Video: Visiting Canada’s Version of the Tesla Supercharger

MAR 11 2014 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 16

Canada does not yet have a Tesla Supercharger (the company says they are coming in early 2014- starting with London, Ontario), but there are some public high power Level 2 units that are free to use.

Tesla Model S Plugged Into Sun Country Highway 70 Amp Charger

Tesla Model S Plugged Into Sun Country Highway 70 Amp Charger

These Sun Country Highway chargers put out up to 70 amps, which means that a duel-charger equipped Tesla Model S can fill up rather quickly at one of these stations for free.

As Kman Auto states:

“Supercharger Destination: Niagara Falls, Ontario, Canada. 2 Sun Country J1772 HIGH POWER Bays. 70 AMP Charging Stations.”

There’s “no cost to charge, parking is free for hotel guests, non guests it is $15/all day. 3 reserved EV spots,” adds Kman.

So, if you’re a Model S owner and in need of a jolt in the Nigara Falls, Ontario area, then perhaps these are the chargers you should seek out.

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16 Comments on "Video: Visiting Canada’s Version of the Tesla Supercharger"

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30-32 amp chargers have a lot of voltage drop? Huh?

This is not canada’s version of a supercharger… This is only 14.5 kw, which is fine for my Roadster, along with I suspect, plenty of ‘voltage drop’. I know that cuz I watched this video. Seriously, what did he mean by that? The 208? C’mon.

Christopher Allessi II

Correct, they are not a Supercharger, but they are MUCH higher power then anything else in the area, and can allow charging at twice the speed of the non S.C.H chargers. The Sun Country Highway stations can actually output up to 16.8kW on the stations that are 240v, or the 14.5 on the 208v connections. Either way, it beats the 5.7kW I was getting at most of the chargepoints after the nasty voltage drop down to 190v, and when the car current limited itself for safety due to the bad connection, I was at 16 amps on the chargepoints, which means 3kW. So compared to the chargepoints (I suspect they undersized the wiring on the chargepoints for the length of run they used), the S.C.H seemed like superchargers ^_^

The S.C.H stations have dedicated lines run from the transformer, the voltage drop was minimal on these stations. It is the Chargepoints and other non-S.C.H stations that I was experiencing horrible voltage drop (10-20v drop on 208v lines).

Christopher Allessi II

I was referencing the 30-32 amp Chargepoints that are around Niagara Falls. I visited a number of them, and the voltage drop is horrid. Starting at 208v, once my car ramped up to 30-32 amps, the voltage dropped down on average to 188-192v, which also had the side effect of tripping the cars safety, thus reducing the current by 25%, and when it trips a second time, it reduces it down to 50% of the original charging speed. Rendering those stations virtually useless for a Model S (I ended up at all of those at 16 amp at around 190v). Better then nothing, but better options were available (Sun Country Highway Stations).
The worst chargepoints were at the Visitors center right next to the bridge to go from US to canada on the US side. But then again, free charging is free charging, and when no Supercharger in sight, you take what you can get!

I’ll have to defer to our Canadian friends, but I believe Ontario Hydro which fed NF, ontario for years has now been privatized. As your experience shows, they are more casual about ‘system excursion’ than what is expected in the states.

I was eating at a restaurant in NF, ont a few years back and kept seeing the lights dip when anything turned on. I made a point to check the serving distribution transformer, and found to my amazement it was several BLOCKS away, ( one 167 kva single phase transformer for the entire neighborhood ). Since this at the time was a gov’t operation, and the juice was cheap ( i think about 3-4 cents / kwh at the time), no one would complain. But now they’re doing the smart meter nonsense, and forcing everyone to pay up to pay for the nonsensical meters. So cheap juice will only be a memory.

So irritating that he discusses charging rate in Amps instead of Watts. Taints his whole video as technically illiterate.

RecessionCone, why so grumpy? If you owned a Model S, you’d understand why even the technically literate would shortcut and talk about amps. All level 2 chargers usually use 208 volt or 240 volt service, and public chargers are almost always 208 volt. So the big differentiating factor is the amperage. When looking for J1772 public charging, we’re looking for the highest amperage EVSE’s. They are almost never listed in any charging map with wattage, they are listed with amperage. You’d know this if you road tripped an EV.

Christopher Allessi II
I’m glad you think I am technically illiterate. While Watts is very important, so are amps. Single charger in the Model S has a maximum capability of 40 amps. With the Dual Charger Installed in a Model S, it has the capability of charging at up to 80 amps. In the USA, and MOST Level 2 chargers in North America, are rated at around 30-32 amps at 208v to 240v. The Sun Country Highway chargers are currently rated at 70 amps. Which basically means they can charge a Dual Charger capable Model S at a rate of 1.75x faster then a 40 amp Level 2 at the same voltage, or 2.34X Faster then a 30 amp Level 2 of the same voltage. When road tripping, charging at ~2x faster speed, can make quite a bit of difference. Regardless of the kW, a 70 amp @ 208 volt, or 70 amp @ 240v is going to charge MUCH quicker then a 30 or 40 amp @ 208 or 240v station will (if car is equipped for it). So Irritating that you criticize people without taking into consideration the whole picture and the whole purpose of something. The purpose of http://www.SuperchargerTravel.com and… Read more »

+1 all day long

Put one of those clamp on volt meters on it(multimeter).

Christopher Allessi II

No need, the car tells you the voltage. I believe, if I remember correctly, the voltage started at 213, and at my cars then maximum charging power of 40 amps (I had my car upgraded last week after returning home from Niagara to Dual Charger. I learned very quickly how useful they are when not in range of superchargers) the voltage dropped from the 213 to 210, which is insanely good for 40 amp draw. Like I said in another post above, these things had direct runs right from the transformer, which was about 50 ft away, and dedicated runs, not shared with the building. Straight from the transformer, and they sized the wiring right! Impressive and proper installation.

http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/19627
As per 1st photo, you have a complete “picture”

Some of these high power Sun Country chargers also exist in the US. For example, there is one near my in Syracuse NY.

On a related note, PlugShare.com really needs to expand their icon legend to include Tesla Superchargers as well as these high power Level 2 units.

Maybe add new icon on Plugshare.com :
Red for Supercharger only
Yellow for higher Amp EVSE > 60Aac (Tesla magnet =)

The midgets. LOL!

You are in need of a wind sock for your microphone, good sir! Pretty windy parking lot there.