Top Gear Pits Tesla Model S P100D Against Mercedes-AMG E63

1 month ago by Mark Kane 24

Tesla Model S vs Mercedes-AMG E63 S

Top Gear recently compared the acceleration of a Tesla Model S P100D to the Mercedes-AMG E63 S super saloon at an old airfield.

Tesla Model S

The Mercedes-AMG E63 S is equipped with a 4.0-liter twin turbo V8 (good for 604 bhp and 626 lb ft of torque from 2,500-4,500 rpm), but despite being a half ton lighter than the Tesla, was unable to show better acceleration.

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The Tesla Model S P100D Ludicrous is simply quicker in every speed range tested by Top Gear.

“The acceleration rates are interesting to analyse because the P100D goes through every increment roughly a tenth faster than the E63S. So at 30mph it’s three tenths ahead, at 60 six tenths and so on.

However, it never quite gets a second ahead. At 90mph it’s almost there (5.19secs plays 6.12), but from that point on the Mercedes starts to come back. I mention this in my commentary during the race – looking in the mirror I could tell the Tesla had stretched the gap as far as it would go and the Mercedes was starting to reel it back in. It’s nice to see this sensation reflected in the figures, too. So at all relevant speeds the Tesla is faster – just look at the 30-70mph figure to give you an indication of what it’s like joining a motorway. The Merc makes the leap in 2.68 seconds, but the Tesla is almost exactly half a second faster.”

Tesla is also quicker in 30-70 mph range (2.19 seconds vs 2.68 seconds) and of course on ¼ mile: (11.08 s @ 124.0 mph vs 11.35 s @ 126.1 mph).

The full result list and video from tests is available at Top Gear site.

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24 responses to "Top Gear Pits Tesla Model S P100D Against Mercedes-AMG E63"

  1. veselin says:

    What about Tesla vs Lamborghini – parked?

    1. nothanks says:

      Well that was a stupid thing to do on a public road. That’s how you get your doors clipped by a car driving by.

  2. Rafael says:

    Finally Top Gear discloses the reality.

  3. Mint says:

    I wish we’d see some latency measurements, e.g. if you’re cruising at 50 mph in top gear, how long does it take to hit 80 mph?

    That’s where EVs really shine.

    The 30-70 time here is just a subtraction of 0-70 minus 0-30. Not representative of reality.

    1. John Norris says:

      Why does 0-70 minus 0-30 not represent reality? Confused…

      1. Aaron says:

        I believe he’s taking into account the Tesla’s instant acceleration, versus the Mercedes’ need to downshift, bring up RPMs to get full power, etc.

      2. Mint says:

        Because before you decide to stomp the gas to overtake or get on the highway, an ICE isn’t revving at 5000+rpm with fully spooled turbos. It was cruising at low RPM.

    1. Aaron says:

      Hmmm. Looking at the stats, I would say that 5/7 passenger sedan would hold up quite nicely compared to the other vehicles. Lap times are in the 2 minute range, so I doubt overheating would be an issue. Handling could be a challenge, especially compared to some of the other purpose-built sports cars in that list. Fascinating that vehicles like the Fiat 124 Spyder did so well on the test.

      https://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2017-every-lap-time-and-full-data-feature

      1. protomech says:

        https://www.caranddriver.com/features/tesla-model-s-p85d-at-lightning-lap-2016-feature

        They did run a P85D last year, and it was almost 10 seconds slower than the next slowest car.

        https://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-2016-results-historical-lap-times-and-more-feature

        “By the time the NASCAR bend came up, the brake pedal returned slightly, but by the exit of Snake, about 40 seconds into the lap, the 5010-pound P85D entered a reduced power mode (roughly half of the max). Up to that point, it was on pace with the Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat’s 3:03.5 lap but ended up with a 3:17.4, matching the heaviest vehicle we’ve ever driven here, the 5317-pound 2012 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8.”

        Power to weight doesn’t help the Tesla, weight REALLY doesn’t help the Tesla, and heat soak in both brakes and battery / motors is no good.

        In a fantasy world I’d like to see C&D run something like a NIO EP9 or Rimac Concept One as a true point of comparison. However, those cars are attainable only in a fantasy world so..

        1. protomech says:

          Two other points to note:

          1. While the Tesla P85D would have done very poorly this year and last year, it’s actually ranked not at the bottom overall.

          After the most recent round, it’s ranked at 190 out of 220 total, above quite a few older and lower-end performance cars, ex: 425 hp 2006 Charger SRT8.

          https://www.caranddriver.com/features/lightning-lap-20062017-historical-data-every-lap-time-every-car-feature

          2. I’m curious whether the car was configured to disable regen braking. Without regen braking dumping additional heat into the battery and motors and without the mechanical brake failure they experienced, the P85D might have done a little better.

          It’s too bad they don’t seem to have tested the P100D there this year.

        2. Jim J Fox says:

          Both cars exist- so what’s this ‘fantasy world’ you blather about??

        3. Jim J Fox says:

          The article concerns the P100D- and here you are with the strawman quoting P85 model. STFU!

    2. Dan says:

      Certainly would, try doing 5 or ten quarter mile runs in a row, same story; Tesla croaks.

    3. Jim J Fox says:

      Not a single EV invited! WTF is your point?
      NIO NP9 would eat these clunkers for breakfast. https://jalopnik.com/the-worlds-fastest-electric-car-just-set-two-incredible-1792780274

  4. leafowner says:

    This is not news…..when a gasser can beat an EV — then that will be news….

  5. menorman says:

    Now time to try the S63 AMG…

    1. floydboy says:

      The S63 is heavier.

  6. ricardo says:

    OMG label the y axis!

  7. Good chart but a better one would have been of each interval, like this: (link)

  8. floydboy says:

    Tesla may have a race car one day, but the Model S aint it. Far too heavy, doesn’t have the cooling, doesn’t have the brakes, can’t completely disable traction control, can’t disable regen, can’t pull much more than about 580 hp and no direct steering setup.

    Now it does have a quick battery swap ability, which could keep it in the running if it wasn’t prone to overheating. Perhaps if one didn’t care about battery longevity, you could disable overheat power reduction.

    Yeah, there are other electrics out there that are more suited to race duty. Besides, this whole acceleration thing has gotten Tesla sued by the ‘spoiled brat’ types anyway. Yeah, when I saw they were being sued, not because the car wasn’t performing as expected, but because it wasn’t giving them the horsepower they wanted while performing as expected, I realized the shark had been jumped and it was time for Tesla to step away from this whole meme.

    1. Jim J Fox says:

      Tesla builds ROAD cars, not RACE cars. Musk is not interested in racing but in electrification of the world.
      Grow up, get a life & stop trolling- you are very poor at it…

      1. floydboy says:

        As a HUGE Tesla fan, I’m not sure where you got the idea that I was trolling. I’m essentially explaining to the race car crowd the reasons NOT to view the Model S as a race car and why Tesla should disabuse people of that notion.

        When the P85D came out, people made it out to be a racing car because of its excellent traction control and massive acceleration. Tesla did nothing to dissuade this thinking. The car performed admirably, so all was well. But guess what, all was Not well. Some Europeans sued Tesla. Why? The car didn’t make 691 hp! Sure it kicked much gas car booty at the track, but it didn’t make 691 hp while it kicked much booty!

        The motors could do that much, but the battery couldn’t. So Tesla took it down. Too late! The evil Musk and Tesla tricked us! Give us compensation!

        Tesla dials back power(just a little) to preserve batteries and drivetrains on those abusing the cars(ie thinking they’re race cars) to preserve longevity and reduce breakage. The evil Musk and Tesla tricked us! Give us compensation!

        We’ve been doing lots of hard launches at the race track and seem to have lost .02 seconds. Tesla says they haven’t touched the car. I don’t believe them. The evil Musk and Tesla tricked us! Give us compensation!

        THIS is why, as a Tesla fan and investor, I want Musk stop this “race car” meme, make it absolutely clear that these are ROAD CARS and void warranties for abuse, like other manufacturers do.

  9. Chris says:

    What have you been smoking boy?

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