Turns Out Ford Is Likely Working On A Tesla Model 3 Competitor

2 years ago by Eric Loveday 101

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New Focus Electric - 100 Miles Of Range, DC (CCS) Fast Charging - Arrives Next Fall

New Focus Electric – 100 Miles Of Range, DC (CCS) Fast Charging – Arrives This Fall

Ford President and CEO Mark Fields confirmed on Thursday that the automaker is indeed working on an electric car that could rival the Tesla Model 3 and Chevrolet Bolt.

That would imply that Ford is developing a 200-mile plug-in, despite reports to the contrary. Furthermore, it’s likely that Ford’s electric car will be relatively affordable, so that it can actually compete with the $35,000 Model 3 and Bolt.

On a conference call, Fields stated:

“Our EVs come down to making sure we’re the best or among the leaders in those areas. When you look at some of the competition, clearly that’s something we’re developing for.”

“We want to make sure that we’re either among the leaders or in a leadership position.”

Those statements were translated by the media as implying that a Model 3/Bolt competitor is in the works at Ford, but we’re not so sure that’s what Fields really meant. After all, it was just a week or so ago when Ford’s Kevin Layden, director of electrification programs and engineering, basically stated that the upcoming 100-mile Focus would meet the needs of most all buyers, thus implying additional range isn’t necessary.

Moving on…

The Detroit News speculates that Ford’s 200-mile electric car could be called the Model E, a name the automaker holds a trademark for.

Tesla Model 3

Tesla Model 3

Ford’s long-range electric car could be called the Model E. Tesla owner Elon Musk wanted to name the recently announced Model 3 the Model E, but was unable to secure the naming rights from Ford, which has owned the trademark for that name for some time.

This fall, the Ford Focus EV will get a bump in range from 76 miles to 100 miles, but that’s still well short of competing with the Model 3 or Bolt.

We assume that Ford’s Model 3/Bolt competitor (if there is one actually in the works) will be built on some sort of dedicated platform, but there’s no information on that available at this time. Look for additional details to come forth as the 200-mile electric Ford draws nearer to production.

Hat tip to Jim I!

Sources: Detroit News, Business Insider, Bloomberg

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101 responses to "Turns Out Ford Is Likely Working On A Tesla Model 3 Competitor"

  1. Anon says:

    Of course they are. Why pay $55,000 over sticker for a Model X?

    1. Big Solar says:

      also, of course they are gonna be among the leaders, I mean duh….

    2. sven says:

      Superior build quality?

      1. Jacked Beanstalk says:

        LOL.

        I sure hope there comes a day when Tesla’s quality and reliability are something other than a punchline.

        1. Rick Danger says:

          Want to have a good laugh? Google GM engine problems. Then, after you regain your composure, Google GM rust problems
          Have fun.

          1. Anon says:

            We call them, “Rust Worms”… 😉

          2. Spider-Dan says:

            I don’t think we’re in a position to evaluate “rust resistance” on Teslas yet…

        2. beta995 says:

          You forgot already they’re moving production to Mexico?

    3. Big Solar says:

      Now we’ll get to see the real Model E! haha.

      1. Kevin Ziolkowski says:

        Between the model S and X will be a Ford?

        1. Jychevyvolt says:

          Which is awkward when all of them are plugin.

          1. jm says:

            Maybe the Model E or one of the others will be “versatile.”

            1. Anon says:

              Or “fully functional”?

              1. jm says:

                or they will be “plug-in/curious . . . “

                1. Kdawg says:

                  Maybe a VIA Truck could pull up to deliver some “juice”.

    4. Yoda says:

      Strictly to research the falcon wing doors…

      If they cared about the electric oart a model s would do just fine…

      It is also common practice to buy other manafactures cars and rwverse engineer them…

  2. VazzedUp says:

    Even with this upcoming update, they are not competing with the Leaf or i3, so not even close to Bolt and Model 3

    1. RexxSee says:

      And like all other car makers that fake competition, they take good care to NEVER announce anything with MORE range than Tesla’s.

    2. Texas FFE says:

      I like the FFE much more than the Leaf and the i3 is almost twice the cost of the FFE. The only big advantage the current Leaf has over the FFE is DCFC and longer range. Those advantages will disappear when the 2017 FFE comes out.

      I think the Leaf is going to have a very hard time next year. Both FFE and Hyundai Ioniq will be able to compete in range and charging speeds with the Leaf. I think the FFE and Ioniq have better features than the Leaf making them more attractive.

      I think Nissan will probably lose its leadership in low cost electric vehicles next year no matter what it does. We have to applaud Nissan for the contribution they made to vehicle electrification. We can only hope that the EV market will continue to expand and there will always be room for Nissan electric vehicles.

      1. Rick Bronson says:

        Nissan Leaf has 10 cubic foot extra space.
        You gain the full trunk space in Leaf, but in FFE more than 1/2 the space is lost to Battery.

        Besides its easy to sell Leaf because everyone knows its an EV, but for FF, you have to specifically state that its an Electric version.

        Now you know why Leaf outsells FFE by a margin of 10 – 12 times and sometimes more than 20 times.

        May be Ford should reduce the price of FFE.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Rick Bronson said:

          “Nissan Leaf has 10 cubic foot extra space.”

          The Ford Focus is one of the smallest American make cars I’ve ever driven. Yes, from what I’ve read and been told, the Leaf is much roomier. That’s not to say the Focus is a bad car. The front seat room is adequate, and doesn’t feel cramped, or at least it didn’t to me. But you can’t rightfully say the Focus is a true competitor to the Leaf, even if its electric range is increased substantially. It’s significantly smaller, not in the same size class.

          1. Spider-Dan says:

            I had a coworker with a FFE and the trunk was comparable to that of a Corvette. It is not very useful at all.

      2. SJC says:

        I agree, the Ford Focus Electric is a good looking car. Why other car makers insist on ugly makes no sense.

      3. arne-nl says:

        Yeah, sure, believe what you want. As if there is no next gen Leaf coming out next year.

        The FFE will remain a marginal phenomenon.

        1. Texas FFE says:

          Yeah, sure, believe what you want. The next gen Leaf isn’t here yet and even if a next gen does come out next year it will be at least another year before it goes into production. By the time the next gen Leaf does get here the Bolt and possibly the M3 will already have been in production for a while and the 200 mile Ford EV could be close behind. The Leaf is an important EV but Nissan missed the boat when they did not come out with a long range EV when GM did and now they are going to have a hard time catching up.

  3. Aaron says:

    Consecutive sentences:

    The Detroit News speculates that Ford’s 200-mile electric car could be called the Model E, a name the automaker holds a trademark for.

    Ford’s long-range electric car could be called the Model E.

    Proofreading is your friend. Text-to-speech proofing is even better.

  4. Vik says:

    The theory that I have heard so far that makes the most sense is that they are playing it safe where they release abstract information about future development with out killing their current product via the Osbourne effect

    1. beta995 says:

      AKA Greenwashing, with no actual product plans.

  5. Kosh says:

    Let me help re-word that more elegantly:

    “We strive to just not be last”

  6. ffbj says:

    Arghh!

  7. Marshal G says:

    I read about this the other day about the same time as a separate article about the google car possibly partnering with another OEM. Given there is no new news I took this as just more “Tesla killer” FUD from the usual suspects trying to short TSLA

  8. SparkEV MD says:

    And Ford’s version will be slow, boring, uninspiring, FWD with wheel gaps the size of Texas.

    1. Soakee says:

      And you know these things to be fact…how?

    2. Texas FFE says:

      Ford has never built an electrified vehicle like that before, why would they start now?

  9. Well, let me be the first to tell Ford that they won’t be a leader in the 200 mile EV segment, just like they aren’t a leader in the luxury EV market, or the 250-300 miles EV market, or the 100 mile EV segment, or the 80 mile EV segment.

    None of the words in their statement even imply they have a strong competitor for the Tesla Model 3. Quite the opposite actually, since we already know they’re not a leader in any of those markets.

    If they called some future Model 3 competition car the Model E, I believe it would be ridiculed.

    1. Kosee says:

      I think the ridicule will stop quickly when it turns out this model E is 10000 dollars cheaper.

        1. Kdawg says:

          And shows up 1 year before the Model 3.

      1. Anon says:

        You get what you pay for. Worst car I owned where it just fell apart right after being paid off, was a Ford Mustang. 😛

        Never again.

        1. Jacked Beanstalk says:

          It’s been 20 years since I owned a Ford, and at the time Ford was an acronym for “fix or repair daily”. Their quality has improved substantily since then, though they still usually lag behind GM in reliability surveys. At least they’re more reliable than Tesla.

        2. SparkEV says:

          Ford = Driver Returns On Foot.

          1. Boris says:

            I have 2 Fords. European Models C-Max for 10 years and S-Max for 6 years. In those 16 years of ownership, I probably spent less than 300 euros on repairs. Lucky me I guess.

            1. SparkEV says:

              It’s a joke. Don’t take it too hard. Considering I have two Chevys,

              Chevrolet=Cheap, hardly efficient, virtually runs on luck every time.

          2. TedFredrick says:

            First On Race Day

            1. Proof Reader says:

              Or… Found On Road Dead. 🙂

          3. basementman says:

            Found On Road Dead

            1. Bill Howland says:

              Fix-Or-Repair-Daily.

              Or my favorite: Fucked Over Road Disaster.

              Seriously though, after ‘Bothering’ to come out with the FFE, they don’t seem to have done too much with it, the latest improvements seem about 2 years late.

              They seem to have much more real world success with the Energi Plug-Ins.

      2. stimpacker says:

        And how will they achieve those goals?

        Buy batteries from LG Chem?

        Build or contribute to building CCS charging stations?

        While YES, we should celebrate more EVs from more automakers, this seems to me like damage control PR. There doesn’t seem to be any leadership or will at all. I will celebrate when Ford gets serious about EVs.

    2. taser54 says:

      This is yet another example of EV proponents eating their own.

      People should be lauding that other manufacturers are apparently now getting serious about long-range EVs.

      Alas, EV production is apparently subject to approval of a clique.

      People, we need to get over that other manufacturers are finally entering the game.

      If the end goal is widespread EV adoption, constantly crapping on new entrants will not further the goal.

      1. Anon says:

        Ford is as serious about long range BEVs as VW Group. 😛

      2. mustang_sallad says:

        Totally agree. I’m really sick of some of the folks on here getting on their high horse every time a major automaker finally gets around to joining the party. Sure, they’re late to the game, they’re not a leader like Tesla is, but EVs need to go mainstream for them to have a significant impact, and so we need Ford, FCA, Toyota, Honda, etc to get on board. Why not celebrate this news instead of saying “I liked EVs before they were cool”? And besides, Ford is actually one of the bigger plug-in vehicle sellers out there, regardless of whether their products generate much excitement with the EV enthusiast crowd or not.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Seriously, you’re trying to defend Ford’s record for making — or rather, not making — robust EVs?

          They’re not even in the running. If the EV revolution were a horse race, they’d be near the back of the pack, far behind the leaders.

          Tell us, mustang_sallad, just what percentage of Ford’s auto sales last year were plug-in EVs? Did they even get up to 1%?

          Ford’s performance in the field of making EVs isn’t merely lackluster, it’s downright embarrassing for a major auto maker. Even VW is doing better!

      3. Soakee says:

        Dude, Ford’s business for 113 years has been fossil-fuel powered transportation. Tesla’s business for ~ten years has been electric, and only electric. What was your point again?

      4. Djoni says:

        Well, everyone is waiting to applaud at something that’s worth it.
        So, still nothing to cheer about here!

      5. arne-nl says:

        While Ford does sell some good and successful plug-in hybrids, for the public on this site only full EV’s are ‘the real deal’. Plug-in hybrids, while clearly having having their place in history, simply do not get a lot of interest, ‘love’ if you want. That is not a me-versus-them or tribal attitude, see it more as a personal preference.

        Until now Ford’s foray into the ‘true’ EV world has been to ask Magna to throw a battery in the trunk of a Ford Focus, which is how DiY conversions were done back in the old days. A non-starter.

        So, please understand the cold shoulder, and ‘seeing is believing’ attitude.

      6. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        taser54 said:

        “This is yet another example of EV proponents eating their own.”

        Or maybe it’s a case of us actually reading the article we’re commenting on… instead of just reading the title — as you apparently did.

        “People should be lauding that other manufacturers are apparently now getting serious about long-range EVs.”

        I would certainly laud Ford if there was any real indication they’re serious about marketing a true Model ≡ competitor. But there’s not the slightest indication that they actually are.

        In fact, if they were, I think we would have heard about some deal to buy EV batteries in large quantities. Or better yet, actually build their own battery factories, which they’ll have to do before the actually get serious about making and selling long-range BEVs in large numbers.

        Ford hardly even qualifies as an “also-ran” in the category of BEVs. It’s certainly not a real competitor.

    3. super390 says:

      The closest thing Ford has to an EV asset is the rights to the Mazda2 platform used in the Fiesta. This is the lightest 4-seat car in America today. I saw that a company in NZ was doing Mazda2 EV conversions a few years ago. What I’d do is build a flat 2nd floor under the floorpan and put most of the batteries there, the rest where the engine used to be. I’m sure someone will sell them good enough batteries.

      Not a Model 3 competitor, but a segment where Ford could build up capacity and experience. Got a whole lot of gas hogs to offset for CAFE.

      1. Kdawg says:

        I’d prefer a new design, specifically for a 200 mile EV. That will probably be required anyway due to packaging.

        1. Speculawyer says:

          Yeah, other than perhaps some more compliance cars, I think the days of gas car to EV conversions is OVER.

          The Model S, Model X, Chevy Bolt, i3, and Model 3 just make the clunky conversions to be nonstarters. You can’t pack 200 miles of range into your non-aerodynamic gas car conversion with a chassis designed for ICE.

      2. wavelet says:

        Well, Mazda did say they were working on a Mazda 2 (a.k.a. Demio) EV version a couple of years ago, but there’s been no word since, and as a subcompact it would only address a small part of the market.

    4. Nix says:

      I don’t care if they are leaders or not, as long as they show up and put out a 100% effort towards sell viable plug-in’s.

      Ford manages to somewhat quietly sell quite a few of their “Energi” vehicles, despite their history of out-sourcing electric conversions. And despite them not really being at the leading edge of PHEV technology, their combined sales often beat many other company’s total sales.

      They all save gas from being burned regardless.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        Ford’s low electric range PHEVs are light-years away from being an actual competitors for the Model ≡, which is what the sensationalized headline of this article refers to.

        In fact, Ford’s PHEVs aren’t even actual competitors for the Volt (either 1.0 or 2.0), in any category except interior space.

  10. evcarnut says:

    That’s for sure SparkEV MD…Because @ Ford it will be a Compliance Car & Nothing More, So that so that they can sell more of those HIDE0US Big ASS SUV’s….. L M A 0…………..

  11. Mark says:

    > 400,000 Model 3 reservations appear to have provided some interest

    1. mike w says:

      I was just thinking that. I’m sure everybody else saw 400,000 reservations and decided they needed a piece of that action.

  12. Trollnonymous says:

    “Stop Safely Now”

    lol

  13. SparkEV says:

    Any car company that wants to sell “compliance car” must now have viable 200 miles range offering and/or take the price down to sub $20K range for > 100 miles. Otherwise, they just won’t sell. I suspect Ford’s upcoming 100 miles range EV won’t be cheap enough, so now they must scramble to have something with longer range, even if just to meet compliance.

  14. “This fall, the Ford Focus EV will get a bump in range from 76 miles to 100 miles, but that’s still well short of competing with the Model 3 or Bolt.”, so, it will now exceed the AER of: the Fiat 500e, the Kia Soul EV, the Mitsubishi iMiEV, the ‘Base’ Nissan LEAF S, the smart ED, older BMW i3’s, and All the PHEV and EREV’s out there! It will not, however exceed the AER of the Bolt EV, the 2017 BMW i3, or the coming Tesla Model 3!

    So, it fits about 35%-40% of the way up the EV pack, as rated range defines them, with the Tesla Model S 90D at the top, with 303 Hwy miles per charge, and the iMiEV at the bottom, with 62 miles range!

  15. Speculawyer says:

    Hey . . . the Ford Focus Electric is getting a CCS port! Wooo! Nice. Small steps.

    And welcome to the 200 mile range EV derby! We eagerly look forward to your offering.

  16. Yoda says:

    Ford working on a 200 mile car is as shocking as the sky being blue…

    Un like Fiat/Chrysler/Dodge dont expect Ford to insult their own current product offerings…

  17. Texas FFE says:

    Growing up I always had GM products and I bought into all definitions of the FORD acronym. But then ten years GM started into bankruptcy and seemed to abandon sustainability, something I’m passionate about. Ford started to impress me with all its electrified offerings and safety features on its vehicles.

    In the last five years I have bought three late model electrified Fords and I have been very happy with every one of them. For a long time Ford did have a problem with quality just like GM had a problem with development of sustainable offerings. Both GM and Ford have come a long ways in the last ten years and anyone that has no respect for these companies today is not a rational person.

    1. TomArt says:

      Ford has made some worthwhile progress in a variety of areas – I’m still enjoying my 2010 Mercury Mariner Hybrid, but I also have a $1k deposit on a Model 3.

  18. Lad says:

    There are innovators like Tesla and BMW and the followers like Nissan and Ford…in fact most all the rest are. It’s safer following and keeps the CEO employed.

    I venture to say all the majors have EV projects in the backroom waiting for the technology to catch up and and the profits to pencil out before they act.

    1. Texas FFE says:

      Excuse me? The FFE came out two years before the i3 and the Leaf came out three years before. I would say that BMW is the follower, not Ford and Nissan.

      Tesla before the M3 has had a completely different customer base than Ford or Nissan. The Model S didn’t come out early enough to say that Nissan and Ford followed Teslas example. Electrification was imposed on all the auto manufacturers by government regulations, I don’t think you can justify that there was any clear “leader” in vehicle electrification, just auto manufacturers choosing different routes to government compliance.

      Because of the CAFE regulations, all auto manufacturers in all states must dramatically improve fuel efficiency. The definition of a compliance car is beginning to fade. Auto manufacturers are beginning to have to sell electric vehicles in all fifty states to keep up with the CAFE requirements.

      The FFE is a good example. You use to be able to buy the FFE in only states with tougher emissions laws but now you can purchase an FFE in almost all states. Even the Teslas can be considered compliance cars because Tesla sells it’s zero emission credits to other auto manufacturers, Tesla would not have been as successful without the government CAFE and CARB regulations.

      1. Speculawyer says:

        Perhaps he means that BMW is an innovator because they came up with new things like:
        1) The usage of CFRP to seriously reduce the weight.
        2) Adding a small 2-cylinder engine as a ‘range extender’

      2. Lad says:

        I’m pretty much aware of all that. Nothing new in what you say, My point is Nissan has been very disappointing. When I bought my 2011 Leaf, I thought they would improve the product along the way, especially the range. Instead they went to sleep for six years. That’s not an innovative company by any stretch and in no way a company that gives a s**t about the Planet. Knowing what I know about Nissan now, I would have bought a bicycle and kept my old Volvo.

        1. arne-nl says:

          You know that that is not true.

          Nissan have improved the range twice. First from 76-ish to 84 and last year with the 30 kWh pack to 107. Also they offered a heat pump to improve winter range and have increased cargo space. There must be more changes that I am not aware of.

          The only thing you can ‘accuse’ Nissan of is that they have followed normal ICE production cycles. It is common practice that a car stays roughly the same during its ~6 year lifecycle. Nissan simply follows that common practice. They have been innovating, but (again, as is commonplace) saved it up for the next iteration of the Leaf, due out next year. Just wait and see.

          1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

            arne-nl said:

            “Nissan have improved the range twice. First from 76-ish to 84…”

            No, that most certainly was not Nissan improving the range of the Leaf. That was Nissan eliminating the 80% charge option from the Leaf in order to manipulate the EPA’s range rating system, to force the EPA to use only a 100% charge, and thus give the Leaf a higher range rating without actually increasing the car’s battery capacity by even the tiniest bit.

            Shame on Nissan for gaming the system to fool people into thinking they had actually increased the real-world range of the Leaf.

            Tesla spouts a lot of hype, which I don’t like at all, but at least they don’t try to market pretend improvements to their cars, as Nissan has done.

  19. jim stack 007 says:

    I have a 2013 FORD Focus EV. I get 100-120 on the guess o meter everyday and can really go about 100 miles. The best thing is the batteries are like new after 3 HOT summers in Phoenix. Not even 1% loss.
    I wish it had a DC Fast Charge Port, a more efficient Air Cond like a heat pump, no bump in the back for the battery.
    Improve that, use higher capacity batteries and they are almost there. Too bad no one has a Nationwide Charging Network except TESLA.

    1. tedfredrick says:

      do you get that kind of miles out of the Focus. I only get 70 if I am lucky. I do drive kinda sporty.

  20. wavelet says:

    Of course they’re “working on” a 200mi BEV… “working on” could mean anything at all, including just having an intern spend a couple of hours a week reading EV news sites (-:
    More seriously, they’ve likely got various test mules set up.

    However, given that of their 3 EVs so far (FFE, C-Max Energi and Fusion Energi) all are simply conversions by a 3d-party, and severely impractical ones at that (no cargo space… The versatility of which is the whole point of an MPV like the C-Max…) — they’re in an extremely weak position at the moment.

    1. Texas FFE says:

      Ford has five electrified offerings, not three; Fusion Hybrid, Fusion Energi, C-Max Hybrid, C-Max Energi and Focus Electric. There used to be a six with the Transit Electric offering but the Transit Electric was discontinued. The C-Max was specifically built as a electric offering and does not come in an non-electrified version.

      When Ford introduced its six electrified offerings back in 2012 no other manufacturer offered as many electrified vehicles. Fords electrified models have become outdated but Ford still offers more electrified models than any other manufacturer as far as I know. I don’t think anyone can justly say that Ford is not a leader and a pioneer in vehicle electrification.

      1. FFEINKY says:

        +10. You are right on the money today with all your replies! Thanks for taking the time to give people the facts they have often overlooked.

      2. wavelet says:

        Bzzt.
        1) Universal usage in InsideEVs and pretty much everywhere else is that “EV” only refers to cars with a charging plug, not any hybrid.
        The Transit Connect electric was discontinued ~4 years ago when the manufacturer went bankrupt… It wasn’t even officially a Ford (manufacturer of record was called Azure Dynamics). It had an EPA AER of 56mi. It’s ludicrous to count it as a Ford vehicle on offer today.

        ==> Ford has 3 EVs on offer (and less outside the US).

        2) The C-Max Energi is *NOT* a purpose-built EV. You’re US-Centric and have not checked your facts.
        The C-Max Energi is an electric conversion of the very popular European C-Max ICE. Incidentally, there are also S-Max and B-Max models, which I bet you’ve never heard of either.
        All of them are MPVs, a small-ish minivan category that has very flexible internal space for passengers/cargo, and is extremely popular.
        The C-Max Energi isn’t even sold in Europe… Because after the conversion there’s so little cargo space left, it’s pointless as an MPV.

        Ford is currently the hindmost of any car vendor that has actual electric models.

        Significantly, it’s shown no EV prototypes or concepts lately, or announced any specific plans for EV models, or specific updates to the electric range of current models.

      3. arne-nl says:

        For PR reasons, Ford has used the word “electrified” to include conventional hybrids.

    2. Anon says:

      The Energi products are not 3rd party, just the EV was. The Energi PHEVs grew from the Escape FHEVs that preceded them. Hopefully the 200mi EV will finally be allowed to come from the same in house team, some of whom have been working on EVs since the EV Ranger back in the late nineties. Nice folks, met a few at a green fair, and they seemed really excited to finally have the go ahead from “top of house” as they put it.

  21. Kevin Ziolkowski says:

    If it ends up being half the price of the Model 3, you can buy two and Voila…200 miles of range.

  22. Fabian says:

    Note to Ford: Show me the Model-E!

  23. Foo says:

    Ford can’t/won’t really call their new electric car the “Model E”. That would be literally like bowing to Tesla.

    Regardless of whether Ford legally owns the Model E trademark, Tesla now “owns” the “Model that or that” naming for electirc cars. It’s Tesla’s thing. Ford missed their chance.

    Ford would just look like a lame copy-cat if they named their *electric* car “Model whatever”, like a Tesla.

  24. EVA-01 says:

    Here’s the problem with viewers of this site; they compare the EVs too much as if EVs are the only available car option and pick sides. Ex: Tesla Model 3 superior to the Chevrolet Bolt. As everyone said, the community should be happy that more options are coming and the gas powered cars will be gone before the end of the century.

    To make another point, this is exactly why I’m for and against EVs sometimes. When you put too much electronics in a car, people just treat it as any other gadget. A new and better one comes out every year so it becomes disposable.

    Cars, I think, are the last hold outs of some sort of interconnected gadget in our lives. It’s a shame they too will become something no one will remember fondly like a certain old model car. Damn shame indeed…

    1. Speculawyer says:

      I don’t miss horse-drawn carriages, whale oil, asbestos, or leaded gasoline. I’ll be fine without ICE. We’ll keep a few around do you can ride them at a fair to see what it was like in the old days.

  25. ModernMarvelFan says:

    It will be released in 2020 when they finally gets a copy of the Bolt schematics and LG Chem has enough spare capacity to sell them a Ford badged Bolt…

    1. SparkEV says:

      LOL! Ford badged Bolt… Maybe Ford badged Model 3!

  26. Mxs says:

    Hilarious to read some of the idiotic and borderline childish comments of presumably adult people …. Oh and car experts of course.

  27. Rick Bronson says:

    So much contradicting news from the same company. May be they are doing it secretly.

    Anyway I wont mind, but at least they should price the FFE with 100 mile range at the same 30K.

    Otherwise people will simply move to Bolt which has 200 mile range.

  28. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    The article says:

    “Those statements were translated by the media as implying that a Model 3/Bolt competitor is in the works at Ford, but we’re not so sure that’s what Fields really meant.”

    Indeed, the statement from the Ford rep was meaningless promotion of his own company, with zero information content. To claim this indicates Ford is working on a direct competitor to the Model ≡ is apparently the result of some media flack trying to create an interesting story where none exists.

    In other words: Nothing to see here. Move along, move along.

    1. Anon says:

      Ford is behind the competition and they know it, but they think they can’t say it. Instead of trying honesty, which seems to be working very well for public figures as disparate as E. Musk and D. Trump, they twist themselves up in half truths. Instead of saying that the 100mi EV is two years late and the 200mi BEV is right around the corner, that manager tried to sell a couple more 100milers by trying to suggest it’s enough range to hold some customers over until the next one. He knows darned well that the 200miler is already in the pipeline but will be something like a year or two late to the party. Then the media blows his statement up to mean Ford doesn’t have a 200miler in the pipe (which he DIDN’T say) and the CEO tries for some damage control and makes it worse because he also thinks he can’t just say the first guy was wrong to say what he said. What a stupid mess. Just be open and honest. Admit you took a wait and see approach, and can’t recover that lost time, but you’ve got great products coming. Drum up some interest. Yeesh.

      1. Mark B Spiegel says:

        “Instead of trying honesty, which seems to be working very well for public figures as disparate as E. Musk and D. Trump…”

        LOLOLOL

  29. Rich says:

    Didn’t LG Chem add another manufacturing line in the Michigan plant and wouldn’t say which customer the new line was for. This was in addition to the 3rd line they added for the BOLT.
    With any luck, FORD has a 200+ mile car in flight and we’ll see it in 2017/2018 with the rest of the 200+ mile offerings.

  30. lithium78 says:

    Just wanted to leave my 2 cents here. My wife and I both drive Ford automobiles. I have a 1st generation Ford Fusion Hybrid, which at the time of release was the most fuel-efficient mid-size hybrid in America. My wife drives a Ford C-Max Energi PHEV, which is rated at 21 mi of electric range but has been giving us an average of 28 mi of range instead. We absolutely love these cars. A full-time BEV was not an option for us because my wife has to commute too far for her job and we aren’t millionaires, so we can’t afford a Tesla at the moment. Using our rooftop solar panels to charge the C-Max, my wife has been averaging around 230 mpg between the EV range and hybrid driving. That’s really nothing to scoff at. We have had ZERO mechanical issues with either of our cars in the entire time we’ve owned them. We’re excited that Ford is planning to produce a 200 mile range EV, because that range is significant enough that we could use it as a daily driver. We’re so happy with Ford that we don’t have a problem waiting an extra year or two. We appreciate Ford’s quality.