Towing With A Tesla Model X – Video

AUG 17 2016 BY STEVEN LOVEDAY 24

Michael Subasic, Tesla Model X owner and host of m1kTV, shares his busy day and subsequent towing adventures with viewers.

Michael Subasic And His WIfe Towing With Their Model X

Michael Subasic And His Wife Towing With Their Model X

He quickly talks through a day of chores and appointments that most of us can surely relate to. Mike makes sure to complain about the expense of gas as he fills up his Dodge Ram prior to returning home for the Model X.

Video Description:

Our first towing experience with Quorra the Model X. It tows the X15 like a dream, and has plenty of power to pass whenever needed!!

Mike is accompanied by his wife as they head out for a camping trip and use their Model X, “Quorra”, to tow their boat, a Master Craft X-15, for the first time.

The video takes the viewer through all of the important steps in order to make towing safe and successful. He covers everything from trailer hook-up, to vehicle and trailer tire pressure and suspension setting.

Mike talks through the process while driving, with the camera trained on him from the dash. Clear views of the large center console screen and functions are shown as well. Later, the camera also gives the viewer a great perspective out the back of the vehicle and a POV feel as he drives down the freeway. Mike shows off the acceleration of the Model X and the ease of passing.

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That’s all well and good that there’s enough power to tow and all, but what is the range of a Model X with a boat that size?
Most lakes I camp at when I hook up my boat are 2-1/2 to 3 hours away (130 miles) and some over 200 miles. There is NO charging station at the lake, nor anywhere near to the lake (open grazing land for dozens of miles around). Gives a new meaning to range anxiety.

every lake that I go to has RV 240V outlets which one can bring their charger to plug into. problem solved.

Not the lakes I go to. RV’s are using their generators (sometimes all night long).
Problem still exists.

Maybe they should make a “spare” battery that fits on the trailer? With a solar rig that can unfold on top. Leave the trailer in the sun to charge up while you are out on the lake…

bvb-innovate (eBuggy) is developing a battery trailer, it’s supposed to be commercially available next year.

He only towed it for 19 miles and that 409wh/mi figure is averaged with half of the trip that doesn’t have a boat.

When he towed, the consumption are in the more than 600wh/mi range according to his display…

That means his range is going to be less than 150 miles…

BTW, of course a 600HP+ CUV should be able to handle 5000lb trailer with ease… Why is that surprising?

EV powertrains got plenty of torque so it can tow just fine.

That is why large mining trucks are still electric driven with its series hybrid power train.

His consumption was 439 Wh/km for the part when he towed. Average for whole trip was at that point 313 Wh/km. Pause at 5:42 to see the dashboard tell which meter represents second half of trip and which one represents whole trip (up to that moment in time).

313 Wh/km since last charge and 439 Wh/km for second half of trip (since 10:58 AM).

439wh/km is 702wh/mile…

So, I was being generous with 600wh/miles…

Yes, I was mistaken in my first statement of 409wh/miles.

702wh/mile is only 128 miles or less range on 90kWh battery.

Thanks for the correction. That is even worse than I thought since that won’t even cover the distance between many super chargers in the US.

Bjorn Nyland’s video showed about 800 wh/mile towing a smaller boat at about 52 mph ….. but with a less efficient (touring package?) Model X.

Do you have a speed to go with the 702 wh/mile estimation while towing?

Ok. I see some of the speeds in the video. I’d say he’s looking at about 120 miles of total range while towing at highway speeds. So if you put in a 30 mile safety margin it means 90… maybe 100 miles and you better be at a charging station.

One big complaint about the X is the range reduction. Towing would make it even worse. A 100 kwh version of the X would be the way to go.

I am waiting for 110 kWh. And I am also waiting to buy a boat. At this point, it’s cheaper to just go on a boat ride with someone else who actually owns a boat. They’re a money pit.

Renting is the way to go. For the two times a year we need a boat, we just pay $200 and get a whole day rental.

Boat
Pronunciation: [Boht]
noun
Definition:
A hole in the water where you pour (lots of) your money.

“A 100 kwh version of the X would be the way to go.”

Still not enough.

At those type of consumption rate (700wh/miles), you would need 112kWh usable battery just to make 150 miles (for safe distance between superchargers).

That is likely a 120kWh battery.

Another good reason for a limousine like stretch of the Model X: Double Battery! 180 kWh should do the trick!

There definitely is a need for a trailer-mountable battery pack that can easily charge the vehicle. I imagine that Tesla has thought of this, and it’s in the pipeline.

I would expect with the merger of Solar City and their own panel gigafactory, that Elon would have some eventual announcement of a “Beautiful Solar Camper Trailer” with onboard battery storage & fold out panels / awning for a larger surface area to create power when parked.

A solar option for the MX and M3, with all that glass roof, would make some sense, too.

I found out the FFE can tow. I’ve known for a long time that a Class 1 hitch was available for the FFE but the owners manual does not recommend towing. I recently found out that the European Ford Focus has a tow rating and I was able calculated the FFE tow capacity based on the differences in weight and the European tow rating.

It turns out that the FFE can tow about 800 pounds with the FFE fully loaded and can tow up 1,500 pounds with the FFE lightly load and trailer brakes. I would not try to tow until the power train goes out of warranty just in case. This information will come in really useful when and if battery trailers ever become commercially available.

This is a message to US Postal Service, Fedex, UPS and many other transport companies that Electric vehicles can also pull massive amount of load.

Those vehicles run between 100 – 300 miles / day and moving to electric will bring in a quick saving.

Good luck (easily) Supercharging with that setup.

Good point. I take up a whole lane of pumps at a gas station with my truck and boat. Either that or my boat sticks out 25′.
Better hope there’s room to back out when you’re done.

Torque for towing definitely isn’t the issue:

So it really comes down to the same old argument about EV’s vs. PHEV’s. It comes down to answering the question of whether or not the range actually suits your own personal needs. And YMWV (Your Mileage WILL Vary).

This is really no different than the debate about whether any of the approx 75 mile range EV’s have “enough” range, or is 200 miles of range “enough” range.

If the Model X can tow your load 100 miles, and you only need to tow your load 100 miles, then it is a great tow vehicle for you. Just like if a ~75 mile range EV is enough range for your driving patterns, then it is a great vehicle for you.

If it can’t tow your load the distance you want, then it is just like having a ~75 mile range EV that won’t go the distance you need.

He didn’t read the manual!!! He has a drop ball hitch and the manual clearly states not to use this. I had to buy zero drop ball hitch to accommodate requirements dictated by manual. The ball hitch I had was too high (out of spec) if flipped the other way.

Also, the lifestyle that had me save some gallons of gas with my Volt was not consistent with a boat that burned 30 gal/hr or more. My 32′ cruiser is gone. If we can’t sustain our regular transportation lifestyle with petroleum, it provides pause to ask why we burn so much gas for pure pleasure.