2018 Nissan LEAF 40 kWh Range Test – Video

1 day ago by Mark Kane 53

The new 2018 Nissan LEAF (details) undergoes a range tests by James from Electrified Journeys Japan, which ultimately shows that the 40 kWh version is much more capable than the previous 30 kWh options.

2018 Nissan LEAF in Japan

Depending on the driving condition, the new LEAF was able to do from 206 miles (330 km) to 158 miles (252 km).

Please watch the video from 59:42 for summary.

The higher result is via gentle driving, but in not ideal weather, while the lower result is via harder driving, with wind, mountains and A/C on.

According to James, in U.S. we should expect 150-170 miles real world, which basically lines up with its EPA rating of 150 miles.

The previous LEAF was rated at 107 miles (172 km).

Additionally, James appreciated a lot of new information while at the DC fast charging station, stronger regen in the new edition, better acceleration, and found the overall driving experience improved compared to the old LEAF.

“After driving the 40kWh Leaf around for two days I’ve discovered a lot of new and interesting things that set it apart from the 1st Gen Leaf. I know this range test video is long but if you do watch the whole thing you might be surprised at some of the revelations I make.”

150 miles/241 km still not enough?  Nissan has a longer range ~60 kWh version set to arrive alongside the 40 kWh trim level for the 2019 model year next fall (even though they are remiss to talk about it much).  The ~60 kWh LEAF should net about 225 miles/162 miles.  Nissan also promises that it will have even better performance than the base model (which currently zips to 60 mph in a little over 8 seconds).

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53 responses to "2018 Nissan LEAF 40 kWh Range Test – Video"

  1. Terawatt says:

    I’m looking forward to test drive it! But I’ll wait for the 60 kWh to strike, or the KONA, or the Model 3, or Niro, or maybe the NISMO LEAF… or something else!

    It’s good to know that one year from now there will be many cars to choose between that are all a big step up from my current LEAF and yet reasonably priced.

  2. L'amata says:

    I Need more Cow Bell! @ least 300 miles…

    1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

      Me too.
      Need at least 200. I can live with the slower Chad charge rate but the not having active TMS for the battery is a huge showstopper for me.
      That and AWD.

    2. Brave Lil' Toaster says:

      Why?

      1. Dan says:

        …because he wears astronaut diapers and doesn’t need to stop.

  3. Another Euro point of view says:

    I am really curious how this new Leaf will fare commercially. It is true that the first 24 Kwh versions had really too short a range for many but on the other hand still for most people if range is what they care about, they just won’t buy an EV. I think there is some gap in between the manyEV enthusiast commenting here who are often all about range and cow bell and actual EV customers who often just buy an EV as second car. For those low pricing and OK range may be the sweet spot.

    1. Marcel says:

      Nissan has already sold a lot of them in Japan, and once they’re available in NA and Europe, they should sell really well. If the 40kwh Zoe can sell 3-4K units per month in Europe, then the larger Leaf should be able to at least equal that there, as well as adding a lot of sales in Japan and NA.

    2. menorman says:

      Agreed. Anything that gets people into an EV is a net win in my book and after tax credits, the new Leaf comes in at around the same price as a Prius…or even a Fit if in a state with good rebates. That’s cheap enough to get people to think it’ll make a usable commuter or second car, then quickly leading them to discover that they actually like it enough to drive it all the time.

  4. bro1999 says:

    Without an active TMS system, how many fast charges (let’s say 10-80% SOC) could a Leaf 2.0 driver expect to be able to complete before fast charging would be severely compromised due to excessive HV battery temps?

    Let’s say someone traveling on a 400 mile road trip from Central CA to SoCal during a typical July day, where ambient temps can reach 110F or higher?

    1. Ed Stein says:

      True. That was a problem with 24kwh Leaf owners in states with a lot fast chargers. That 600-700 lb solid mass of battery with very few air channels in between the packs of cells would get quite hot after successive fast charges every 50-60 miles. I didn’t have this issue in Wisconsin. The problem here was trying to get fast charges to go faster than 10,000 watts in very low temps like 0F or below. And there’s few L3 chargers leaving no opportunity to test the overheating problem.

      1. bro1999 says:

        In the Bolt, the TMS will activate when the HV battery hits 84F while fast charging. The temperature never goes much higher than 84F for the duration of fast charging. I’m curious just how high HV temps get in a Leaf while fast charging.

        1. William says:

          It’s not hard to go over 20 F over ambient air temperature, while Leaf fast charging (L3 – 40+ Kw).

          If it’s 100 F outside, and you fast charge once, then you can easily get to over 120 F. (Leaf SpyPro App). The 2016-17 Leaf 30 kWh battery, absolutely doesn’t flinch (in this charging scenario). It doesn’t noticeably taper the charge at all, when hot. That is from experience in over 1 year/12 K miles in a 2016 Leaf SV (30kWh).

          1. Brandon says:

            Thanks for that real world info William. That concurs with what I thought was the case with the bigger battery and newer battery chemistry in LEAF’s.

          2. Stimpacker says:

            I bet to differ.
            I have both. The 30kWh Leaf can get to just below red battery temp from just 1 fast charge. This is Northern California in summer.

            A friend also has one and she fast charges once a day everyday. After ~ 6 months, the fast charge now tapers off really early.

            No TMS really kills the battery.

            1. G2 says:

              There is always a “friend” with a bad experience. I hear that stuff from LICE car salesmen.

            2. William says:

              I have both as well, 24 kWh (2013) and 30 kWh (2016) Southern Cali. The 2013 (4+ year old batt.) does taper on the fast charger very quickly, 50k +mi.

              The 2016 30 kWh “Lizzard battery” goes all out ( 45kW+ ) while fast charging in the heat (Summer), up to and above 80% SOC. No taper even after 24 months/12 K mi. from manufacturer date (10/15).

    2. Shawn W says:

      Nissan can never have a EV I would buy if they don’t have a battery management system and take charging seriously. Every time I go to a Nissan dealership the dealer has all the Chargers full of ice cars. Tesla right now is the only car company that a person can buy and know they can charge your car at highspeeds and drive across the country.

      1. Jd says:

        Use the terminology correctly. Nissan does use a BMS. The current Leaf does not have TMS, thermal management system.

  5. Marcel says:

    LOL, it never fails: every article about the new Leaf always gets comments about the lack of active BTMS. It’s uncanny!

    Nissan’s decision to go with the 40kwh pack sans TMS instead of waiting for the LG chem 60 pack is probably a good one: they will sell a lot of these 40kwh models before any competition gets to market.

    Maybe the 35kwh e-golf will compete in Europe, but the Leaf will be available sooner and in greater numbers and will be cheaper everywhere else.

    1. Marcel says:

      I should clarify though, if you live in a hot climate, then yes, you probably want an EV with a BTMS.

      There are still a lot of potential customers in non-hot climates though.

      1. garyg says:

        day by day, the number of hot climates grows.

      2. Tim Miser says:

        I don’t know, I’m in Seattle and lost bars in my Leaf after 3 years, TMS or not, I don’t trust Nissan to make a battery that will last.

    2. buu says:

      apparently eGolf battery is cooking oven too per Bjorn’s test…

      1. ModernMarvelFan says:

        Another non-liquid cooled battery design.

    3. menorman says:

      The 35.3kWh e-Golf is already on sale in Europe and wiping the field in Norway.

      1. William says:

        Good heads up, thanks!

    4. Shawn W says:

      If you drive a lot and try to use a high speed charger by the second one you’ll speeds will be slow you might as well start walking. Yes a BMS is really needed.

  6. David says:

    We have a leased 2015 Leaf (very, very happy with it) and I’m more convinced than ever that this new Leaf is even better.

    PS Here in Michigan with a 2015 Leaf, thermal management has never been an issue.

  7. Courtney vegan says:

    I like the style,hate the range. And why no all digital speedometer? I think 250 mile range is a good start for that price range.

    1. Mikael says:

      Digital speedometers are crap. The human brain responds faster and better to the visual representation of an analog meter.

      1. MikeM says:

        Balderdash!

        1. wavelet says:

          Nope, true.
          Digital speedometers can give you a much more precise speed reading than analog, but it’s much more important when driving to be able to tell at a quick glance whether speed is increasing or decreasing, and how quickly — and ditto for rev counters.

          Digital instruments suck at this, as you actually need to fully consciously “read” the numbers to figure out what they mean — and in many cases the numbers flicker back and forth making the change different to figure out.

          This isn’t surprising: The human visual system developed to recognize movement — of predators & prey — so it’s quicker at that than at consciously interpreting details like writing.

          1. ItsNotAboutTheMoney says:

            Frankly, I think that’s guff.

            Analog displays are so small that you can’t easily see a small change in speed, which you need to be able to see at a glance so that you can keep your eyes on the road at much as possible.

            If cars had context-sensitive analog displays that varied displayed range according to acceleration I could buy the speed change argument, but they don’t.

            1. Djoni says:

              Who care, I use the cruise all the time.

              One to avoid speeding, which is fat too easy, even in a Leaf.

              Two, it relax me, and I concentrate on all other task.

              1. G2 says:

                Exactly Djoni!

            2. jimjfox says:

              Must point you to watches- especially the elite models. ALL analogue- and small. Never seen a car with ‘small’ analogue instruments.

          2. Leo says:

            > it’s much more important when driving to be able to tell at a quick glance whether speed is increasing or decreasing, and how quickly

            Why exactly is that important? I don’t need to look at the speedo at all to determine that my speed is increasing or decreasing and at what rate. You feel that in your body.

            So while that may be an advantage of analog speedos, it is entirely useless in practice since you already have a much better gauge of that in your body.

            1. jimjfox says:

              but only if you take the correct homeopathic medicine!

      2. jelloslug says:

        Lol, no.

      3. John says:

        Lol…I drive a car with analog and digital speedo and the analog one is useless nonsense.

    2. Astros says:

      I’ve test driven one, and there are a lot of options to configure the drivers’ display. It’s quite large, and you can set it to show a large digital speedometer if you want it.

    3. menorman says:

      It’s rated for at least 25 more miles than the e-Golf or Ioniq Electric that both MSRP for about the same as the new Leaf, so I’d hardly say that it’s overpriced for the range. After tax credits and rebates in some states, it might be possible to get a new Leaf into the high teens. That’s competitive with the likes of a Fit.

  8. kubel says:

    I’m in a second-gen Volt now. I was in a first-gen LEAF before this. And guess which one I liked better? The LEAF!

    On paper, the Volt blows the LEAF away, in terms of acceleration and top speed and technology. But in reality, the LEAF was an awesome car. No issues with fit and finish on the LEAF. On the Volt, panels don’t line up, there are rattles, reliability has been TERRIBLE on the Volt. I just want my old LEAF back, but with a little more range and a little better performance.

    Save for the terrible battery degradation, everything else about the LEAF was excellent.

    I’m not confident these batteries will be any better, though- and that’s what worries me.

    Tesla has my $1000 deposit, but I’m eyeballing this car quite a bit.

    1. William says:

      The 2015 + Leaf batteries, especially the 30 kWh 2016-17, are holding up better in most instances. In humid climates that are hot, there have been some instances reported here on IEVs.

      For the most part, on The My Nissan Leaf blog, the “lizard battery” 2015+ has been getting much better feedback and reviews from drivers that observe degradation with the LeafSpyPro App.

    2. Tom says:

      Maybe someone could start an aftermarket product where they jam a Chevy battery into a Leaf.

  9. Mukiwa says:

    I cant help but image, after seeing all the disposable AA batteries for sale during the holiday season, that maybe the automotive future is low-cost, recyclable (hopefully), 5 year traction batteries, with no active TMS. Taking it further, there may be winter and summer battery swap options, like we change our tires? The only reason why we care about active TMS is the high cost of batteries, but if prices come down like solar has, batteries could be purchased like tires today?

  10. M3 - reserved -- Niro/Leaf 2.0/Outlander - TBD says:

    3 year leases are there for a reason 😉

    San Diego and the 150mi hauler fits nicely and need to kick between that, Niro EV; Niro PHEV; Outlander PHEV. LOVE the choices for 2018.

    One more lease and then EV will be mainstream. Of course, the Model 3 will be outright purchase — if we ever get that configuration email….

  11. anthony j eckstorm says:

    Sense I have to wait till 2019 for the end of my lease. Maybe the 60kwh or nismo version!! 😀

  12. Ezradams says:

    If you charge at home, the base Leaf should be sufficient for the vast majority errands and commuting. I’m in a first generation BMW i3 with three red option. 12,000 miles and only used 10 gallons of gas.

    1. William says:

      Your i3 REx MPG is among the best!
      1,200. MPG will give the Chevy Volt 1,000.+ MPG crowd, something to consider.

  13. This presenter is so boring he is taking away from the fantastic car all interest even his passenger is so bored she went to sleep.
    Get rid of this bore he is doing nothing for this great ev.
    Thank you.
    Frankbeattie

  14. Daniel Carr says:

    I currently own a 2013 leaf with just over 40,000 miles on the 25kwh battery. With a full charge I’m just beginning to show one battery health bar loss which is intermittent and my driving range has gone from a barely acceptable 75-85 miles to a dismal 50–60 miles. Due to the significant loss of range that I’m experiencing, I will NOT touch another leaf until the they have the driving range at a solid 200+, then after 40k miles and significant battery degradation occurres, I’ll still be able to make it home from work. There was a time when loved to drive my leaf and now it’s only taking up space in my driveway… my poor baby is no longer a useful vehicle.

    1. William says:

      Battery #12 bar (first bar to drop, representing approximately 14-15% battery degradation) is from your Leaf 24 kWh (not as your stated 25kWh) battery pack.

      Status “Health bar loss which is intermittent” is, and has not yet been reported to fluctuate between 11 & 12 status bars, TMK. Once the #12 bar (1st bar) drops from your dash display, it is gone for good, never to return. Of course your case is the one exception, to what others have been experiencing/reporting on the MyNissanLeaf Blog for quite some time.

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