Youxia X Is China’s Tesla Model S Knockoff

JUL 28 2015 BY MARK KANE 64

Youxia X (image: zhuanlan.zhihu.com)

Youxia X (image: zhuanlan.zhihu.com)

Youxia Motors appears from stealth mode in China by unveiling its sort of sweet-looking Youxia X all-electric car.

It’s of course modeled after the Tesla Model S, although according to Chinese media Youxia X is targeted at the Tesla Model 3 area.

Youxia Motors is led by 28-year old Huang Xiuyuan, who gathered around 50 engineers and designers.

Youxia X is planed for production in late 2016 with first deliveries in early 2017.

Expected price will be from 200.000 to 300.000 yuan (including 90.000 yuan green-car subsidy in China). Without deducting subsidy, Youxia X would begin from roughly $48,000 ($32.000 after incentive).

Specification are very similar to the original Tesla Model S – 40, 60 and 85 kWh pack options for 220 km (137 mi), 330 km (205 mi) or 460 km (285 mi) of range.

Motor peak power stands at 348 hp and 440 Nm of torque. 0-100 km/h (0-62 mph) in 5.6 seconds.

And even “Charging of the 85kWh battery takes half an hour on a supercharger for a 270 kilometer range”.

That would definitely be competition to Tesla (like a mirror reflection). If only Youxia Motors will be able to deliver and will get incentives as a Chinese manufacturer, Youxia X could turn int a real thing.

Interior isn’t ready yet, but is very similar to the Tesla Model S:

Youxia X (image: zhuanlan.zhihu.com)

Youxia X (image: zhuanlan.zhihu.com)

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Source: CarNewsChina.com, Autoblog

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64 Comments on "Youxia X Is China’s Tesla Model S Knockoff"

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manbitesgas

Leave it to the Chinese to screw up a design… :oP Hello KITT?

ffbj
Lustuccc

Come on! It’s good looking… it even has chinese eyes! 😉

MDEV

The nosecone is better looking than the Original MS

Koenigsegg

No

James

The renderings make it look like a pretty nice design. It’s size and company logo, combined with the grille say it’s a Tesla “knock-off”, but I contend it’s unique enough to be a car in-and-of-itself. The center screen, graphics and interior design speak Tesla, mainly because of the driver interfaces.

The implementation, in the form of the actual concept car shown in the photos, looks just gross. The huge tires, and the whole feel of a very large, very cumbersome sedan with ghetto-sized tires and supersized wheels off a Lincoln Mk IV. There are no sleek, Jaguar-esque hatchback lines, it’s a hot mess. Add the concept-car gizmo stuff like the LED, “K.I.T.T.” electro-grille and the tiny, not-ready-for-legal-use side mirrors, and this thing looks more like a comic book machine than a serious competitor to anything.

sven

It needs more cowbell.

ffbj

Aren’t they called reverse engineers instead of simply engineers?

Aaron

Nearly 1.4 billion people and not a creative designer among them.
/s

Steven

You don’t need to be an engineer to use a photocopier.

Anon

Clonetastic. Hope they don’t use cheap Chinese Batteries…

RS

This is a prototype, when its ready, if it ever will be, it will use lead acid batteries, have a range of 5miles and made out of old cardboard boxes and shoestrings. I would be more than happy, if such things would ever work, but a 28 year old with, probably, 49 designers and one person who was once janitor at BYD, can’t do something Tesla can’t, or BYD or Nissan or anybody else.

Bill Howland

Starting at $32,000? I can’t complain too much. When can I buy one at Wallmart?

Lustuccc

I hope they will share Superchargers with Tesla. It takes one to show the others the best way to charge on an awesome network.
Other big American/european car makers hurt their own customers by not joining Tesla, only in selfish and useless efforts to make tesla fail.
Wouldn’t be to adopt the best possible standard to recharge all brands?

Nelson

+100 I totally agree.
Think how many more Supercharger Stations could be rolled out with funding from other auto manufacturers.

NPNS! SBF!
Volt#671

Anonymous

They could’ve at least redesigned the ugly front.

bro1999

Well, looks 1000x better than the i3 knockoff at least…

Should have named it the Tuosule.

I wonder if there was any reverse engineering or did they just use Telsa’s patents since they are all open now anyway, right?

Speculawyer

I wouldn’t call it a “knock-off” . . . it is definitely a different car. But they certainly copied a lot from the Model S.

Foo

The Chinese can’t do anything original.

They can’t even come up with a fresh logo… I’m sure they picked “Youxia” because the “Y” could be fashioned to sorta look like the Tesla “T”.

Foo

Ugh, this thing looks like the sad offspring of a Model S mating with a Toyota Mirai.

PVH

Geez..for sure if I was a Chinese billionaire I would just fund this car project to an unlimited extent just to shut up all the scorn I can read in some comments above. I am sorry to have to write this but as a “west” European I am amazed to which extent so many comments in North American EV sites are self (US) centered and so contemptuous on whatever comes from China. Just give them time. Do not forget raccoon was ordinary diet not long ago in most NA. They (the Chinese) actually do fantastically well ( Which maybe explains part of the scorn).

Bob A

Insofar as Chinese companies innovate on their own, I agree with you. When they take another company’s design, and replicate it (granted, it is yet to be seen what the chassis and drive train look like, but they have copied quite a bit about the Model S – even their emblem ‘Y’ is reminiscent of the Tesla ‘T’), that is theft. The outcome will be loss of profits for Tesla and it’s investors, loss of jobs, and damage to the future potential innovation here.

mr. M

Elon wants more EVs, this a good looking cheaper Tesla clone, which will lead to more EVs. So this is what Elon wanted and i dont think that a single other car can lead to the destruction if Tesla as you painted the picture…

Speculawyer

“When they take another company’s design, and replicate it (granted, it is yet to be seen what the chassis and drive train look like, but they have copied quite a bit about the Model S – even their emblem ‘Y’ is reminiscent of the Tesla ‘T’), that is theft.”

“that is theft”? No. They may or may not have have infringed Tesla Intellectual property right. But from just looking at the car, we have no evidence to support that assertion. Everyone copies from from everyone. That is how we progress forward. You take the current state of the art and advance it. I’m sure Tesla copied lots of things from other auto-makers.

This car is clearly different than the Model S. It is not the same exact design. They were clearly inspired by the Model S but there is nothing wrong with that.

PVH

I agree, about the only design aspect I can see that is similar to the Tesla S is the nose cone. For the rest, Model S is way more similar to an Aston Martin or Audi A5 (both models existing before Model S was issued) than this car is similar to the Model S. So, again, the scorn I can read above is unjustified.

Foo

I don’t disagree that they copy well. It is the copying I scorn. It is blatant, and seemingly culturally accepted by the Chinese. But, this behavior will ultimately not work in world ruled by intellectual copyrights.

I mean, you can go to China and visit (what appears) to be an Apple store (right down to the Genius Bar where employees in blue shirts wear badges with Apple logos on them). But, it’s just a slick copy. A store selling (perhaps genuine, perhaps not) Apple products. It is outright theft of brand, and ideas.

This Tesla “knock-off” is just another example of a slick copy, and intellectual theft. Sorry, but no matter how well technically executed it might be, it garners no respect from me.

Speculawyer

Everyone copies. I find it funny that you bring up Apple being copied as if Apple was some saint.

The Macintosh was filled with ideas copied from the XEROX PARC research laboratories.

Steve Jobs was fond of the quote “Good artists copy, great artists steal.” He even stole that quote from Picasso.

We have copyright and patent laws that allow companies to secure, for a limited time, a government sanctioned monopoly on some things. But beyond those protected intellectual property aspects . . . all’s fair in love & war.

Foo

I agree Apple copied. But, it’s not like what XEROX had was a marketed, successful product. AFAIK, it was languishing away in a lab, because XEROX corporate was clueless to its potential. This is far different from a one company knocking-off another company’s ALREADY successful product, right down to imitating the branding.

Pushmi-Pullyu
You seem to think the rampant, wholesale theft of intellectual property and industrial secrets by the Chinese is merely a matter of degree, not kind. Yes, it’s true that American companies practice reverse engineering, and patent rights often have to be enforced in court. But those rights are enforced in court, in the USA and other Western countries, where international copyright and patents are actually respected. Contrariwise, in China, it’s not so much that copyright and patent are not properly enforced, as that Chinese culture simply doesn’t recognize the existence or value of what we call “business ethics”. You’d never see a counterfeit Apple store operating openly in any Western country. The business practices in China amount to “Caveat emptor” on steroids. Chinese businessmen think anything they can get away with, in cheating the customer, is okay. Counterfeit goods are especially rampant in the area of consumer electronics. In fact, the Chinese have become so adept at producing counterfeit electronics that in some cases it has become difficult to tell the difference even with testing equipment. Too bad they can’t, you know, apply that kind of cleverness and innovation to producing their own inventions and products. China produces a large… Read more »
leaf owner

Well said. There is a reason that not even the Chinese buy Chinese cars. Talk to any of them and they will tell you straight up they are total junk (in private of course away from any microphones)

Mister G

As soon as WalMart makes it available in the USA many Americans would buy it and not care about quality..Americans only care about price.

Anon

North Americans appreciate true innovation and originality. True trail blazing in a given industry– is highly respected, in general. But the logical inverse, is that they see blatant (often inferior) copies as merely being derivative efforts that should almost never be rewarded. Unless there is something exceptional / better about the copy… “Better”, being highly subjective, explains why some will complement it, while others will not.

ModernMarvelFan

You can say the same thing about Volt looks like a Civic or Acura.

These days, cars look awefully alike due to “trendy” designs…

So, anyone that comes out with 60kWh/85kWh battery sizes will be considered as “clones” from now?

As far as American and clones go, well American invented the “PC clone” industry that revolutionized the computer world…

Foo

But, you have to admit, this particular “clone” looks an awful lot like a Model S, right down the black plastic nose cone, and pattern of chrome, the shape, even the red brake calipers (Tesla’s signature color). And, to ad insult to injury, the Y logo looks like the Tesla T. At a quick glance, you might say “oh Tesla Model S”, before realizing you’ve been fooled.

ModernMarvelFan

Lexus use to imitate Mercedez styling when it just came out…

So, it is a flattering thing to copy Tesla. Plus, Tesla already said that as long as people are building EVs, feel free to copy it…

Red caliper is NOT unique to Tesla. Many sports car use them…

Sure Chinese produces a lot of counterfeit or copying a lot of stuff from the West. But that is their “normal progression”. I would be worried the day that they stop copying us…

Foo

…and a Volt doesn’t have a logo that looks suspiciously like a Honda “H”.

And, geez, the Youxia “X”? You don’t think this is purposely trying to capitalize on, and be confused with, the Tesla Model X?

Pushmi-Pullyu

Right. They’re trying to capitalize on both the look of the Tesla Model S and the advertising for the Tesla Model X.

Yeah, American auto makers practice copycatting on style, too. But under the skin, the various American auto companies do actually develop their own engineering. They don’t just mindlessly reverse engineer and copy everything the way Chinese manufacturers do.

mr. M

+1

Lustuccc

+1
I am amazed myself sometime when I read some comments here on how everything not made in ‘murica is ugly and bad.

Protectionism at his worst. Maybe some people should take a look at the calendar… Chinese have passed the point of high tech innovation and creativity that Koreans, Taiwanese and Japanese all went through, being at half-enslaved first as cheap labor by “good” american exploitant companies selling crap right here to you good patriots (making a lot of profit with your money for only a hanful of rich c*** s******, externalizing all the pollution), then taking their own destiny in charge and surpassing what is done in the United States of ‘murica.
Even Musk is from Africa!

Stimpy

It’s not at “America = best” it’s “clones are unimaginative, dishonest, and lazy.”

Huge difference!

I’m American and enjoy German cars but when the Chinese clone a car so exactly that the OEM parts fit the clone, that is not inspiring at all. Why don’t they come up with fresh ideas like pretty much every other first world country (NOT just America)?

Anon

+1

We also judge the merits of something by the effort put into it. Most forms of ‘Coattail-ridding’ aren’t considered as genuine effort.

ModernMarvelFan

“Why don’t they come up with fresh ideas like pretty much every other first world country (NOT just America)?”

Didn’t American invented the “PC clone” industry?

In the early days of industrial revolution, Americans cloned many of the “British” industries.. Once American become strong enough, then it started to lead/innovate on its own…

China is just going through its own industrial revolution right now and it will take time. Cloning is the fastest way to catch up.

LusTuCCC

+1

Pushmi-Pullyu

ModernMarvelFan said:

“In the early days of industrial revolution, Americans cloned many of the “British” industries.. Once American become strong enough, then it started to lead/innovate on its own…”

While I agree that in the “wild and woolly” days of the Industrial Revolution, American businessmen and entrepreneurs flagrantly violated what today would be called “intellectual property”, American invention was world-renown from the very beginning. “Yankee ingenuity” was a cliche, for a very good reason! Americans didn’t just copy British and French inventions; they improved upon them.

I’d also like to point out that in the Industrial Revolution era, international copyright and patent rights did not exist.

Now, there certainly is a point to be made here that China is going through its own “wild and woolly” industrial revolution era, so some of its excesses should be excused. But there is no excuse whatsoever for wholesale mindless copying of what Western engineers and inventors have achieved, with no innovation at all on the part of the Chinese.

ModernMarvelFan
Who says there is no improvement? Price is one of the biggest improvement… I don’t defend the poor counterfeiting that Chinese producers do. But in general, if you actually study the Chinese counterfeiting business (which I had to do for various Chinese counterfeit electronic components in our company products), there are many levels of them. Some of them are just poor engineering, some of them are actually decent enough to meet spec, but others can exceed spec but you won’t get nearly as good a “discount price”. The counterfeit goods happens at all price levels… If you ever pay a visit to the Chinese stores in China, you can find a knock offs from few dollars to hundreds of dollars. They come in at different prices point and quality level. The problem is that until Chinese brands can estabilish their own credibility, nobody is willing to pay a premium for their design or products. Without a premium which leads to profit margins there is NO money to be made. That is why you don’t see any “home grown” Chinese technology. Also, Chinese government has poor policy which doesn’t encourage long term investment. It is all about making money quick. So,… Read more »
Pushmi-Pullyu
ModernMarvelFan, thanks for your input. It’s good to hear from someone who actually has experience in the field. My comments about lack of Chinese innovation were, of course, a glittering generality and obviously there are lots of exceptions. It’s not that Chinese innovation is entirely missing, but that it’s shockingly low considering the amount of resources China expends on educating its younger generation in STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering, Math) subjects. In any Western country, such an investment would have a huge reward in scientific and technological innovation. Of course, we must emphasize that this is not due to result of any ethnic or “racial” genetic deficiency, but a problem with the Chinese culture suppressing innovation. You touched on one of the reasons for that, with the lack of support for long-term investing. As I see it, the worst problem with rampant counterfeiting is that it attacks the very characteristic that makes brand names valuable. If you buy, for example, a Coca-Cola or a Pepsi, then you can be pretty sure you know what you’re getting. One Coke Classic tastes exactly like another. Contrariwise, if you buy a store brand or “off brand” soda, you can’t be sure what it’s gonna… Read more »
ModernMarvelFan

What you said are true. It is already happening in China.

That is why Chinese consumers don’t trust their own brands and why the wealthy few would go shop in Hong Kong or Japan for stuff that is still made in China but cost more. They believe the quality control and brand name.

So, it is already Chinese companies. Some see the issue but it will take decades to correct as long as the policy only enourage short term money making over long term investment.

anthony

I like it, actually. The car looks good from the back, they could have improved the front.

Priusmaniac

That shows how personal esthetics can be, since I though the front is much better than the rear.

Mikael

Nice. I hope they will be able to produce it and produce it in large numbers and at that price.

More products and options on the market is great since it leads to more sales in total.

offib

No that screen there, that’s a piss take! At least it’s not insulting in design.

Parrie

From the front it looks like a model S from the side the new Toyota Camry, from the rear a Lexus IS 250. Although not original is does look…..ok

no comment

that front grill looks so much like Tesla’s that i’ve got to suspect that there might be some trademark infringement issues here.

Pushmi-Pullyu

Not unless Tesla trademarked the style of the Tesla nose.

To be fair, copying of new body and trim design styles is practiced by American auto makers quite routinely, and that’s been the case for decades. We don’t, however, see the close copying of interior style seen in the Youxia X, nor do we see auto makers’ logos copied so closely as to constitute trademark violation. At least, I presume Tesla’s “T” logo is trademarked.

Daniel

Just Build the #$%^&ing thing already!

Stimpy

Those of you that think you can get a Chinese Tesla at a third of the price shouldn’t get too excited. The Chinese haven’t figured out a way to clone quality software yet.

Plus the cost will go up to make it safe for the US. And you can’t do things like red-graphics on the front of your car in the US.

no comment

one of the nice things about BEVs is that they simplify international homologation; you’ve still got to deal with the vehicle safety rules, but you don’t have to deal with catalytic converters and emissions rules.

the front grill seems a bit problematic to me; i would think that Tesla would have trademarked that design.

Pushmi-Pullyu

“no comment” said:

“…the front grill seems a bit problematic to me; i would think that Tesla would have trademarked that design.”

If auto makers trademarked the design of their cars, then we’d see a lot less copying than we do, and I don’t mean copying by Chinese auto makers.

ModernMarvelFan

There are and they have… They are just NOT sold in the English world. There are Chinese windows and word processors that are clone or knocked off the English ones…

Pushmi-Pullyu

The computer renders look nice, but lack certain things that will be needed in real life, such as door handles and side mirrors.

And I suspect that the actual car will be similarly lacking in features claimed by this ad. Range equal to a Tesla Model S? Capable of being recharged in only 30 minutes? They’re talking the talk, but let’s see if they can walk the walk. In particular, it seems extremely unlikely any driver will be able to fully charge the car in only 30 minutes, because Tesla Superchargers won’t be available for this car, and where else could you charge a large EV battery pack that rapidly?

skryll

Maybe Musk would just be flattered by the attempt to copy. True fandom and not likely competition.

Nix

Hey, if it leads to more electric cars being sold in China, I don’t give a F***

Let them build, build, build!!