Chevrolet Bolt EV Nationwide Deliveries Bump Up To August, Orders Open Now

JUN 9 2017 BY JAY COLE 115

Previously released Chevrolet Bolt Roll-out Schedule For U.S.

General Motors had originally planned to open nationwide US orders for its all-electric, Chevrolet Bolt EV in July – for first deliveries to arrive in September.


Now available to order at all certified US Chevrolet dealers

However, customers across the country have now discovered that they can already place orders for the 238 mile EV.

Better yet, they will also arrive early – the new ETA is August deliveries!

Confirmed today by Steve Majoros, who is Chevy’s marketing director for cars, all electric-certified Chevrolet dealers can (from June 1st) now order the Bolt EV, and expect them to start arriving in two months.

“We were waiting for the training to be done, we were waiting for the right tools to be in place,” Majoros said at a Nashville Chevrolet media via Automotive News.  

“We are kind of ahead of schedule on implementing all of those things as well as making sure we have enough sufficient inventory.”

GM’s Orion, Michigan assembly line has started nationwide production for the Chevy Bolt EV a month early!

As regular InsideEVs are well aware, local inventory in the first 14 states already offering the Bolt EV has exploded over the past month and a half, and now stands at just over 5,000 copies.

With Bolt EVs inventories so high, and initial sales perhaps not quite as robust as originally expected in those areas (1,566 sold in May, 1,292 in April), the winner is the rest of the United States.

“It’s this delicate balancing act,” Majoros said. “But we think we’re at the right level of sufficient inventory. We can keep feeding where there’s a stronghold of sales.”

With the start of national sales, the Chevy marketing boss said that a “highly targeted” national advertising campaign will soon kick off.

Graphic (below):  Top 7 selling plug-in vehicles in the US (as well as cumulative totals for all 35 models – see full list on our US Monthly Plug-In Sales Scorecard)

Top 7 Selling Plug-In For US Through May – Bump To Chevrolet Volt Sales Likely Arriving In August (*-aprox)

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Too bad GM corp. cannot buy back the CA inventory and resell them to dealerships in other states…

I imagine dealer trades should be much easier at least now that inventories are higher and GM isn’t trying to crack down on out of state sales.

But almost no one knows you can do that in the first place and if you want to your friendly local dealership the front line sale most likely have no idea that’s an option…Despite some diehard already acquiring Bolt EVs and living FL (EVs aren’t good for hurricane evacuations) and TX (oil rich, maybe oil tycoons will buy one so they can shoot at it for entertainment), many think once available in those states Bolt sales will quadruple for some reason…

Two of the local Chevy dealers in central Virginia have redistributed CA Bolts. One dealers has four and one in Richmond has at least twenty. Window sticker shows where they were shipped initially.

Why would GM need to do this? Of the 5000 in inventory I would guess that about 3000 are in California. GM is moving about a 1000 Bolt EV’s a month in California which is 3 months of inventory. In the automotive world between 2 to 3 months of inventory is considered ideal. So yes it’s a bit on the high side but nothing to worry about at this time.

This has been my experience. My Bolt was being built this week. Should arrive late june/early july. A few months ago the dealer originally told me late August/September at the earliest for Texas.

So I ain’t complaining! 🙂 Under promise and over deliver is the best way to do business.


Any chance you are in Houston? I would love to see one up close (and not at a dealer).

Nah, Dallas unfortunately.

I know there are a few Dallas area Bolt owners who shipped one here from other states. Maybe there are some in Houston as well.

How about the new $2500 state rebate thing in TX. Will you be able to get that?

I am not sure the details of the program yet.

I have read up on the previous program – from what I understand, that was a grant and that it could be applied to leases as well as purchases from state dealerships.

If the new program works similarly then I should be able to utilize it. (I plan to lease.)

Smart move to get the stock out everywhere ahead of Model 3 volume production.

Anyone getting cold feet or sticker shock on Model 3 can run down the street and pickup the Bolt.

I am sure many people are holding out on the Late July reveal and configurator of Model 3 before pulling the trigger on Bolt. If the initial Model 3 config has a staring price of $50k+, a bunch of Bolts will find homes quickly.

Nissan’s reveal is probably well timed at this point too. Gives them a month to digest what Tesla shows and adjust (price) accordingly.

How sticker shock when the bolt is more expensive than the model 3 for the same features ?

We’re not going to find that out for quite some time. No way Tesla delivers a Model 3 with a feature set comparable to the Bolt any time soon. All will have autopilot and other expensive features bundled. Count on it.

If you can’t buy it, what good is a low theoretical price? By the time you can buy it who is to say the Bolt won’t have dropped in price (or at least gotten standard DCFC, GM you jerks)?

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But this strategy cannot stop Tesla, cause Tesla have no bonds with dealership. It deliver direct to consumer, making it so much faster. By the way, Tesla is anti-Selling Model 3, cause it will not be able to deliver every unit yer reserved until 2019!

No Bolt sold this year will have any effect on Model 3 sales. 2019 Bolt sales could have an impact on Model 3 sales, but not this year or next. My point was out of the 200k+ US Model 3 reservation holders (400k+ world reservations divide by 2 based on Model S uptake), there is some % (20-30?) that want to spend $35k-$40k pre-credit. That will not be the price announced at the end of July. It will be RWD, big battery, with a few features. $40k – $50k is my guess (before credit). You just pick color and wheels if you want to be one of the first owners. There are enough people wanting to being first and lock in the credit to fill production. If you want AWD, ludicrous mode, small battery or base $35k, you will be waiting until December – March to configure. Assuming all goes to plan. My point is with so many people waiting, there are bound to be at least 5k – 10k people that decide they don’t want Model 3 for who knows what reason. GM should be stocked and ready to catch as many of those sales as they can. August… Read more »

I have a Bolt, I have a Model 3 reservation.

What will switch a lot of people from a Model 3 to a Bolt? Lease payments.

If you find out a Model 3 is going to lease for $500/mo and you can get a Bolt lease for < $300/mo that will make quite a few people reconsider.

But we'll see, I'm still looking forward to a Model 3 sitting in my garage next to my Bolt.

Seeing GM’s current lease on the Premier Bolt, tells me Tesla will beat that too. Tesla won’t play any games with the Fed Tax Credit, you’ll get it with no games.

I expect we’ll see much better deals from GM in the coming months. They’ve been trying to milk the early adopters so far, but with inventory deep and soon to be nationwide, GM will increase incentives to move metal.

This is great news! Let’s hope they can also accelerate availability in Europe!

And the rest of the world. The demand for this vehicle is huge.

I can be only on two continents at the same time, so… 😉

True….but I have actually been in three countries at once. And one of those three countries has already had a few hundred Ampera-E deliveries. 🙂

Unfortunately it will take a year before we get any here in the most eastern one of those three countries.

It will probably get there before the Model 3 at least.

But the Leaf 2.0 will most likely be first (or maybe an upgraded BMW i3).

Were you lying spread-eagle where Norway (Ampera-E), Sweden, and Finland meet? That looks to be a tough place to reach!

Yes I were, and took a swim from one country to another but that was pretty cold.

It is fairly easy to get there. Pretty good roads to Kilpisjärvi in Finland and they you could either walk 10-12 km or take a boat across the lake and then walk ~3 km to get there.

Maybe turn-about is fair play? You guys have had the Mitsu Outlander PHEV for years now, and not a one is available in the US. I wouldn’t feel all that bad if you had to wait a little for your Bolt.

(I’m teasing here, in case that wasn’t obvious).

Orders open now: I remember when Canadian orders opened in December. Placed my order then… still waiting.

If you work with a dealer you can know exactly when your order will be placed and thus nearly exactly when it will be filled.

The dealers already know how many slots they have and when. If they put you in a (say) June 20th order then they know the car will come on about July 20th or whatever.

If the dealer just “takes your oder” and doesn’t show you which slot you go on the order sheet then they didn’t really place an order and you have no real idea when you’ll get the car. This is presumably what happened to you in Canada.

I once put down $500 on a car and ‘ordered’ it. After a couple months of waiting and calling 3 or 4 times, I finally found out nobody ordered it. They just figured one like I wanted would show up eventually.

This isn’t an isolated incident. Many Ontarians are in the same boat. I have an order number, so I know the order has been placed. However, my vehicle has yet to be selected for build, meaning I still don’t have a build date or VIN.

May I ask when you ordered?

I’m considering a Bolt, but most dealers told me no more allocation for the year. Then at an auto show I was told “a few months”.

See a couple posts above: I ordered in December. I have also heard 2017 Canadian allocations are all spoken for, and that any orders placed now will be for 2018 models, and take 8-9 months to fill.

The situation here is pretty ridiculous.

My wife and I ordered DEC 06,2016.
Still waiting. Salesman no longer employee.
Spoke with manager He say I am #7 of the Nine allotments for Gateway Chevrolet, Brampton, Ontario.

520 Bolts already delivered in Canada. Bolt is #2 in Canada.

Your order wasn’t really placed on Dec 06 2016. They just took your place in line.

If they didn’t put your car on an order sheet (and show it) it wasn’t really ordered.

Cool. Maybe some inventory will show up at Classic (Grapevine TX) and I can test drive one.

You can test drive one there right now! Fully loaded premier. (I think someone loaned it to the dealer for early test drives. )

I went and gave it a good 20+ minute drive before putting down my deposit and building my order.

Wade is correct.. Classic has had a Bolt available for test drives for at least a few weeks already. I have not personally driven it myself, though.

Keep an ear out if you hear of a Houston dealer with a Bolt to test drive.


Classic Chevrolet already has 7 Bolt EVs listed in AutoTrader. All of these cars already have VINs listed so these are real cars that are going to be delivered soon. One nice bonus is that all these cars are already listed about $1,000 off MSRP.

This is definitely good news. With cars arriving in dealerships in August nationally, and with the industry median time on the lot of around 2 months, we will start seeing what the actual national demand is by around November.

Patience everybody. With the dealer-stock sales model, and sales numbers not being reported until the end of the month, it will take a bit longer for us to see the true full impact of the national rollout.

Since we know Alaska and North Dakota won’t double Bolt sales, what is your projection? Say average nationwide sales monthly?

I’ve been sadly wrong on my predictions for Bolt sales ever since December when I predicted 2K in sales, and each month after that where I’ve predicted Bolt sale would finally break into the 2000’s.

I suppose if I continue to repeat my same failed prediction, eventually I’ll be right….

That’s the spirit!

I was thinking about 2k – 2.5k per month also. But probably won’t start until September. And of course fall off again in January.

Seems about right. I’m thinking 50,000 per year world wide on the top end. That’s about where the Leaf is.

Also with the car available nationwide GM may begin to run their own ads for the car. This will help spur sales too.

Yes, a nice ad campaign and model year end factory cash should be helpful to sales. That’s what they do with their ICE cars, they should treat it just like every other car they sell.

I guess it will depend on how demand is at current incentive levels of $3-4k dealer price cuts. If they can move inventory at that price with no factory cash, then they will do so.

But I think they will need to provide more incentives, and I’m looking forward to the deals available in November, December when the 2018 Bolts are available and they are clearing inventory of the 2017s. Hopefully they will build enough 2017s for this scenario to play out.

IMHO – they moved up the date because they could not move the vehicle in the “friendly” states which made the inventory issue a “non-issue”.

I suspect that is also the case. I’m wondering how long it will take Toyota to fill out the rest of the USA for the Prime. Unlike the Bolt EV, they are selling nearly every one that hits the dealers.

Never if the CARB states keep buying it at this rate.

Toyota has a ton of loyal Prius owners vs who for GM?
A handful of Volt owners and a ton of Cruze owners. Does the average Cruze owners look for an advanced technology car?

No, I don’t think that the Cruze is very good pool of owners likely to buy a Bolt. Volt owners, yes.

The Bolt will be appealing to a lot of Prius owners if the reliability looks good after a year’s data comes in.

I tend to agree. I’m really surprised the Bolt EV hasn’t sold better.

I though range was the main factor holding people back from EVs and the Bolt kills all non-Teslas on range.

I guess I was wrong.

I suspect what we’ll see in other states is an initial surge in purchases from the early adopters and then a similar slow down.

It’s a shame really.

Chevy’s reputation for crappy small cars hurts both Volt and Bolt acceptance. Too bad because they are both solid cars.

With all the cross-state lines sales that have already been happening, I’m not so sure there will be a huge sales bump from hardcore EV enthusiasts. Folks like bro already went to neighboring states to purchase.

Some enthusiasts who are loyal to their local dealer, or didn’t want to pay shipping will provide a bit of a bump as they take the first cars.

But from there, it comes down to the traditional dealership sales model of selling cars already on the lot to people who are interested in an EV but aren’t hardcore enthusiasts desperately waiting to get their hands on a Bolt.

It is hard for us here to fathom, but 90%+ of car buyers still don’t know Bolt exists.

It’s presence on dealer lots is spurring Volt sales, so that tells you how far behind the average car buyer is in adopting BEVs.

Also, Model 3 is sucking up All the oxygen in the EV showroom right now, as everyone holds their breath for it to start production. Expect sales of all EVs to jump after the news cycle of the launch.

Again the un-initiated my discover Bolt/Volt/LEAF/i3 after reading about Model 3.

The Bolt is just too see expensive. Even after rebates and everything a lease will still set you back 1.5x as much as a comparable gas car, and that gas car can drive crosscountry while the Bolt can not.

When is the last time you drove cross country?

Me, about 20 years ago.

Avis and Hertz will be happy to rent you a gas car for your once every 20 years (or even once a year) cross country trip. Personally I prefer to fly than drive cross country.

As for them costing 1.5X as much to lease, that isn’t correct. I think they are cheaper, particularly after you figure in the savings in fuel cost and elimitation of oil changes and other costs. The time savings is even more, zero time spent stopping at gas stations.

Cheapest Corolla lease (Bolt is nicer than a Corolla IMO) is about $210/mo with no ney down . You can get a Bolt for about $250/mo with no money down after the CA rebate.

That isn’t 1.5x

250$/month after CA incentive is like 350$/month before incentive. Not everyone lives in CA.

To me a 200$ ICE compared to 350$ BEV means the BEV is nearly twice as expensive…

Hasn’t been a problem moving them in this friendly state. Most days I see 2 of them out on the roads now.

In NJ I test drove on a Tuesday, signed a contract on Friday and drove out on Monday. Been enjoying it for a month!

Geez, where are the all whiners that complain about GM not wanting to sell more Bolt?

The lack of demand in the highest EV selling state clearly shows that there is a lack of demand for “GM EVs” regardless of how good and well made the car is.

The fact remains that among EV community, a huge % of the buyers are GM haters (for right or the wrong reasons). That has impacted the early sales.

There is plenty of blame to go around. GM really has, pulled out all the stops to make it a big seller.
Sure they made a good car, but what about support? What about a charging network, why not include DCFC? Not as an option. Seats not the best for long drives.

Though, to your point, possibly 50% of people considering an electric car, at least in CA. might not chose the Bolt. But not only because they don’t like GM, also because the Bolt is a city runabout, not a freeway car, plus Californians get the Model 3 first. I think it, The Bolt, will get more traction as it rolls out across the U.S.

The Bolt is a great freeway car.

I’ve driven it 600 miles in about 30 hours (2 DCFCs and an overnight charge) and 400 miles in 23 hours (2 DCFCs, no overnight available and chargers were poorly placed to try to do it in one).

Works great on the freeway. I have no real idea what you are talking about.

” But not only because they don’t like GM, also because the Bolt is a city runabout, not a freeway car,”

You have no idea how many of California thinks of GM in general…

Is that why Toyota and Honda leads in California sales in general?

You would also be surprised to know that some of the people I met at Honda/Toyota VIP drive event in California wouldn’t even touch GM products regardless of how good it is even if it is given to them for free…

..”Not a freeway car”.

Thats nonsense and the person who wrote that is clueless.

I’ve driven FAST a VOLT, ELR, Tesla Roadster, and my BOLT ev at 85 mph. Of the 4 different types of EV’s the BOLT ev is the quietest, and you have to look at the Speedometer to tell how fast you are going, since the car is strangely almost silent – considering other noises such as road and tire noise.

More so than the other 3 by a large factor.

Wow, that’s impressive testimony, beating the ELR in silent highway driving?

I’m shocked they apparently isolated the Bolt cabin so well from wind and tire noise which I would expect to be pretty loud in a small sporty car like the Bolt

Well, put it this way, the ELR at 85 is ‘luxuriously busy’ – not exactly quiet but perfectly enjoyable. Its an artifact of the BOSE noise cancellation thats going on.

The BOLT ev is noisy at low speeds – you constantly hear inverter whine. But at 85 mph the frequency gets high enough that it doesn’t bother me as it does at low speeds, plus the road noise and tire noise drowns it out, at least in my car with my overinflated 45 psi tires.

As others have mentioned, Bolt not a freeway car? That might be true where DCFC is sparse, but certainly not in CA. It will compete well in freeway range against comparably priced Tesla in CA.

In the end, Bolt might end up being more range in freeway (to about 65 MPH). It’s already the most efficient car in US (Ioniq EV is not available due to production issues). Given Tesla’s record of lower efficient drive train, and likely smaller than 60 kWh battery, Bolt might edge out.

Sure, Tesla may get better range above 70 MPH, but most freeway driving is far under 65 MPH on average (or under 12 MPH average in Los Angeles).

It’s not exclusively GM, if it was a Caddy sales would double, it’s Chevy hate…In CA you can buy a new BMW/MB/Audi in base trim for the same price as the Bolt…Tax credit you still have to qualify for it and often those who rent and who are in the market for a $30K-$40K car, cannot itemize…

It isn’t a deduction so itemizing isn’t needed. It is a tax credit.

If you can’t qualify for the full amount, then you shouldn’t buy the car since that is a lot of money.

Since in California, even $90k would have been considered low income in some cities, then it is more than enough for the tax credits.

Lastly, leasing deals in California are running anywhere between $149 to $199/month now on Bolt. What is the excuse?

Lease deals for $149.00? Any idea where in CA specifically, without putting close to $4k down and only getting 10k/yr. miles. Needs to be a Lease with 30 + months to get the full California $2,500.00 state CVRP. 12,000 mile Bolt Leases for 3 years are all over $239.00/ per mo. With LOW $502.00 down payment + T/L/misc. fees

ev-vin shows $175/mo + $2K (minus $2.5K CA rebate = $500 in pocket) for 36 mo lease and $129 +$4K.

Considering average used Leaf has less than 7K miles per year (see used car sites that list miles like autotrader), 10K miles per year is perfectly fine for most people.

You don’t understand the tax credit. You could make zero dollars for the year. pay zero in taxes and still get the $7500 tax credit back as a refund as long as you submitted a tax return. It’s like Congress paid $7500 of taxes onyour behalf.

That is incorrect.

From Google:
“The Qualified Plug-in Electric Drive Motor Vehicle Credit is a non refundable credit. A non refundable credit can reduce your tax liability to 0 (zero), however it cannot result in a refund. … If your tax liability is zero you would not receive the credit at all, even though you are otherwise eligible for it.”

I guess it’s just hard for me to believe that anyone that can afford a new electric vehicle won’t qualify for the full tax credit especially the way the IRS sticks it me.

I have friends that make decent money, but after all the other deductions they have (house, kids, etc) in the end, they didn’t have enough taxable income left to get the full $7,500.

For them, I suggested leasing or buying used so they could get the full amount.

“Tax credit you still have to qualify for it”
Why are people repeating this crap?!
You can lease the car if you don’t want to take the credit and then buy it at the end of the lease if you want the credit up fromt. This is not an issue real people are having.

I’m not so sure that poor Bolt sales in CA can be attributed to too many GM haters. The whole reason why GM has to sell so many EV’s to get so many ZEV credits is because GM sells so many ICE cars in CA.

GM is one of the top selling car companies in CA.

True, but the Silverado guys aren’t cross shopping with Bolt. Toyota/Honda has the lockdown on CA commuter cars.

It’s the price. $37,000 for a “hot hatch” is about $12,000 over it’s ICE competition. Even after the tax credit, if you qualify for the full amount, it’s $~5,000 over the retail price of a Golf GTE … so that’s the figure I have in mind for incentives sufficient to really move the Bolt.

When we are so far away in the calendar from getting the tax credit cashed in, it is less of an incentive right now than it will be in Nov. and Dec. When we have nationwide deep inventory and GM is offering incentives of $5k+, and we are closer to the year end tax incentive season, then we’ll see sales boom.

My wife and I ordered December 06, 2016.

Still waiting. Salesman no longer employed at Gateway Chevrolet Brampton, Ontario.
Spoke with manager. I am #7 of the nine allotments they say they have.

Hey all you Bolt Experts and Enthusiasts:
Is there any chance in Hades that Chevy will offer lease deals that are competitive with the super-low leases being dangled in front of Leafs? Or is it still too damn early in the Bolt life for insane leases…
Thank you all in advance?

In SF Bay Area, some dealers are already advertising $149 to $199 per month leasing deals.

But they both have high down payments, varying from $3000 to $4500.

In that case just say $300/month…

That is the real deal on the average GM Bolt Lease in The Bay Area on 3yr/36k mi. Low/ No Down Payment. Twice the driving range of the Nissan Leaf, twice the price to Lease the Long range leader.

Looking at inventory on west coast, there are dealers offering the Bolt for roughly $5,800 less than MSRP. It’s about time that artificial price inflation was removed.

Now GM needs to pass the full federal tax credit back to lease customers through a cap cost reduction. Once both happen, the Bolt could dominate the EV market in 2017.

I hope they fix the comfort of the front seats or there’s going to be a lot of unhappy people.

Front seat GM Bolt fit and foam thickness issues will compel many Tesla Model 3 waiters to hold their horses for a while longer. That is untill some EV comes out of the blue and gives the Tesla model 3 a run for the money. 2020 or later maybe?

I got mine 2 months ago in Florida from a dealer that trucked some in. Very happy overall with the car!

Chevy Bolt sales to go nationwide in August (1 month earlier than planned).
For what reason? Tesla Model-3 is going on sale in July and just to counter it.

So competition drives. Had Model-3 not been released in July, GM would have made it nationwide by September with BAU.

hmmm… That sounds interesting, but Tesla won’t actually be selling cars nationwide in July. They are going to start with California and then open up other states after that. I’m not sure they will have any deliveries outside of CA before Sept.

I suppose if GM was trying to compete on numbers they might do something like this. But Tesla’s projected 2017 sales targets look to make that tough for GM.

GM might just clock 10K of these things on US roads before the first Model 3 customer delivery.

That’s like a whole week (in 2018) of Model 3 production. No wonder GM is on the Fortune 10, whereas Tesla is just in the Fortune 400.

Tesla is in the Fortune 400 because a lot of “investors” are idiots. Remember when anything with a .Com was worth tend of millions? Moral of the story: don’t base anything on market value.

August should be a record delivery month for the Bolt for sure.

Every month this year should be a record month.

GM is full of it. They “think” they have the inventory to push the plan forward a couple of weeks. But anyone who could see the numbers before end of month ought to have concluded in mid-April it was time to begin rolling out in more markets. And not just the US.

It remains unexplained why GM prefers to build inventory in the US rather than sell cars abroad. There’s huge demand abroad, and the fact that GM could so easily choose to let eager buyers get them rather than insist they should all be in lots in the US, driven by nobody, is incredibly frustrating both for those buyers and for anyone who supports EVs.

Why doesn’t GM want to sell it? Why doesn’t anyone ask them this question? Even EV blogs like this are so hysterically obsessed with not rocking the boat they write as if a company not wanting to sell its product is perfectly normal!

I’m not conversant with the sale, but wouldn’t it be reasonable that it is up to Peugeot-Citroen as to how many Ampera-e’s they want to purchase for their Adam Opel division so as to not overshadow their homegrown EV offerings?

You must reasonably like the car if you prefer the old GM product over your own stuff.

The Peugeot-Citroen situation may explain Europe, but Terawatt’s comment is certainly bang on with regards to the Canadian market.

A 9 month waiting list here, while hundreds of cars sit on California dealer lots just doesn’t make sense.

I know GM doesn’t NEED the ZEV credits, but it sure seems as if they are prioritizing credits over sales.

You know how all the magpies state GM doesn’t want to sell the BOLT ev?

There is only one place they may be right, and that is in CANADA, since the car is so much more well equipped than the USA version, (free $750US, $1000 CAN fast charging), etc. all for a much lower price than in the STATES.

I’m quite sure GM makes money on the BOLT ev, plus their dealers probably get the car for $3000 under the MSRP in the States.

So that is one good reason to me why they don’t want to sell too many in Canada – there they MAY truly lose money since the car has to really cheap for the dealer to take his cut.

That could very well be the case. I didn’t really stop to think about profit margin (or lack there of).

If sales do no really accelerate soon they MIGHT even get beaten by Model 3 for total sales in 2017.

Which would be humiliating.

I think it’d be humiliating for Tesla is Model 3 doesn’t beat the Bolt in 2017. After all, GM is doing its best not to sell the car, and in the US people don’t want it. Tesla on the other hand do want to sell EVs and have so many buyers lined up that the only limiting factor this year is how many they can build. Frankly with their lofty promises of 5000 cars per week before this year is over they should be making 2500 a month on average for six months, and that’s 15,000 vehicles.

Even Tesla fanbois don’t believe the hype though, as is evident every time promises are about to come due.

This autumn should be a thriller.

Ah, I guess it didn’t really take long for someone to come in and pretend GM doesn’t want to sell the car.

Even though they’re rolling out the car to more markets somehow it’s still possible for someone to convince themselves that GM is trying not to sell teh car.


Not bad for a compliance car that GM doesn’t really want to sell…

Yesterday, I spotted a grey Chevy Bolt swiftly gliding over Bromley Mountain here in southern Vermont.

With front-wheel drive and a long-range battery, I think the Bolt will be very popular in New England.

BOlt ev is pretty miserly with its electric usage (one of the most efficient EV’s made to date), but don’t you suffer from ‘confiscatory’ electricity rates of 20-25 cents/ kwh where you live? I don’t understand why Californians don’t revolt what with their unbelievable charges. The SCAM Enron pulled on them a few years ago seems like they just quietly accepted as well. Buffalo sure didn’t – our news media had stories every day the one time in early 2014 when National Grid TRIED to get the public to accept 20 cents per KWH. People started calling their congressmen, and state legislators, etc, and then JUST BY COINCIDENCE OF COURSE, the next month the electricity rate went down to 8 cents / kwh. Cynics might say they did that to quiet the public down. Of course not. But its still working since rates havent been above 10-11 cents/kwh 24/7/365 since. You’d think the average Californian would ask, why am I paying 27 cents, or 40 cents, per kwh, or 12 cents off peak but then 40 for everything else, when all these SMART METERS are supposed to lower my bills? PG&E, SCE, SDG&E are sure printing money… What I pay… Read more »

You don’t know anything about it. The Enron scam was 17 years ago now. And if you think people silently accepted it it’s because you weren’t watching and it’s 17 years later now.

As to the pricing of electricity, California utility bills are normal for the county. Yes, the per kWh pricing is higher but a lot of that money goes into conservation programs that mean you use less energy. And some goes into programs to keep the air clean, for example by promoting electric cars. CARB mandates got EVs off the ground the first time and the second time. You wouldn’t be driving that Bolt if it weren’t for California’s foresight on energy.

And by the way, using the word you used just to describe charging someone more money than you pay is absolutely disgusting. Perhaps you could find another way to make your point?

I pay 12 cents/kwh in California

Try posting something you actually know something about next time

“Try talking about something you know about”.

Well, I’m just getting my rates from your fellow californians.

If those numbers are wrong complain to them, not me.

But since several different californians have mentioned the issue, I’ll trust what they say as opposed to you, no offense.

17 years ago, or just yesterday, the issue stands.

The figures listed incorporate a lot of things, the $0.40 for example is 3rd tier rates when you’ve used a lot of energy in the month. But don’t worry about the rates anyway. Californian energy bills are right in the middle of the pack for the nation. High per kWh but not high in total due to the conservation programs driven by the money taken in on those rates. So you’re drawing the wrong conclusions from the figures you are reading.

And again, on the 17 years ago thing, the issue does not stand. You’re wrong. People didn’t silently accept it then or now. You’re just not paying attention and think since you didn’t see something it didn’t happen.

Well, people in Los Angeles may have decent rates, but just stomping your feet and saying “you’re wrong!” is the bigger joke. Its you who has the poor memory. USA Today did an article over a decade ago of a typical middle class family doing typical middle class things paying around $10,000 or over per year for electricity. If California had ‘average rates’ it wouldn’t have been newsworthy nationwide. In my area the same usage would have cost $2500. But now, complacency I’m sure has settled in, but there are at least a minority of Californians who don’t like it. To reiterate, I’m not discussing this point with people who just like to argue about trifles, I’m merely agreeing with what some other Californians have already said. You constantly bring up ridiculous things, like saying “There was no booklet attached to my Bolt’s precision shift system”, as if I’m not telling the truth. It merely means the salesman removed it from your individual car. Like who cares what was done in your car. Leaf Brian and Clarkson Cote can verify my car had the booklet. It’s too difficult to remove so on my car it is still attached. It is… Read more »