Hyundai Debuts 497-Mile Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept

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Hyundai Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept

Hyundai Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept can do 497+ miles on hydrogen

Foretells Hyundai’s next-generation fuel cell technology due in 2018.

Hyundai is attending the 2017 Geneva Motor Show with a bold-looking concept providing a glimpse of the company’s thoroughly upgraded fuel cell system. Compared to the current Tucson ix35 Fuel Cell, the new hardware is not only 20 percent lighter, but it also boost efficiency by 10 percent and comes with a 30 percent higher power density for the fuel stack. Range anxiety shouldn’t pose a problem anymore considering Hyundai says the concept has been engineered to cover more than 497 miles (800 kilometers) on hydrogen.

An ace up the concept’s sleeve is the inclusion of portable battery packs, which will come in handy for those inside the minimalist cabin to power their devices, such as tablets and smartphones. In addition, the trunk of the Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept has a built-in storage space for an electric scooter recharged in its own port while the vehicle is in motion. It can be used later on to tackle a crowded urban area where cars get stuck in the heavy traffic very often.

Hyundai Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept

In a bid to further strengthen the concept’s eco-friendly image, Hyundai has fitted the cabin with an air humidifier responsible for recycling the water emitted by the hydrogen energy circulation to make the cabin air cleaner.

Hyundai points out the showcar in Geneva is more than just a technology demonstrator since the concept’s design will actually influence a production model scheduled to come out in 2018. Aside from boasting an unprecedented range for a hydrogen-powered model, the yet unnamed car is going to take advantage of the company’s latest crop of driver assistance systems part of the “Hyundai Smart Sense” array of driver’s aids.

Hyundai Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept

From what we know so far from Hyundai, the model is going to take the shape of an all-new crossover riding on a new platform. It is believed the official premiere is scheduled to occur at the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang, South Korea.

Press release below:

HYUNDAI MOTOR REVEALS NEXT GENERATION FUEL CELL CONCEPT AT 2017 GENEVA MOTOR SHOW

  • Hyundai Motor showcases future vision for zero-emission mobility
  • Latest hydrogen fuel cell technology delivers evolved performance and efficiency
  • Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept hints at next phase of Hyundai Motor’s eco-vehicle program

Geneva Motor Show, 07 March 2017 – Hyundai Motor today unveiled its futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept that looks ahead to the next generation of hydrogen-powered vehicles. Having established itself as a global leader for hydrogen transportation, the company has reaffirmed its commitment to fuel cell vehicle development at the Geneva Motor Show 2017. The FE Fuel Cell Concept represents the next step for Hyundai Motor toward realizing its ultimate ambition of creating a zero-emission Hydrogen Energy Society.

In early 2017 at the Davos World Economic Forum, Hyundai Motor Company joined the launch of the Hydrogen Council, a global initiative to promote the development and commercialization of fuel cell cars as an alternative to fossil fuel vehicles. This follows two decades at the forefront of hydrogen vehicle development, most recently with the ix35 Fuel Cell (Tucson Fuel Cell in some markets), which in 2013 became the world’s first mass-produced hydrogen-powered vehicle, and is currently on sale in 17 countries around the world.

Woong Chul Yang, Vice Chairman of Hyundai Motor Company, said: “Hyundai Motor has a heritage of building innovative, fuel-efficient vehicles that advance the automotive industry’s environmental progress. Our FE Fuel Cell Concept is an important evolution of our pioneering hydrogen leadership, and moves us closer to our vision for a ‘Hydrogen Society’, where transportation is clean, efficient and enhances the lives of our customers.”

The FE Fuel Cell Concept continues Hyundai Motor’s commitment to fuel cell vehicle development and is part of the company’s eco-vehicle program that will see 14 or more new environmentally-focused models introduced by 2020. Spurred on by greater global demand for fuel-efficient, eco-friendly vehicles, the program continues the example of innovation set by IONIQ, the first car to offer a choice of three electrified powertrains in a single body type.

The FE Fuel Cell Concept’s flowing form is inspired by nature and water – the car’s only emission – with the clean and calm design emphasizing its non-polluting nature. Across the car, form follows function to deliver a minimalist style. Exemplifying this approach, the FE Concept features a dramatic and stylish rear air foil and integrated vents that provide aerodynamic efficiency through intelligent engineering.

The concept’s name ‘FE’ stands for Future Eco, reflecting the innovative new technologies that complement the car’s eco-friendliness – a recognition of its unique fuel source. One of the most notable characteristics of the new concept is its internal air humidifier, which recycles water emitted by the car’s clean hydrogen energy circulation to create a more comfortable cabin environment.

The FE Concept showcases Hyundai Motor’s fourth generation of hydrogen fuel cell technology, an evolution of research, development and real-world evaluation programs around the world. When compared with the current generation system used in the Tucson ix35 Fuel Cell, the new technology is 20% lighter, and achieves 10% greater efficiency. In addition, the power density of the fuel cell stack is increased by 30%, boosting the car’s range significantly.

As another reinforcement of the car’s eco-credentials and focus on customer convenience, the FE Concept features portable battery packs – charged by the car’s energy output – to power passenger devices. Meanwhile, the trunk features an integrated storage and charging space for an electric scooter, demonstrating how Hyundai Motor is developing mobility solutions to match future lifestyles.

The new concept car is more than simply beautiful and innovative; it is highly capable too. The car is designed to run for more than 800 kilometers between refueling, acknowledging the current limited hydrogen infrastructure. Elements of the FE Fuel Cell Concept will influence an SUV Fuel Cell model set for launch in 2018, which will feature advanced ‘Hyundai Smart Sense’ driver assistance technologies, alongside an extensive hydrogen-powered range

Source: Hyundai

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55 responses to "Hyundai Debuts 497-Mile Futuristic FE Fuel Cell Concept"

  1. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sven says:

    I like the idea of “portable battery packs.”

    1. John says:

      I’ve got two of them in my Volt. They’re very handy. They automatically recharge when they’re in my console and the car is on. When we go hiking or to the beach, they’re charged up and ready to go.

      Ahem:
      https://www.amazon.com/Anker-PowerCore-Portable-Double-Speed-Recharging/dp/B01JIWQPMW

      1. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯sven says:

        I was thinking of something bigger with much more capacity.

  2. R.S says:

    I really don’t have anything about FCVs, but they actually need to sell them affordably and come up with a refueling infrastructure.

    The range would surely be great, but a bit much. The Mirai already sacrifices too much space for the fuel tanks. Although they are probably quoting NEFZ here, since Geneva is in Europe.

    1. SJC says:

      Reform bio fuel to hydrogen on board.

      1. Eco says:

        Reform ANY hydrocarbon fuel to H2 on board including gasoline or diesel…

        1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

          Reforming is completely unnecessary and introduces some minor emissions.
          There is little point to generate H2 from solar/wind, synthesize hydrocarbons and then reform it back into H2 on site/in car. Pure H2 works just fine.

          1. SJC says:

            Mercedes reformed methanol for NECAR twenty years ago. Renewable methanol can be made, the overall efficiency is about the same EVs powered by coal fired power plants without the fossil carbon.

            1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

              Methanol is highly toxic.

        2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Right. Reforming a practical fuel, including gasoline, diesel, or even synthetic methane, onboard a FCEV could turn it from a fool cell car into something practical. That’s something which they’re in no danger of ever becoming so long as they’re powered by H2 fuel!

          Only a Laws of Physics denying Big Oil shill would ever argue otherwise.

          1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

            Big oil & Tesla shill Pu-pu pumps fossil fuel again. Give up your fossils, they are dead.

      2. speculawyer says:

        Yeah, people tried to do that for years. No one got it to work.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Couldn’t get it to work? Wut?

          Heck, according to the article linked below, cars converted to run off an onboard wood gas reformer actually became commonplace in Europe during WW II, due to a shortage of petroleum.

          I wouldn’t claim it could ever be competitive with gasoline or diesel, but it’s certainly more practical than trying to power a car with compressed hydrogen gas!

          http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html

    2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      This one expected to sell much cheaper than Tucson FC.
      Honda & Toyota already leases their products relatively affordably if you are in California, below $400/month including fuel and options.
      Infrastructure will improve over time too.

      1. Dav8or says:

        Yes, but those leases are at a substantial loss to Hyundai. They do them to get the tech out there, learn, improve and hopefully get people to like it. If any of these companies were to only sell the fuel cell cars and at a profit, virtually no one would buy them now.

        1. You don’t think Hyundai isn’t making hydrogen cars for regulatory reasons?

          Just “getting them out there”?

          1. I think I have a double-negative up there and since we can’t edit these posts, I guess it is what it is 😉

          2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            I think that if Japan phases out its obscenely high subsidies for fool cell cars — up to nearly $20,000 per car! — that auto makers would quit making FCEVs so fast it would make your head spin.

            http://insideevs.com/japanese-government-offer-20000-subsidy-fuel-cell-vehicle-purchases/

        2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

          Creating new car platform, and especially new alternative technology costs billions of dollars. Few millions in losses or profits selling few hundreds or thousands of pilot production cars are “mouse nuts” anyway.

          See the Figure 2 graph show dependence of FC system cost on production level:
          https://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/pdfs/16020_fuel_cell_system_cost_2016.pdf
          $53/kW FC system cost is projected now and the achievable future target is $30/kW that makes it cost competitive with ICE. This is why automakers invest into FC development, not because some mouse nuts from temporary subsidies.

  3. SparkEV says:

    All of these fuel cell stuff are ignoring the cost. If they’re not more value than gas, they won’t take. So far, FC is many times more expensive for worse experience compared to gas, not to mention EV.

    Show me the money!

    1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      Obviously you will see it with time. Nobody would be investing billions just for show concepts and limited low volume pilot production.
      Spark EV is far from cheapest car for sale either, but it is good enough in some places for some people.

      1. SparkEV says:

        Electricity for BEV has been cheaper than gasoline from the very beginning. Looking at all the cheapskates who use free charging, it was probably one of the biggest motivators.

        SparkEV is (was) the lowest cost vehicle in terms of acceleration and efficiency. There’s no gas car under $20K that gets 0-60 MPH in 7.2 sec and 119 MPGe (EPA), 140 MPGe at 70 MPH (constant speed), 60 MPGe$ when only using public chargers when gas is $2.70/gal.

        OTOH, what value does FCEV bring to the table compared to gas cars? It’s less convenient and more expensive and lot slower. I don’t see why one would choose FCEV that has no benefit over a gas car. Quite literally, FCEV brings zero benefit. Then you can’t scale to bring the cost down.

        1. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯sven says:

          “Then you can’t scale to bring the cost down.”

          Yes you can.

          Just the other day, Air Products announced that its network of hydrogen stations in California are now selling hydrogen for under $10 per kilogram. “Advancements in fueling technology and a greater volume of vehicles now using the stations were important factors in allowing the pricing move to less than $10 per hydrogen kilogram ($9.99/kg).”
          http://www.airproducts.com/Company/news-center/2017/03/0306-air-products-california-fueling-stations-offering-hydrogen-below-%2410-per-kilogram.aspx

          Last year NEL open announced plans to open a factory to mass produce hydrogen fueling stations. A few weeks ago NEL was awarded contracts by Shell and Toyota to build seven stations in California, and by H2 Frontier to build one station in Los Angeles.

          http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20160403005078/en/NEL-ASA-Developing-World%c2%b4s-Largest-Factory-Hydrogen

          1. SparkEV says:

            I’m skeptical of this. We have less than a thousand FCEV, and that’s enough to bring the price down from ~$15/kg to $10/kg? It’s not like H wasn’t used at all before.

            But even if it does get as cheap as gasoline (~$3/kg), that still doesn’t address why anyone would choose FCEV since it’s still less convenient than gasoline cars.

            1. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ sven says:

              For the record, the over 1,000 Mirais were bought in 2016 alone (1,034 cars sold). In the U.S., the sales numbers are 1,299 Mirai, dozens of prior generaton Clarity, 77 current generation Clarity since December, and an untold number of Hyundai Tuscon HFCVs, likely dozens. 😉

              http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2015/09/toyota-mirai-sales-figures-usa-canada-monthly-yearly.html

              http://www.goodcarbadcar.net/2016/11/honda-fcx-sales-figures-usa-yearly-monthly.html

        2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

          SparkEV:
          “why one would choose FCEV that has no benefit over a gas car”

          It is quite obvious, zero tailpipe emissions and 100% electric drive. Should I even talk about it on EV forum???

          You should not project your personal situation, access to cheap electricity, parking, whatever, and assume all the world is exactly the same as you. A billion of people in Chinese cities for example live in multi-store buildings and typically don’t have any access to electrified parking for cheap. In Germany for example residential electricity is around 0.30 EUR/kWh and highway speeds are often unlimited.

      2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        zzzzzzzzzz said:

        “Nobody would be investing billions just for show concepts and limited low volume pilot production.”

        We’re still waiting for you fool cell fanboys to explain what kind of magic is gonna be used to change the basic physical properties of an element, hydrogen.

        And waiting… and waiting…

        Meanwhile, batteries keep improving every year.

        1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

          Pu-pu:

          It has be explained many times before, studies done, cost estimates, projects, targets, research, and so on and on. Still some Tesla fanboys that are either semi-literate and mildly retarded and can’t read available studies, or are paid shills in pump&dump stock market schemes ask for some “explanation”. Go to the link below and read everything from A to Z, everything is explained:
          https://www.hydrogen.energy.gov/program_records.html

      3. Roy_H says:

        You don’t understand the Fuel Cell economics. This has been promoted heavily by oil companies for about 15 years now. They are great at lobbying governments. Governments the world over have been giving auto companies lots of $$ to develop fuel cell cars. Auto companies actually pay very little to make them. The real kicker is that the oil companies will sell the H2 but the governments will pay the astronomical cost of a distribution network at taxpayer expense.

  4. Someone out there says:

    Lol! It looks like a pair of jeans that has shrunk in the wash!

  5. CDAVIS says:

    Looks promising!

    Just need to figure out how to make hydrogen fuel practical to generate, transport, and store.

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Yes, we’re waiting to see what kind of magic wand they’re going to use to wave away the Laws of Physics. 😉

  6. philip d says:

    Keep in mind that Hyundai claims the current ix35 FC has a range of 369 miles while the EPA rates it at 265 miles. And this is in a heavy SUV with only 130 hp.

    This means 500 miles to Hyundai for this FCV will mean more like 360 miles from the EPA.

    Also I’m not sure how much of the claimed 30% boost in power density will translate to more power output to the motors if any or if this just means the cell will be smaller per volume and weight. But even if we were to assume that it added 30% more power out put this would put it at only 175 hp for an SUV which is certainly better but nowhere near the 200 hp the Bolt has in a lsmaller package.

    1. super390 says:

      I’d sure like to see the size of the hydrogen tanks on this thing.

  7. HVACman says:

    Appropriate name for an FCV. It is the Futuristic…and always will be…

    1. floydboy says:

      Okay, THAT as funny!

      1. floydboy says:

        was

    2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      Getting tired

      1. ffbj says:

        Yes it is. Almost as tired as another FCV concept.

        1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

          It isn’t yet another dead-end battery car concept as we have seen advertised e.g. by Audi for years, but never released for practical reasons.
          This one is scheduled for release next year, probably for 2018 Winter Olympics in Korea. Technological progress is obvious, and technical ability to sustain speed over long distances in whatever weather blows dust at certain overpriced electric car brand.

  8. floydboy says:

    Rolling on 24s with blue lights?! This is just a pimp’s partymobile!
    But seriously, if they’re going to do this whole ‘Clean hydrogen economy of the future’ thing, they’re going to need a lot more energy than they have now!

  9. Lmfao says:

    I’m befuddled how Hyundai as part of the AAM alliance claims there’s no demand for electric cars, and yet they waste how much money on fuel cell dev which has ZERO demand in the real world.
    Hyundai, take some advice and just make an electric hatchback. You would dominate the US electric market (which ACTUALLY exists) with that move.

    1. SteveSeattle says:

      Ioniq?

  10. Bill Howland says:

    I think it looks like the model x version of the model 3.

  11. jelloslug says:

    “Just around the corner”, the motto for fuel cell cars all over the world.

    1. “Just around the corner” is where the next H2 station will be when they run out!

      1. jelloslug says:

        Just as long as they are in LA…

    2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      “Hydrogen is the fuel of the future… and always will be!”

      Just as true today as it was decades ago when someone first said it.

  12. Shawn Marshall says:

    H2 may turn out to be a great fuel. This new model seems to offer some promise. Using off peak nuke power to generate H2 is a technical option which proves our world will never experience an energy crisis for thousands f years. what else may occur – only time will tell – the more options the better.

    1. jelloslug says:

      A storage battery would be a much better solution that converting it to H2 and then converting it back.

      1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

        Please show to the world the better battery storage that can store solar energy over winter and match 2,356,000,000,000 cubic feet underground natural gas storage in the US for example, and at reasonable cost. I can guarantee you Nobel price in physics or chemistry for sure if you will reveal your invention.

  13. KUD says:

    I got hooked on the Idea of charging my car with the electricity from my Solar panels and starting every day with a full tank. That will be hard to beat by FCV’s

    1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      Yes, FCEV probably won’t beat it by itself if you already have invested in your own PV.
      But electric utility can beat it easily if they will cut the netmetering incentive and stop paying you retail price for electricity you send to the grid at noon. Then you will need either stop working at day to charge the car, or go with some overpriced “battery charges battery” scheme, and hope utility will not cut on “free backup in bad weather” part too.

  14. Mikael says:

    So where do you plug it in?

    FCEV might have a chance as a PHEV. Without a plug, not so much.

  15. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    Why should we be impressed by a fool cell car with longer range? Just as with a straight gasmobile, all they need to do that is to make the fuel tank(s) bigger.

    Giving a fool cell car longer range is just putting lipstick on a pig.

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