybe you forgot to read the other parts. There will be EIGHT battery factories in total, many of them are already finished:

” With the retooling of its domestic plants, Mercedes-Benz will have eight battery factories. Daimler already builds batteries in Kamenz, Germany, and is building further plants in Beijing, Bangkok and Tuscaloosa, Alabama. ”

Until 2022, batteries (and or EVs) will be imported from Germany or other locations.

Ah those short trolls, always so desperate to create a picture of all this massive competition that Tesla will face. Meanwhile it doesn’t look like MB is planning on building all that many of these EQCs and with an EPA range that will probably barely top 200 miles it won’t have to.

wrong!

The list had 444 sold out.

No no they upped production to 1 a week.

Volume production of ~300,000 pa of Model 3 would beg to differ.

Tesla is always failing, in their mind.

Why insert Tesla into this discussion? I thought the germans already have everything needed to make evs in numbers…as we were assured over the years. Is Benz not big enough to be able to handle demand?

Man why the friggen negativity! My gosh you have nothing good to say then don’t. This is an ok thing if they sold out does not matter the initial quantities just means as the article states people are buying them! That’s whatever how many less tailpipes spewing crap into the atmosphere! Geez!

Let me explain the negativity. Traditional automakers have been promising EVs for years, if not decades. But when they finally decide to build EVs, they only build a few. This simply leads to the obvious conclusion that Mercedes and others have no real desire to build EVs that will compete against their gas models. Further, by not building large quantities of EVs, these automakers can continue to claim that EVs are not affordable. But the fact remains that if they actually were intent on selling EVs, and not pretending, the battery costs would be lower. They have NO commitment.

Making a handful of expensive EVs is not going to accomplish the goal of replacing gas cars anytime soon. Mercedes is just kicking can down the road while pretending to make EVs. We already know that $40K to $50K EVs can built in quantity, but the only one willing to do it today is Tesla.

Mercedes is doing a lot in EVs and PHEVs.

In EV Mercedes makes the Smart EQ. They also make the E-Vito van / minibus. Diamler makes the Fuso E-Canter truck. Mercedes is running client test with E-Actros truck. Mercedes also made the electric supercar SLS AMG Electric Drive. And In a few month they will sell the EQC.

Wait, aren’t they pumping out millions of planet killers per year…their marketing is working perfectly if people are satisfied with the token attempts at appearing “GREEN”. Look at us…we’re transforming (at a snails pace).

These people treat Tesla like a religion, so they criticize any other electric cars. They’re not fans of electric cars, just of Tesla and Musk.

They can’t seem to see that electric cars are simply maturing. The luxury brands switching to EVs will create a halo effect. As battery costs continue to fall, then mid-range and budget manufacturers will rapidly switch over. But we are still in the early stages of this process.

Models like the EQC are a very encouraging sign. Demand will outstrip supply for the next few years, and then as charging infrastructure improves, EVs will rapidly become more mainstream (during the 2020s).

Quick name a soon to be released ev, or even those a year away, that isn’t sold out.

And yet the legacy manufacturers ALWAYS plan a suuuuper slow ramp because ‘no one knows if people will buy EVs’. For the love of Pete, if you build a decent EV then people will line up around the block to buy it! Almost EVERY EV but mature products like the Leaf has been supply-constrained!!! I just want to grab some of those fossil-brained auto execs and shake then sometimes!

They will ramp in 2020 because of new EU emission rules.

Base on the InsideEV scorecard, the entire Mercedes line up (C350e, smart, GLC, B250e, and S550e) total sale was just over 3300 for entire 2018.
What do you expect from Mercedes??

Not much. Right now “Das beste oder nichts” is tilting heavily in the direction of nichts. I mean, they’ve got good products in the pipeline and good people working on them, but then they decide to make a homeopathic number of EVs and bring them to market late. Argh.

B….bu……but didn’t Audi and Porsche do a rewind after reverse engineering a Tesla, unofficially acknowledging their inability to meet or exceed their expectations of manufacturing a valid ev at the level and performance of the standard bearer (Tesla)? Does M-B have a genuine esuv?

One of the German premium makers admitted a few months ago that they will have to invest more in EV development than previously planned, because “the competition has made more progress than expected”… (Or something along these lines.)

I don’t remember for sure, but I’m fairly positive it was Daimler.

You are mixing up PPE (the upcoming high-end EV platform shared by Audi and Porsche) with their current EV models and Daimler.

The EQC is by Mercedes / Daimler, NOT part of the VW Group in the first place – and even if it were, none of the current Audi and Porsche models are based on PPE. PPE is an upcoming EV platform.

No, he wasn’t mixing up anything. And he did not confuse Daimler with VW. What are you talking about?

The PPE plattform is far from ready and they will have to change a lot, when they are ready. By the way not one E-Tron sold to a private person till now.

“I don’t remember for sure, but I’m fairly positive it was Daimler.”

He was mixing it up. It wasn’t Daimler.

It is great to see new EVs rolling out.

Looking at the specs I wonder if MB will be trolled to the same extent as the Model S. I just remember all the griping about the S not being suitable for the Autobahn because of it inability to sustain its 155 mph top speed. The 118 mph top speed and roughly 200 mile range under less taxing conditions don’t bode well for super high speed cruising.

The EQC ist definitely not suitable for the Autobahn.

Sure it is. Most people on the Autobahn drive around 140 km/h. At that speed it’ll probably make sense to top up the EQC every 200 km or so, just to keep it in the optimal charging band. A 30 min break every two hours or so is about par for the course with modern EVs.

Except a tesla

Excuse me? A Tesla Model X or S will easily use 250Wh/km at high speed and charge at maybe 100kW (average, if I’m being generous). That means that every 200km (roughly two hours on the highway) the car is going to need 50kWh of energy. Which at 100kW will take about 30 minutes. Show me where your magical sun-shines-out-of-its-ass Tesla gets around that math.

Color me surprised. Yet another dinosaur ICE company that underestimated the demand for EVs. “Nobody wants these things” they claim…

They didn’t exactly claim it’s sold out. They said they are confident demand will outstrip production, so it’s “as it were sold out”…

Maybe they mean pre-orders? I don’t follow Mercedes specifically, but I have not noticed any announcements of US orders/sales.

Looking at the legacy EV production so far it is hard to imagine they will be really competitive until around 2022. Mostly they are relying on established battery manufacturers and those manufacturers need to ramp up their capacity as well. VW has indicated they are doing this, around 2022. BMW has indicated it as well. Now MB have indicated it will reach battery production levels around 2022 (and is that cells or packs relying on someone’s investment in cells?).
Still waiting for the EV revolution to accelerate.

“Mostly they are relying on established battery manufacturers and those manufacturers need to ramp up their capacity as well. ”

Do you know where Tesla will get the battery cells for all the cars to be produced in the Shanghai GF?

From the exact same (Asian) suppliers – read the latest Tesla CC transcript (Elon Musk himself) if you don’t believe me…

So where’s the difference again to “legacy EV production”?

Large car makers have long signed contracts with those Asian cell suppliers (BYD, CATL, LG Chem, Samsung SDI, SK Inno etc.)

The difference is that Tesla had the foresight to order enough batteries for more than about 150 cars. The petrol heads running the legacy manufacturers can’t conceive of anyone wanting an EV, so they plan accordingly.

“…can’t conceive of anyone wanting an EV, so they plan accordingly.

Sure, that’s why Daimler is building EIGHT battery plants as I outlined above?

Tell me why Daimler is spending billions on EVs in the EQ series, retooling their factories and building 8 battery plants around the world then?

First of all, they may have come around in the end, but they were damn slow in doing it. Secondly, it’s not like they’re building eight Gigafactories; most of the “plants” you’re talking about will just be a building or part of a building that’s dedicated to pack assembly. I know the Stuttgart area and I can definitively tell you that Untertürkheim and Sindelfingen have NO space for anything any more significant that that.

I know it‘s „only“ pack assembly – they buy their cells like most car makers from the huge suppliers I listed more.

Now, same question: Where will Tesla get the cells for their Shanghai GF cars?

They used to say they will have them made in-house (by Panasonic etc.), now listen to the latest CC…

Summary: Tesla changed plans – years after the big car makers signed contracts with cell suppliers they are doing the same.

Should say: “they buy their cells like most car makers from the huge suppliers I listed ABOVE”. Namely: BYD, CATL, LG Chem, Samsung SDI, SK Inno etc. As for Tesla, here’s what their CEO had to say in 2019 in the latest CC: Colin Langan And just as a follow-up. You commented that you expect China to be online by the end of the year, but there’s a lot of articles that the battery supplier – you’re looking at different battery suppliers. But, I mean, do you have a battery supplier? Because it seems kind of close to when production is supposed to start. Elon Musk Well, there’s really three things: the cell, the module and the pack. We will be making the module and the pack. So it’s really just a question of cell supply. And we can essentially use any [high density] 2170 chemistry. And we expect to be a combination of cells produced at our Gigafactory in Nevada and cells produced in Japan and cells produced locally in China. And we feel confident to have a sufficient supply to hit the 3,000 units [per week]. https://seekingalpha.com/article/4236911-tesla-inc-tsla-ceo-elon-musk-q4-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript?part=single Essential line: “And we can essentially use any [high density] 2170… Read more »

So…this is basically Mercedes way of saying that this is a low volume compliance car?

Will Daimler deliver more than 10,000 units of the Mercedes Benz EQC in Europe in 2019?

HAHAHA

Did Mercedes really have to illuminate their giant emblem like that? I think one of these vehicles would make me feel like I’m driving a billboard.

Luckily that “feature” is illegal on European roads. Because taste.

That is their new overengineered batterysaving aerodynamic TAXI sign.

We’ll have to wait for pricing, but the stats are not encouraging. Charging is no faster than Tesla, the 0-60 time is no better, and the range isn’t anything to write home about. If you’re going to show up 5-6 yrs late to the game, you should at least have something with better fundamentals like range and performance. Maybe they’ll shock us and it’ll only be $50k in the US or something.

The Taycan is the only real hope coming out of Europe. But who could have known that combining an aerodynamic shape with really fast charging would make a desirable EV? This was impossible to foresee.

Except that no one can afford that car (and it’s ugly too Imho)

Not sure of what to think about this. On the one hand, it is VERY nice to see these companies FINALLY delivering decent EVs (although I still think they have work to do on aerodynamics, efficiency, style, features, etc.).

But on the other hand…sold out? Why? Is it a big money losing compliance car? You didn’t actually secure battery supply because you STILL didn’t think that the EV market was real? You’re still protecting your more profitable ICE cars? What’s the deal?

All of the above.

Mercedes extra designed the EQC (half ice design) to be produced on the same production line with ICE cars because they were not sure how many will be ordered — and now the EQC is kinda sold out for the next 2 years ….

Similar like the E-Kona where demand outstrips production capability of Hyundai (more precise battery contracts placed with LG-Chem) and it’s sold out in Europe.
The VW-Up current model ordering is closed because the production capacity for the rest of the year is already sold out.

Seems the OEM’s believing their own statements that consumers don’t want to buy EV’s when OEM’s were planning the production capacity and battery purchase agreements in 2017-2020.

Mercedes, Audi, Jaguar… they are discovering that people really do want to go electric. The only reason they currently buy ICE vehicles is because there simply aren’t suitble EV equivalents. As soon as those equivalent EVs come to market, people buy them in droves and abandon ICE.

The EV revolution is going to happen quicker than anyone imagines. The thing holding it back is supply, not demand. Companies that are late to the table in meeting that demand are going to lose out in a big way.

This is not positive! Not positive at all… Increase the freaking production!