Video: Motley Fool Discusses Audi’s “Government Has Unfairly Placed Bets on Electrics Over Clean Diesel Vehicles” Claim

NOV 29 2013 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 16

Some of us love to hate “clean diesels,” while others are okay with them.  No problem there.

Motley Fool Takes Issue With Some of the Audi Statements Made in This Press Release

Motley Fool Takes Issue With Some of the Audi Statements Made in This Press Release

Diesels certainly have a place in the automotive world, but so to do plug-in vehicles.

When Audi called out the US government for “unfairly” placing bets on EVs over diesel, you knew right off the bat that it wouldn’t go over well.

In this here video, Motley Fool presents its stance on the Audi anti-EV, pro-diesel, but first let’s look back at four of the finer points presented by Audi

  • Over half of American drivers think government has unfairly placed bets on electrics over clean diesel vehicles, new Audi survey shows
  • Survey conducted by Harris Interactive among over 1,600 American drivers to gain insight into clean diesel perception and adoption
  • 66% of drivers think the government should offer a tax incentive on clean diesel vehicles
  • 59% of 18-34 year old drivers said that if the cost of diesel fuel was on par with gasoline, they would purchase a diesel-powered vehicle

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16 Comments on "Video: Motley Fool Discusses Audi’s “Government Has Unfairly Placed Bets on Electrics Over Clean Diesel Vehicles” Claim"

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Ocean Railroader

This sounds like the same things they said back in the 1950’s when they started ripping up all the old electric streetcar systems and railroad electrification systems in the 1960’s. They said, “Diesel Buses and trains are better then electric.

Lel

Clean Diesel doesn’t exist!!

it’s an oxymoron

Foo

Yeah, but “Marginally Less Dirty Diesel” doesn’t really roll of the tongue.

Priusmaniac

I call clean diesel a nice Jack the ripper, since there obviouysly can’t be something like a nice Jack the ripper.

GM has since gone to Confessional, but back then this was a Nationwide plan of theirs to Totally Shut Down Electrified public transportion by means of basically unnamed or hidden holding companies ‘managing the destruction” of the USA’s Then Electrified Public Transportation System. LA had one of the best, far more effective than what they have now. And Smog Free.

It really did take Toyota and Tesla to break the old mold at GM.

John Hollenberg

If you go check out the scores for passenger diesels, you won’t see any above a 5 (out of 10):

http://www.driveclean.ca.gov/searchresults_by_tech.php?tech=45

“Clean diesel” is pretty much the same as “clean coal technology” in that neither of them exist.

miimura

2014 Audi Q5 Diesel gets 5/10 Smog Score at driveclean.ca.gov
2013 Audi Q5 3.0 V6 Gas (ULEV) gets 5/10 Smog Score at driveclean.ca.gov

I also checked VW Jetta. They are all 5/10, gas and diesel, except the gas engines that are rated PZEV.

pjwood

MC question for Audi: Of the following fuels all are entirely domestic accept one, which is half imported. Which one is it?

A. Natural Gas
B. Coal
C. Uranium
D. Oil

io

E. Sunlight

Damn, that last one is 100% imported. Works awesome though. 🙂

Seems that “the finer points presented by Audi” overlook the “finer” particles and chemicals emitted by all combusted fuels. It’s not that government regulation is pro-EV, rather most “clean air” regulation is about reducing emissions. EVs just happen to have zero emissions.

From “EU research, air pollution is directly responsible for 406,000 deaths each year, causing causes more than 100 million lost days of work – that translates into losses for the EU economy of more than €330 billion ($448 billion).” This is why many major metro area around the globe have begun placing limits on fossil-fuel emissions.
http://www.carscoops.com/2013/11/new-di-gasoline-engines-said-to-emit.html

People know Diesel has cost more than regular gas, its tough to fool people. They also know electrics are the cheapest to fuel….

MrEnergyCzar

Priusmaniac

Watch out, in Europe the diesel lobby managed to have it sell for less than gasoline simply by having less tax on it. You win two times, by purchasing a gallon for less and by driving further on a gallon because of the higher energy content and the higher yield of the diesel engine. The result is more than 70% diesels and a massive micro particles pollution problem in city centers with thousands of induced cancers each year. People are just shortsighted and even in the US they could fall into that trick and buy diesels instead of plug-ins if the diesel lobby is not kept in check.

miimura

I disliked the discussion in the video because they are equating “Clean Diesel” in USA to diesels in Europe. The emissions regs for diesels in Europe are currently much more relaxed than USA. They will be tightening, but they’re not there yet. I am under the impression that SCR (like Bluetec) are not required in Europe yet.

David Murray

The term “clean diesel” is about as dumb as “clean coal” or “clean human feces.” You can call anything in the world clean, but that doesn’t make it so.

I also found the following comment a little odd:

“59% of 18-34 year old drivers said that if the cost of diesel fuel was on par with gasoline, they would purchase a diesel-powered vehicle”

Being that diesel fuel is more energy dense, then if the price were the same as gasoline, then you’d be getting a lot better fuel economy for the same price.. So yeah, it would make a lot of sense. But I can’t imagine diesel ever costing the same.

Brandon

audi is just mad their electric cars suck