100,000-Mile Chevrolet Volt With 99.9% Electric Miles

AUG 24 2016 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 101

100,000 Electric Miles

100,000 Electric Miles

Occasional InsideEVs contributor Ari Colin, who goes by the handle of PLUG1N on Volt stats, has become the second Volt owner to surpass 100,000 electric miles. The first was Erick Belmer (story here).

As Ari posted in the Chevrolet Volt owners group on Facebook:

  • PLUG1N becomes second Volt to reach 100,000 EV miles.
  • Time of ownership: 4 years, 8 months
  • 99.9% EV
  • 139 Gas Miles
  • Gallons of gas used: 17.9
  • $38.89 gas purchased
  • Gal Gas Avoided: 4,344
  • Gas Savings $13,673
  • Net saved: $10,899
  • EMMs: 34
  • FMMs: 5

Yes, you’ve read that right. Ari’s Volt has operated in electric-only mode for 99.9% of its life. That’s an amazing achievement, but it doesn’t come easy.

Ari is very careful to assure that his car used gas as seldom as possible and that’s apparent in the screen readout below.

100,000 Mile Chevrolet Volt

100,000 Mile Chevrolet Volt

We’d like to congratulate Ari for his tremendous achievement and for his dedication to driving electric!

Full VoltStats for PLUG1N here

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Quite an achievement, especially for a Gen-1 Volt. When I had a Gen-1 I had to use gas maybe once every 2 weeks. Now, with my Gen-2 it is more like once every month. In fact, I drove a 95 mile round-trip in my Gen-2 last weekend, charging at the destination and still able to return home fully EV. Considering traffic, I was in the car about 3 hours (hour and a half each direction) and it was really amazing to me that all of that driving could be done without starting the gas engine. The Gen-2 Volt is an amazing car!

OEMs are playing a dangerous game. They stick to the ICE technology counting on their powerful Petro-auto cartel to keep us away from battery electrics because they are afraid to lose the car market to the hands of hightech companies and subcontractors.

BEVs are a lot easier to build and little expertise is needed. The ICE car makers would only be necessary to provide the shell of the cars.

This is why they make a great deal about hybrids(EREV PHEV REx whatever), and market them as “a bridge toward BEVs” (while keeping the AER ridiculously low) hoping to delay the unavoidable abandon of the old ICE technology, and keep on selling this inefficient pollutant complex and fragile technology as long as they can.

P.S. We need no bridge, we were already “on the other side” in 2000. But they killed the first wave and sold eco-enthusiasts Priuses instead..

Sorry.. but you are delusional.

Agreed

Yeah, delusional. But you have to give him points for being consistently delusional.

LOL.

Good one!

Yes, consistency and effort are both admirable.

Huh?
The only mildly delusional part I see is the claim:

“BEVs are a lot easier to build and LITTLE EXPERTISE IS NEEDED”.
O.K. A bit hyperbolic.

What else doesn’t have at least some plausibility?

That hole is their argument is big enough to drive a dump truck through.

IN their argument.

Well I could remind us of all the successful garage conversions of ICE cars to electric drive, or that there were more than a hundred electric car companies in the early 20th century. Take a carriage, hook one of those marvelous electric motor in it, a potentiometer, a strap and some batteries, and there you went!

There were very few ICE car companies in comparison. The problem is not the electric drive, it’s the chemistry of the batteries, that oil companies made sure they never develop until recently. The 20th century saw exponential progress in all technological and scientific sectors, but very very tiny improvements on batteries…

http://www.earlyelectric.com/carcompanies.html

And what to think about this story?

http://evworld.com/article.cfm?storyid=1239

The Ni-Fe batteries were far more efficient than Lead acid.

30-50 years lifespan, rechargeable in 5 hours. Gave more than 100 miles range. No way to fail , right?

http://www.eldensengines.com/Otherstuff/Edison.html

Is calling me delusional a useless personal attack or is it a constructive argumentation to understand the serious topics I brought? πŸ˜‰

Let’s add to my silliness that you and probably MMf have interests in GM if we analyze your comment thread here and there.

But, RexxSee, as you will see in this impressive Leader Board below, US News and World Report Lists the MY2011 Chevy Volt EREV as the Number 1 Upscale Midsized Used Car topping Mercedes Benz, Volvo, BMW and some 58 other models regardless of near 100% All Electric or 100% All GAS/PETROL fuel use!

Amazing accomplishment for GM and Chevrolet!

Link Goes To US News Best Used Upscale Midsized Cars-

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/used/upscale-midsize-cars-1/

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It doen’t prove the good faith of ICE car companies, and it doesn’t contradict my points. It only shows that GM is pushing a hybrid (presumably the best hybrid) a little, just enough to satisfy the most urgent demands and give them some green aura.
It’s still a least worse solution.

Hey, take a look at the market. In 2016 there is ONE purely electric that is affordable sold in significative numbers, but it’s arguably not good looking and has barely enough range for a decent use, and Nissan is presently anti-marketing it to sell less and less of them.

And at $2.30 a gallon he’s saved himself $9,300 in gas, compared to a 25 mile per gallon ICE.

Since electric is cheaper and the electric motor is 90% efficient, he’s saved himself at least $8,000.
The car come close to Paying For Itself as it approaches 300,000 miles.

Whereas an ICE car double’s it’s cost running on gas.

Very good point, and another reason to go without the Infernal Pollution Engine.

What an incredibly misleading title. Of course it’s 99.9% electric miles, it’s the only power the wheels can use. But most of that 100,000 miles comes from the ICE running to generate the electricity the wheel motors need to run the car. What a terribly misleading story…and why, just to sell Volts?

No, it is not misleading. My 139 gas miles occurred in the first few 2 months of ownership. Since May 23, 2012 I have accrued 0 gas miles. Only time my engine runs is every 6 weeks for engine maintenance (built into the Volt’s firmware) and once a year when the gas is stale.

You have a mistaken understanding of how the Volt works

The Volt can be charged up and driven on its battery without having to run the car’s gasoline engine. 99.9% of Ari’s miles were driven on energy from the battery that was provided by charging stations at his home and at destinations.

*facepalm*

But. . . but. . . but. . . it’s a hybrid, not an EV. Not bad for an amphibian, eh RexxSee?

I passed more gas just reading the article than Ari has used driving the Volt.

Yep. I just passed gas too….

So let me get this straight. This Volt carried around an engine and its fuel, not being used for 99.9% of the time? That makes it effectively a 30-40 mile BEV in my book…. Seems like you’d be better off owning a LEAF or some other city BEV. This seems more like a stunt, rather than a practical use of the vehicle’s designed utility…..

and just how would that be any different than packing around a larger battery which seldom gets completely utilized?
This battery obviously meets his needs and the genset is there just in case
What is so wrong with that?
Get your head outta yer #$%^&

Another example is example is having home or renters insurance.
“You mean you had renters insurance for 5 years, but your apartment was never robbed? Seems like a waste of money to me.”

@kdawg

I feel you’re comparing apples to oranges.

a robbery is not something you can avoid whereas plenty of people drive EVs and simply by being careful don’t get stranded (the robbery in your comparison)

You missed the point. A range extender protects you from unintended situations, just like insurance. For example, if you have a last minute/emergency trip/detour, your range extender will protect you. Also the simple fact of knowing it’s there can give peace of mind, just like an insurance policy.

” Kdawg August 24, 2016 at 5:03 pm You missed the point. A range extender protects you from unintended situations, just like insurance. For example, if you have a last minute/emergency trip/detour, your range extender will protect you. Also the simple fact of knowing it’s there can give peace of mind, just like an insurance policy. ” I got that, it wasn’t that complex to see, and obviously there are similarities, evidently, but the dissimilarity is stronger in my view; Namely, in the case of apples one can -with some decent planning, and with some buffer so unexpected detours are covered, with a CAA membership AVOID the mishaps, whereas, in the case of oranges(i.e. insurance) you can install your steel door, alarm system, passcode and have top notch insurance etc and still be robbed and LOOSE that item you cared about from your granny. Regardless of how thoughtful you were. Thus if you’ve picked apples you can avoid with some thought, the mishaps, with insurance you may not, it’s not entirely in your hands if some thieves are determined enough. Also, GM is not exactly the star of reliability πŸ™‚ so your insurance policy may be voidable by some fine… Read more »

I’ll explain it another way. Just because you don’t use something doesn’t make it useless. If it provides you peace of mind, it’s serving its purpose. How many homes have backup generators that they may never use?

On GM-Volt, I don’t recall the name “X”. Did you lurk or post things?

I did not say that it’s useless. I’ve said , that given the subject at hand, your comparison was inadequate, which I still believe.
definitely for people who use more their volt as a gas car it’s not useless, and again your comparison with the backup generator is inadequate, like the insurance one, since no one can be sure that the power would be on 100% of time, while with planning a person can drive 100% EV while having peace of mind always leaving a buffer.

I prefer the word reading rather than lurking. I don’t like to post. “x” or “an x” as I’ve used it other times stands for “a nobody, not an important person”.

I’ve been driving BEVs for 5 years and never found the need to carry around a complete ice system. I think it’s more of a stunt than practical. Range anxiety, for me, is a thing of the past since I traded in my LEAF for my MS….despite where you think my head should be inserted, this article, in my opinion, only points out how to drive around in a 40 mile BEV without using “renter’s insurance”……

What if he likes the looks/ride better in the Volt vs. a Leaf? Why does it matter if he carried around an ICE vs. an extra 8kWh of battery?

It’s a free country. Drive a Volt. Drive a LEAF. Drive a Tesla. This article is about a stunt where a Volt’s ice was rarely used, just relying on its 40 mile range battery. Whatever….

With a larger battery pack, the range would be far better and the cars more compelling, would have sold ten fold more. Less pollution Win-Win!

Maybe he could drive a Leaf…
But… in my opinion, the Volt is much more aesthetically pleasing. Maybe he just wanted to support GM? could be any of a number of reasons.

I won’t support GM ,if given a choice, but yes, definitely Volt is better looking and probably a better car than the Leaf. Seats only 4 which is a non-starter for me though.
The Volt2 is even more tempting but still seats only 4 (decently). I think GM is dragging their feet on purpose. Yeah, maybe ~25k bolts but that’s it

Chevy Bolt seats 5

lol! It only demonstrates another good reason to ditch the useless ICE and boost the range.
…should have been done long ago…

“But. . . but. . . but. . . it’s a hybrid, not an EV.”

Exactly, that’s why real EVs are EV only.

If you think a bit this is an anti-ad; somehow this person driving 99.9% of the time electric is hauling what 300extra kilograms of dead ancient technology- the engine just for the peace of mind – a waste of energy .

if GM would’ve doubled the battery (floor instead of that hump, than no engine would’ve been necessary. But than , how would they justify idled engine factories to UAW?

(btw , if UAW gets into tesla THAT would probably be game over for tesla, at least if they still want to manufacture in NA. Not suddenly but…)

Ari himself is a bit of an amphibian. He could have used gas to go long distances but instead stopped at L2 charging stations and waited it out. Why? Nobody knows. I drive long distances in the Volt and enjoy the 42 mpg “drive anywhere” capability. He drove from Virginia to Pennsylvania for last year’s EV festival on electricity only. Ugh! πŸ™‚ He is a perfect candidate for a BEV, sure – like a Bolt or whatever. He bought an EREV because, well, it was an EV with the most range besides a Tesla that also made sense. Leafs don’t make sense in winter almost anywhere north of Florida. Plus, he may have wanted to support an American car company. I’d love to see what Ari can do with a Bolt. His wife now drives a Gen-2 Volt and does use some gas on occasion – especially their trip around the North East visiting colleges. Keep it up Ari. You are not dragging around any extra weight. Your ability to show that a Volt can be used as an EV today and maybe sold tomorrow to someone who will use it as an EREV or even half and half gas/electric… Read more »

” Why? Nobody knows.”
Maybe to do his little share saving this fragile planet of ours?

Or maybe he likes to see what his car is capable of doing. Some people like to drive fast, Ari likes to see how efficiently he can operate his Volt.

Could not have said it better myself, Ziv.

I am glad I was in the right ballpark with my comment, Ari. I have spent many an afternoon trying to get a steady 6+ miles per kWh, but I am a tyro at learning what my Volt can do.
It is always interesting to test the Volt and see just what it is capable of doing. I used to take my 350Z out and drive at speed, testing the efficiency of the Volt drive train is not the same, but it is related/similar. But I have to admit that my 20’something self would have been, like, “Dude, what are you talking about?! Going fast is always better!” LOL!

And while writing and reading here, we know that hundreds of women have given birth throughout the world who’s children will never drive an EV at all. The problem isn’t what we drive, it is our continuous mega-breeding that is causing a bit of a resource issue.

The real inconvenient truth.

“Here’s a provocative thought: Maybe we should protect our kids by not having them”

“Driving a hybrid, recycling, using energy-efficient appliances, etc. over an 80 year lifetime = metric tons of carbon saved: 488.

Having one fewer child = metric tons of carbon saved: 9,441.”

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/18/479349760/should-we-be-having-kids-in-the-age-of-climate-change

What we drive absolutely is a major part of the problem. The population problem will take decades to address, short of killing people outright. Our consumption problem could be addressed on a much shorter timescale, without killing anybody.

I find it incredibly hypocritical that you imply that a person who has logged 99.9% electric miles of 100,000 is not doing “his little share saving this fragile planet of ours”, when you choose to drive a car that sources 100% of its miles traveled from gasoline energy.

Perhaps you should save your hollow moral grandstanding for someone else.

You misread, I said HE is doing his efforts.

So rather than hauling around a few hundred pounds of ICE that he doesn’t need, you are suggesting he should haul around a few hundred pounds of extra batteries that he doesn’t need.. Makes sense.

Hauling around few hundred pounds on BEV or hybrids with strong regen (ie, Volt) is not bad, because most of the energy is captured via regen. I find regen on SparkEV to be about 75% efficient (some found it 85%).

I find that rolling resistance is about 1% force resistance (1% of 500 lb extra is 5 lb, less than opening the windows at 25 MPH). This loss is almost negligible at typical driving.

But if you have no regen (ie, gas cars), all that energy gets lost. Weak regen (ie, Prius) would also lose energy, though light braking might do almost as well as EV until their puny batteries become full.

Though that extra mass has a substantial impact on acceleration, not to mention handling, tire wear and emergency braking distance. At least it does provide a smoother ride…
And regarding that 7.77 MPG that Ari got by burning 17.9 gallons over 139 gas miles (no doubt due more to the periodic engine ‘exercise’ auto-start). The Pusher Trailer that I used got 20 mpg over the 0.7% of my total i-MiEV miles, and provided serious power for highway passing. πŸ˜‰
http://insideevs.com/explained-mitsubishi-miev-range-extender-story/

I saw plenty of drivers out on the road today. One was in a yellow Hummer 2. By themself. Others were in cars surely bigger than they need. In fact, all drivers I saw driving alone today could have been driving Elio Motors 3-wheeled auto-cycles since they were alone and why where they hauling around that fourth wheel?

Compared to Asian and European drivers driving their micro-cars and 2000 pound little boxes, we are driving 3000-5000 pound “American vehicles” on a basis of millions of drivers per day.

So, what’s the problem with Ari and his engine on-board again?

Well sven this particular accomplishment was only done through the extraordinary efforts of Arito avoid using gas so this doesn’t translate to the 99.99% of Volt owners.

My personal Volt is at 70% electric and it is without a doubt a fantastic compact 4 seater car with a small backseat area.

Now if GM could just go beyond the proof of concept stage and start putting its class-leading VOLTEC into some bigger vehicles and especially into some CUVs/SUVs or god-forbid, pickup trucks they could dominate this segment for the next decade.

Unfortunately, GM seems to have no intention of doing this anytime soon for fear of cannibalizing its lucrative ICE product lines and is therefore squandering its opportunities here.

Between that and a lack of commitment/open hostility to electrification by the vast majority of stealerships/NADA, I fear that the laggard OEMs are ultimately doomed to fail going forward into the next decades.

Ari could have squeezed 200 miles per charge out of a Leif instead, but alas he likes hauling around a dino juice burner πŸ˜‰

Congratulations! Here’s for a 100,000 more! =)

Ari has stated numerous times that the reason he didn’t get a Leaf was because it’s FREAKING UGLY!!!

That is understandable.

To me it’s almost like they struggled to make it that bad. A stock versa hatchback would’ve been ugly but tolerable. And I am still considering a leaf for the right price but, yes is beyond ugly.

Electrifying an Altima would have worked out better. Though, it would have competed with the Coda for “blandest EV on the road”.

x says: “… yes is beyond ugly”.

I must say, I felt the same way before taking the plunge to a Leaf.
But with time and an appreciation for its performance it soon, somehow got better looking to me (only 6 mo. to go on the lease though- what’s next?).

On a similar note, the least attractive girlfriend I ever had was . . . well, let’s not go there.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hauling a useless ICE doesn’t have to be πŸ˜‰

But it isn’t useless. If he had an emergency and was out of EV range, he could use gas.

Being the ex owner of a Leaf I said that before. Maybe “Under used” is more accurate than useless. Since he did use the ICE it was in fact useful.

Well, maybe some people have a bug up their can regarding GM, but I’m willing to give them some slack. People have been clammering for a practical low-cost CUV, and the only thing that fits the bill in the states currently is the FORD energi products and the upcoming GM Bolt – an all BEV – you would think Rexxsee would be happy with that since you can actually drive that one somewhere – like 300 km. Everyone always mentions the ‘useless engine’ but then the engine and gas combo weighs less than 300 miles of batteries would. Besides, Ari’s engine at least is doing something when it is running – namely charging the battery/pushing the car. People who own multiple Teslas invariably have ICE’s in their yard doing routine exercises every week, which, while keeping them healthy, accomplishes absolutely nothing else. The fossil fuel in: to power out efficiency is exactly 0%. Or less than 0 so to speak when you figure the start battery and the jacket heater electric usage. If there is no power failure, then all that effort is essentially wasted. But the things use alot of electricity in cold weather.. That is why utilities love… Read more »

After reading this article, I was curious to see where I rank.

As of right now, I’m #97 in EV miles at 47,173.

Generally, I do 85-95% of my monthly driving in EV mode without even trying. My daily commute is 35 miles round trip, and generally an errand or two in the evening in town.

I use most of my battery every day. And I don’t have to worry about renting a car when I want to take a trip. The Volt has been a great car to own, so good in fact that we bought a second one for my wife! It was the only way to keep her from constantly “borrowing” my car…

http://www.voltstats.net/Stats/Details/3988

That’s very cool, John.
What year is your Volt, total miles, and how long have you had it?
I’m keen to pick up a used ’17 one of these days.

Sorry. I didn’t see the link with all the details.
Never mind:-)

50 miles of EV range on a GenI? Very impressive!

I don’t find it difficult to hold a 50 mile average on my 2012 Gen 1 during the warm months of the year. The 35 mile range seems like a huge underestimate. It would be interesting to see what the entire fleet mileage is?

Maybe you missed my article I wrote that was published here, where I went 81.8 miles on one charge in my 2012 Volt.

http://insideevs.com/far-can-chevrolet-volt-really-go-ev-mode-81-8-miles/

So, someone spent money on a ICE and never used it.
Hybrids are for wussies! Real men embrace range anxiety! πŸ˜€

We had a surprise snow storm here in Atlanta a few years back. Virtually paralyzed the entire city. My usual 45min 19 mile trip took over 5 hours in freezing snow and ice. Proved to be no problem for my 2012 Volt. Can’t say the same, however, for a couple of Leafs pulled over on the side of the road with their windshields covered more than half way with snow. No way to keep them defrosted, the cabin heated, and maintain enough charge for this unexpected occurrence. Thus, tow truck.

So, without denigrating those who’ve chosen to go completely electric I can say that there are benefits to having the Volt’s backup generator.

Additionally:
No need to own another car, with it’s additional maintenance and separate insurance.
No need to rent another car.
Not confined to a set commuting routine.
Not hampered by a sudden change in plans or an emergency.

Perhaps these things will never affect you. But for those who could potentially be affected by them the Volt is a very good choice.

+100

The emergency aspect of things is what made my decision to get a PHEV over a Pure EV…for now…

In the recent past I’ve had a few phone calls in the middle of the night that prompted an unplanned, sometimes several hundred mile journey. Renting a car at 3am for an interstate journey wouldn’t have been much fun…

completely agree. I adore my 2016 Volt. 11,600 miles so far, about 87% electric. For Labor day weekend we will take it on a 1000 mile trip – that will mess up the stats, but it will burn waaayyy less gas than if we take our full size van (~14 mpg). I get the purists desire for perfection, but honestly think it undermines the larger goal of displacing the most petroleum use.

You do have a point, for now.

in few years though , with more and more DC chargers and Superchargers (hopefully gm will do its part too -building some charging infrastructure – other than pay lobbyists to outlaw tesla), better batteries this would be a thing of the past. For now, you are right.

So somebody spent money on auto insurance and never used it.
Insurance is for wussies! Real men embrace DIY repairs!

I kind of feel that it’s a misuse of the Volt. If you’re going through hoops to not use gasoline, why not just get a BEV instead? It’s great that you can use electricity for such a long distance with the Volt but running the gas engine at least a little bit now and then isn’t so bad. After all that’s why it’s there: to support “normal” driving experience instead of having to hunt around for chargers everywhere.

Feel free to ask me any questions.

Why didn’t you get an EV? It’s obvious your commute would work with it.

He got an EV. It’s called a Volt.

He may use the gas engine in the future. The car’s not dead yet. He may drive long distances some day on a virtually NEW engine that is at the ready, just in case. Won’t need to rent a car, won’t need to compromise.

Please folks – it is not an either-or world. Make it an either-and world.

To be quite honest, I never intended to drive the Volt this way. I used some gas my first day driving home to Virginia from Marland. Still stands as the most gas miles I burned, about 40% total.

I blame VoltStats for this. After about a month of driving I realized I could drive without using gasoline, so I wanted to see how far I could go. After a few short misqueues, I have been gas free (for driving) since May 23, 2012. That is over 90,000 consecutive miles.

“Feel free to ask me any questions.”

If the new Bolt is available at the time and you have to redo the decision, would you have bought the Volt over the Bolt?

If you have to repeat the buying decision today, what would you get?

I repeated the buying experience last month when I bought a Gen 2 to go along with my Gen 1. I now have PLUG1N and PLUG2N. My wife does not like the looks of the Bolt, so the Gen 2 Volt it is. Plus we are looking at colleges now for my son and am using the range extender heavily in PLUG2N. PLUG1N will continue to be driven as a BEV wannabe.

If I did have a BEV it would take a lot of the “fun” out of it. I really love the challenge of driving 100% EV, especially winter time when it is a challenge to complete my 38 mi/rt commute 100% EV. (I forgo heat for range, even if it is below 0F).

Any battery/range degradation yet? Erik Belmer said he still gets the same range.

Nope, I am still able to get 50+ miles/charge during the warmer months. I have not noticed any decrease in available kWh for a full charge.

That is cool to hear. I just bought out my 2013’s lease so all of a sudden the long term health of Volt packs is a lot more important to me. LOL!
I have noticed that I am getting 43 on the guessometer rather than 44 but it is way to small a change and too short a time for me to think it is any degradation.
More importantly, my actual miles that I can drive all electric seems to be the same as the first year I got the Volt, so I am pretty bullish on the battery pack expected life.

That’s good news. I’m only at about 35K EV miles out of 40K total, on my 2013. I drive about 10K/year. So based on your results and Erik’s, I feel my battery should be good for a very long time.

Should have purchased an EV. Even with my short commute, in the last 3.5 years, I’ve driven over 27,000 miles without gas (i-MiEV and LEAF). I’ll bet this person could have done the same having only used gas for 139 miles.

Easy to armchair quarterback.

People with multiple Teslas usually have large backup ICE generators for ‘Insurance’.

A volt is at a minimum insurance. Besides having a more efficient heater than a BEV.

By that I mean, when the engine is running, there is absolutely no extra cost to heat the water for the heater, since it is warm already.

Do you know several of these people or perhaps a representative sample to make this conclusion?

I mean I get the point but I don’t know any Tesla owners that have a backup generator. But in some locales, I bet they are nice to have.

The fact is that people who have money are probably more likely to have backup generators. Ok.

Having a backup generator when there hasn’t been a power outage since 2012 would seem a little silly, wouldn’t it? An extreme waste of resources? Isn’t that what Ari has done?

But hey, the Volt is great. Too bad it is such a small car. I’d have one if it was a Malibu. I might have 2.

The founder of InsideEvs had an article about how great his emergency Guardian generator was for his home. I don’t remember the link.

Another topic to bicker about. Are we driving EVs alone or with people other than ourselves in the car? What is going to be important is “people miles per kWh” and “people miles per gallon”. Someone going from one driver only to two in a car for a commute even in an ICE is cutting personal gas usage by 50% each. But since we hardly ever would consider the word “carpool” and instead reach for legislation so that an EV driver gets into the HOV lane all by themselves – why wouldn’t the EV driver commute without a passenger? Whether some form of Co-opted Uber-style slugging or otherwise, getting people-miles per charge is going to be effectively the next-wave of efficiency for anyone wanting to reduce resource usage on the aggregate.

Forgo the automobile completely and ride a bike… Sure, if feasible and safe.

Might I ask…

What would driving a hybrid be like for me?

I drive about 5 miles each direction to work every day and am considering the new Pacifica because I like its capability.

What could I expect as far as recharging, maximum distance, and such?

Thanks

Nobody’s driven the new plug-in Pacifica yet, but my C-Max Energi would eat your commute daily on electric power only. The Pacifica will get lower mileage because it’s bigger, but as I recall it had a similar all-electric range. Your range is higher in the summer, and highest on nice days when you don’t need AC.

Then, I drove from PA to MA on 3/4 of a tank last week, getting 40-45 MPG.

I suffer from gas anxiety too but as a single car owner my volt gets used more like GM designed it to be. During the week I drive mostly electric but if I’m going to travel any distance it is on gas.

I just got back from a week drive around the south east all on gas so it ruins my lifetime milage but I would not have been able to do the trip in any thing other than a model S. I’m thinking of buying a Bolt and keeping the Volt since it is paid for and gives me long range if I need it.

As much as I love the Volt and support the idea of PHEV, I think he might be better off in a BEV with this much of high % usage.

With that said, I can see why.

Back in 2012, there weren’t much choice as far as PEVs are concerned. If you want a sporty car with decent performance and good battery protection, then LEAF doesn’t cut it, neither will I-MiEV and Model S is way out of price range.

eRav 4 is also more expensive.

So, Volt was pretty much a good choice back in 2012. (I drive one too)

What’s the point? It seems to me he put a lot of planning and effort to manage all those trips without using gas. Think of how much juice he wasted hauling around that 4 cyl onboard generator all the time. If he wanted an EV he probably should have bought one in the first place!

An important part I didn’t see was I bet the battery still has it’s full capacity. The battery pack seems to do exceptional in most electric that have battery cooling. EVen is super HOT Arizona where I have owned some great electrics.

Why not buy an all electric car then? :p

Well done, but I’m not sure why you would pay extra to have 2 power trains if you only are going to use the one.