Tesla Model S P100D Compared To Volkswagen I.D. R

OCT 29 2018 BY VANJA KLJAIC 21

A ludicrously fast road-going luxury sedan versus a mental, no limits race car

For anyone that wasn’t sleeping under a rock for the recent past few years, the sheer speed that the Tesla Model S P100D – with the Ludicrous mode engaged – is capable of delivering right off the line is well known. On the other hand, the VW I.D R made its first and seemingly long-lasting impression a few months back, when it took down the fastest lap time at the Pikes Peak Hill Climb event. For the most part, these two couldn’t be more similar, albeit completely different at the same time. Both feature a similar dual motor setup and both are fast. Really fast.

However, how does the Model S stack up against a mental, no limits all-electric battery powered racing car is a completely different story. And this is just the comparison that the good folks over at Top Gear tried to make.

Red Tesla Model S P100D

The Tesla Model S P100D

When you compare the two, on first glance, Tesla (somewhat surprisingly) comes with an advantage. The Model S comes with a dual motor setup delivering 760 horsepower, while the same setup in the Volkswagen I.D R Pikes Peak delivers 670 horsepower. Torque wise, the difference is even more pronounced. The Tesla plays the all-too-familiar tire screeching sonata at the tune of 722 lb-ft of torque. On the other hand, the VW I.D R will utilize “just” 479 lb-ft of torque. However, the VW’s racer weighs a little over a metric tonne (2,204lbs) – less than half the weight of the 2,241kg (4,940lbs) Tesla P100D.

 

When Top Gear inquired directly at Volkswagen about the performance specs of the I.D R Pikes Peak, they received these figures: 0-62mph is done in just 2.25 seconds. Tesla will do the same run in 2.68 seconds. Furthermore, it takes just 3.70 seconds for the VW I.D. R to sprint from 0-100mph, where the Tesla will achieve the same sprint in 6.46 seconds. With the 0-124mph taking 5 seconds flat in the I.D. R, the Tesla achieves the same in over twice the amount of time: 10.84 seconds.

Clearly, these two cars couldn’t be more apart. However, the timings of a civilian, road ready and everyday use oriented electric car, gives us a feeling that Pikes Peak will never be won by an ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) car ever again. Simply put, the sheer power and the traction exerted by a dual electric motor setup, paired by the complete immunity of the electric car to the altitude, paired with the relatively short sprint that is the 12.42-mile course at Pikes Peak, makes us confident that the future has arrived and it’s here to stay.

Source: Top Gear

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21 Comments on "Tesla Model S P100D Compared To Volkswagen I.D. R"

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Alfred

One question : why the noise of the Volkswagen is so strange (not continuous) ?

Brett

Diesel Regen kicking in

Joel B

Maybe the way the gears are cut? Straight cut gears have a different sort of sound to them. Not sure if that’s what they used, but that might explain it. Also no sound deadening in the VW, while the Tesla likely has some.

antrik

Probably related to how they programmed the inverter. There are various ways you can do it, and the I.D. R is certainly not optimised for smoothness…

Blablubb

Pointless? The Model S does not stack up at all against the ID R, however one is a purpose build race car the other one a road suitable family sedan. What’s the point here? It’s like comparing a Formula 1 car with commercial sports cars. They still suck on a race track in comparison, but that’s not what they are built for exclusively.

Jopp

Standard PR strategy. Dont lie, but try to create a connection to something, that you might desire. All these comparisons are pointless. Why do we see so many articles from the author following that scheme on here? Nobody knows. While it was shown that there is a financial relation between Tesla an folks on electrek, nobody ever made that claim with evidence for ievs.
See what i did there in the last sentence? Same PR strategy.

yo

A couple of ID interesting notes…
The ID has more aerodynamic down force than the actual weight of the car…
Can generate 5Gs under braking…
Can generate even more Gs through high speed corners…

https://www.carscoops.com/2018/10/volkswagen-d-r-corners-hard-can-lose-consciousness/

antrik

Yeah, that was my though as well: aerodynamic tuning is likely a more substantial difference than the acceleration figures…

Paul Smith

Let them face off in snow.

john Doe

I’m sure we’ll see “home made” special EVs for drag strip use only, that will be even faster then these cars.
Super light, flimsy with some kind of capacitor system for battery that just about only handles a short set distance.
The driver will be a short, skinny guy that weighs the same as a 10-12 year old kid, that have not been eating the last 2 days..

antrik

Electric drag racing has been a thing for years… It seems to have been less prominent over the last couple of years, probably because A123 Systems went bust (they seem to have sponsored many of these efforts) — but we had an article here a while back about a pretty serious team working on an electric dragster that will be on an entirely different level from previous attempts… (Still not quite matching top-fuel combustion dragsters, though.)

Regarding energy storage, I was thinking about supercapacitors for this use case — but I’m not sure they are really the best choice: there are extremely high-powered Li-Ion batteries for drag racing, that actually seem to achieve at least comparable power density to Li-Ion capacitors…

Terawatt

Electric drag racing is no match for electricity drag racing. Using just a cheap copper wire, electricity travels at two-thirds the speed of light, about 200 000 000 m/s or 7 200 000 000 km/h (4 473 872.58 miles per hour).

Even that is nothing compared to quantum entanglement, which inexplicably travels over any distance without taking any time at all. “Mind-blowingly fast” should be reserved for this racing class, but it is not.

rey

Question is will legacy auto embrace the future or throw roadblocks at it?

Recoil

Lets see who is faster through a parking lot with speed bumps.

andi_nan

P100D seems to be the industry benchmark. nice.

antrik

It’s “metric ton”, or just “tonne” — but not “metric tonne”.

Richard

Looks like the Tesla Roadster will blow this funny VW off the mountain. Where are your real cars VW!!?

Terawatt

With the very heavy 200 kWh pack the Roadster 2.0 will not stand a chance beating a car like this around a track. It isn’t available power that limits how fast you can go around a corner, but how much grip you have. Accellerating a large mass (which you do when you make it change direction) requires greater force than a small mass, and that force is limited by the available grip.

Bolt driver

The id racer was designed around a race that happens at high altitude, start is about 10k and ends at 14k ft. It’s also only 12 miles and less than 8 min. You don’t need a huge battery to only go 12 miles even if it’s all uphill. You do need huge aero downforce as the air is pretty thin and the road isn’t all that great. Lots of frost damage on the top section. It’s an amazingly fast car in those conditions. Surprisingly it wasn’t the fastest through picnic grounds, it gave up some top speed to the ice racers.

Bla blubb

It could have likely been faster, but you are not risking your world record run by going to the max in every corner when you already know that you have it in the bag. This was a big marketing stunt after all, but a cool one. Once there is a challenger, hopefully we can see what would be possible.