Volkswagen Design Boss Says Automaker Will Launch A Conventional-Looking Electric CUV

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Volkswagen Tiguan GTE Active Concept

A more traditional looking SUV would provide more utility than the swoopy Crozz.

Volkswagen’s $40-billion investment into electrification will potentially include a Beetle EV and a Scirocco-like sports coupe, according to brand boss Herbert Diess in Auto Express. Even the Thing will possibly see a revival. Unfortunately, these niche models aren’t a certainty for production yet.

Volkswagen Tiguan GTE Active Concept

The future is much clearer for VW’s existing EV concepts. For example, the production version of the I.D. is just 100 weeks from starting assembly. In addition, a road-going evolution of the I.D. Crozz (likely with a different name) will arrive by 2020, according to VW designer Klaus Bischoff in Auto Express. There will also be an electric crossover with more traditional styling in line with the Tiguan as an alternative for folks that prefer the more utilitarian shape. By 2022, buyers will be able to drive away in the production iteration of the Microbus-inspired I.D. Buzz.

VW’s dedicated EVs will ride on the brand’s MEB architecture that will have engineering specifically to support electrification. It will underpin 15 vehicles by 2022, according to the automaker’s very ambitious plan. Many of these models won’t be available worldwide, though. For example, the company reportedly won’t offer the I.D. hatchback in the United States and will hold off bringing one of these new EVs to America until the Crozz hits the road.

In concept form, the Crozz uses a 101-horsepower (75 kilowatts) electric motor powering the front axle and a 201-hp (150-kW) electric motor at the rear. The one at the back handles motivating the vehicle most of the time, and the other only turns the front wheels when there’s need for the extra grip or additional power. An 83-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery would allegedly provide an estimate 300 miles (483 kilometers) of range on a charge.

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Source: Auto Express

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37 responses to "Volkswagen Design Boss Says Automaker Will Launch A Conventional-Looking Electric CUV"

  1. Clive says:

    VW stands for Vaporware…

    Here is more of it.

    We’ll see!

    1. Dave86 says:

      It seems like VW has to build something, so hopefully this is it.

      300mi pure-EV with AWD in a crossover body would be the ticket for me. Ford is working on something similar (AWD?) and expects to have it out in 2020, so we’re starting to see some useful choices.

  2. jelloslug says:

    Just around the corner! Wasn’t the Audi e tron supposed to be out in 2017?

    1. Merv says:

      So was the Model 3.

      1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

        I’ve seen plenty TM3’s driving around here.

        1. Merv says:

          Tesla employees don’t count. There will be few if any Model 3s delivered to the general public in 2017.

          1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

            lol, a “Sale” is a “Sale”, a financial transaction occurred. But if you want to make your own definition…..

          2. Nix says:

            “Tesla employees don’t count.”

            According to who? Because according to the State of California’s CAFE, tax, license, and other departments they count the same as sales to anybody else. Same with the federal gov’t IRS, SEC, EPA, DOT, and other departments.

            Sorry you are trapped in an alternative reality. Let us know when you are able to pull yourself out.

          3. jelloslug says:

            And VW does not even drag out the tired old etron concept anymore.

          4. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            “Tesla employees don’t count.”

            You need to find some other way to deal with your grief over Tesla’s growing successes. Writing kl🤡wn komments isn’t going to help, and just outs you as a Loser.

            1. Merv says:

              Just the opposite, actually. My grief is over Tesla’s failure to manufacture and deliver the Model 3 in volume. By now, I had hoped and expected Tesla to be delivering Model 3s in the thousands of units to ordinary consumers. Instead, they’ve built only a few hundred, and they’ve gone to Tesla employees with strings attached.

              1. Robb Stark says:

                It took GM 10 months to get to 3k Bolts per month and nationwide distribuition.

                I expected a master of mass manufacturing to do it in 3.

                Tesla will be way ahead of 3k per month 10 months from Job 1.

    2. Some Guy says:

      Aside from the e-Golf (which is basically just a compliance car, but now with increased sales thanks to increased range) and the compliance e-Up, there is indeed a lack of all the promised BEV concepts that VW has announced in the past, always to come in 3-5 years
      Lets see just from the time frame “distant past to 2013”, as 2014 announcements still have a chance of not becoming reality in 2018. So here we go:
      2004: Audi A2H2 (FCEV)
      2007: VW Space Up! Blue
      2010: VW Milano Taxi, VW Berlin Taxi, VW London Taxi
      2011: VW Go, VW Tex (PHEV), VW NILS, VW eT, VW Cross Coupe, Audi urban concept
      2012: VW E-Bugster, VW e-Co-Motion
      2013: VW Twin Up, VW Crossblue Coupé (PHEV or HEV, not sure)
      Hypercars with low volume were left out.
      That’s 12 BEV models, 1 FCEV that were promised to have already arrived by now (only counting the ones actually presented on major auto-shows), and 1 or 2 PHEV that not went into production.

      In conclusion: This year VW-Group officially can celebrate 13 years of ground-breaking press releases.

      1. Nix says:

        2010 Audi A3 e-tron with Wankel range extender. Killed by 2013.

        (posted mostly just to work the word “Wankel” into a post. *grin*)

    3. John Doe says:

      No, it’s released in 2018.

      One motor on the front axle, and two on the rear. 95kWh battery, with above 500km range.
      The first generation can charge with up to 150kW. The ET2 generation was supposed to charge with up tp 350kW. Don’t know it that will change. Time will tell.

      People can order it in high EV markets. It’s between the Q5 and Q7 in size.
      In December there will be about 4000 people in line, waiting for the e-tron quattro.
      The Sportback will come 2019. They’re going to release one electric Audi each year from 2018.

      I’m just wondering on how many they can/want to produce.

      If they’re able to produce in numbers, they will sell in numbers. It will be one of the best selling EVs (and cars) in Norway in 2018.

      1. John Doe says:

        That is of course just in Norway that 4000 are waiting in line.

        It is probably the first market it is going to be sold in.

  3. Get Real says:

    And, the Model 3 is actually in production in 2017 now, unlike the Audi e tron.

    1. zzzzzzzzzz says:

      A3 e-tron was tested by employees in 2012 in the US.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audi_e-tron#A3_e-tron_All-Electric_Concept

      However even the most brain-dead VW fans didn’t called it “production”. It is all different with Tesla :/

      1. Nix says:

        Those cars weren’t sold to those people. How is this hard to understand the difference between a sale (vehicle is sold and transfers ownership) and something that isn’t?

      2. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        “It is all different with Tesla”

        You can say that again! Volkswagen is the King of Vaporware; Tesla never does vaporware at all.

        Also, Tesla fans don’t keep dragging the conversation off-topic toward Tesla no matter what the subject is, unlike you Tesla haters.

    2. John Doe says:

      The Audi e-tron quattro (there are several e-tron models coming.. one day..) is actually in pre production now.
      That means the assy’ line is basically finished – and they can produce cars.
      They’re finishing up on testing, and then final adjustments on the assy’ line will be done.
      Then staff must learn their steps, and then they’re in volume production.

      Tesla Model 3 is still making adjustments somewhere. Or else they would have massive production going by now.
      They have an insane number of people waiting in line. They’re making cars, but it is not in volume production yet.
      Next year some time, they will probably make thousands a week.

  4. God/Bacardi says:

    VW’s only EV the E-Gulf was one of the first and few EVs that look like their ICE counterpart…

  5. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

    In other words, back to the drawing board…….

  6. ModernMarvelFan says:

    Conventional looking will mean horrible range due to bad aerodynamic drag…

    1. Brave Lil' Toaster says:

      And it will *still* sell better than the Leaf.

      1. Some Guy says:

        Well, the Leaf has sold 290000 world wide so far, which is expected to get better with the longer range version which has a more “regular car design”. Sales in Japan are already through te roof, apparently.
        To get to 290000 sold, e-Golf would have to be produced for 25 years at current production speed (or 12.5 years, if that second shift is added in the small plant where they are currently making it).

    2. Mark.ca says:

      Last time i checked the eGolf was at the top of ev efficiency chart. My average after 10k miles is at 4.6m/kw which is pretty good for a 5 seat car.

      1. Dan says:

        Per the official ratings the Ioniq electric, Prius Prime, and new leaf are all higher. The e Golf is 10% to 20% lower than those. (The Ioniq is rated at 124 miles on a 28 kwh battery vs. 125 miles from 36 kwh in the golf.)

        Note that the MPGE figure is based on the energy into the battery for charging, not the energy out of the battery which the car’s displays indicate.

        I agree that the Golf is a handsome and well executed car just like the car it is based on and certainly the most enjoyable to drive. While not designed to be an EV they have done a great job of packaging the battery; with the seats folded it has a completely flat load floor.

        Unlike the new Leaf and Ioniq it is at its limit range wise so what’s offered now is as good as it’s going to get.

        1. Mark.ca says:

          Personally i would not count the Prius in this ev conversation but i do agree the Ionic is a superstar when it comes to efficiency. We will have to wait and see is Leaf 2 is as good as they say…i sure hope so.

  7. JyChevyVolt says:

    It’s quite impressive that VW will spends $40 billion on marketing.

    1. William says:

      You just made my day, and convinced me to go into “Farfegnugen marketing”, as a new lucrative side job, in the forever promising, “VWapore ware”, press release business!

      I’m just hoping that my Lie Cheat and Steal – “Diesel-Gate” PIG, doesn’t run out of lipstick.

  8. Kdawg says:

    Hmmph. So I guess VW is also getting into the Boring business.

  9. Doug Bostrom says:

    Bravo. One of the redeeming features of VW (the car brand) is its aversion to leaping after whatever the latest and all- too-frequently idiotic design trend happens to be.

    Thinking of “grill cheeks” or whatever they’re called, also our failure so far to reach peak grill despite heroic attempts resulting in eye-busting ugliness. Audi seems to be setting the trend here as much as anybody, ironically.

  10. ffbj says:

    Oh yeah, conventional VW. This guy was one of the authors of the conventional “Big Stink.” He got 7 years & a $400k fine.
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-07/volkswagen-executive-gets-seven-years-jail-over-emissions-fraud/9234716

    1. William says:

      Never a good idea to return to the scene of the crime, from whence you earlier fled!

      Especially, when NOT on a business trip!

  11. Bill Howland says:

    This article just proves my point that all European heads of car companies merely copy each others ideas – the good and the bad.

    This is why LONG RANGE to a European PHEV is around 18 miles, (or a big ‘revolutionary’ improvement is from 12 to 18 miles AER), or they are copying BMW’s idea to make all types of cars (BEV, PHEV, FC, ICE) all look alike. Of course their advertisements will take 5 full pages explaining the trivial advantages of one brand over another..

    “Look! We have Tail Lights”, or some other dubious feature.

  12. Rob says:

    What the heck is going on here? This is a site and forum about electric mobility. Why are people bagging VW for saying they’re going to make an electric car? Audi have delivered several PHEV’s, have a BEV in the final stages of preperation for sale and the VW group are aiming for a significant move into the EV market.

    Why exactly do people think that they WON’T do this? They have the most reason to prove their green credentials, ever since dieselgate.

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