Scania Unveils Citywide All-Electric Bus, On Sale In 2018

NOV 8 2017 BY MARK KANE 24

Scania has unveiled its first all-electric bus, the Citywide LF from the 2017 Busworld event in Kortrijk, Belgium.  The new offering will apparently also go on sale next year.

Word of caution:  Try to not let the excitement of the video above temp you to start your own ebus company, as the passion of the company on the project is evident.

Scania Citywide LF fully electric

In the coming months, Scania envisions trials throughout Europe, where electric buses are rapidly gaining in popularity.

The 12-meter long, Citywide LF will be equipped with the roof fast charging – OppCharge. This system needs to be active during operation, as Scania prefers to employ a smaller battery pack, so as to not decrease the passenger capacity of the bus (although we suspect, in the end it has more to do with keeping production costs lower).

While there is not many details at this time, Scania said that the electric bus was developed all in-house.

As Scania is part of Volkswagen Group, it’s expected that we will see more electric buses in the future.

Scania Citywide LF fully electric

Scania Citywide LF fully electric

Scania Citywide LF fully electric

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24 Comments on "Scania Unveils Citywide All-Electric Bus, On Sale In 2018"

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Yogurt

Oh no….
More VW vaporware comments to follow…

Micke Larsson

Well… even though VW are the owners Scania is a Swedish company with Swedish values so it is not part of German ruling, vaporware and anti-environment attitudes.

Dan

Lol. If by Swedish values, you’re talking about how messed up the Saabs (the original all Swedish ones) I used to drive were, it’s probably a good thing that all the Swedish makes are now either under Chinese or German control.

Apkungen

You were probably unlucky. One Saabs and old Volvos are pretty much the only old cars still on the road in Sweden. All the other cars have broken down ages ago :p

Dan

oh, I get it. They were the most amazing brands with the most amazing technology, with the most amazing engineers. That’s why nobody bought them. Saab didn’t go out of business because of bad luck – nobody outside Sweden would buy those cars.

Mr EV

They had car company owners that didn’t invest so much in their future plans for new car models.
I wish Nevs all the best.

Here are photos from the new factory, the production will start soon(link).

John Doe

The steel quality of a Volvo and SAAB was WAY better then many brands.
Take Mazda from the same time period. Engines and the mechanics of the cars was really high quality, but the cars were rust buckets, and would be scrapped about 8 years sooner then the average swedish car. Toyota from the same period was slightly better protected against rust.

Also.. a domestic brand will usually have better access to cheaper parts, and could be changed quickly.

I had a Volvo and I drove over 890 000km with it, and the engine had not been replaces, not even the clutch. Rust in the front suspension mounting bracket was the reason I scrapped it. That was due to a battery had leaked acid and caused corrotion (previous owner).

john doe

The average Volvo is 21 years old when it is recycled in Norway. Many brands last about half of that..
SAAB used to last long too, but not that long.

Btw.. SCANIA would be owned by Volvo – if the EU had not complained.
That is why Volvo sold the car division, in order to get enough money to but Scania. Then the EU messed it up.
Scania and Volvo makes really good trucks and buses.
I find it strange that VW that owns MAN could by Scania without EU complaining. .

GSP

I call BS on that one. I have owned a 1996 SAAB 900SE Turbo since it was new and it has been a wonderful car to own and drive.

GSP

Dan

Exactly my point. Your 1996 Saab 900 was also called the 900 NG (New Generation) and was rebuilt from scratch on GM’s 2900 platform. Its reliability and performance were both magnitudes better than the original pre-1994 Swedish Saabs.

John Doe

SAAB were just more engineered GM models. Quality was in general OK, they lasted at least a long time.
Really good seats.
They were too small to be on their own, and with GM they got a number of parts that could have been better of course. Chassis were durable. I think they lasted about 19 years before they were scrapped on average in Norway. Volvo lasted 20 years and Meredes lasted about 21 just to compare.
Some brands laster 6-7 years..

Volvo cars was sold to Ford, to get enough money to buy SAAB Scania (the truck and bus company), but the EU said Volvo would be to big. It would prevent competition and so on..
So VW could buy Scania, because VW is so small /s I really don’t understand that logic.
VW ownes MAN, and a number of other companies so I really don’t think there would be a problem with Volvo buying SAAB Scania.

SAAB cars got an offer to be bought by Koenigsegg and their owners – but GM waited too long to say yes. That was a mistake as well.

Jim J Fox

‘Vaporware is software or hardware that is announced publicly and actively promoted by a vendor even though it does not yet exist’.

So the “bus” we see in the video is a virtual reality model??? Why can’t I be as expert as you?

“Moving people, changing minds”– but not your mind, it seems.

Ben

People like you are poison to the development of EVs, you just drop by to leave a stupid comment. Stop crying and go out to change the world by yourself like these engineers do. But i bet you won’t do that. Too lazy for that.

You can buy the hybrid version of this bus since a few years. Obviously in the industry there is a huge move towards shift to EVs as European cities do not allow anything else anymore. The same is for the other cars OEMs published in the last few years. Sure not every concept will reach the market. But it is obvious a lot EVs will do it. If you can not accept that an american EV company will only be one of many in a short time, just say it, but don’t poison this whole platform.

Can you tell me what value your “vaporware” comment has to us, this platform or this topic?

I just can not read this stupid fanboy stuff anymore, no matter if its pro or contra.

Yogurt

Sorry to offend you but lighten up…
You are 100 percwnt correct that my comment has no value other than my own person amusement at the fan boys you accuse me of being…
I have and still annoying read comments where any metion of VW or concept cars or production plans in 2020 are all vaporware…
And there is a 50 50 chance VW will be producing more EVs in a couple years than Tesla…

Ben

If you want to amuse yourself, go to a childrens playground and build a sandcastle… This platform is not for your own amusement.

Apkungen

This is awesome! I think the market woop explode in this direction if Scania has the possibility to produce!

Apkungen

Who needs several hundreds of kwh in a city bus any way? It’s not environmentally friendly to drive around with a battery that big and with a bus you can charge at the end stations for a couple of minutes any way! This is definitly the best sustainable solution!

Leaf2012

Still it is lot more environmentally and human friendly to drive around with a big battery in a bus instead of a big diesel engine blowing toxic exhaust in peoples faces the whole day.

With more charging stations the bus can get away with smaller battery, but in the beginning it would be smart with big batteries as one wouldnt get so much trouble if one or a few chargers were not finished building or had problems working.

Apkungen

BTW, is this irony?:
Word of caution: Try to not let the excitement of the video above temp you to start your own ebus company, as the passion of the company on the project is evident.

(not all the people in the world are as loud, fake and annoying S Americans you know ;))

Jim J Fox

Irony, of course! Swedes & other Scandinavians are not renowned for their exuberance… or sense of humor.

Martin Winlow

Anyone know how long the typical ‘opportunity charge’ takes?

Leaf2012

It connects and disconnects in a few seconds. You are not supposed to wait for charging, it just charges with up to 450 kW while the bus is waiting for passengers to get on or off, or if it is ahead of its schedule. Those chargers would be installed either on end stops of the route where the bus waits a few minutes anyway, or in the central stops where many buses pass by and the charger can serve lots of buses, or both.

eltosho

Having to install chargers at every stop will probably make the bus costlier to operate and not much more practical than a Trolleybus.

wavelet

I don’t think they need a charger at every stop. This works like ABB’s opportunistic Flash Charging (charging 400-600kW for a 20-25kWh battery), so they need to charge every 4th or 5th stop.

Ones multiple routes have this, you set it up so multiple routes use the same charging stops, amortizing the charger costs further.

The economics depend of course on the exact details, but they claim that the lower weight & cost of the bus, plus eliminating the need for a multi-hour recharge session at the depot, more than compensate for the overhead charger cost.