Volkswagen Gen.E Appears To Preview Next-Gen 250-Mile Electric Golf

5 months ago by Anthony Karr 44

Volkswagen Gen.E

The study has been designed for “maximum crash safety including the battery.”

Volkswagen is dead serious about its future electric plans. The automaker wants to re-position itself as a leader in the hybrid and EV segment and is working, alone or in cooperation with other companies, on several green projects.

In an otherwise boring press release highlighting the marque’s recent developments, Volkswagen has quietly presented the Gen.E research prototype – a vehicle that is telling us a lot about the brand’s electric future and could be previewing the next generation Golf.

Volkswagen Gen.E

But first things first – Volkswagen says the research vehicle “provides an insight into the next generation of automobiles for efficient long-distance mobility with a range of more than 249 miles (400 kilometers)” – NEDC, we assume. The shape of the port on the hood has two sockets, which suggests the concept could be charged at home, on fast-three phase chargers, and at ultra-fast DC public stations via standard CCS connection. In fact, Volkswagen says it is cooperatively developing mobile charging robots that will be used in underground garages to “connect up the automobile for recharging.”

Volkswagen Gen.E

Back to the Gen.E concept, it has C-shaped LED daytime running lights that are similar in shape and size to the DRLs of the current Golf E, where they are incorporated into the lower part of the bumper. In the prototype, the light signature in the bumper forms a C with the light signature of the headlight. The lower part of the bumper here is home of several radars, while a camera is located on the windshield – most likely used for semi-autonomous functions.

Moving further back, we noticed the prototype has gullwing doors and flush door handles, giving slight advantages to the aerodynamics. Another interesting detail is the wing on the rear quarter panel that attaches to the roof. Basically, the B-pillar together with the boot lid wing forms a massive spoiler for optimized air flow.

Volkswagen Gen.E

Volkswagen says the Gen.E is based on a lightweight architecture that has been designed for “maximum crash safety including the battery,” which is feeding an electric motor with optimized performance. At this point, no further details about the concept are available, as the engineers of the manufacturer are only giving “a small snapshot of their otherwise strictly confidential topics at the Media Day for the Future Mobility Days 2017.”

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44 responses to "Volkswagen Gen.E Appears To Preview Next-Gen 250-Mile Electric Golf"

  1. Asak says:

    It looks cool, with the exception of not being very practical with only two doors. It is definitely reminiscent of the Golf. Hopefully something similar to this actually makes it into production. Unfortunately it seems like these concept cars always have daring styling that ends up getting dumbed down to bland and boring long before it makes it into a production vehicle.

    1. menorman says:

      VW sells a two-door version of the Golf too…

      1. Mark.ca says:

        …and it sells quite well.

        1. Asak says:

          I’m sure it’s great for people who rarely carry passengers.

          1. Mark.ca says:

            So what do you think the back seats are for?

          2. Big Man, Small Car says:

            I seldom carry passengers in the back seats, and I much prefer a two-door (+ hatchback) car. I’m a big guy, and the larger door opening makes ingress/egress easier. Plus, I prefer the looks of two-door hatchbacks.

  2. cros13 says:

    “The shape of the port on the hood has two sockets, which suggests the concept could be charged at home, on fast-three phase chargers, and at ultra-fast DC public stations”

    Uhh… that’s a standard CCS socket…. same as my i3.

    1. Jay Cole says:

      Yes, that should go on to explain that is a CCS protocol plug. Will add that in. Thanks

  3. Peter says:

    Great stuff now we are in business soon. So happy to have some competition. Competition is good for everyone not least the consumer.

  4. BillT says:

    It looks like dieselgate may have a silver lining after all. That being said, I will hold my applause until cars are available for sale in my (non CARB) state.

    1. John in AA says:

      Yeah, no kidding. I know it a tiresome refrain, but VWAG has done so many promising press releases and cool concept cars, only to never ship anything other than the minimum compliance, that the onus is 100% on them to show product on the streets.

      I hope they do!

  5. Chris O says:

    Charging robot to plug in autonomous vehicles…VW is definitely planning ahead.

    1. Nada says:

      Or non autonomous vehicles in parking garages…
      Very cool why have lots of chargers in a garage when a smaller number of mobile ones could suficie??
      Unfortunatelt concept cars always look better than production ones to me…
      Would love the gulwing doors and smaller cars but VW doesent sell their cars that I would most want to buy in the US since it is a tiny market for them whith huge costs to get cars certified here including re engineering…
      Dont know why the US cant fall in line with the EU and frankly the rest of the world with our car safety and design laws…
      I would think Ford and FCA would push for that big time as it costs Ford 100s of millions to modify their Focus for two seperate regulatory regions and one is not better than the other so much as they are simply different…

    2. GRA says:

      But will they have Yiddish accents? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV2N4KSh3x4

  6. David Murray says:

    That’s the coolest VW I’ve ever seen. I would drive that! I don’t care for the location of the charging socket, though.

    1. Mark.ca says:

      +1
      This looks better than the ID which supposedly will replace the current ev lineup.

    2. Davek says:

      Agreed! The front end has a lot of XL1 in it, I think. If that’s the Golf VIII, I’m all in favour!

  7. Bob Nan says:

    These cars are only for EU and not for USA. They will sell only Diesels in USA.

    1. GD says:

      Have you been living under a rock for the last year and a half? VW has explicitly stated multiple times that they will never be selling another diesel in the US (with exception to “new” 2015s). The future here for them is only gas and electric.

  8. HT says:

    I was a believer of diesels and would’ve bought one if not for dieselgate.
    Anyway, PHEV’s are getting similar fuel economy to diesels.
    Over the past weekend I drove 1,143 km (~70% hwy) in my A3 e-tron and only needing 61.66 liters, which works out to 5.395 l/100 km or 43.599 mpg (US). And that’s with limited recharging, only 3 times over the weekend.

    1. Mark.ca says:

      Yes, it suck to have a battery that small. You just don’t get to use it as much.

    2. Brave Lil' Toaster says:

      “Anyway, PHEV’s are getting similar fuel economy to diesels.”

      Wasn’t that part of Dieselgate to begin with? Lower emissions were being generated by virtue of higher mileage. Because they leaned out the fuel injection at GPS-identified testing sites.

      Take them out on the street, and those mileage stats don’t look so rosy.

  9. unlucky says:

    I don’t really like the styling.

  10. goodbyegascar says:

    I love the styling!

    Definitely an evolution of the Golf hatchback. Simple and sleek. I hope the production version looks just like that (without the gull wing doors and split windows). The chrome bar across the front is a nice touch, too.

  11. Bill Howland says:

    I used to say VW is the WORLD’S LARGEST Manufacturer of Concept Electric Cars with 80 designs. OK 81 now.

    The electrics that filter over to this end of the ‘pond’ are somewhat limited like the E-Golf and Audi products.

    This thing is going to get less range, and have less power than a BOLT ev does now? Talk about too little too late.

    Hummm – GM actually had to put a good design into production whereas apparently VW just has a lot of drafting tables. You’d think they’d at least try to EQUAL the competition if they’re not going to try making them anyway.

    1. Mark.ca says:

      250miles is “too little” now?! This car is much better looking than the bolt and it will probably sell better…if it existed 🙁

      1. bogdan says:

        250 miles too little for the the planed market launch: sometime in the far future (probalby a far away galaxy too)

      2. Bill Howland says:

        Mark.ca “250 miles is too little?”.

        Yeah, under the same rating system the Ampera-E gets 312 miles.

        And this is VW’s car of the future – maybe – but then they have gobs of cars that are always in the future. Where the BOLT ev really exists so they tell me.

        Oh , wait a second – I’m in one right now.

        1. AGordon says:

          If you are in a Bolt EV right now, you must only be in a CARB-compliant state. For the rest of us, the Chevy Bolt EV might as well be a concept car.

          1. ModernMarvelFan says:

            Bolt is shipping in Texas. I didn’t know that is a CARB state.

          2. Bill Howland says:

            Took ownership of my Bolt ev on 28 February 2017. 8350 pretty happy miles. Car is pretty efficient to drive, during moderate weather at least. Costs $1.30 to go 38 miles whereas my 2014 ELR costs $1.80 to go 38 miles electrically, and $2.50 with gasoline. Of course, the ELR really shines during the wintertime when its gasoline efficiency greatly improves, but that is the beauty of the VOLTEC system. Its a rather high efficiency electric during moderate weather, and it, like other ICE vehicles, is high efficiency during the very cold months. The best of both worlds. But, the BOLT ev, in moderate weather, is even better.

  12. pjwood1 says:

    “Volkswagen is dead serious about its future electric plans.”

    Anthony Karr is new to InsideEvs. Welcome Anthony.

    1. bogdan says:

      VW is:
      – dead : yes
      – serious : no

      1. pjwood1 says:

        A day later, comes his BMW “i5 cancelled” story.

        I’m dead serious. I mean it. Look at my face, 😉

        1. AGordon says:

          BMW is addicted to its diesel sales in Europe (over 70% diesels versus gasoline models). BMW will flounder around as it tries to shift its direction towards an unavoidable EV future.

  13. Koenigsegg says:

    Oh look another concept. Yawn

  14. john doe says:

    What’s up with the VW paranoia in the US? They have since discovered several other brands that had engines that released much more then they said.
    And on top of that – gasoline engines. . . during the diesel testing, gasoline engines from many brands was studied more intense AND they release more particles then a diesel engine. The particles are much smaller, and will be inhaled deeper in the lungs. The extreme number of particles comes from direct injected gasoline engines. In Europe gasoline engines with direct injection have to be fitted with a particle filter, or they must make changes to the engines.

    As for the e-Golf, it is much more quiet then other electric cars (including Tesla), since it is a “converted” ICE car – they just kept the extra sound insulation ICE cars have.
    The material quality is superior to cars like the Chevy Bolt. Hard cheap plastic all over. They should have offered that car in a cheap plastic mode, and a model with better quality. Many people would have paid a bit more to get the extra quality. . for the car in it self is OK. I guess they had a focus on range, and price. Long range = expensive battery, so they had to save money on the materials used.
    They should have made it a bit more expensive as well, so GM could make some money from it, and would be interested in ramping up production.

    The e-Golf is the best selling electric car in Norway, and has been for months.

    I work for a company that deliver parts for some tools for industrial automation, and we have delivered equipment to BMW, and the VW Group (VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamboughini, Ducati, MAN, Scania and others). The amount, and the projected volume design indicates volume production, and 9 production lines to begin with. The interface is new, for their new production lines – with a number of features.

    I trust the money they invest. You will see electric cars in volumes from the German brands – but they will ease in to production in the beginning. You see that from VW, because they are the worlds largest automaker. Even if ALL the EVs that are sold today was from VW, it would only be a small fraction of the overall number of cars they make.

    As demand rise, and production costs get lower – and the technology mature even more electric cars will be made.

    They are testing, testing and testing some more. If you had been reading European auto news/gossip you can see some weird vehicle spy shorts from inside VW test track. They’re testing drivetrains, and longevity on what people assume is the electric motor, batteries and power regulators etc.

    Just to add a list of the car sale in Norway in June.

    1. VW Golf 1258

    (e-Golf 874)

    2. Tesla Model X 609

    3. Renault Zoe 428

    4. BMW i3 420

    5. VW Passat 393

    6. Opel Ampera-e 389

    7. Nissan Leaf 384

    8. Skoda Octavia 364

    9. Mitsubishi Outlander 358

    10. Toyota RAV4 350

    11. Toyota Yaris 343

    12. Skoda Kodiaq 319

    13. Mercedes GLC 264

    14. Volvo V90 254

    15. Mercedes B-klasse 247

    So. . . 6 out of the 7 most sold cars were electric. Pure EV models.

    The VW Golf was the best selling car both as an ICE car, and as an EV.

    Check out Model X btw. . . 4×4 and to be able to pull a trailer is popular.

    Too bad the cheaper EVs can’t pull a trailer.

    The model in the article looks good, and it looks like a mix of two existing VWs, with sharper, more modern lines.

    People have to keep in mind that it takes time to develop an electric car. They must also design the car, in a way that even smaller production numbers can be fairly economical. Tesla has not really made any money yet, and the Chevy Bolt is loosing money for GM. VW must make several of the parts inside an electric car fit a flexible EV platform, with parts they can fit in several of their brands. They are in the business of makeing money.
    They will focus on EVs, because they will generate money soon.
    They are in a rush to create several EV models, at a price that gives them the room for å profit.

    1. pjwood1 says:

      john doe,

      Should I want Toyota and VW to make more money from me, or should I just be the consumer and try “to get what I pay for”? You write like people should be ashamed of buying a car from a company that reinvests in itself, and its mission? Some people buy Teslas **because** of this, not in spite of it.

      Tesla is a massive lesson to the German makers, not just about small companies taking on massive infrastructure issues (charging), but how “doing the right thing” can bring results.

      I don’t know where you are coming from with pollution? VW was 35-40X the NOx limit, while others (GM, FCA, BMW) to my knowledge have been tested at 2-3X. NOx isn’t a particulate, and the companies showing less of it had the proper urea injection. Their’s is nowhere near the level of fraud, that the “Lean NOx Trap” was for VW. It’s plausible it was the test, in those cases.

      I promise you there is no “paranoia”. VW made their own bed, with “Clean Diesel” and a parade of concepts. Why would anybody wait, or try and read into their spy shots, or BMW’s cancelled i5s? Until it’s in their lot, it’s a joke.

      1. AGordon says:

        You can utter outdated numbers and be stuck in your bloodlust for VW as you vent your own problems and biases all you want. The inevitability out there is that VW is doing something in a visual way to draw other legacy ICE manufacturers’ attention towards the future of the automobile. It was the Germans that invented the automobile, both gas and diesel, and it is the Germans who will now perfect (and lead) the next iteration of the automobile. History always proves that shortsighted naysayers like you and your ilk are the ones who get left in their misplaced obsession with the present as the tides of time move on.

        1. John in AA says:

          Show, don’t tell.

    2. John in AA says:

      “What’s up with the VW paranoia in the US?”

      The outright criminal behavior on the part of VW is what’s up. The “everyone does it” mentality seems to blind a number of European commentators to the fact that the damning thing isn’t that VWAG diesels overemitted, nor that they were designed to hide this during testing… it’s that the “hide this during testing” design explicitly contravened U.S. law, VW knew this, and they continued to cover it up for some time even after they began to be found out. As I understand it, European laws did not forbid the “defeat device” so it was business as usual, just playing the game. Well, U.S. law does and did forbid it.

      If someone has been discovered to be a criminal and indeed has confessed to it, it’s not “paranoia” to suspect they may not be trustworthy.

      There’s more to be said about VW’s lack of EV credibility, of course, but it’s repeated upthread already.

      That said, if the criminal in question reforms and actually brings a product to market, I might consider buying it. But “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

  15. AGordon says:

    To be fair, apportion criminality fully across the board to all automakers, not just VW – there is enough death and destruction documented for them. At least VW didn’t kill anyone with Dieselgate. Besides, if one believes in our system of crime and punishment, VW has been held to task in the courts and paid for their crime in billions of dollars (largest ever), and in a civilized society, one normally moves on after this.

    1. John in AA says:

      It’s for the legal system to determine penalty, yes.

      It’s for every individual to weigh the information they have available in making their own decisions of where to spend their money, however. Many employers choose not to hire convicted felons, for example, even those who have served their full sentence. Is this irrational of those employers? Perhaps. Perhaps not.

      In the case of any entity one is considering doing business with, whether individual or company, only a fool ignores that entity’s history when making one’s decision. If they have a history of building unreliable cars, you consider that. If they have a history of outstanding customer service, you consider that. If they have a history of cheating, you consider that. As I quoted above, “fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.”

      Anyway, when they move from press releases to cars that can be bought in all 50 states, there will be something worth discussing.

      (Regarding “VW didn’t kill anyone” a quick google on “vw diesel deaths” produces results from sources like MIT and the New York times citing premature death figures attributable to their “defeat device”. The NYT gives 106 in the U.S. and provides detailed methodology. The MIT study gives 1,200 but in Europe.)

      1. Bill Howland says:

        “VW didn’t kill anyone.”

        The situation was bad enough for kids to get sick in London and Paris – so much for the “CLEAN DIESELS” that is the way the cars were advertised in the USA..

        I would gather NORWAY is a better place to get sick than the States since here it is big business – its costs more for health care, and there are plenty of constructs in place to encourage sickness.

        And for a while at least, we were DEAD LAST in infant mortality for any industrialized nation and also having the poorest value health care.

        So when someone says something is “CLEAN” as VW did in the STATES, because of the foregoing, the stakes and costs are generally high.

        Now, individually we can make healthy choices, and not be forced into any regimentation – and one “Healthy Choice” is to be very skeptical of VW Advertisements.

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