Toyota Mirai Captures “2015 Environmental Award”

NOV 14 2015 BY MARK KANE 22

Toyota Mirai receives the Environmental Award of the year in Austria (from left to right) KR Friedrich Frey, President, Mr. Gerald Killmann, Vice President R&D, Dr. Friedrich Frey, CEO

Toyota Mirai receives the Environmental Award of the year in Austria (from left to right) KR Friedrich Frey, President, Mr. Gerald Killmann, Vice President R&D, Dr. Friedrich Frey, CEO

2016 Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Sedan

2016 Toyota Mirai Fuel Cell Sedan

Hydrogen fuel cell Toyota Mirai received the “2015 Environmental Award” from Austrian automobile club ARBÖ* (Auto-Motor und Radfahrerverbund Österreiche)

In 1999, ARBÖ awarded also gave the award to another Japanese technology flagship, the Toyota Prius.

The Toyota Mirai has been on the roads in Japan for a couple months, while just arriving in the UK (first delivery report) and in the US (first delivery report) recently.

“This Award was received during a gala ceremony held yesterday in Vienna, where the Toyota Mirai was awarded in the category of “Current Innovative Environmental Technologies” . The jury consisted of ARBÖ automotive experts.”

“*ARBÖ (Auto-, Motor- und Radfahrerverbund Österreiche) is the second biggest mobility club in Austria with more than a half million members. It was founded in 1899 in Vienna and evolved into an extensive service organisation for its members. ARBÖ is a founding member of the EAC (European Automobile Clubs).”

Gerald Killmann, Vice President R&D of Toyota Motor Europe, commented:

“We would like to express our thanks to ARBÖ for having awarded the Toyota Mirai with this prestigious prize. If we want to secure the future of the automobile as flexible, personal and clean transport for the next 100 years, we need to consider which energy can power our cars tomorrow. At Toyota, we believe that various technologies will co-exist, ranging from EVs to hybrids to the most innovative of all, the fuel cell car. Mirai is a core component of Toyota’s vision for a sustainable mobility society, one that allows us all to move freely in comfort and safety in an environmentally friendly, sustainable manner.”

Dr. Friedrich Frey, CEO of Toyota Frey Austria completed:

“We hope that in a couple of years, hydrogen stations will be available in Austria, so that we can start importing those cars.”

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More green-washing PR for Toyota. Yay.

Wow, a Toyota exec actually mentioned EVs in a positive light. Small victories people.

bla bla bla .this cars will save millions of
tons,i mean hundred of tons ,i mean some pollution some where.ok lol , a litle bit of
Co2….but it still get an award.

you could get a model s for the price of this small car ,crap you realy got to have money to send out the window or nuts!

I assumed the “environmental award” was from Exxon.

Next up:

The hot rod club of the Peoples Republic of Albania bestows its prestigious award for excellence in something or other (but not well-to-wheels CO2 or efficiency) on Mirai.

Free beer afterwards (thank you Toyota) at the Tirana Brauhaus from 6:00 – 6:05 PM

Always a good time. Those Albanian hot-roders really know how to throw a party.

Okay. Who the frell is ARBO (not what they claim to be)? And where’s the list of past winners and award criteria?

I have a sneaking suspicion that this award was tailor made.

I did a quick google and didn’t find any reference to this award for previous years.

The organization seems to be similar to AAA here in the US.

2015 Environmental Greenwashing Award

There, fixed that for them.

It’s an interesting question: how do you judge the “greenness” of a car?

Electricity, for example, is an energy carrier, not a fuel source. That energy has to come from somewhere, and right now the majority of America’s electricity comes from dirty coal and natural gas.

In some cases, like Tesla’s Supercharger in Angola, IN, it’s exclusively coal (no solar at all). In that region a hybrid is cleaner than a Tesla.

If you judge by cleanest source, FCEVs and EVs are equal–there are hydrogen stations in Europe that are fed exclusively from wind. If you go by dirtiest source, they are also tied: coal without sequestration.

Average is probably the best metric. That pits a mixture of natural gas and electrolysis against a mix of hydro, solar, but mostly natural gas and coal. Does anyone have the numbers?

Average is not best metric. Regions are vastly different. In CA, about 50% from nat gas, 10% from coal. Even for nat gas, many are from combined cycle generators that are 60%+ efficiency compared to coal that’s 30%.

In fact, as more coal generators go off line all over US (probably the world), they’ll be replaced with combined cycle nat gas generators because higher efficiency will save money for the utilities. Then money savings result in energy savings, and oh yeah, will reduce pollution as side benefit.

This is why Japan should’ve gone with electric instead of H. They could use nat gas directly in combined cycle generators in addition to others such as renewables, and have far cheaper way to provide energy. H is just adding more layers of cost, either through gas reformation or electrolysis.

The glaring calculation missing in your response is the use of solar. Not the promise of solar, the actual offsetting of solar. With nearly 1-in-3 EV drivers offsetting their electrical usage with solar, I would say you missed a pretty large variable.

Like most hydrogen advocates, you want to compare to BEVs so that you will have the time for fueling and possible range advantage. The truth of the matter is the Mirai is not even greener than the Chevy Volt.

Good point, but that isn’t the biggest miss!
Any BEV car that charge off peak, like they’ll probably do anyway with TOU, won’t add significant coal, gas or oil consumption at all.
Those plants, particularly coal one, have such an thermal inertia, around 5 to 6 hour to go full steam, that they’re are running almost full blast all day long even though the demand shift by magnitude in that period.

Essentially, if you charge at late evening or night in area where electric power is produce by coal, you don’t add a single once of fossil fuel burnt.
This is the biggest missing calculation since all this stupid non sense comparison emerge.
But I can understand that if you want to show an awful image of something you wish to ban, you cherry pick anything that fit your claim.
It’s just a biased story.

This report shows that BEVs on the US grid average see dirtier than most FCEV sources:

However, it doesn’t produce an average number for FCEVs, and this my question.

“This report shows that BEVs on the US grid average see dirtier than most FCEV sources:” Average theoretical is meaningless when average actual is way ahead with solar energy. I would welcome an FCEV world powered by electrolysis. I just don’t see it happening on a large scale. Per the attached link: Also note the vehicle manufacturing cost of carbon in blue vs the fuel carbon in gray. The question then remains on how many miles the vehicle is driven. Is it 100,000 of 50,000??? I believe the average vehicle is driven somewhere around 11 years. It makes a big difference on the outcome of the provided graph. The longer you drive, the longer the gray line gets and the argument ends. As to your net metering argument, I disagree. If a PV owner produces an amount of solar energy equal to their usage, they have done their part to offset their carbon usage. For all the dirty energy they have used, they have offset someone else. If a third of the public did this, we would be making huge strides toward reducing our carbon footprint and without straining the grid what so ever. I would give the same credit… Read more »

Even if 100% of EV drivers own solar panels, it doesn’t really affect the greenness of the car. 99% of solar installations use net metering, which is great for offsetting dirtier output from the grid, but which is orthogonal to the car they drive. No solar EV drivers charge their cars in the middle of the day at home. When they do charge it’s when their panels aren’t producing electricity.

So if the same solar homeowner traded in their EV for an FCEV, their overall carbon footprint could go down depending on how much dirty coal was used to charge their EV in the evening or overnight. They’re still producing the same amount of renewable solar energy during the day, but they may be burning less carbon at night.

This would not be true if the homeowner had four (for a LEAF) to fifteen (for a Tesla) Powerwalls installed. In that case the car would be completely disconnected from the grid.

Yeah, I bet VW’s “clean diesel” came in second.

Bogus award. Crap car

JimGord, +1

Mirai uses 5kg H to drive 300 miles. 5kg H is about 5 gallons of gas. So Mirai gets 60 MPGe. Slow BEV like Leaf that are comparable in performance get 114 MPGe, almost double that of Mirai. Even Tesla P90D Ludicrous gets 90+MPGe.

5 gallons gas => 130 mi?
5 gallons gas = 30 lbs = 13kg
a volume comparison is not relevant?