Tesla Officially Adds 4th Version Of Model S – 75 kWh

JUN 27 2016 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 34

Newly Designed Model S

Newly Designed Model S

Over the weekend, Tesla quietly added a fourth version to the Model S lineup: Model S 75.

No longer listed as just an upgrade, the 75 kWh version of the Model S is now a standalone offering that join the 60 kWh, 90D and P90D variants in the lineup.

Tesla is constantly tweaking its model lineup, as just earlier this month the automaker announced the re-introduction of the base 60 kWh Model S. This move brought the cost of entry down to $66,000 for the S. At the same time, Tesla decided to offer an upgrade path from 60 to 75 for $8,500 prior to delivery or $9,500 after delivery.

The introduction of the standalone 75 kWh Model S at $74,500 (or exactly $8,500 more than the 60 kWh version) make sense then for those eyeing the 60, but who really seek the range that the 75 kWh upgrade offers.

Nothing else changes though. So, if you we’re considering a 60 Model S and wanted to range upgrade, then now all you need to do is purchase the 75 kWh S. It’s as simple as that really.

All-wheel-drive adds $5,000 to the base price of both the 60 and the 75. Range for the RWD 75 Model S is listed at 249 miles. AWD bumps range up to 259 miles. Meanwhile, the 60 kWh S is listed at 210 in RWD and 218 in AWD.

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My heading is spinning… I have an S85. Does anybody remember when Tesla was selling those? Geez….

It was 80k, but, depending on when you bought it, the standard equipment was worse. I remember the first tech package being 4k, or something like that, and just added turn by turn navigation, xenon headlamps, homelink and the backup camera. So basically everything, or worse, than whats standard today.

So about 10 grand less for a bit less range (the 85, in truth, was a 80), compared to the S85, 2 years ago.

Tom, +1

the 70 used to be 70k$. so 5 more kwh for 4500$. that’s 900 $/kwh. sounds kind of steep…or am I missing something.

Nope. You got it. No net price change, if you consider the 70, to 75, upgrade cost left a buyer of the 75kwh car at the same place whether today, or before the 60kwh was re-introduced.

I like R.S. analysis, above. WK057 counted ~81 actual kwh in the 85. The 60 has 75kwh, even though it’s software range restricted. It still has the non-range benefits of higher cycle life, safer reserve, potential for more power from OTA download, better roll-on highway acceleration. I can’t verify every single one of these, but think Tesla wouldn’t gimp more than range in the 60kwh (It will be known when 1/8 mi times come in).

The only caveat in my mind is what someone’s resale is going to be, on a 60kwh restricted car, when Tesla (who dominates its own pre-owned market) is out there toggling its trades up to 75kwh? That may limit folks to trading, where, OTOH, some have reported solid offers on their 40kwh cars (which then went to 60kwh). It’s a tough call because Tesla really holds the cards.

…solid offers (from Tesla)

pjwood1 said:

“The 60 has 75kwh, even though it’s software range restricted. It still has the non-range benefits of… better roll-on highway acceleration.”

Well, I’d like to see an actual test of 0-60 times of the new S60 vs. the S75.

My guess is that Tesla will limit the available power in the new S60, just as they limit the usable battery capacity. The ability to upgrade the 0-60 time would be another selling point.

Tesla claims the same acceleration. Why would they engineer in a difference and then hide it?!?

(shrugs) I guess Tesla uses battery size the same way Apple uses hard drive size. One major difference is that Apple doesn’t make any comment about the declining cost of hard drives.

So we have a 40 that is really a 60, a 60 that can either be a real 60 or a limited 75, an out of production 70, a 85, P85, P85+, 90, 90 that may be a limited 100, some versionavailable s with 4WD, some not … I am beginning to get confused.

I refer you to my spinning head….

mhpr262 said:

“I am beginning to get confused.”

Yeah, all the varieties of the Model S are getting to be too much to keep track of without a scorecard, even for a hardcore Tesla fanboy like me.

As Tesla likes to say they “improve” (change) the cars “continuously”. So there are FAR more variants out there than the ones you touch upon – that’s just the main battery pack size variations…

Lol really Tesla

What was the 70D price? Thought price was $75k . You can get 60D for less but much less battery!

I remember the 75 as 75k$ as well

Now it’s just the S105 and S120 missing.

This is like watching Sergei Bubka break world records, you knew he could do more but he prefered adding a small bit at a time…

Where’s the P100D already??

I think 60KwH is a very compelling vehicle. If Tesla could allow temporary unlocking of extra capacity for a price (albeit a bit steep),it would become a paradigm shift in the way vehicles are sold around the world.

HAHA! So comical Elon! Is anyone else seeing the irony that the S60 and S75 are the same car but with one of them having the extra 15kwh in the battery “accessible” to the user?! I got a great deal on a 4 bedroom house. The only problem is that one of the bedrooms is blocked off at the moment, so it only has 3 that are usable, but my real estate agent said that I could pay a little extra in the future and they’d unlock that extra bedroom! Furthermore, it is pretty likely that if you bought an S60, the battery would eat into the extra 15kwh over time as it degrades, so if you kept it long enough, you’d wind up getting what you didn’t pay for anyways. This whole unused capacity thing is ridiculous Elon. Just get rid of the S60 and make the S75 a $66K car. It feels like you’re scamming your customers. I get it, your early buyers will feel like they overpaid for their cars, but heh, battery tech has come a long way and prices have dropped. I for one won’t be rushing out to buy an S60 (or for that… Read more »

I was with you until you mentioned the $60k Model 3.

If my Model 3 even approaches $45k, I’m out.

I bet you that a fully optioned model 3 will get very close to $60k. Just think about a BMW 3 series or an Audi A4, sure a base model 328 or A4 comes in sub 40k but if you want an M3 or an RS4 you’re talking 60k plus. There is no reason that an optioned out model 3 with a sub 4 second 0-60 wouldn’t be near 60k.

Base price is 35k
Add 5k for bigger battery
Add 3k for dual motors
Add 2k for autopilot
Add 3k for ludicrous
Add 4k for premium package and higher end paint
Add 1k for fancier wheels
Add 2k for unlimited supercharging

Now you’re at 55k… Add tax and license and you’re at 60k

Ignore the rebates and tax incentives because tesla still gets that money.

It will unless you didn’t take a single option. But remember Musk said that the average will be 42K

If only it were that simple.
The aim of the S60(75) is to get a few up-sells to people who’re waiting for the Model 3. Selling the S75 for $66 would be slashing margin or taking a loss.

With the S60(75) Tesla can realize at least part of the value of the additional hardware later. And since the car will _never_ be fully charged it should retain range pretty well, and have a relatively good resale value.

The impact to degradation should be negligible in an S60 vs an S75 assuming that both have a 75kwh pack, both will have he same cycle rate for the miles on the car, the S60 might get a slight bump because it can afford greater headspace on the top and bottom of the pack at full charge and thus lower overall temps, but with TMS, that shouldn’t be off too much of a concern. It also depends on what Tesla tells the software to do when the pack degrades, it can either eat into that extra capacity and keep the range the same or it can eat into the usable 60kwh and decrease the existing range. My guess is that he’ll eat into the extra capacity so that he can tout the non-existent degradation on the pack.

I so agree! Software-disabling hardware that is bloody expensive is MORONIC. As Elon would say, the obvious thing to do would be to actually make a 60 kWh pack for a cheaper car. Selling an equally expensive-to-make car for less because you’ve crippled it in software is an insult to everyone’s intelligence.

The different speed versions of Intel CPUs are actually the same. The Pro and Standard versions of any applications are the same. There are software-limited ICE engines. And so on.. There’s nothing special in segmentation.

The question is how much cheaper would a 60kWh pack actually be in production. The price per kWh, of the pack, seems to be somewhere below $190, at least that was the last semi official Tesla statement. So 15kWh saved might “just” be $2850, maybe even less.

If there is enough demand to keep three versions, they might consider building 3 different packs, if not, they can still cash in some of those $2850 after the buy back and keep it software limited.

In the long run, I do think that the actual price of the pack will become a smaller and smaller part of the Model S price. Maybe someday they will just sell one single pack version.

But if you buy the 60 and keep it for 8-10 years without never upgrade to 75 Tesla would have put extra batteries for nothing.

not sure how its a scam. you are paying for 60 and you are getting 60. if you consider degradation, you clearly win with 60 because it takes a while before 75 becomes 60.

I said that it feels like one, not that it was. I just think it’s a stupid idea. I don’t buy a V8 that only has six functioning cylinders or a 4 bedroom house with one locked bedroom.

not sure about that. Maybe if it is restrained to 60 as soon has the batteries degrades it start down from 60 not 75…

Waiting for the 80kW

Lol

I just hope that People keep ordering whatever Model S cars because Tesla needs to keep selling lots of Model S and Model X cars while they try to get the Model 3 ready.