All-New Long-Range Electric Renault Zoe Spied: Looks Familiar

MAR 17 2019 BY ANTHONY KARR 18

Should be significantly more powerful though.

Seen here is a heavily masked prototype of the all-electric car undergoing cold winter evaluations in Northern Europe. Interestingly, the shape of the trial car is almost completely identical to the Renault Zoe that’s still on sale today. The camouflage is not letting us see many details of the body, but it appears that the EV will be slightly larger than its predecessor.

The resemblance to the current Zoe is especially striking at the back where even the light clusters seem to have an identical shape. Up front, we notice a larger Renault logo flanked by sleeker headlights probably using LED technology. Of course, at this early stage of testing, some of our assumptions might not be completely correct.

Initial details about the powertrain of the new Zoe suggest it will receive a 50-kWh battery pack providing a range of roughly 249 miles (400 kilometers) between two charges measured by the new WLTP cycle. A significant improvement on charging capabilities should come courtesy of a new 100-kW CCS2 fast charging technology.

No power and performance figures are known at the moment but we expect the peak output to be somewhere in the region of 150 hp (112 kW), up by more than 40 hp (30 kW) from today’s figures. In terms of safety, the Zoe is likely getting an array of assist systems that should help it retain its five-star rating from Euro NCAP and receive a Level 2 of autonomy label.

Word on the street is the new Zoe will be revealed before the year’s end with sales to kick off early next year.

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The Zoe II will have the same platform as the Clio fifth generation just presented at Geneva auto show.
I heard that the interior will be more like the Clio V. The Zoe II have to compete with the e208, so the interior have to be improved.
I hope that the battery will have ~55kWh usable, to reach ~400km WLTP. And with just 50kWh the Zoe II will just have ~370km range.
I hope the actual Nissan Micra will also have an all electric version at its mid life (2021). The Clio and the Micra share the same platform.

My bet with all the info what I could read in Europe, is that this will be not a Zoe 2, just a Zoe 1,5. The platform will be same as current. Some changes as the wheels with 5 bolts are because they will took the axes from Dacia Duster (wider, rigid…?) for better riding quality. Interior will be replaced and upgraded a lot. I hope it could be same good vibes than new Clio V. Battery and electric will be upgraded too. Improved efficiency, 100 kw charging and maybe, more battery capacity. More affordable. New tehnological equipment. Exterior modified in front and rear LED lights, grill and bumpers. Same panels, roof, doors and bonet.

The exterior will have some change, but people seem to like the look of the Zoe, Renault won’t change that much. Renault used to change the look of their Clio for every new generation. But actually people like very much the look of the Clio IV and the Zoe, Renault will change very little. The underneath of the Zoe II, in the other hand will receive a big change. The sarcophagus of the battery will be bigger, to receive more cells. So the platform will be modified subsequently to. The rear end will be a different one, I hope it will be as good as the Kona rear end. The biggest issue of the actual Zoe is the interior. The Clio V will have a much better interior. If Renault won’t improve the interior of the Zoe II, they gonna let Peugeot win the comparison. In 2010 the kWh of battery cell costed ~800$, now the kWh is ~125$. Renault can’t propose a Zoe II at ~35,000€, without a better interior. All in all, the exterior maybe very look alike the actual Zoe, but everything else will receive a substantial change or improvement. Ten years ago BEV are very few,… Read more »

I’m not sure if the battery will be larger in volume, ot only in density. About Clio V, haven’t you seen it yet?.

https://group.renault.com/en/news/blog-renault/the-all-new-renault-clio-sparks-an-interior-revolution/

I hope Renault upgrade the Zoe at a similar level and I expect a better price. If VW is planning to sell its ID from 24.000 €, all EVs in Europe must relocate their tariffs.

“50-kWh battery pack”

According to EV-database battery will be 216 MJ (60 kWh) and motor 95 kW.

https://ev-database.org/car/1164/Renault-Zoe-Gen-2

I will be impressed if they manage 100 kW charging, but if Zoe 2 can do charging 10-80% SOC at 80 kW that would be great.

I hope that the ground clearance will increase from the actual value by 12 cm…

I’ll only consider an EV when it’ll have 120kWh battery, good enough for 600km range

You’ll probably have a _very_ long wait until an electric B-Segment car (which is what the Clio & Zoé are) has that much range…

Again, Europe gets the best while the US gets sloppy Thirds….

Does cars in this size sell well in US? The Zoe is about same size as Ford Fiesta.

I have a feeling the Zoe is quite a bit smaller than the Fiesta ended up being.

I drove this car and is valid for four adults and some luggage. And I’m a big guy. Is 4,08 m long, Fiesta in Europe is 4,04-4,06 m long. Zoe has a boot with 338 liters, Fiesta has 293-303.

Yes, they’re both B-Segment cars; there are very few such cars sold in the US, and I think 5-6 models (Fiesta, Honda Jazz/Fit, Fiat 500, MINI, Chevy Spark).

I hope the Zoe 2 has a “high voltage” class 400 V battery like Jaguar I-Pace and Audi E-Tron with 108 cells nominal ~400 V, max ~450 V.

High voltage battery makes it easier to charge faster with less waste heat.

IMO unlikely… The high voltage systems will probably be used primarily on larger (75kWh+) batteries.

There is no reason they can not do it for a smaller battery. What is important is that the motor is designed for the higher voltage, but we do know that they change the motor.

The current Zoe battery is 96 celles in series, a standard nominal ~360 V, max voltage 403 V. The 96 cells are in 12 modules of each 8 batteries. If they used the same cells again, but made a battery with 14 modules, there would be 112 cells in series, nominal voltage ~414 V, max voltage 470 V. Still well below the 480-500 V limit of CCS DC.

So with same cells you would have (112 / 96 = ) 16.7% more capacity. They can then charge 16.7% faster without any additional waste heat.

Multiples of 108 cells make the most sense at the moment: Nominal voltage of 400V or 800V, maximum of 460V or 920V which is the limit of several new chargers (e.g. the Tritium 350kW ones). Also, you can divide an 108 cell battery into packs of 6, 9, 12 or 18 cells for easy packaging in the vehicle. Multiples of 96 as used by most manufacturers has the same packing advantange.

“maximum of 460V or 920V”

Can you point to the max 460 V DC output of the Tritium charger? They are not stating anything about this in their data sheet.

ABB, ADS-Tec, Efacec, Ensto, EVTec, EVTronic, Hypercharger, Schneider… they all has 500 V DC max or they go way higher.

Even if the charger would be limited at 460 V DC, it would not be a problem because when you HPC DC charge you would not charge all the way to 100 % SOC.

The reason for Renault to use the 112 cells (14 modules), would be to use the existing modules (voltage and cells count). Alternatively they could chose to have 13 modules = 8 * 13 = 104 cells in series. Or like you say they could use a different with 9 cells, so 9 * 12 = 108 cells in series like Jaguar and Audi. Whichever way the higher voltage is a simple way to avoid waste heat.