Volvo V60 Plug-In Charging At Tesla Supercharger?


Though this Volvo V60 Plug-In Hybrid appears to be charging at a Tesla Supercharger, the fact of the matter is that the vehicle is not receiving any juice.

In Europe, the Supercharger connector will physically fit into the Volvo’s outlet, but no current will flow for various reasons (pin incompatibility and Tesla’s authentication process are the primary reasons why this Volvo can’t receive juice from the Supercharger).

Apparently, some unknowing plug-in electric car owners in Europe will indeed plug into a Supercharger and assume that their car is getting a charge.  We’re not sure if that’s the case here or if the owner of the Volvo is just providing a fun photo-op.

More details in the Tesla Motor Club forum thread here.

Categories: Charging, Tesla, Volvo


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If they continue driving and using the outlet I would disagree with you

With the car 3/4 the way into the lots driveway, I would say this is 100% staged for the fun of it.

Um… nope. If it pulled in all the way, the cable wouldn’t reach. Teslas’ charge ports are at the extreme left rear – this one is at the opposite end of the car. MW

I wonder what it would take to hack the authentication, and remap the connections? As long as the actual power connections are the same, everything else can be reverse engineered.

The Volvo V60 Plug-In Hybrid has an 11.2 kWh battery pack; Tesla Superchargers are designed to charge BEVs with a minumum of 60 kWh battery packs.

Hacking this to actually charge the car would be going to a great deal of effort to, I suspect, fry the power electronics and/or the battery pack.

Like all DC charging standards for EVs, the vehicle controls the charge rate.

Yes, that means that even the mighty Tesla Supercharger can be perfectly adequate to charge the smallest battery car, provided it’s voltage was compatible (250-430 volts).

By the way, the worldwide CHAdeMO standard has a much broader range of voltage, 50-500. The standard used by GM and German car makers is viable from 250 volts to 500 volts.

So, with the voltage compatibility limitations in mind, the vehicle will request the correct number of amps so as to correctly charge the traction battery. If that meant just one single amp, then that’s what the car will request, and the charger deliver.

The Tesla Supercharger has the unique distinction of being a proprietary to initiate the charge, which would require a license from Tesla. Currently, no entity outside of Tesla has received a license.

Hacking the Supercharger is likely difficult, and of course, illegal.

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While CHAdeMo does have a 50-500V spec, there has been a few DCFC’s that do not adhere to the standard in regards to this. You will likely see this in the US with your CHAdeMo addon. Chargpoint’s newly selected DCFC, The Veefil manufactured by Tritium in Australia is a prime example. Check the spec sheet. Converted cars under 200V are out of luck.

More than “a few.” This also includes Nissan-branded CHAdeMOs, the loudest proponent of the “standard” in the US.

It has not been invented yet, but damaging “Vengeance Charging” would keep people from using non-authorized chargers that are pin or protocol compatible…

…nah, better would just to drain their battery, using the juice to charge the Model S in the next stall. “Thanks for your contribution… NEXT!”

I think we have a winner!


“But no current will flow for various reasons (pin incompatibility and Tesla’s authentication process are the primary reasons…”
That, and the fact that Tesla is using the Type2 plug for DC current, while every other EV maker is using it for AC.

So even if you manage to adapt the pins and hack into the authentication, your car couldn’t handle DC without heavy modifications (you could use the recuperation wires, but you would have to do communication about power levels with the charger too).

Even when there are a million Model S’s on the road, how long would it take for the Supercharger system to validate that the car isn’t a properly equipped Tesla simply by reading its VIN?

Never, because Tesla would never deploy such an insecure protocol.