Volkswagen Confirms Production I.D. Crozz For 2020 Launch In U.S.

NOV 29 2017 BY ADRIAN PADEANU 31

Volkswagen I.D. Crozz

Will be followed in 2022 by the I.D. Buzz acting as a spiritual successor of the Microbus.

Originally unveiled in April at Auto Shanghai and then updated for the Frankfurt Motor Show in September, the Volkswagen I.D. Crozz will evolve into a production version in the years to come, likely with a different name. It will be the first U.S.-bound VW from the company’s new era of electric vehicles, which will also include a road-going counterpart of the I.D. Buzz. The latter will hit dealerships across the United States in 2022 to serve as a spiritual successor of the iconic Microbus. The two concepts, together with the I.D. from last year, have now come together for the first time in North America on the occasion of the 2017 Los Angeles Auto Show.

Volkswagen I.D. Crozz

The EV trio will ride on the VW Group’s newly developed MEB platform set to underpin a total of 15 fully electric VW-branded models by the middle of the next decade. The I.D. Crozz will lead the way for the company’s electrification plans in the U.S. and it will take the shape of a compact SUV with an affordable price tag – a promise made by VoA’s President and CEO, Hinrich J. Woebcken.

Details about the production-ready I.D. Crozz have not been disclosed, but we remind you the concept is powered by a pair of electric motors. The one mounted on the front axle produces 101 horsepower and works together with the 201-hp rear motor to provide a combined output of 302 hp and enable an all-wheel-drive system.

The 4Motion setup is quite clever in the sense that the vehicle has a RWD layout most of the time by default, with the front-mounted electric motor kicking in only when there’s a need for more grip. The driver has the possibility to manually turn it on, thus effectively giving the I.D. Crozz a permanent AWD layout.

Volkswagen I.D. Crozz

Thanks to a large lithium-ion battery pack with a capacity of 83 kWh, the electric SUV is estimated to cover up to 300 miles on a single charge. Once depleted, it will take half an hour to recharge the battery to an 80 percent level by using a 150kw DC charger.

Volkswagen I.D. Crozz

Speaking about the roll out of the electric I.D. models in the U.S., Woebcken said:

“The I.D. CROZZ and the I.D. BUZZ will help Volkswagen to kick off an EV revolution in the United States. All of our I.D. concept cars demonstrate the inherent flexibility, driving range and smart design that can serve the needs of 21st century drivers.”

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31 Comments on "Volkswagen Confirms Production I.D. Crozz For 2020 Launch In U.S."

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make brake
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make brake

it’s a 150kw dc charger not 150kwh.

jpo234
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jpo234

Running for an hour it would be a 150kWh charger :-).

Nix
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Nix

Code red mathematical unit abuse has been reported to the International Mathematical Union…

*grin*

mx
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mx

Will it be a 30,000 vehicle production line? AKA a green wash?

L'amata
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L'amata

I think 20/20 will be the year that auto makers regain their Lost sight of EV’s and begin to focus on electric mobility.

Prsnep
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Prsnep

No, it will not be.

Lou Grinzo
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Lou Grinzo

Assuming that most to nearly all of the promises from various car companies are met, it’s looking more and more like 2020 will be one heck of a tipping point/knee in the curve/pick your own metaphor.

It’s about freakin’ time.

But, as I’ve said here before, the thing with really big technological changes is that they often take much longer to start than the geeks (like us) expect/want, but once they get started they can overtake the market VERY quickly. For example, I know for a fact that there was endless talk in the computer field of large, color display screens that would let people have immense TVs that were light enough to hang on a wall. It took a long time before these actually came to market, but once they did, tube TVs and monitors disappeared very quickly.

I expect the EV revolution to follow the same path. Heck, we’ve already lived through the “takes longer to get traction than we expected” part. In just a couple more years massive numbers of consumers in the US will figure out what we already know about EVs and we’ll have a front-row seat for some serious market disruption.

pjwood1
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pjwood1

“already lived through the “takes longer to get traction than we expected” part.”

Manufacturers succeeded in skipping the practical EREV/PHEV step, to full battery-electric. Volt was just short, at 16KWh (esp. for cold climes). The mini-parade of gimp-cars with even smaller batteries, in my opinion, just galvanized the educated into waiting.

VW may take the prize for concepts, but BMW mixing wonderful things like CFRP with lame 155 tires and fixed rear windows, etc., has got to take the cake.

Nix
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Nix

Energy transitions have historically taken around 40 years to complete. That is things like horses to cars, whale oil lighting to electric lights, prop airplanes to jets, steam (coal) trains to diesel, etc.

We are about 5 years in, and even once 90+% of new cars are EV’s/PHEV’s, we will still have a large fleet of existing used ICE cars that will still be on the road for around 20 years.

This is going to require a ton of patience.

FISHEV
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FISHEV

Have to remember that transition to EV’s is driven by government policy not by the same economics that drove the transition from wood to coal to oil/natural gas.

It was more energy efficient and more economically efficient to use coal over wood and oil over coal.

Same is not true on EV’s where it is more expensive and no more efficient use electric motors vs. gasoline engines.

The transition to EV’s is driven by govenrment policies that mandate change to EV’s in order to lower emissions and try and stave off a looming planetary extinction event for humans.

Mark.ca
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Mark.ca

“Same is not true on EV’s where it is more expensive and no more efficient use electric motors vs. gasoline engines.”
Your stupidity is unmatched on this website.

Asak
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Asak
I have to disagree with some of what you’re saying here. Yes, you’re right this isn’t like those other transitions. Yes there are government incentives and mandates involved. But it’s not true that EVs aren’t more efficient–they are vastly more efficient. Nor is it true that EVs will remain more expensive, although they currently are. EVs are a technological revolution, not an energy revolution. The proper comparison is green energy like solar and wind. There was a steady stream of naysayers constantly pointing out year after year how they were more expensive. Well, time passes, technology and manufacturing improved and costs went down, down, down. Now the situation has changed and coal and nuclear power are no longer competitive based on price. (Nuclear by the way is a great example of a failed technology. After decades of trying the cost only went up, which is why it has no future.) The key to green energy and EVs is once you cross over the fulcrum point, suddenly adoption takes off because the economics now make sense. Or in other words it no longer makes sense to buy an ICE, or build a coal power plant because they not only aren’t as… Read more »
jelloslug
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jelloslug

The perpetually moving “just around the corner”!

Dav8or
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Dav8or

Yes, it seems to be a long sweeping corner!

Prsnep
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Prsnep

Yes, developing a car and bringing it to market takes time.

pjwood1
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pjwood1

Reciprocating engines feed reciprocating jaws. Right? I understand.

bogdan
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bogdan

I takes more time to take the decision: build and sell, or do nothing of that sort.

It takes decades for VW. But the other car makers aren’t faster either.

Mike
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Mike

It seems like a Model Y competitor. Probably a good idea to start where Tesla has a hole in their lineup.

This will probably put some serious pressure on VW though because it will debut about the time the Model Y could potentially be coming out. First real EV experience, no real battery expertise or manufacturing capability, limited experience with electric power trains. GM obviously learned a lot going to the Gen 1 to Gen 2 Volt and probably the same with Nissan. I can’t imagine VW being competitive right out of the gate.

GaryMulcahey
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GaryMulcahey

“First real EV experience, no real battery expertise”

I would respectfully disagree with that. I believe Porsche and Audi are part of the VW group. They have a ton of experience with batteries and and hybrid systems. The have raced for quite a few yrs now in the WEC(both are leaving for Formula E) using batteries, regen braking and hybrid systems. Audi and Porsche went head to head in that series. I have total confidence that that group will produce great EVs. Maybe not in the time we would all like but I wouldn’t underestimate their ability.

BIll Howland
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BIll Howland

so how much?

William
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William

I was afraid you were going to ask!

The I.D. Crozz has to be priced, by VW, at under the 2020-21 Tesla Model Y price, or else is will be a hard sell, to move these CUVs in anything resembling large numbers, in N.A.

FISHEV
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FISHEV

Keep in mind the equivalent AWD 300 mile Tesla is a $50K car so VW’s price goal on the price on VW’s EV/SUV does not need to be that low.

And the VW Crozz is competing with the Tesla Y, not with the Tesla 3 and the Tesla Y is likely to be a $60K vehicle.

VW’s SUV is likely to be market a year or two ahead of the Tesla Y. Attractive vehicle for those of us looking for an EV AWD utility hatchback.

A_T_T
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A_T_T

Once they have a dealer network it won’t be hard to sell these. This is Tesla’s biggest hurdle. Most Americans don’t know anything about what’s not over the street from their house.

Asak
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Asak

Tesla’s biggest hurdle is they can’t get their production line running.

Nix
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Nix

It will look very good in all black with tinted windows. That will de-emphasize the banana-curve waistline. They just need to actually build it, and price it competitively to their ICE cars, and it should be a nice addition to EV’s to choose from.

Will
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Will

Vaporware, firts they said 2020 now its 2022, or they waiting for something with tesla so they can move thier ass

mevp
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mevp

Square off the back and I’ll buy one. Until then I’d probably prefer a Bolt or new Leaf. I’m OK with a bit shorter highway range that you get with the less aero rear. I can’t stand these “lifted sedans”, they don’t work at all for me. If I’m getting a big car to go on bad roads, I want to be able to put lots of big things inside.

AMC Eagle, Crosstour, X6, Model X. Yuck. I don’t understand what the auto makers are thinking on these. A normal crossover, with slightly less range, would sell WAY better.

Dan
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Dan

Tesla model Y will get some real competition.

Davek
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Davek

Wagon wagon wagon wagon! Where’s my wagon? Will no one build me a car that has some utility but DOESN’T have the frontal area of a barn? So frustrated. Just put that drivetrain in a Golf wagon already!

Sorry; this post doesn’t really fit in, I just needed to get that off my chest.

Nice to see some progress on charging speeds though. For really long trips that’s more important than a large battery, after all. Car makers have been lazy about charging speeds, hanging out in the safety of 1C. Hyundai is better, but I secretly suspect that they’re abusing their batteries.

Rich
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Rich

Looks like a jacked up liftback. No surprise VW will release a vehicle that won’t compete against their ICE SUVs.

Asak
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Asak

I’m disappointed that the suggests they’re still not bringing the base ID over to the US. I guess I might not be sticking with VW after all when my e-Golf lease is up.