Popular Mechanics Declares Chevrolet Bolt Its Car Of The Year

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MAY 6 2017 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 94

The ever-growing award case for the Chevrolet Bolt expands even more with this newest addition to the showcase.

Chevrolet Bolt

Chevrolet Bolt

Popular Mechanics has declared the Chevrolet Bolt its Car of the Year. The magazine calls 2017 the “year that automation and electric propulsion got affordable and fast,” due largely to the Chevy Bolt.

Popular Mechanics adds:

“On specs alone, the Chevy Bolt looks like the Car of the Year. Without hyperbole, you can say that it fundamentally changes the economics of electric cars. To surpass the Bolt’s 238-mile range, you’d need to spend more than twice as much money for a Tesla Model S 75.”

But range and price alone isn’t enough to secure the win. The fact that the Bolt handles solidly, has loads of interior space, and is fun to drive are other reasons why it was selected as Car of the Year.

As Popular Mechanics states:

“I execute a full-throttle merge that snaps both our heads back, the Bolt’s front tires clawing at the pavement. “I wasn’t expecting all that!”

“All told, we drive for perhaps four or five hours, and by the time I return the car it still shows more than 150 miles of range. No, you can’t jump in and drive across the continent. But for the way most people really use their cars, the Bolt answers their needs while injecting an unexpected dose of fun. As good as it looks on paper, the Bolt is actually better to drive. And that’s why it’s our Car of the Year.”

Other publications such as Motor Trend and Car & Driver agree with this and as such, have previously awarded the Bolt too.

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Miggy

Just a shame that GM can’t or won’t build more than 30,000 per year.

CLIVE

More of shame they are greedy and are pocketing the $7500 and putting people together with crappy deals.

Great ?

Great car.

Bad deals overall

No $7500 baked into leases.

Enjoy the limelight while it lasts.

F150 Brian

So if they planned to build 30K/yr (or whatever number you choose) and they believe they can sell them without great deals, then they’d be stupid not to, since in most countries there is NO direct competition.

Every year battery prices will drop and they can start to add incentives. Incentives might not happen until they max out gov rebates, since the only upcoming comparable in range is the Model 3, which will not get much in the way of gov rebates, hence won’t be in the same price range.

Larry

In Ontario the government rebate is $14,000 and is instant making the price after rebate less than $22,000 US including the fast charge option. The full $14,000 is applied on any lease of 3 years or longer. The down side is the Bolt has been sold out for several months and any orders now are for the 2018 model.

Robb armstrong

It’s a 14000 rebate after tax… Or the equivalent of 12389 before tax. Also, the bolt in Canada starts at around 43000.

Per “It’s a 14000 rebate after tax… Or the equivalent of 12389 before tax. Also, the bolt in Canada starts at around 43000.”

So, Base model = $43,000 plus tax of 13% which = $48,590 minus Ontario Rebate of $14,000 = $34,590 (or so, assuming base model, no options, and not counting: Delivery Freight, PDI, Any Dealer additional Fees, etc.)

Still not TOO bad, I guess.

Now, if only Ontario was actually able to get all 200 of their EVCO (Electric Vehicle Charging in Ontario) announced DC Fast Charging Stations, and 300 Level 2 Charging Stations installed, per their 2016 plan, by March 31, 2017!

The rules required open access by credit card, and no (according to their stated terms) private card swiping plans only! They were allowed, only if a non member could use a normal Credit Card! That has not been fully implemented or corrected, by the participants in the EVCO Program yet.

It is just as well that fewer Bolts have been delivered, as it is taking Politicians some time to figure this all out, and get the players on board, and legal!

PK

Well, when half of the 20$ million went to one Mississauga company that had never implemented a single DCFC you know it wouldn’t happen on schedule.

Robb armstrong

Also, the rebate goes toward the residual value. The lease rates are atrocious. Better to buy in Canada.

CCIE

Couple thoughts:

1. They’re doing a slow rollout to see if they run into issues, so they’re not interested in incentivizing leases. When 2018s are out and the car is truly national we’ll see what happens. If people want the $7500, they can buy the car and claim it. For the people who complain about not having enough income to generate tax liabilities of at least $7500, you probably shouldn’t be stretching your finances to buy this car.

2. GM will probably exhaust they’re 200,000 cars by the end of next year. They may be starting the process of weaning people off the incentives.

georgeS

CCIE,
I think GM will give us some good lease deals. We just need to wait a bit. A few more months like last months sales and it will happen.

At last months sales number they may even have a hard time hitting their little 20k/yr bogey.

Tom

Where do you get off using logic on this forum. The world owes use cheap cars sold at a loss the way God intended. The failure of people to understand that all those lowball leases were money losers for the companies even with carb credits is stunningly dumb.

Taser54

FUD

Spider-Dan

You may recall that GM recently made another EV that won many Car of the Year awards, and had lots of bold predictions for its sales volume. Predictions that failed to be realized.

GM has realized that there is a significant portion of EV advocates that do not want to dance; they just want to be asked to dance.

And so these commenters will drone on endlessly about how desperately EVs are needed to save the planet, then when actually offered a vehicle, they say things like “This car is ugly!” or “This car doesn’t have AWD!” And they keep driving their ICE Forrester or Grand Cherokee instead.

GM has more than enough ability to increase supply. When demand is there, they’ll meet it.

VFanRJ

Totally agree.

Miggy

See this story from a few days ago:
http://insideevs.com/elon-musk-talks-carb-zev-credits/

JIMJFOX

Who really knows? Chevrolet management does; all the rest is speculation. This does not bode well for the M3, whatever spin Tesla puts on it.

Anyway, the regulatory reactions are ALL a$$-backwards- incentives for EV’s is not the answer, rather huge penalties for ICE’s.
Fuel prices in US are ridiculously low compared to R.O.W. Then emissions should be MUCH lower. Then licensing/driving costs raised.

Then we would see EV uptake rise exponentially. Maybe. This is of course illogical in that it takes no account of human nature, for as Bertrand Russell said
“It is said that Man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence to support this”

Texas FFE
We’ve heard a lot about GM not supporting fast charging infrastructure but as I’ve said many times before what GM does and what GM’s says in terms of charging infrastructure are very different things. We read right here on Insideevs.com that GM was requiring all Chevy dealerships that sold and serviced Bolt EVs to install CCS chargers. A local Chevrolet dealer just told me that their CCS charger is on site and is being installed. The Chevrolet.com website allows you to screen for just those dealerships that will sell and service Bolt EVs. If you look at the Chevrolet dealerships that sell and service Bolts on a map you realize those dealerships make a very good charging network. So GM may not be supporting a public charging infrastructure but they sure are developing their own charging infrastructure. One thing about GM is that they have real estate everywhere. Just about every small town has a Chevrolet dealership. Within a year there could be a CCS charging network that rivals the Tesla supercharger network because of all the CCS Chargers at Chevrolet dealerships not to mention all the public CCS chargers and all the chargers being installed under the Volkswagen diesel… Read more »
2EVsCO

This is a great point. People also underestimate faster L2 chargers. The 10kW charger on my RAV4 makes it extremely easy to drive all over metro Denver during one day without ever dipping below 20% with my 10kW home charger and all the public stations.

I cannot wait until more EV trucks are released and utilities start to purchase them. They will need a pretty large network of their own chargers for maintenance fleets etc. I may have my own private network sooner than later to enjoy. I work for a large G&T and we still only have 10 L2 chargers across our multi state territory. Just waiting for more adoption and we can start putting them in left and right. We operate 115kV to 345kV lines and substations so these DC chargers will be child’s play to get installed and operating.

Bill Howland

Yup, just figure out who is going to pay for it. Child’s play? Better run that past the ‘Green Eyeshade Guys’ first.

The only “Cheap” 115 kv and 345 kv facilities I’ve seen have been the so called ABB ‘Micro substations’ offered in sizes of 25-225 kva, (Only 1 leg is used), but get their cost reduction by being only able to run from Y-Connected transmission towers. And not even all Y transmission lines can be used as they must have relatively low resistance grounding (the facility that limits fault currents).

But you still can’t buy one for $49.95. They aren’t THAT cheap.

2EVsCO
Sorry I think my point was lost in my lazy writing and poor choice of phrasing. I was implying that those utilities who design, install and operate high voltage transmission and generation facilities will have no problem getting infrastructure on the transmission and distribution side ready for DCFC on a mass scale. They already have the technical and construction expertise as well as well established supply chains and even the mass billing infrastructure to handle a high volume of charger traffic. I have little faith that third parties will really be able to handle this when 90+% of all road vehicles are electric with batteries (assuming that happens in the next 35 to 40 year which is still well within my career timeline). Not only will they not be able to handle it, utilities are going to play a huge part in the real roll out of mass charging facilities with proper planning and siting such facilities etc. I should also mention that I think electric coops will play a larger role in this than most people realize due to their rural roots and locations. The first electric revolution was rounded out by the REA by completing the grid and… Read more »
Pushmi-Pullyu
“…those utilities who design, install and operate high voltage transmission and generation facilities will have no problem getting infrastructure on the transmission and distribution side ready for DCFC on a mass scale. They already have the technical and construction expertise as well as well established supply chains and even the mass billing infrastructure to handle a high volume of charger traffic.” Well said, thank you! I think it may indeed be a better strategy to try to persuade electric utilities to install public EV fast chargers, than to expect third-party entrepreneurs to try to start a for-profit business doing that. Or alternatively, for third parties to partner with the electric utilities. The electricity sellers already do most of the type of work, on a routine basis, which would need to be done for installing the infrastructure, and setting up a pay-for-use public charger will get them additional revenue by selling electricity. The problem, I think, is going to be in areas where the utilities are so over-regulated that they aren’t allowed to expand into new areas of making money, or regulations which otherwise would restrict any profits they might make selling electricity at EV fast charge stations. One thing is… Read more »
Four Electrics

I think it is a little more nuanced. A single 350 kW fast charger draws as much power as 350 homes. In most environments more than a one of these will be problematic to install. The burst load is just too insane.

2EVsCO
This is not a technical issue really IMO. There are more than enough current technologies to handle near instant load and generation shifts. That is why an interconnected grid is absolutely necessary and a great achievement for mankind. Moving forward I think the Tesla company is very short sited in assuming that everyone’s house will have PV panels and a battery and microgrids taking over. There is a reason for a massive synced machine like the grid and that is to smooth out large bumps. With proper data and models, utilities will have just have to learn to schedule power flow for these large charging areas. I am guessing that with mass adoption of EVs, the area control equations for balancing authorities will actually become more stable due to consistent use of the grid at high loads. Now if we could just get the real Tesla’s vision of worldwide power without wires to be a reality, this would all be overall easier, but that is a whole other ball of wax to try and make sense of. I am sure there are plenty of people who will call me a poser or hack for even bringing up our great friend… Read more »
Bill Howland
Sorry to have to keep repeating myself, But I’ve read all your words. Perhaps you don’t care who pays for things. But SOMEONE has to fork over the dough to make stuff happen. I was merely suggesting that reduced-cost facilities are available, but these STILL may be deemed too expensive for the desired result. In my area at least, I’m not expecting any huge expansion of the fast charging situation anytime soon. There is a local Tesla Supercharger, which may be utilized a bit more if the Model 3 maintains the same 115-120 KW charging rate of the 100 kwh S’s and X’s – but here even Musk says that’s ultimately unlikely, presumably that it is easier to get a 100 kwh battery pack to take 115 kw than it is to get a 50-55 kwh pack to do the same, at least with current batteries and cost-reduced electronics. As far as criticizing GM for not making enough BOLTs, I bought mine in NY State in February. All the dealers selling BOLTs around here (most of the larger Chevrolet dealers are) have between 8 and 15 BOLTs available for sale TODAY. I did my part. Any one else who wants… Read more »
Bill Howland

Oh, and if you’re reading this LOU, here’s an interesting factoid. I finally ran my BOLT ev down to zero. The center screen goes from ‘Battery Power’ to ‘Power Off’, and then the driver’s display after 3 seconds says:

“Out of Energy! Recharge Now!”.

Since I don’t have a wattmeter dedicated to charging at home I recharged at a local DuraStation (around 210 volts, 30 amperes) and it was

67.77 kwh
11.22 hours.

Lou

Bill:

Not the same LOU, but nevertheless, I am curious why you ran it down to zero? Just to see charging times while completely empty?

Bill Howland
Lou I wanted to see “where on E the gas gauge is when it actually runs out of gas”, so to speak. At the point it ended I THOUGHT I had a few miles left. The other disconcerting thing is it puts the parking pawl on so the car CANNOT BE PUSHED over to the charging cord. THAT WAS THE BIG SURPRISE. I’ll have to see if there is a work around, but I doubt it. My Roadster was an improvement over the Bolt in that it had an ‘analog gas gauge’, and then later software releases told you, you had about a mile left. The Bolt just suddenly stops which is disappointing. The roadster could also be placed in Neutral with the battery dead, which I did find out once and had to push it to a nearby 110 volt outlet. The only work around I see to this unpleasant situation is to take a 1000 watt inverter on the fully charged 12 volt battery, and charge the high voltage battery a bit off of it, knowing that the dc/dc converter will IMMEDIATELY try to quickly recharge the 12 volt battery – so at that point it becomes a… Read more »
Lou

Thanks Bill. Have fun with doing that! Hah…

CCIE

GM could easily roll a national DCFC network using dealer sites. Instead they’re only requiring Bolt certified dealers to purchase 25kw DCFC units for service use.

Those chargers will be installed in the service bay and not for normal use by customers. They might help you out in an emergency, but that’s it.

Texas FFE

The GM dealerships that have EV chargers have always been happy to let GM vehicle owners charge their vehicles. I doubt that will change. They even let an occasional Ford charge at Chevy dealerships.

jim stack

I read GM and EVGO made a deal for Lyft-Maven to get 1 hr DC Fast charges free. If that could be for all BOLTS they could have some big sales numbers.
Until them Tesla Model 3 will be the big seller. It has Super Chargers with 1,000 miles free, then just the local price of electricity. Also destination chargers and all other networks they have cards for.

CCIE

I can’t see them letting any vehicle take up space inside the service area to charge unless it’s an emergency and they’re in a good mood. The DCFC units they’re buying are intended for testing/troubleshooting when a Bolt has an issue.

Texas FFE

I think you are totally wrong. The CCS chargers are needed to keep the Bolts charged so that they can be test driven so the Chargers are not going to be hidden in the back of the service department. Anything that gets GM owners into the dealerships, even if they are just driving through on a cross country trip, is a good thing.

I’ve never had the dealerships complain about me charging there as long as I had the right kind of car. I’ve had the chargers ICEd at dealerships before and the dealerships were happy to find the vehicle operator to get them to move the vehicle. I’m really beginning to question whether you’ve ever driven an EV or are just trolling.

CCIE

I guess we’ll know soon. I really hope you’re right.

james

And I’ll chime in as a Ford owner… I’ve charged occasionally at Nissan chargers at their dealers and the odd BMW. EVERYTIME I’ve asked, they’ve all said yes. I heard people turned away, but I’ve yet to.

For Ford dealers, they were required to have two L2 chargers, one in service, one with public access (during business hours).

John Ray

Back when my Nissan dealer actually owned their DCQC they would even turn away other Nissans if they weren’t purchased there. They eventually sold out to EVGo.

unlucky

I don’t really agree. There should be a network of DCFC chargers down I-5 in California. There are no car dealers on I-5 (except in Sacramento).

Besides, dealers have little incentive to keep their chargers working and not ICEd.

CCIE

I didn’t say it would be a well placed charging network, just that it would be national. Irrelevant anyway since they’re not going to do it.

Scott Franco

Which is why the 99 in California has CCS chargers and I-5 does not, the 99 threads up towns and I-5 does not. It will get fixed by the independents, but right now, I don’t think the bolt exists in sufficient numbers to justify I-5 charging (the Bolt being the only CCS car that can do long distance). I note that CHADEMO got I-5 coverage after years of not having it, so that is a positive sign. Why any company outside Nissan would install a Chademo without a CCS is beyond me. I am going to chalk it up to a basic human factor (stupidity), since (using plugshare), it is basically hotels that host the I-5 Chademos.

Roy_H

As I remember it, the dealers who chose to sell Volts were required to have 2 chargers, one for service and one for public use.

Scott Franco

Not true. Capitol Chevy in San Jose has a new 25kW charger. They were happy to let me use it. They had to unplug a car to do it, but with a line of EVs that need charging, they are always going to have cars on charge.

Texas FFE

I just test drove a Bolt EV for the first time today and it was awesome!!! I expected the bold EV to be nice but it was a lot better than I expected. It was the little things that got me like the regen paddle kicking off the cruise control and the cruise control set speed showing up on the speedometer.

I have complained about the Bolt EV not having adaptive cruise control but I found out about a feature that makes the Bolt act like it very much has adaptive cruise control. I found out that the front vehicle detection system kicks off the cruise control if you get too close to the car in front of you. I didn’t get a chance to test it but that system should prevent you from having a wreck if you get distracted in the car in front of you slows down while you’re on cruise control.

I’m willing to wait until the Bolt is available in my state and some of the dealership price gouging subside but I’m definitely looking forward to getting my new Bolt EV.

2EVsCO

My 2014 volt has the front collision detection and operates this way as well. Very useful except when there are large dips or high separation barriers on the hwy. IT picks up the hill Or barrier sometimes and kicks off the cruise and with Regen (I keep my volt always in Like while driving) you get 60kW of regen braking so it can startle you.

georgeS

@2EVs
I had a 2012 Volt for 3 years and really liked the car. As an engineer I wrote a lot of articles on the car but they were mostly tech articles.

GM engineering is tops but GM management is….
mostly a disappointment.

Bottom line is they only make Ev’s because the government makes them.

They could have put the BoltEV power train in a killer body and sold the heck out of it.

but they didn’t because they don’t want to.

“I wrote a lot of articles on the car”

Where did you publish them?

georgeS

and get one you should Texas FFE. We need to get you out of that Ford:)

One more person driving electric. I bet I’d like it also if I drove one.

WadeTyhon

Really? Me too! (Electric Avenue…?) literally just left the dealer.

We loved the car. Guys were very knowlegable about the Bolt. We also discussed my Spark EV a bit, they knew a surprisingly large amount about the car considering they dont even sell it in Texas!

L mode + regen pedal were way more powerful than my Spark. A+

The surround view, lane keep and blind side monitoring were great even though my fiance was dissapointed about no ACC. Oh well its my car not hers so she will live lol.

Wasnt as crazy about the rearview mirror cam as I had hoped. But I did find it useful when backing out of a parking spot between 2 other cars. Much better image than the usual backup camera.

Seats I found firm but comfortable. I only had about 20 minutes behind the wheel though. Seating hight and visibility were fantastic. The car feels so open! The safety features might be overkill since there really isnt much of a blind spot.

Overall, loved it. Putting down a deposit by the end of next week. Can’t wait!

fotomoto

I won’t buy w/o ACC. Ridiculous that it isn’t offered even as an option in 2017.

Texas FFE

I feel the same way but, the way the forward collision alert system and the low-speed automatic braking couple with the cruise control, the Bolt has borderline ACC. Maybe when the 2018 models come out in September they will have full-blown ACC. I probably won’t buy a Bolt until at least September anyway.

WadeTyhon

It’s disappointing but not a deal breaker for me. Personally I think it’s because the Bolt will be one of the next cars with Supercruise…. but that wasn’t ready in time for the Bolt launch…. just speculation tho!

CLIVE

That is the same way I felt until I ran the numbers.

Great test drive, otherwise a complete waste of time.

Texas FFE

GM is offering a $350 a month lease deal. That should be low enough for most people to swing. If that’s too stiff you can still wait and pick up a good low mileage off lease deal in a couple of years.

I never planned to keep my FFE more than a couple years because of its limitations and because I thought they would be coming out with something much better soon. But the Bolt EV addresses most of the shortcomings that I saw in the 2013 FFE. When I get a Bolt I’m planning to keep it for at least 10 years so it’s a lot easier to justify the price.

georgeS

I’d b*tch about GM management now but I don’t feel like it:)

2EVsCO

Which level of management? I haven’t had to deal with anything GM since I bought my volt used. I have put 18k worry free miles on it, 85% EV.

Alltesla

Don’t Care, fugly.

Nothing but Tesla

Texas FFE

I feel the same way about Tesla.

Maybe you would consider the 2018 IONIQ EV, then, with its promised 200 miles range?

Texas FFE

I saw an Ioniq at the car show last March and I wasn’t very impressed, it had skinny tires and looked kind a cheap. I think the Ioniq will do well because I always underestimate Hyundai sales performance. But Hyundai is going to have to really step up if they want me to buy an Ioniq.

Tom

The hybrid version of the ioniq and the Niro are killing it. No reason to expect differently with the phev and bev versions

jahav

It has a lot of awards, but sales seems rather poor so far.

I wish they would focus on Europe,
but that probably won’t happen because of Opel sale – the mass EV adoption will start there because of gas prices an sufficient wealth. Also hatchback are reasonably popular.

unlucky

Biggest selling BEV in the US in April. Sales aren’t THAT poor.

instant tq

as long as Bolt is labeled a compliance car, now expecting higher specs for tesla model 3 than compliance requires. Don’t screw up, Elon

Bolt fan GM skeptic

What makes it a compliance car is the lack of commitment to building a nationwide charging network. GM has at best committed to requiring GM dealerships that sell the Bolt to install fast chargers. But the joke is on the car buyers.

Try this. Drive whatever car you want on a Sunday from Chicago to Indianapolis and back. Plan your trip around those dealers you know sell Bolts. When you get to the first one and find the lot locked because the dealership is closed on Sunday, find a hotel and call in sick to work on Monday.

Taser54

Garbage. You people keep redefining compliance into absurdity. What is a compliance car complying with? The Carb ZEV mandate and only at the barest minimum of the requirements. A nationwide charging network has nothing to do with CARB mandates. CaRB does no require it,

So quit veering of into the wacko dimension just because you dislike a manufacturer.

Bolt fan GM skeptic
So you think the dealer based charger network makes the Bolt capable of taking it on the road? Try to focus on what’s being said, not on your bias for one manufacturer. If GM would commit to creating or supporting the creation of a charger network, I’d consider buying a Bolt to be a second for our Model S. But I just can’t do it because if we need to take it on the road we can’t. I take our S all over. It’s been to nine states made possible by our use of over 20 different superchargers. I’ve considered using the car to go to Arizona from Chicago. When our second car is ready to be replaced we’ll look at used Model S, the Model 3 or any other cat that by then is road capable. The Bolt may eventually be that car. Today it isn’t. That’s just a fact. Of course there will be some EV warriors who take long road trips cobbled together by stops at level 2 chargers and camp sites. I prefer a car from a company that understands how the rest of us would want to travel.
2EVsCO

Yea me too I usually choose an airline when my job depends on it…

Bolt fan GM skeptic

Of course. But when traveling to see relatives who don’t live by a major city airport, driving is the better choice. The Arizona trip would just be an opportunity to enjoy time in the car. The planned charger buildout will need to be finished in parts to make the trip easier.

ModernMarvelFan

Tesla and Nissan LEAF’s DCFC coverage was sucky at best back in 2012 and 2013. Nobody complained that they were compliance cars.

The so called bars have been set higher just because it is GM?

Just admit it that plenty of EV buyers hate GM for some reasons and it doesn’t matter how good the car is, they will always find an excuse to pick something wrong with it so they won’t buy it.

At the end of the day, GM knows it so the 25k/year goal was appropriately set.

Volt

Another award paid for!

The Dolt gets the “upmost” praise but yet has such low sales…. I wonder why….paid for!

CCIE

I have nothing against Tesla. For the future of EVs I hope they can can get the M3 out on time, on price, and with good reliability. Unforunetly, based on their track record, all three are far from guaranteed.

I also think that if GM or another real car maker ever decides they want to kill Tesla, it won’t take that much effort. They could easily afford to create an attractive EV and sell it at a massive loss to take market share. Tesla couldn’t afford to compete in that kind of war for long.

The Soviet Union didn’t lose the Cold War because communism sucked. They lost it because the US out-spent them on defense and they went broke trying to keep up.

Pushmi-Pullyu

That’s like blaming the wind storm that knocked down your house, ignoring the fact that termites had eaten away all the structural timbers.

There were many causes of the Soviet economic collapse, but perhaps the most important was the basic dysfunctionality — not merely inefficiency — of the transportation and distribution system. Western observers could not believe that so much of the food grown in the Soviet Union was wasted simply because it never got to market before it spoiled.

They couldn’t believe such massive waste would be allowed to happen, but it was true.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1990-12-02/news/1990336114_1_soviet-union-soviet-economy-milk-production

CCIE

My point was that Tesla lives in that same unstable house. One swift kick from one or two of the big boys and it would come down.

Again, I’m hopeful the M3 succeeds and their business becomes sustainable without relying on additional capital injections.

There’s an old article from Soviet economist study that showed the reason for the waste was because each bureaucrat didn’t want to look bad. If transportation sector didn’t deliver, they blamed it on others (ie, food production). Since it was gov’t run, they could never go out of business, and the blame game continued with constant shortages and waste until the entire system doomed.

Trip to the local DMV is a painful reminder why gov’t run anything degenerate into long lines and poor service. I’m sure they blame someone else for their failures (eg. we need more funding!)

ModernMarvelFan

“Trip to the local DMV ”

Most of my states services can be done online.

For those tasks that needed attention, make an appointment and walk right in.

That is experience that I had with both Blue and Red states.

DMV services are slow often because the customers that they deal with in person are often some of the DUMBEST people on the planet!

Taser54

You have zero evidence to support your assertion. It makes you look silly. Dial it back.

Bolt fan GM skeptic

The car is an accomplishment. Hitting 200+ miles range around the average cost of a new vehicle gives them first mover bragging rights. If the Bolt were a Tesla product with access to the superchargers and destination chargers, what would you think of it?

To me that’s the main flaw in the Bolt as a product.

Once again we are sold a bill of goods,people are such suckers,wait and see how many people quickly turn around and sell them,untested,tiny American made car…enough said.

Bolt fan GM skeptic

Nissan was the company that sold batteries that lost range rapidly. If the Bolt can perform as designed it will serve a niche. If GM puts on their big boy pants and builds a functioning DC fast charging network, the Bolt will expand its market.

Martin T.

True running cots is where it is at, what is the point having minuscule energy costs – when the true killer of EV and Hybrids kicks in at trade in time.
This is called depreciation.

People have no understanding of battery life and panic.
In Australia the true cost of owning a 1st Gen volt is worse than owning a huge SUV.
In the USA you people are lucky with the government hand out, here we are screwed.

Hence it will be interesting to see the depreciation so total ownership cost can be calculated, many may be shocked!

Hence there is no RHD Bolt planned for Australia after the financial fiasco in Australia with the 1st gen Volt.

Lets hope Tesla and others can slowly re calibrate Australians after GM made an utter hash of it.

Longvsshort

Best of luck to the little Bolt but it will require three things: 1. Discounts. 2. Advertisement. 3. Inventory.
Top selling ICE models can reach 300K sales per year in the US alone. With current pace of 30K/Y that’s a tenfold increase potential for the Bolt.

Pushmi-Pullyu

4. Dealerships which actually want to sell the car, instead of trying to divert potential customers to a gasmobile or the Volt.

Someone out there

If they redirect customers to a Volt it’s still a win both for GM and for the environment

vdiv

At the two dealerships that I inquired about the Bolt EV with a couple of friends they were very accommodating and patient with us. Had the Bolt EV displayed prominently both in the showroom and upfront on the lot. The sales people knew largely what they were talking about without much hyperbole. It seems to me that the story is different than what happened with the Volt over 5 years ago. While I was impressed seeing the Bolt EV in person many people just can’t get pass the looks, the size, and the pricing — all factors determined by GM, not the dealers.

Texas FFE

I think the attitude of dealerships that will be selling and servicing the Bolt EV is different. GM is requiring a major commitment by dealerships that sell the Bolt including the purchase of a $14,000 CCS charger. GM allowed a lot of dealerships to opt out of selling the Bolt so the ones that do I think we’re going to be a lot more serious about selling EV’s.

Just remember to check Chevrolet.com to see if the dealer sells and services the Bolt EV.

Warren

Stating the obvious: EVs, with comparable range, cannot be as cheap or as light, as an ICE. Few people care about the technology, or the environment enough to go even deeper in debt to pay the difference. Only when the ICE is forced off the market by stricter efficiency, and pollution regulations, which make them comparably priced, will people buy EVs. I doubt there will be much of a market left for private cars at that point. And good riddance!

super390

I haven’t seen any Bolt advertising here yet, so I don’t know whether it is being marketed as a “car” or a “crossover” or “CUV”. We might call it any of those, but for the uninitiated public the terminology is important.

Right now, crossovers are hot. If the public can be made to perceive the Bolt as a crossover, it can sell at a premium. It would have cost GM very little money and the Bolt very little range to raise the ride height a little and maybe even create a token 4WD version with an extra motor in the back. Crossover buyers don’t actually want or need 4WD, but the symbolism of its availability seems strangely important.

Mind you, I wouldn’t be caught dead in a crossover. It’s just the consequence of how the public has been indoctrinated by the Big 3’s agenda to sell SUVs that it can build off its truck chassis with huge markups. For 80 years we’ve been trained to buy longer, lower, wider, and now we’re being trained to go back to the automotive proportions of the 1920s. Should we have been driving Model Ts the whole time?

james

Why advertise? Like Tesla they are still constrained. Maybe when it is national, they SHOULD, but we’ll have to see they do.

David

This car is special! And Texas FFE and Wade, I’m digging your mini reviews on here. Thanks.

Bolt fan GM skeptic

I agree the car is special. Unfortunately, GM produced it. So it’s on a short leash.

WadeTyhon

You bet! It’s definitely a special car. Do you have one? If not, take it for a test drive when you get the chance.

carl

Pas mal plus intéressant qu’une tesla !

Scott Franco

The Bolt is a good car, and perhaps more interesting (as the article points out) as an alternative to the 60kWh Tesla model S. Its way less money. The M3 is another, but it is not shipping.

The BEV market moves on lack of user education. There is a pretty good market in new Leafs in Silicon Valley but why? The lease costs are still $200 or more, the car is vastly inferior to the Bolt. There is no explaining it.

Lou

Scott:

I think there are a few reasons for that. One, the Bolt’s lease cost is still way too high. Although desirable, the 238 mile range is not a requirement for some people. As a commuter vehicle, a lot of people can get by quite nicely on a LEAF’s 107 miles(especially in a temperate climate like Silicon Valley).

WadeTyhon

I have just been informed by Classic Chevrolet that ordering for Texas is opening early and that orders can be placed as of 5/9/2017! 😀

I guess next week I’ll be placing my order instead of putting down a deposit!