Toyota To Launch New Electric Car In China In 2020

DEC 15 2017 BY MARK KANE 17

Toyota announced three areas of electrification for China in the upcoming future from Auto Guangzhou 2017, specifically plug-in hybrids, all-electric … and of course, hydrogen fuel cells.

Toyota Mirai at TMEC Hydrogen Station in Changshu High Tech Industrial Park, Changshu, Jiangsu Province, China

The Japanese manufacturer already offers conventional, domestically produced hybrids – the Corolla Hybrid and Levin Hybrid.  In 2017, roughly 100,000 units of these will be sold in China.

However, both, the Corolla and Levin will get plug-in hybrid versions in the near future.

In 2020 Toyota will introduce, under its own brand, its first all-electric model for China.

Senior Managing Officer and CEO of the China Region, Hiroji Onishi said:

“We will use the technology we have nurtured in hybrid electrification to carry out extensive development of new energy vehicles as required by China.”

The third part of Toyota’s plan for a green future is FCVs … but still in a more theoretical way. Toyota now plans its current fuel-cell vehicle feasibility study to be expanded to cover commercial vehicles such as buses.

Toyota just opened its first hydrogen station in China.

“Recently, the TMEC*2 Hydrogen Station has been completed for fuel cell vehicles, and verification is being carried out under a three-year plan from October using two Mirai vehicles.

Toyota will also study and evaluate the feasibility of using commercial vehicles, such as buses, in China to explore the potential usage of fuel cell technology. Fuel cell buses have already been introduced in Japan and a feasibility study on potential usage of fuel cell technology in heavy-duty trucks in the U.S. are ongoing. Toyota is also proceeding with demonstration tests of fuel-cell vehicles with Mirai in countries such as Australia, the U.A.E., and Canada. Ultimately, Toyota aims to achieve a hydrogen-based society through verification under a range of environments.”

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Meh. They’ve been invited to the EV party for years, but until the last minute, never bothered to show up.

Too late, so sad.

Even Honda made the top four for BEVs in the US in Nov.

The EV party has just barely started. None are even past the first stage yet… sales with subsidy.

Tortoise and the hare comes to mind.

Yeah, and Toyota is the hare in this tale. Taking an early lead with the Prius, then deciding to snooze and let everybody else catch up and surpass them for years and years. The hare thinks it can wait until the last minute and then dash ahead of everybody else to win the race.

That strategy (if inaction and ignoring the market can be called a “strategy”) didn’t work for Eastman Kodak, any more than it worked for the hare in that tale.

Mystery was drafting too close once again, but they yanked his ranting post. This time he was going Full Eastman, on your Kodak analogy. The Pushi-Pompoms, seem to be his W of C.

For that narrative to work, one must pretend the newest hybrids being rolled out aren’t plug-ready.

We already know that isn’t the case. Prius is now available as a Prime model by having added a one-way clutch, increasing battery-pack size, and upgrading the heat-pump. Those are all cost-effective modifications. The rest of the system is already designed to handle the EV driving.

It’s pretty difficult to argue the new Camry hybrid isn’t the same way. And now from this discussion topic, we’ve been told the Corolla hybrid is too.

Think about RAV4 hybrid, CH-R hybrid, and the upcoming replacement for Prius v. There’s an Avalon hybrid too. e also know there’s a next-gen Highlander hybrid on the way.

That means a lot of denial is required to see that Toyota isn’t taking the goal of phasing out traditional vehicle production seriously. They are clearly positioning to offer a number of plug-in models.

Attracting that audience is far more difficult that the early-adopter (tax-credit incentivized) sales so far. That progress is how the race is won, not by position in the first stage.

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There’s a difference between car manufacturers like Toyota, and Kodak.
Kodak was always dead man walking when digital came about. Even if they had gone full pelt into digital with a range of cameras others would have come into the market in the same way as now and they will still have declined to nothing, because no one would be buying film. Technology replaced their market in the same way that buggy whip manufacturers had no chance once Ford came about.

A better comparison would be Nokia or Blackberry, both of which delayed going to keyboard free for far too long and then messed up the transition when they eventually went. Toyota are at the first stage obviously.

>> A better comparison would be Nokia or Blackberry, both of which delayed going to keyboard free for far too long and then messed up the transition when they eventually went. Toyota are at the first stage obviously.

That analogy falls apart when it’s pointed out that neither Nokia nor Blackberry had decent software to support a touch-interface. That most definitely isn’t the case for Toyota. They are already delivering the full EV drive with Prime.

Toyota already has a ton of experience producing a variety of electric-motors and battery-packs. Prius Prime includes a heat-pump and optional CHAdeMO charging to build upon that foundation the analogy overlooks.

Claims of delay don’t have a merit; there simply isn’t anything to support that. When the next-gen batteries become available (higher density with faster recharging), Toyota will have a vehicle shaped to pack in lots of those cells. Everything else is already established.

Think about how far along Toyota is with reliability and cost-reduction. They even have an extremely efficient electric-drive system already, both hardware & software. The analogy doesn’t apply.

Sad, Toyota once a leader in efficient vehicle, they are the dead last compare with other major car manufactures now.

They have to make EV for China due to Chinese regulations, not because they want to.

even toyotas dummy managers are forced for evs, ha, ha, ha

By 2020? In China? Clearly very little to be excited about. And still it’s just talk, plans or whatever. Toyota seems to believe brand recognition alone will allow them to be late in the game. But as history tells us again and again, disruptive technologies are always unforgiving. A car company that big should have had a BEV competing in the US and Europe already. It’s my impression that here in Norway Toyota is starting to loose mind share. Not longer thought of as forward looking, but as a brand for those who have little interest in cars.

Late for what? Affordable EVs are just barely making it to the market now and volume is quite hampered. It is only begun.

Point is they’re announcing some car that we don’t know what will be like, only in China and in three years time, maybe more. That sounds like late to me. Maybe Toyota will have a decent EV in USA/EU by 2022 or later, but who really knows what the competition will look by then. Consumer confidence and brand loyalty can shift really fast.

Think about what it takes just to offer initial variety… hatchback, sedan, minivan, crossover, pickup, SUV.

I agree with most others in this discussion that Toyota is behind in developing EVs and will have a hard time catching up. Yes, they have a ton of hybrids that can be converted to plug-in hybrids fairly easily by slapping a small battery into it. BMW is becoming a master of that, but conventional ICE designs make lousy EVs. The short history of EVs already shows that dedicated platforms make much better EVs. Toyota can’t just slap a 60 kWh battery into their Rav4 hybrid and call it an EV. The chassis is just not designed for that and developing a new model takes years and billions of dollars. In addition to that there is the issue of mindshare and reputation. Look what happened to hybrids. Toyota came out with the Prius first and gained a reputation as a green company and technology innovator. Even after more than a decade Toyota is still the leader in this space and no other competitor has been able to catch up with them. The same will happen in the EV space. Sure, every manufacturer will have EVs, just as they all have hybrids today, but Tesla, Nissan, and GM will have a… Read more »

You seem to be suffering from a chicken/egg situation.

GM is focusing on the chassis, hence rumors of the Bolt platform being offered as a SUV in the future. Toyota is focusing on mindshare and reputation, hence replacing their existing production with hybrids & plug-in hybrids.

Both are pursuing the same goal. Both are refining production of components within to reduce cost. Both are improving hardware & software operation.

Yet, you claim that GM has a “huge head start” and Toyota has “squandered its leadership” even though evidence proves that’s not the case.