Hyundai IONIQ Electric Now Available In More States

JAN 15 2019 BY MARK KANE 52

Hyundai hints at expansion of plug-in car availability in the U.S.

Hyundai IONIQ Electric was considered as one of the better all-electric models, especially in terms of its efficiency. Sadly, Hyundai wasn’t producing them enough for the world and in the U.S. sales are highly limited so only 777 were delivered within 22 months. Even the plug-in hybrid version found more sales – 1,590 within 12 months.

According to the latest news, Hyundai intends to expand sales of the IONIQ Electric from California to other CARB states and then maybe to the rest of the country. CarsDirect recently discovered that some new 2019 Hyundai IONIQ Electrics are available for sale in Massachusetts and Maryland.

“Derek Joyce, Senior Manager Product and Advanced Powertrain PR, confirmed Hyundai’s decision to expand the Ioniq Electric to other states in the U.S. “Currently we are shipping to all CARB states for EV and PHEV,” said Joyce. “2018 retail sales were mostly CARB states for both and we plan to continue that trend as we seek more supply to meet demand beyond.”

It would be nice to see both – expansion and more availability. In the near term, we will probably see enough mainstream all-electric cars available nationwide, so the problem of lack of choice and availability in many states will become less important.

List of California’s CARB states (states that have adopted the California emissions standards) includes: Connecticut, Delaware, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Washington, as well as the District of Columbia – Wiki

The market expansion for Hyundai will be driven probably mostly by the Kona Electric, which has the potential for a much bigger splash.

Hyundai IONIQ Electric sales in U.S. – December 2018

Source: carsdirect.com

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So they will split the 50 or so they have in CA with the other states?

LOL. When I was looking to buy IoniqEV 8 months ago, there was only one in all of SoCal.

You are doing it wrong. You need to dress up nicely Bond style, go to the dealer, say the secret password and they will show you the secret stash of evs.

Yep, there are more fuel cell vehicles than the mythical IoniqEV.

Wow!
There are 170 listed on Autotrader as new in LA area….things are getting wild!

Pretty good deal on a lease right now from the manufacturer:
239 (+tax) per month for 36 months with $2,500 (+registration, tax, fees) due at lease signing. You get to be under $250 per month net after all credits in CA….even better if the dealer give you any discount of msrp.

I hope this bodes well for future Kona EV availability in the US. And Kia e-Niro availability in the US.

I hope so too, enough grumbling and they might decide to broaden the distribution. They could sell at least as many as GM does Bolt EVs (probably more).

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Probably bodes more for demand than availability.

The Ioniq PHEV is only $2,000 less than the Prius Prime PHEV. I would pay a bit extra to get the Toyota (and I did).

This article is about the BEV, not the PHEV.

Some of us would pay extra not to get the Prius.

That’s fourteen states. It’s getting more and more likely that we are going to have a national 100% zero emission vehicle mandate for 2040 with 50% mandate for 2030. Big changes coming and with they could come a lot of upheaval.

IIRC, there are 17 states on the lawsuit against the EPA about reneging on the standards. All of them should be rushing to join the CARB ZEV program if they really care.

That’s the Low Emissions Vehicle emissions standards for overall fleet emissions, NOT the ZEV mandate. There are only 10 states with the ZEV mandate: MA, ME, RI, CT, VT, NY, NJ, MD, OR and of course CA.

I really don’t get why CO and WA aren’t joining the ZEV mandate. It would seem very much in line with the electorate’s positions on related issues, and, in WA’s case, given their very high renewable electricity generation %, they’re a natural for EVs.

This is a compliance vehicle by a legacy maker who do not want to make BEVs and who actively lobby for more polluting gas vehicles. Hope people go buy a Model 3 instead.

You realize a Model 3 is twice as expensive right now, right?

The standard range Model 3 is only $5185 more than the IONIQ and the IONIQ is only 0.1% more available than the standard range Model 3.

“The standard range Model 3 … only $5185 more than the IONIQ”?

I think you mean the rainbow farting unicorn hyped at $35K ($36K with dst). In that case, you can buy Ioniq for $19K after subsidies (actually can in CA), but the unicorn may be out long after all subsides are gone. So Tesla rainbow farter is at least $17K more (ie, 90% more) if it ever becomes available. That’s pretty close to double.

Bull!
You are comparing the base trim to Tesla? What?! Compare the top trim which is at $35.3k with the TM3 Mid range wich is only about $12k extra (already discounted the half credit) with x2 the battery and infinite better drive. Lol….why are we even talking about this?

No, I don’t.
The Ionic ev top trim is at $35.3k msrp …and don’t count on getting any discount on it….while the Mid Range is at $47.7 (if you account for the half credit) ….so no, it’s no double.

This kind of arrogance fuels my dislike for Tesla and I’ve got enough to dislike about Tesla without it.

A guy from Texas dislikes Tesla, what else is new 😁

Sorta like Pearl Jam. Awesome band. The only thing wrong with it are Pearl Jam zealot fans which have the opposite of their intended effect.

You wouldn’t say that I’d you could drive one.

Sour grapes?

Tesla can’t supply the entire market. Even Elon Musk says that loudly and often.

Refusing to buy any EV from an auto maker that’s not fully committed to building EVs isn’t the way to persuade them to commit. That’s the way to persuade them to stick with making only gasmobiles until heck freezes over… or they go bankrupt, which is certainly going to happen to some legacy auto makers. Hopefully not Hyundai!

Choosing to buy from companies that have methodologies you agree with is very important and you should respect other right to do the same.

It’s being used for compliance purposes in America, but that’s because all the rest of them are going to markets where demand is higher.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Can’t really gauge demand given that it’s sold as a very low volume compliance car.
More likely they sell few because they can sell it for more elsewhere.

Actually the Model 3 earned a solid 3/5, average, rating from the Consumer Reports reliability survey for 2018, and CR projects average reliability going forward. Very impressive for a brand new design that ramped from low to high volume during that year.

I’d actually expect better reliability from the Model 3 going forward, as Tesla has been working hard to improve the car and the manufacturing process. I predict better than average reliability for the 2019 base Model 3 when it comes out later this year.

So, instead of selling 20 per month, they will now sell 30 per month?

I fear that your figures will not be far off. 🙁 Altho the average was actually ~29 per month last year (U.S. market only)

The thing is, I suspect that altho Hyundai probably will increase the production of the Ioniq Electric by a high percentage this year (altho likely the actual number of units won’t increase by all that much), my guess is that most of that additional supply is going to go to Asian markets.

“Twice nothing is still nothing.” — Cyrano Jones, Classic Star Trek: “The Trouble with Tribbles”

It’s a 50% sale increase….second place after Tesla as %
🙂

AutoTrader is currently listing 212 new Ioniq Electrics. That’s a big improvement from the dozen or so I’m use to seeing but it’s still a couple of thousand short even to complete with Leaf sales. These new numbers do inspire hope that Kona EV numbers won’t be near as constrained as Ioniq Electric numbers were.

There won’t be…because they think FCEVs are the future and EVs are only a mid-term solution. Therefore, they are not wanting to build EVs in bigger numbers.

Market forces usually win out. Nobody is anywhere near making a profitable FCEV right now but the day of the profitable BEV is fast approaching. If Hyundai or any auto manufacturer thinks they can make a profit selling BEVs then they are going to try to make as many as they can sell.

“Nobody is anywhere near making a profitable FCEV right now…”

…and never will, so long as they run on compressed hydrogen!

Are you talking about Hyundai or Toyota? Only one has their head in the sand re: BEVs.

FCEV’s are there so people who aren’t as knowledgeable about EV’s think that there’s still some question as to what will replace the internal combustion engine. That way they’ll take a wait and see stance toward BEV’s and keep buying ICE’s. No one thinks FCEV’s are the future, or at least no one smart enough to design and build a car.

“Hyundai IONIQ Electric Now Available In More States”

After cross-shopping the Model 3, Bolt EV, and Leaf 2.0, I got my Ioniq EV in November in Maryland (CARB state), and brought it to Pennsylvania (non-CARB state). I’m loving it.

With respect to the Model 3, it has normal gauges and controls, better ingress and egress (vital for me at 6’6″), is *far* cheaper, and doesn’t attract the anti-Tesla hate. Plus, other people don’t need lessons on how to drive it.

Have you talked to the local dealers if they’d be willing to touch it if there were any issues? I’m hoping for at least a 39 kWh pack in it this year (64 would be even better), but being in MI I’d have quite a drive to get it looked at if something goes wrong…

At any rate, need more range to start with, hoping the mid range pack would be in the 170-180 mi range and affordable for a commuter!

It went from compliance car to… compliance car. Well done.

Yeah, apparently “improving” from California-only compliance car to multi-CARB State compliance car. Whoopee.

This is about as much as I thought we could hope for. Sad that I’m being proven correct here; I would love to have been wrong! 🙁

Although it’s severely limited for distribution here, it’s selling like crazy in SK and Europe. At one point, it alone had doubled the EV market in SK.

It’s an interesting strategy. There are two things that are obvious. 1. Kia/Hyundai have increased dramatically the production of all their BEVs/PHEVs/HEVs and they are not compliance vehicles. 2. At least for now still demand greater than supply although 2019 should see some relief of that. Given those two items they have chosen to sell in a priority order with Korea being first (shocking!) exactly the same as Tesla of course even though the rabid types here can’t seem to read a map. Second priority is Europe which has not only enough demand to use up the supply but also a better choice for long term reputation. If you look at all the obscure little markets in Europe, Kia and Hyundai are doing very well. These small countries with compact cities serve two purposes as a market. 1. Attack in reverse order from small to large market so fill a vacuum. 2. Distances are less and there should be very little long term threat to marketing a shorter distance EV. The range on the Ioniq was always announced by them as being an interim step. If they threw it out there in the US by prioritizing US sales, it has… Read more »

Glad to see this! With demand for the Ioniq Electric being so very much higher than supply, I’ve considered this a test case to see if gasmobile manufacturers would respond to high demand with more supply.

The question I have is: Just how much higher will the supply be? I’m guessing probably not that much higher (in terms of actual units, not percentages), because most EV makers are very constrained in their short-term ability to increase the supply of battery cells. In two years, a battery maker can respond to increased demand by building out more manufacturing capacity. But in a shorter term, there just isn’t much more battery supply to be found. Demand exceeds supply, and likely will for at least the next decade.

EV makers who want to be able to build as many EVs as they want, will do what Tesla has done, and as one or two other auto makers are now planning on doing: Paying to build battery cell factories whose output they control.

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Not sure why Hyundai would be increasing production of the Ioniq EV. At only about 125 miles of range, is there enough demand for this car? I drive a 93-mile range Kia Soul EV (actually, I get over 100 miles in warm weather), and although I like the body style and cargo capacity of the Ioniq EV, the slight range increase isn’t tempting enough for me to upgrade to the Ioniq. Or, it MIGHT have been tempting, had Kia and Hyundai not already announced the much higher range e-Niro and Kona EV.

A 35% increase in range is substantial, but yeah, 125 mile range is so far below the new standard of 200+ that the car will have to be priced really affordably to sell.

This is or has been almost a ghost car. Highly touted at first, highly anticipated, but a ghost. Or a Unicorn.