India Lays Out Grand EV Plan: Chargers At Every Fuel Station

JAN 27 2019 BY MARK KANE 27

Mandatory charging stations at every fuel station?

There are tons of reports about the planned initiatives to promote electrification in India, that yet needs to materialize.

One of the latest is news that all fuel stations in the country would be obligated to install charging stations.

According to Principal Secretary of Transport K.R. Jyothilal, the government plans to introduce a set of actions:

  • Registrations of conventional vehicles to be limited to 10 years. Electric vehicle registration to be unlimited.
  • Gradual switch to electric, CNG and LNG vehicles within 5 years
  • Mandatory charging stations at every fuel station

Well, to be honest, we are very skeptical about the ambitious plans, which sounds even more aggressive than in rich western countries. Hopefully, electrification will begin and smoothly expand as it’s very important from a air quality standpoint.

Source: thehindu.com

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27 Comments on "India Lays Out Grand EV Plan: Chargers At Every Fuel Station"

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i’m not sure gas stations are the correct model for recharging. They are generally unpleasant places to spend more than a few minutes.’ places with more amenities would be better.

India will ever become a superpower by 2030!

Yes Super population by 2030

they are already there.

I think having a charger at every fuel station sounds like a great idea, if they’re all level 3 / DC fast charging. But they would all need to be capable of fast charging in order to make sense and avoid traffic congestion in fueling stations.

I see no reason to think these plans are ambitious just because India isn’t a rich western nation. Encouraging EV purchase and registration will mearly spur the development of affordable EV vehicles.
On a different subject, even level 2 chargers at all service stations in the US would remove anxiety from the equation for all EV drivers. Most of us long time owners have things figured out but for new potential owners I think it would add a level of security.

EV Charging needs a Minimum Goal for any Charging Stop, of 2 + 2! 2 Fast Chargers, backed up by 2 Decent Speed Level 2 supplies.

Not just for Line Ups, but for Equipment Failure – Backup. This is what I call the Bare Minimum, to service BEV’s & PHEV’s, at each location.

Even if there are Spots that are Supercharger Like, with 8-50 DC Fast Chargers, I still think that a number of L2 Charging Spots should equal in number the Quick Chargers there.

This also allows drivers to choose a Slower, L2 charge, if they are not in a rush!

Truck stops? Yes. Those make sense.
But the majority of service stations are in cities. They make little sense.
We really should have simple level 2 chargers in lamp poles and maybe parking meters in the cities.

First India has to determine which fast charging standard it wants to adopt (or go for it’s own standards). Until then, these pronouncements are meaningless.

CCS, obvi.

going with your own standard would be foolish.

They have decided last month to go with all 3 of them 😉
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181226/p2g/00m/0bu/049000c

Though GB/T (Bharat?) may be for low voltage use only.
What a mess.

That they chose type 2 for AC is obvious because India like most of the world (85%) has 3 phase power.

First India needs a reliable nationwide grid where utilities aren’t always on the brink of bankruptcy pleading for more subsidies.

So true. Our development centre in Bangalore routinely looses power and internet.

Maybe India will benefit greatly from vehicle 2 grid chargers.

No, but if they were to start their own lithium battery plants and use stationary levels initially, they could get their costs down rather quickly, and then start building cars.

That would be exactly backwards from the rest of the world, where cost reductions due to high-volume EV battery production enabled affordable stationary batteries.

That’s what micro-grids are for.

Ambitious for sure, but don’t underestimate the possibilities. In some cases developing countries have skipped right over legacy technologies (e.g. landline phones) to current and future technologies. This could well be similar to that in how it plays out

Frequencies that can be used e.g. for mobile phones and WiFi in a reasonable way are a very limited resource, especially because there’re also other services like TV broadcasting, microwaves/home telemetry, weather-radar, satellite connections, etc. Don’t forget disturbances due to fog, trees that have leafs in spring/summer or even from space where you can’t do anything against it. Especially in big houses with very many people there’re often too few frequencies even when only looking at WiFi. So cables for local and long distance communication isn’t a legacy technology. It saves very limited resources, especially within cities!

notting

I used to think so as well — but I’m not so sure any more. In spite of using only narrow band of the frequency spectrum, mobile networks seem to have no trouble servicing everyone. In densely populated areas, you need to deploy smaller cells, which drives costs up — but probably still much cheaper than laying dedicated wires to every single household…

very much true, just visited India, between $1-2/month Jio Internet(own by Reliance) 45 GB 4G LTE data/ month, unlimited calling and texting, amazing price compare to what customer pay in USA.

Are good news I think, but India must stop to burn coal for electricity production. Today, an EV in India emits more CO2 than a petrol car. The bet for EVs must be attached to susteinables and cleans sources of energy, but I like to see how countries that aren’t first world are involved in the EVs development. The planet is the same for all.

Any source for that claim? Almost all studies I have seen conclude that EVs produce less CO2 even in regions with a high percentage of electricity generation from coal.

(Also, they are actually building a lot of solar, probably making it a non-issue by the time EVs reach any meaningful market penetration…)

Indian govt is very incompetent – they keep making grand plans with no means of achieving them. too much talk but no walk…

wow. Such fools.
India is right to push for EVs, but putting chargers at gas stations really shows a foolishness.
Instead, they should focus on either malls, or more likely, any restaurant with enough electricity to make it worth while.
Seriously, restaurants are the best choices they could pick for Level3s, and then I might even pick lamp poles for level 2s.