Tesla Model 3 Spotted In Europe With Different Charging Inlet


It comes as no surprise that a Tesla Model 3 in Europe would have a different charging inlet, but it’s exciting news.

The time seems to be more quickly approaching for our friends across the pond. We’ve learned about and reported on several instances that suggest Tesla is gearing up for its Model 3 launch in Europe. Prior to this report, any Tesla Model 3 vehicles spotted outside of North American have been U.S. models that found their way out of the country. Now, we have the first spotting of a model with a Euro-spec charging inlet.

Being that this recent sighting shows what is probably a Type 2 Mennekes inlet, it’s further proof that Tesla is manufacturing Model 3 vehicles for Europe. However, we’ve already reported that the Silicon Valley automaker is registering Model 3 VINs for the area.

The Model 3 was photographed by Facebook user Detlef Knobloch (Knobi) and first shared on the social media network’s Tesla Model 3 group. In addition, it was first discovered and reported by Electrek. The images were captured at Tesla Grohmann Automation’s home base in Prüm, Germany. Tesla acquired the engineering equipment maker and supplier for over $100 million in January 2017.

In the past, Tesla has built all Model S and X vehicles in Fremont, California for all markets, and continues to do so. However, the automaker outfits European models with the Type 2 Mennekes charging connector. Obviously, Euro-based Tesla charging networks are also set up with this compliant technology.

Once Tesla Model 3 vehicles begin to ship to Europe, we can only anticipate that the process will be much quicker and more streamlined than it was in regard to the U.S. launch. Of course, shipping time and the fact that Tesla will still be filling North American orders will come into play, but the bottlenecks have been primarily addressed and production and delivery efforts are at a high point. This should mean overseas Model 3 reservation holders won’t have to wait forever for their orders to be filled. This is especially promising since those buyers have already been waiting for an extended period of time.

Source: Facebook via Electrek


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Cool, long suffering Europeans can now have the best ev available, and they deserve it.

Hmm. Not sure It’s the one we want.

well it looks like the only one you’re getting for a while….

Still have to wait 2 + month AND that is if they ordered it 800-1000 days ago. If they order now, we’re probably talking 2020..? At least it’s an easy job for Tesla, when it comes down to how many they should send to Europe. The answer is all they can make 🙂 Luxury problem, now in the early days of EVs. Must be like a sales person at Xerox in the early days, when they had no competitor at all. People had to apply, and be on a waiting list to get their product. Just like EVs now. In Norway, there will be record EV sales – and if Tesla get the logistics in order, Model 3 will be number one, followed fairly closely by e-tron (if they’re in full volume production), and I think the rest of the list will be full of EVs that excists now, like e-golf, model s and x, Zöe, BMW a few KIAs and Hyundais, the e-up, Mercedes, Smart and of course the LEAF. Not much of a competition yet – but during 2019 we’ll probably see a new EV from PSA, Audi, VW, Porsche and so on. By 2020, there will be… Read more »

It’s a bit sad to see the e-tron getting more pre-orders than the I-Pace… It’s understandable I guess, since the I-Pace is kinda niche — yet it feels like it *deserves* more attention, because it seems to be a more serious effort…

So does it support CCS or not? I hope so.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Download the image and zooming in, I can’t see the extra pins that would be needed for CCS Type 2. It just looks like Tesla’s modified Type 2.

It’s just plastic there. It could easily be CCS there when getting it into production (or sometime in the future).

Well that’s a depressing missed opportunity. At least it looks like there’s room below the plug for the DC pins.

Looks like just the type-2 compatible connector from S/X unfortunately. But ghere’s plenty of time to change…

I hope so too. It makes sense in Europe especially, where it looks like any new supercharger stations may have to have a CCS connection to comply with legislation pushing a common charger standard.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Europe’s coming next. In their 2018Q3 call they said they’d begin production for Europe end of this year so they’ll begin deliveries in 2019Q1.

They said they are opening *orders* by end of this year — production starts in January.

I really really hope it comes with ccs too! Why not tesla? It would make it chare from almost all charging stations in Europe without a clunky adapter!

I didn’t know there was CCS to Tesla adapter. Is that only available in Europe?

I have a CHAdeMO to Tesla UMC but I have never seen a CCS version. And as you know the model 3 doesn’t work with the CHAdeMO yet. I used to use it on my model S.

Kalle mentioned using clunky adapter in Europe for CCS. It’s probably not made by Tesla. Might be news worthy if there is CCS to supercharger adapter available.

Chademo not CCS

As far as I know, there still is no CCS to Tesla adapter. But Tesla did join a European CharIN/ CCS consortium a year or two ago, so we might hope that at least European Tesla cars will eventually get one.

Sadly, an American CCS to Tesla adapter seems less likely. 🙁

Why would that be? Technically, it should make no difference; and it seems like CCS will become equally dominant in both markets…

It’s not available. As far as I know the CCS protocol doesn’t support any kind of adapters or extensions. That is one serious disadvantage in comparison to CHAdeMO.

The protocol does not have to support it, CHAdeMO’s doesn’t either officially. The adapter can just spoof the signals required and the charger would not know there is any sort of adapter being used. There is no need for the protocol to explicitly support it.

The issue is that the European version (IEC) of CCS standard document says that adapters are not allowed (I don’t know however if this had been changed in later versions). Not even for AC charging AFAIK (which is why Tesla was forced to put in a Type 2 port instead of using a proprietary port and adapter like they did in the USA).

they needed a plug for 3 phase anyway so the US variant wouldn’t have worked for AC anyways.

Tesla and Chademo use CAN signaling at much lower rate (~ 1 MHz) while CCS uses home plug GreenPHY at 10 times the rate (~ 10 MHz). Chademo uses dedicated signal pins separate from DC pins while CCS uses needlessly complex multiplexing on power pins. Problem is not insurmountable, but CCS just more complicated for no good reason.

Actually, there is one good reason for CCS and that is no interference to AM radio due to higher frequency. But if adapter to CAN is made, that benefit goes away.

“while CCS uses needlessly complex multiplexing on power pins.”

No, for Type 2 and CCS the data communication is on the dedicated Control Pilot pin.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

For me, here in the states, I would pay $600 for an additional CCS port installed in the front of the frunk.

I know some Tesla owners who say the same thing.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

If every new US Tesla owner paid an extra $600, and they kept selling 20,000 cars per month, then at $250k per site, they’d enough _extra_ money to build 576 _extra_ new Superchargers _every year_.

There are currently 577 Supercharger sites open in the USA.

But you’d rather spend $600 on an adapter?

Just think how that would benefit EV’s in total if Tesla invested that money into CCS instead. Another 557 CCS sites on top of Electrify Americas 500 CCS sites and probably a similar number of others. That’s 1600 new CCS sites a year for all EV owners to use.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Just think how much easier it is for half-hearted manufacturers to sell their BEVs with everybody using the same standard.

Commitment matters more than the charging standard.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

“But you’d rather spend $600 on an adapter?”

Never said ADAPTER. I said an additional CCS port which means a different charger completely.
Yes, I would pay $600 for another DCFC hardware that can charge at 100kW.

Do Not Read Between The Lines

Adapter, port, whatever.
You want it because you want access to more chargers.

Tesla only recently passed 200,000 sales in the USA but now it has a run-rate of over 250,000 per year.
What do you think the Supercharger network will look like when they’ve sold 1M BEVs?

Give it 5 years, and all this fretting about charging standards will stop, because charger coverage will follow volume.

Get the adapter for a third of the price.

(⌐■_■) Trollnonymous

You’re killin me bruh……there is no CCS adapter as far as I know.

Don’t see this as a Big Deal, other than to say the M3 is soon to be sold ‘across the pond’. All “S” ‘s ever sold there were Mennekes compatible, so using the same thing for the ‘3’ is no real news.

The big question is why the Ampera-e and I-pace never made provision for the home countries, but looks like to me they just wanted to get the show on the road, so to speak.