Video: Nissan LEAF e-Plus: Everything We Know

JAN 19 2019 BY MARK KANE 70

The e+ continues Nissan’s path of CHAdeMO and no liquid battery cooling

Here is a short summary of what we know about the upcoming Nissan LEAF e+ (with a comparison to the current version that will remain on the market), released by Sean Mitchell. Worth watching for sure, but don’t expect any new news if you’ve already tracked all of our reports from CES.

The e+ (62 kWh) seems to be a really big improvement over the (40 kWh) version in terms of range and performance (higher power motor), but it brings a big surprise about the battery, which is not only produced by Nissan‘s AESC (most of us expected LG Chem), but also still didn’t get liquid a cooling system. It’s especially strange because of previous experience with Nissan’s batteries in hot climate and because the bigger and more valuable the battery is, the relatively smaller the cost of the thermal management system.

From the video description:

“And to many people’s surprise, still a passive cooling system on the battery pack

I reached out to Nissan about this and here’s what they said:

“The battery will have passive cooling as this meets the needs of our customers. As battery technology has evolved since the launch of the first LEAF, Nissan has worked to add additional safeguards to help mitigate battery degradation.”

When I asked them about any change in their battery supplier, thinking they had made some improvements on that end, the spokesperson said there was no change to the supplier and Nissan will continue to use AECS.

Here’s my take on this, I’m extremely optimistic about the additional range and improved charging speeds on the e+. This makes it a viable option for more people, especially people who drive further distances.”

Nissan LEAF e+ specs (vs. LEAF 40 kWh)

  • 62 kWh battery (+55% capacity over 40 kWh, 25% more energy dense lithium-ion cells, similar size)
  • 288 lithium-ion cells (compared to 192 cells)
  • battery limited warranty of 8 years/160,000 km (whichever occurs first) is standard
  • 364 km (226 miles) of expected EPA range (up 50% from 243 km/151 miles)
  • 385 km (239 miles) of WLTP range in Europe (vs. 285 km/177 miles)
  • 458 km (285 miles) of WLTC Japan range in Japan (vs. 322 km/200 miles)
  • 570 km (354 miles) of JC08 range in Japan (vs. 400 km/249 miles)
  • 160 kW electric motor (up from 110 kW) and 250 lb-ft (340 Nm) (vs. 320 Nm in 40 kWh version)
  • 70 kW (100 kW peak) fast charging using CHAdeMO (vs. less than 50 kW)
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There’s no way that thing’s going to DCFC at anything near those rates without any battery cooling.

We have never had a problem charging our Nissan LEAFs before, even 4 quick chargers in one day in 95F in the shade. Everyone needs to follow the manufacturers recommendations for charging your vehicles.

Thanks, but no thanks.
24KWh Leaf owner

Agree – I have both a Model 3 and a 2013 Leaf. I’ll likely get rid of the leaf in the next year or so — it will not be replaced with anything without Active cooling……Still hoping for a surprise early launch of the Model Y!

It looks like the 64 kWh Kia Soul EV for 2020 was a Surprise! And if they can ship more than a Dozen a Day, that TOO, will be a Surprise!

At some supposed 285 or so miles Range, it will be an interesting Model Y comparison (competitor?).

How many times has your LEAF overheated or caught on fire? Why would it need active cooling?

My 24 KWh gets over 100F in the summer (SoCal) ALL THE TIME after a single DC charge and takes about a day to come back down to the 80Fs. After two DC charges, I’ve hit 115F.

And getting hot is what degrades the battery range over time. Battery cooling is why teslas are able to charge at very high rates over and over again without much degradation.

Go Nissan!

Did he guess at a 6 second 0-60 time? Thought they already published mid 7s?

The current LEAF is 0-60 in 7.2 and Nissan has released that the Plus should be 10% better which makes it circa 6.5 0-60.

As a Nissan Leaf owner, I suggest you lease, not buy, until Nissan’s battery issues are solved. Nissan’s policy of not offering upgrade paths for their batteries, treating their 350,000 plus first generation cars as throwaway junk and then increasing the cost of replacement batteries over $8,000, strengthen my suggestion.

If your set on a 200 + mi. range EV hatchback,

Lease the 2019 Leaf e+,

Or,

buy the Bolt, (especially soon, before the $7.5K Federal tax rebate incentive gets halved, reducing the savings down to only $3.75K.)

Or,

become a patient Tesla Model Y waiter, should you not be able to get in line on the very limited supply of Hyundai/Kia Kona EV / E-Niro, here in the US.

Great advice!

“become a patient Tesla Model Y or VW ID Crozz waiter”
FIFY

In 2020, the VW ID Crozz, in the N.A. EV market, may be quite a bit cheaper than the Tesla Model Y, if VW is able to launch on time, and a prospective VW buyer can maximize the full Fed $7.5 tax credit.

My bad, I forgot the VW 200 mi. + EV offering ( ID Crozz ), was launching along side, in roughly the same time frame as the much anticipated Tesla Model Y, in and or around 2020.

VW will want to maximize its EV sales in the EU because they need to lower their fleet CO2 average to avoid paying big fines (starting in 2021).

Or, look at the 2020 Kia Soul EV, with a 64 kWh only US Option.

Nissan is also now working on a Y sized AWD BEV with a 15-18 month release time frame. Think somewhere between Rogue Sport and Kicks, Nissan’s Rogue is the most sought after SUV in the Northeast so its worth waiting for their offering before deciding.

Why even consider? Just get a Bolt or if its available, E-Kona or E-Niro.

Funny how pretty much 100% of this “throwaway junk” used Leaf fleet, still drives circles around the world.

Nissan could have surely done more, but bottom line they found a way to continually upgrade their new-technology product while making $$, despite targeting the mid-market rather than luxury buyers.

People can diss Nissan all they want, but just look at Renault-Nissan vs. the other members of the Big Seven (3 US, 3 Japan, and VW) to understand that they’re actually the good guys in this story.

It is pretty useless advice to wait for more expensive non-existent cars. (Bolt excepted) Nissan has found a profitable segment that no one else is competing in. No one needs >200 miles of range, but everyone wants it. Nissan shrewdly provides a cheap cure for range anxiety, knowing that no one will ever test those limits or experience any capacity loss. They have data on 300,000 vehicles and countless miles of travel to justify their choices.

If you’re looking to drive cross-country, 200 miles range is pretty much the bottom of what you could get by with (unless you are willing to do a lot of waiting). Remember quick charges generally go to 80% full. For a 200 mile battery pack, that means 160 miles (less if it’s cold). Plus you’ll want to keep maybe 15-20 miles of cushion. So you are realistically not going much over 140 miles between stops (i.e. 2 hours at highway speeds). So for each 2 hours you drive, you’ll spend a half hour charging. That’s a lot. To get an idea of how this works in an actual trip, let’s try going from St. Louis to Oklahoma city, first in a 200 mile 60 kwh Model S, then in a long-range, 310 mile Model 3. (I’m using figures from evtripplanner.com.) Drive time is about 8 hours. In the 200 mile car, you’ll spend a whopping 2:39 charging. But in the 310 mile car, it’s only 0:39. That’s two hours more wait time in the 200 mile car, over the course of a single day trip. Of course, if you had something less (say, 150 miles range), you’d spend even longer.… Read more »

I intend to go to the moon soon. Although Musk targets Mars, I do hope model Y will have a range so I can get to the moon (without a break – I’m in a hurry).

Excellent illustration James. When people like Michael say things like “no one needs > 200 miles of range” what they should say is “most people don’t need…” that range. Some of us need 300 miles and would like 400 miles, and will pay for that extra range once it becomes available. I drive an average of 1k miles per week, across multiple states, and I use every bit of my Model 3s 300 miles of range. A 200 mile slow charging Leaf would NOT work for me.

You are absolutely correct! A 200 mile Leaf is not good for you or Jame’s then, based on his needs. Why bash the Leaf when you have many other choices out there? It’s a fantastic BEV for many people, but certainly not everyone. Just like some need a hatchback, some need a SUV, etc etc. So I don’t get why most people continue to bash the Leaf when Nissan is selling it as we know the specs and features to be. If a person needs something different, then don’t bash it, go look at something else! Really, this is just so ridiculous! I read this same garbage over and over again on comments on every Leaf article IEVs publishes, on other site, forums, etc. I think the Leaf is a great car, just as the Bolt is, Model 3 is, Ioniq is, Niro EV is, Kona EV is, e-Golf is, etc etc. They all have pros and cons and when one is looking at a BEV, there are decisions to be made about needs, budget, etc. I don’t get why you are all on this negative slant towards Nissan. If Nissan has personally done something bad to you, then at… Read more »

If only there were retail outlets where you could “rent” a gasoline car for a day, weekend, or longer for those intercity trips where electric isn’t all that time or cost competitive with ICE.

Got 2-3 such Rental Places: Budget, Discount, & Avis – within 2-3 Blocks! Even used a ICE Rental, in the past, just for a High Mileage Trip! Mine was older, and smaller!

So, either you forgot the “/S”, or you ARE not close to such, I guess!

I think the S was implied

Just rent most any Tesla on Turo.

Renting a “gasoline car” is a good second choice, in a pinch.

Even though I drive an electric car, and because of that, I know that driving cross-country is not something that is easy to do in any EV right now. From non-ubiquitous charging infrastructure, to the lowered range you get when running cabin temperature controls and semi-autonomous driving, you will have to stop and wait a lot.

I hear this over and over again from people who argue that electric vehicles can never replace the conventional car with 500 miles of range which can refuel in 5 minutes. True. They can’t. But equally true is that they don’t need to. Less that 6% of single trips are greater than 30 miles according to the latest DOE driver’s surveys. I think Nissan has the right product here. The passively cooled battery gives them a price advantage. It will sell as long as people believe they need the range. But Nissan, like the DOE, know that no one (OK almost no one) ever goes that far. That being the case, very few people will be inconvenienced by the slower DC charging rates and very few people will see drastic capacity loss.

Great cars, which LEAF do you own? Tell me one manufacturer that offers an engine or motor or battery upgrade? If you own a Infiniti G35 how many people want to upgrade the motor to a 37? If you want a bigger battery buy a later model car with a bigger battery

What battery issues? Our LEAFs all have outstanding batteries and they should last a lifetime. Did you read the instruction manual? There are a lot of great sources on how to properly maintain your EV battery. A lot of that same advice is applicable to your LION lawn tools and hand tools as well. The LEAFs also have some of the best warranties for any EVs. Great cars. I think the LEAFs were the first EVs to have battery degradation warranties.

Any word on US pricing? The European pricing is insane.

Still waiting for US pricing, it may take a few more weeks.

I wonder how much more expensive this Leaf would be if it had liquid cooling.

Have you seen how Tesla is doing it? There are strips of cooling channels doing SSs each side of cell strip. Plus add pumps, control, tanks, fluids, maintenance, … It also adds weight.

I don’t know if the cost is big but as latest news show, Tesla is barely making profit with a 75kWh battery pack with an average price well over $50k (I would say $55k). Also Tesla is selling more cars with the simplicity (until now) of one geographic region.
I think everybody knows by now that leaf batteries last less so people should look at it like a 56kWh car per example and eventually be more careful how they drive… and it’s perfectly fine.

I park my 2018 Leaf next to a Model 3 and definitely say the tesla’s 2x price diff isn’t in the sheet metal.

Meaning? So, it sounds like… You like Your Leafs Sheet Metal Better? Am I understanding you right?

Ok, if so, what does that look do for me? Will it help me make the Drive from GTA (Toronto, ON), to Orlando, FL? So far, only a Tesla is a Working EV competitive with any ICE vehicle, for trips like that! So if I trade out my ICE for an EV, it needs to replace it for trips like that, else, I just by a Used EV as a Local Runabout car, keep my ICE for Trips, or Rent for Trips!

I bought a 2010 Kia Soul 2U, my sister thinks they are ugly, but I never asked her for help to pay for it, so her opinion is irrelevant, as to how it looks! I don’t use my vehicle to pick up dates, so, again, looks are not an issue!

I got a Pilots Licence, if I wanted to do something to impress folks! If that was my real Goal, Buying a Plane would Extend that Efforts, too!

Basically, a car is just a Tool, to do a Job! Only question is, does it do the Job Well, or not?!

I don’t like any 4 door car’s design, LOL.

For me, the Tesla or any big-battery bev just doesn’t have an economic use case vs the $30,000 OTD you can get with a 40kWh Leaf (or e-golf if VW deigned to sell them here).

I just do 30 miles a day, every day. I don’t particularly need to buy more battery equity, 30 to 40kWh is sufficient (just like the Leaf’s 0 to 60 time is sufficient for me).

Eventually I’d like to get a nice weekend adventure vehicle, something I can take off the beaten path.

Tesla RV or a Rivian pulling a trailer might work for that, but nothing’s on the market now…

“this meets the needs of our customers.”

A wise company, that believes in its own products, would seek to meet needs of those who are *not* already their customers.

Good principle. Note however, that >95% of those not already Leaf customers, probably have no clue what all this inside-EVball fight about active/passive cooling is about anyway.

*And* a good chunk of EV-insiders who use TMS as the main reason to diss the Leaf, would hop on to the next reason rather than consider a Leaf once Nissan actually does it.

So both you and Nissan are right in a way 🙂

The real Question then is… “How does Nissan KNIW that their existing customers are having their “Needs” met?” Have they offered multiple Pack Cooling Choices, and compared the Sales? Have they Offered a Paid Survey or a Free one, to all existing “And” Past, Leaf Customers? Also, are they looking at the sales growth of the Leaf, or Lack Thereof, to determine what is the right offering? Of course, Tesla, with sales so far only on One Continent, for the Model 3, has limited World Wide Data and Sales Numbers, and it may take until the End of 2020, just to see how the Model 3 is really being a Winner in All Markets, due mostly to Tesla only having Fremont to make everything, at present. That should change, with Low Cost Model 3’s being made in China, for China, in 2020 (starting this year, if they make their goals), but already, the writing is on the wall, since the Model 3 accumulated a Global 450,000 Reservations, @ $1,000 each, net, and also, in the USA (& Canada) Q4 sales, were 75% to Non Reservation Holders! If the Model 3 sells just 25% of a given Quarter’s sales to Reservation… Read more »

If I lived up North in a cooler climate, I’d be fine with the standard 150 mile version or the e+. But since I live in Texas and have owned two Leafs before, no thanks. I’ll stick with cars that have active cooling.

Well said David. I live in GA, had a 2015 Leaf, and our battery degraded almost 10% over 35k miles in 3.5 years before it was regrettably totaled in an accident. If I lived up north I would consider another Leaf as it was a great little car other than the battery degradation. But in the south with our climate, never again. Of course, if I lived up north I would be trying like hell to find a job down south so I could move back! 🙂

10% over 35K miles (58K km) seem pretty normal to me considering the number of charge cycles. Even Teslas with almost 3X bigger battery lose about 5% in that time. For initial degradation, that seems typical for that battery size.

https://insideevs.com/lets-look-at-tesla-model-s-x-battery-degradation/

What should battery size have to do with degradation? Other than the fact that 10% in a smaller battery hurts more than a larger battery, percent is percent. Second, your link is appreciated, but you’re telling this person that twice the percentage of Tesla is normal. It is not.

The article you cite does state that Teslas experience 5% battery degradation, then you leave out the remainder of the article that this degradation drops thereafter: “… battery capacity fades by around 5% in the first 50,000 km (31,000 miles) and then degradation slows down to just 1% per 50,000 km or so.”

So how is 10% at 35,000 normal by any stretch of the article?

The duty cycle on a 24kWh battery will generally be between 20% SOC to 80%, just 16kWh.

The same 16kWh on a 60kWh battery would be 55% SOC to 80%, much less deep discharge so less battery degradation.

“What should battery size have to do with degradation?”

Homework for you: How many charge cycles would a 75 kWh battery go through vs 24 kWh for a given number of miles? (Hint: it’s over 3X more for 24 kWh, so 3 times 5% would be???)

“then you leave out the remainder of the article”

My comment clearly states “For initial degradation”. Why did you leave that out?

I had similar battery degradation my my 2015, which made the 24kWh a little tight in the winter cold.

Which is why I’m happy with my 2018, I’m basically warrantied a 24kWh minimum for 8 years.

Almost all EVs lose 10% over 3.5 years. That’s expected. That’s one reason why people need to select EVs with twice their daily commute. They also need extra range for AC, heat, and extra errands. You can do things to help preserve your EV battery. Avoid 100% to 0%(dash dash dash) daily cycles and avoid letting the battery sit at a 100% state of charge. Try to use the EV in the 20-80% charge range and save those 100% charges for trips to Granny’s house. That will improve the longevity of your EV. For your LION lawn tools be sure to store them around 50% charge over winter when not used and do not store them out in your car in the sun. You can get the most from your EV or LION lawn tools.

There are better BEVs on the market.

Actually there isn’t yet. The LEAF is one of the most reliable cars ever made.

VW I.D. Neo and 2. gen Renault Zoe will be much better cars with faster charging. It is better to wait.

I’ll stick with my Model 3.

BME I3,FUGLY and no range
BOLT, UGLY and minimum range
LEAF,looks a little better, minimum range, no BTM system
Therefore, no choices but TESLA (Beautiful, fast, powerful, autopilot,charging network OTA updates,…)

Tesla 3, expensive, long (harder to street park), poor fit/finish, poor paint job, water dripping into cabin at drive thru

Therefore, no choice but Bolt on sale for everyday driving.

I’m paying $430/mo 0% interest for 6 years, negative $1000 down (thanks to lease acceleration on my 2015) and got $15,000 in govt rebates on my 2018 Leaf S.

Net cost pencils out to a shade over $13,000.

I think I made the right choice given my needs (99% of my driving is the same 30 miles over an over).

Please break down your mentioned US Govt. rebates (“$15.0 k”), for the MAGA crowd, and their 30 + day partial Govt. shutdown acolytes.

Fed ($7.5 k), State of ? ($2.5 k – $4.0 k), = up to $11.5 k ?

Utility (not Govt.) …= $3.5k? = “$15.0 k”?

$7500 federal, $4500 California, plus another $3000 from the state air quality district

Do not buy this car unless you live in the PNW. It’s probably the only climate in which a non-TMS car makes sense. Nissan made a mistake here.

And remember, you shouldn’t fast charge the Leaf either.

I DC every day baby.

If I see a 5% SOH hit every year (what my 2015 had lost over 2.75 years, and first summer of my 2018) then you will be right.

If the battery settles out after 6 hit summers at 80% or above, then not.

Only time will tell…. as it is I wouldn’t pay more than a couple thousand for 20 more kWh, as 30kWh+ meets my in-town needs fine, and the occasional 150 miles to the coast is doable too.

We live in a hot climate and all our LEAFs are outstanding cars. I expect my 2012 LEAF to last a lifetime. In over 7 years the only maintenance cost was $312 to replace a cracked windshield on our first LEAF. That windshield would have cost $2,290 for a Tesla?

We have done as many as 6 charges in one day in our 2016 LEAF in 95F weather, 4 of which were quick charges to 80% or more. Great car. Not the best car for long range travel but if you only go out of state once or twice a year we can make it work fine, we walk the dogs or get something to eat while it is charging.

The LEAF does not have TMS because it does not get hot and catch on fire when it is charged. Great cars.

Great news. Families all over the world will love those cars for generations to come. My 2012 LEAF was the best investment I ever made, paid for itself. When you select your EV be sure to get one with twice the range of your daily commute, you need extra range for AC, heat, and extra errands. Hopefully new models from all brands will be available in 2019 and consumers will have more choices. Brand loyalty is very important for the automotive market so we need every brand to offer 3 or 4 different models of EVs and hybrids.

Enjoy your new EV.

Guess estimation for lease?