Tesla Sells 60 kW Superchargers To Swedish Business Owner


Looks like Tesla Motors is somewhat privately selling downgraded Superchargers to local businesses.

We'll take faster charging over slower charging any day.

We’ll take faster charging over slower charging any day.

The two units seen here were purchased by a businessman in Sweden.

These units only pump out 60 kW, versus the 120+kW Tesla’s Superchargers normally provide.

This is not the only case of private Superchargers. Another person on the TMC forum claimed that there are 4 of these 60 kW units that are not open to the public, but are used to charge Model S taxis.

While these do not charge at as high a rate as the 120+ kW Superchargers do, 60 kW is still fast.

We are not entirely sure of the pricing, though it has been stated that these downgraded Superchargers cost almost $70,000 USD.

Tesla Supercharger - Swedish Buisnes Owner 2

Swedish Tesla Model S’ grabbing some juice!

Source: Tesla Motors Club

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35 responses to "Tesla Sells 60 kW Superchargers To Swedish Business Owner"
  1. Ambulator says:

    This makes sense. The high rate of Superchargers would be bad for the battery if a car used them all the time, but half power is probably fine. A taxi needs faster charging than a normal EVSE, though.

    1. Cavaron says:

      I don’t know if 60kW makes any sense at 70k. You can have the 22kW outlet in Europe for about 200$ (and your Model S needs to have the dual chargers). At 22kW you are charging 66 miles/h.

      Ok, let’s say you need it faster – you can have a CHAdeMO 50kW Station for about 10.000$ and use the 450$ adapter with your Model S to charge 150 miles/h and you would have 60k left for a (pre owned) backup Model S…

      1. I’m guessing $70,000 (U$), is for the pair of Supercharging stalls/outlets … commissioned and installed.

        Currently deployed supercharger stations support one, or two Tesla’s at at time sharing the maximum amour of power. This implies one Tesla charging at 60 kW, or two sharing: eg: 20 kW + 40 kW. (as one nears high state of charge, it slows down allowing the other vehicle to charge faster).

        One key feature of a Tesla supercharger station is all have physical redundancy. A broken connector, or ICE’d stall is not a blocking event in a travel itinerary.

      2. Ted P says:

        Cavaron, Please pass along where you have found a 50kW CHAdeMO for $10,000.

        In the United States, I have only seen 20-25kW CHAdeMO units for under $10,000 USD. The cheapest 40-50kW unit I have seen is about 20,000 USD, most are 30-35k USD. That is, if you are not buying in volume.

        1. Nick says:

          ~12k for basic unit. ~15k with extras:

          1. Doug (dhanson865) says:

            that one overheats if you use it on a Tesla at over 25KW.

          2. Ted P says:

            Nick, I talked to AV about these units last month and they told me that the average installation cost is $20k (USD) and that these units are going fast.

            I like those units, they are the dominant in my market, but they overheat quite often. They don’t seem quite stout enough for Tennessee’s high-humidity summers.

        2. Cavaron says:

          Yep, had the Nissan announcement for sub 10k (ok, it was Euros) in mind:

    2. kdawg says:

      DCFC vs low speed charging was tested and found not to do any significant degradation to the battery. So fast charge away.

      1. przemo_li says:

        … as long as battery electronics are smart enough to take it easy at important parts of charging, when battery is almost depleted and almost fully charged.

        It’s same as with recharge cycles. They sound really small (500 or so), but those do not happen in real life, as battery management systems do things differently, thus prolonging life of battery.

  2. miggy says:

    In Australia they have a Destination Charging Program, with over 10 sites established.

    Concentrating on key locations where Model S owners frequent for longer stops, the Destination Charging Program utilises the High Power Wall Unit designed by Tesla Motors.

    Locations include key hotels such as Park Hyatt Sydney, The Darling, Hotel Realm Canberra, The Observatory in Port Macquarie and to fulfil the winter snow travelers Rundells Alpine Lodge Dinner Plain. In addition, key shopping centres such as Westfield Chatswood and Chadstone have been utilised, with premium parking locations and wall connectors available to Model S owners.

    Tesla Motors has also partnered with Secure Parking to enable a safe and affordable location for Model S owners to park and charge whilst at work or out in town. These locations are centrally located across Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne.

  3. Lensman says:

    Well, you learn something new every day! I had no idea Tesla was selling not-quite-super-chargers for private use.

  4. Cosmacelf says:

    This is just a guess, but the lower charging speed may be more of a result of the customer not wanting to pay the utility for demand charges and installation fees, rather than Tesla crippling them.

    It would be nice if some reporter actually did some original reporting and contacted one of the private Supercharger owners to get the whole story.

  5. David Murray says:

    Aren’t superchargers comprised of individual modules anyway? meaning you could make lower powered superchargers just by using fewer charging modules.

  6. kalle says:

    here are some more info, (but in swedish)
    (google is your friend 😉

  7. JakeY says:

    I believe this is 2 stall, 60kW charger cabinet for $70k. Unknown if it includes installation costs (if it does, the price isn’t too unreasonable).

    Supposedly the low power is due to the location only have a 100A 400V three phase connection which can’t support the higher power.

    1. Lensman says:

      Likely that’s right, but I think Ambulator was correct, too, in the first comment here. Even if a customer had the full power of a Supercharger available, it would be unwise to use that to charge a Model S every time, as it would age the batteries faster than normal.

        1. Lensman says:

          Quoting from the article kdawg linked to:

          “While everyone agrees that DC fast charging does have some effect on battery life, it may not be as bad as previously expected.”

          Seems like a reasonable summary of the consensus of informed opinion.

      1. Kalle says:

        He dident buy them for himself tho, they are for public use, he just wanted his town to have a “almost supercharger”
        (Allso they are outside his shoping center)

  8. Alonso Perez says:

    I’m kind of wondering how the deal was made. Since this is not a public product, how did the Swedish businessman buy them? Did he make a request? Did Tesla contact him for some reason?

    1. Daniel says:

      All you need is $$$. Only commoners have to play by the rules.

    2. miggy says:

      These are known as Destination Chargers and if you own a hotel or shopping centre you can buy them from Tesla.

      1. Alonso Perez says:

        No, the destination chargers are lower power.

  9. Just_Chris says:

    Do Tesla make their own super chargers? I would have thought they just buy in components and assemble them.

    I guess the way the charger communicates with the car is propitiatory which is why there isn’t a Tesla plug on multi-standard DCFC’s and why there isn’t a Chademo to Tesla adapter. Maybe if they shared their communication protocol there would be a whole heap of 50kW Tesla chargers made by a range of suppliers but I guess that isn’t in the business model.

    BTW that isn’t a bad thing, Tesla need to make money like everyone else. I suspect in 10 years time they’ll be making quite a bit of money from their proprietary network.

  10. Someone out there says:

    That’s pretty neat but I think that if they are not accessible to the public they should look significantly different from the public ones. It could get confusing and lead to negative feedback if they are taken for official superchargers.

    1. James says:

      The owner, Mikael Blomqvist says he ordered the FastChargers ( not Superchargers ) because the infrastructure for chargers in Sweden is far behind everyone else, in his opinion. He often travels to the Bay Area, CA, and is inspired by Tesla.

      As far as he knows, he’s the first to purchase a Fastcharger from Tesla and the process took six months. He invites all Tesla owners to charge up at his station. It’s not on the Tesla database so he says Tesla owners need to put it’s location on their screens manually.

      He says it’s a new product from Tesla available to large customers for fleets. “Installation is easier than a Supercharger as no need for a substation, only approx. 100A three-phase.” – according to a Tesla Club Sweden post.

      The post goes on to say many commercial companies have purchased them, including a taxi company at Schipol Airport. Blomqvist is the first to open up such a charger to general use – the post goes on to say.

      1. James says:

        Since this area is not fenced off and looks accessible from the street, might I suggest Mr. Blomqvist add some protective concrete pylons around the two FastChargers. Those things stick out like a thumb at that location and look ripe to be smashed into by some big truck…Unless drivers in Sweden are much more conscientious and careful than in the United States.


        1. James says:

          Note to Jay: Feel free to update the story with this information.

          1. Jay Cole says:

            Thanks James,

            Nice picture, did you take it? Just need to know the source rights before we add to the story, (=

            1. James says:

              The photo and information are from a post on Tesla Club Sweden’s website by Tibor Blomhall. I see that Kalle ( above ) found the same article and also gave the link.

              1. James says:

                Notice they call them Fastchargers ( “Fastchargerns” ) and not Superchargers. Likely due to their lower rate of charge.

  11. zoe-driver says:

    So the best price/performance ratio seems to be AC charging with 43kw. This is around $2.000 for one charging box.
    The Chinese BYD and Renault ZOE currently do support fast AC 43kw charging.

    Maybe the next Tesla P120D+ will have 2 upgraded AC chargers (from 11kw to 22kw each) and capable of 43kw “cheap” AC.

    Just my 2 cents…

  12. Taser54 says:

    How many Swedish fish is that?

  13. Bill Howland says:

    Hummm, I wonder what size these really are? I’d assume the ‘chargers’ are actually 6 of the ’11 kw’ models used in Europe, or maybe even the American style ’10 kw’ units.

    We were led to believe only 9 or 12 chargers models existed but this article seems to imply 6.

    All I know is the recently turned up ‘Buffalo (Clarence) SuperCharger’ has a 114 kw demand on the revenue meter. So this must be a ‘120 kw’ model. As much as 110 kw to the car? Or is it less?