2019 Kia Niro EV Now Displayed On U.S. Kia Site


The crossover should arrive late 2018.

We’ve known that Kia would produce the Niro EV almost a year before it appeared in concept form at the Consumer Electronics Show this past January. Still, we haven’t heard anything about the Korean automaker’s plan to bring the compact crossover to the U.S. market. Until now.

There still hasn’t been any official announcement but thanks to a VTLeaf, a sharp-eyed InsideEVs Forum member, we’ve learned that the U.S. Kia retail site now features the all-electric under its “Upcoming Vehicles” section, where it’s labeled as a 2019 model. And that’s not all.  Clicking on a link to disclaimers brings us the following information.

1. Expected availability winter 2018 in select markets in limited quantities.

2. Final EPA estimates will be released closer to Niro EV’s on-sale date. Actual range will vary with options, driving conditions, driving habits, vehicle maintenance, charging practice, battery age, weather, temperature and your vehicle’s condition. Battery capacity will decrease with time and use. For more information on range, please see www.fueleconomy.govOpens a New Window..

3. Pre-production model shown with optional features. Not all optional features are available on all trims. Production model may vary.

Basically, we’re told not to expect deliveries to happen until late in the year, and then it seems highly likely it will only be available to customers, initially at least, who happen to live in California, and possibly some other so-called CARB states. It also warns that the number of units headed to us from Korea is likely to be low.

No doubt this is somewhat frustrating to would-be buyers in crossover-crazy America. So far, the Chevy Bolt is as close to a crossover as one can find until the Jaguar I-Pace begins shipping. Somewhat ironically, when it finally does arrive its biggest competitor is likely to be its Hyundai Kona Electric cousin.  Despite being a pinch smaller, it shares the same underpinnings and drivetrain. Like the Niro, though, we don’t expect to see high volumes shipped to our shores for some time, so there shouldn’t be any friction between the co-joined brands.

Source: InsideEVs Forum

H/T to VTLeaf

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26 Comments on "2019 Kia Niro EV Now Displayed On U.S. Kia Site"

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Just like the Soul EV, Kia is showing it’s not serious about the US EV market.

Too bad, because I have 2 Kias in my driveway now and really liked the Niro I test-drove, hoping to get a Niro EV someday. Hopefully the Volvo XC40 EV won’t also be a compliance car.

Unfortunately, every BEV (not a Tesla) currently sold in the U.S. is sold in compliance numbers.* This goes for the Bolt, also. Including the major automakers, no EV slated for production through model year 2020 will be of any consequence as to production numbers. Sure, GM claims that Bolt production “is increasing,” but not even a production goal has been provided.

This means that the Volvo, Jaguar, Kia, Hyundai, Honda, Ford, etc. BEVs will continue to be produced in low numbers. Why, you ask? Because battery production is not only limited by the few available suppliers, but the cost of the batteries means that there is little incentive to produce more EVs. Why lose money on an EV, when more profit is available with ICE production?

*Compliance numbers being less than 30,000 units a year.

Nobody is losing money on BEV. Heck they sell their BEVs twice or more the regular version! (Not because they are really expensive, because they DON’T want to sell many)

It’s the hen and the egg, and they know it very well. Economy of scale 101.
If produced in sufficient numbers, the price would go down fast.
Little Tesla prove it to the world. ICE car makers are sitting on their hands, doing compliance and greewashing only.

Battery shortage is also B.S. Ant given large corporation plan their supplies 5-10 years ahead. If there is not enough battery now, It’s because they didn’t order what would have been necessary to compete. But they just don’t want to make good affordable BEVs, killing their environmentally criminal profits..

No car maker is finishing the design of their cars 5-10 years in advance. They can’t order the cells before that.

What’s more, regardless of whether they *want* to sell EVs or not, clearly most OEMs have ordered too few batteries, as they grossly underestimated demand growth.

(Your argument is self-contradictory BTW: if legacy OEMs could sell BEVs at a profit, selling them wouldn’t kill their profits…)

“Compliance car” is defined by (lack of) ready availability across markets, not by absolute production numbers. The LEAF for example didn’t sell terribly well in he U.S. in recent years; but that was due to missing demand, not limited supply. It’s not a compliance car; and neither does it look like the I-Pace will be.

(Most of the others you mentioned certainly do fall into this category, though. Can’t say yet about the upcoming Volvo.)

Meanwhile, Tesla can quietly take over the world, because it doesn’t have all the political burocracy to deal with. Chevy has no desire to sell 30,000 Bolts each year, because it competes with their own ICE vehicles which earn huge profits. Other car makers face the same political stranglehold.

Shocking! I have never been more shocked in my entire life!
Is it 2020 now? LOL.
I don’t get this delay, it was just a handful of cars they were going to sell anyway.

20,000 I think is what they said they were going to sell in 2018 which is not bad for coming out in the 2nd half of 2018.

The key here is “limited quantities”. It will be available late 2018 but no one will buy it because there will be none available to sell, just like the Ioniq EV. To me this is just another Faraday Future or Lucid Air.

Exactly. Ioniq EV would easily top the sales chart with it’s low-cost and high-efficiency, if Hyundai would just start producing many more of them…

In the non-CA US the Niro EV has much better chances of becoming a commercial success than the electric Ioniq. The Ioniq’s range is embarrassingly short for 2018, and it’s lower than the Accent subcompact, while American drivers prefer tall vehicles. The Niro does not have these problems.

They could certainly sell more of them — but that only pays off if they can achieve a positive gross margin at the regular selling price… Otherwise, it only makes sense as a compliance car, i.e. any sales outside of ZEV markets (or even in ZEV markets above the required quota) actually loses them money.

The US is just one of many markets. The Ioniq EV is sold any many markets worldwide. In Europe it sold about 3833 units so far this year which is about 70 more than the Model X sold. I wouldn’t compare a car company like Hyundai to companies like Faraday and Lucid.

It’s pathetic number, they could easily sell ten times more here in Europe…

They could — but they are only interested in selling as many as they need to achieve the EU-mandated fleet average fuel consumption. Anything above that just loses them money. That’s the nature of compliance cars.

So a car selling for $30,000 to $40,000 sold 70 more than an SUV selling for $110,000 to $150,000? Shocking!

Any idea about this coming to Canada? I’m hoping I can either buy this or an extended range leaf in 2019.

None yet. It will likely get mentioned On the Forum if it happens. We have a fair number of Canadian members who are on top of things.

I’m curious: why would you consider such different form factors as the LEAF or the Niro, but not the Model 3?…

Because it is a salon and certainly too big for my drive. Anyway, I am concerned about reliability, to say nothing about availability.

“The crossover should arrive late 2018.”

To a Compliance States only

M3 Owned- Niro EV TBD - Former 500e and Spark EV

Looking forward to its arrival. A crossover with a trunk finally.

For those complaining about CARB states, come on over to enjoy our sunshine tax too. Wouldn’t even have these compliance cars without ZEV

I wanted to get one, or a 60kWh Leaf, but I fear supply will be too tight to be able to get any below-invoice deals.

With all the rebates I get, my 40kWh Leaf will cost $5000 more than the buyout on my 2015 . . . almost a no-brainer.

Like me, go for it. keep your 24/30 kWh for now and bide your time to see what the earlier adopters think of the/any new Leaf.

I could be very interested if this came to NJ, so I signed up for updates to at least show Kia I’m interested.

Me too.