Tesla Model X Delay Makes Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine The World’s Most Powerful & Cleanest SUV

APR 30 2015 BY MARK KANE 23

Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine

Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine

Since the Tesla Model X all-electric 7-seat SUV remains heavily delayed compared to initial plans (scheduled for late 2013), the upcoming Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine plug-in hybrid has the chance to grab title of the most powerful and cleanest SUV.

The Swedish flagship is on sale now in Europe and will be made available for test drives this summer in America, with first deliveries happening in the US shortly thereafter.

According to Volvo, CO2 emission stand at just 49 g/km under NEDC driving cycle for hybrids, pretty low considering there’s 407 hp (320hp + 87 hp) & 640 Nm (400 + 240 Nm) of torque (ICE + EM) on tap.

All-electric range is 26 miles (17 miles expected from EPA).

“The XC90 T8 Twin Engine has exceeded all expectations when it comes to the no compromise equation of power and low fuel consumption, coupled with world class low emissions – and all in a 7-seat luxury SUV.

The improvement over the earlier announced figures were achieved thanks to the continuous innovation cycle at the Swedish company. The result of further tuning is a drop of 10 g/km from the initial prognosis, for up to 134.5mpg fuel economy, while also adding horsepower. This makes the XC90 T8 Twin Engine the clear leader in its segment, with an exceptional combination of low fuel consumption, emissions and pure power.”

“No other SUV in this class can deliver 26 miles of pure electric range, 0-62mph in 5.6 seconds and provide combined power of 407 hp – all in a 7 seat configuration.”

Dr Peter Mertens, Senior Vice President Research & Development at Volvo Car Group, stated:

“We have been working hard to earn our competitive edge and to give our customers the ultimate combination of performance and low fuel consumption. Our Twin Engine technology has enabled us to build on our heritage of efficient powertrain development in a completely new way. Thanks to our new scalable product architecture, and our world class four-cylinder engines, we have a clear and leading position.”

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23 Comments on "Tesla Model X Delay Makes Volvo XC90 T8 Twin Engine The World’s Most Powerful & Cleanest SUV"

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“All-electric range is 26 miles (17 miles expected from EPA).”

The average miles driven daily in USA is 37. Why bother with a PHEV that does not clear that statistical average?

AER < 37 EPA = Dead Dog In Race

I agree. I waited years and finally gave up on the XC90 T8. I’ll probably end up with a Tesla 70D instead…unless we get dates and prices for other futureAWD plug-ins in the next couple of months.

If Average Daily Miles Driven = From Home, To Work, & an Errand or two, then – IF you can get a place to charge up at work – this could still get the job done in all EV Mode: At least in Theory!

But as is – it also gives an opportunity for After-Market Add-in Batteries – Just like the very first Plug-In Prius’ – were done by after-market developers (Universities & Individuals) and businesses!

The Choice could be to make a ‘Power Battery’ – or a ‘Range Battery!’

The point of plug-in drivetrain is to give better performance than ICE alone. Electric motor can fill the gaps of engine and additional benefit is very high quality AWD.

It’s a joke ! The cartel is playing us again.

Jouni Valkonen said: “The point of plug-in drivetrain is to give better performance than ICE alone.”

Better performance is for sure a great selling point for EVs but most folks shopping PHEVs are desiring the majority of miles driven be electric and the ICE be a “range-extender” insurance (assurance) backup when needing to take a long drive. Who wants to screw with a plug for higher performance and little AER for a family SUV? Perhaps a BMW i8 yes but not a Volvo SUV.

If the engine and electric motor/motors are working in dantem, there are considerable fuel savings also. But XC90 is large car and I do not think that 87 hp electric motor alone offers very compelling everyday driving experience for such large SUV.

London is 12.5 miles across and the average speed of a vehicle is less than 10 mph. The drive cycle for this car is 90 mph down the motor way (25 min) followed by 45 min to travel 6 miles to the office. At least it will be able to do that 6 miles “emission” free. It is a welcome addition because it displaces a Range rover sport but don’t expect to make any sense out of a non-sense car bought by non-sense people who drive in massive congested cities in a land boat.

In short, I am really glad that there will be one more car with a plug in the market but gutted that there are so many people in the world who are sheep.

While more is better, my Ford Fusion Energi only goes 18-25 miles on a charge, but since I work from home and mainly drive as “Dad’s Taxi” it’s a very rare day that I ever use gas. Sure, I’d like to see more, but don’t poo-poo what works for a lot of people.

Yet again we have another Plug-in SUV available in Europe of all places, but NOT in the USA which is king of the gas guzzling SUVs. Why is that?

Maybe you need to put those large Europeans PHEV SUV into regional perspective to understand them better. I was in Stockholm last weekend. Many many Mitsu outlanders PHEV there. Why ? speed limit is 30 km/h (a bit less than 20 mph). Cities here are not so big as say, LA. So short EV range is OK, low power is OK. Tesla X is not really needed for those markets. London is another example where short range PHEV SUV has huge success.

It is being released in the US as well. I don’t think the T8 plug in is even out in Europe yet. I followed the XC90 T8 closely since it was first announced but haven’t been following it for the past month, since they announced the pathetic battery range.

Available in Europe approx late July. Available in US approx late September or early October.

“No other SUV in this class can deliver 26 miles of pure electric range, 0-62mph in 5.6 seconds and provide combined power of 407 hp – all in a 7 seat configuration.” This type of PR statement from plugin-lite offerings always irritates me. They all use this language. They start with the pure electric range number followed by what the uneducated customer will assume is the 0-60 performance of the previously stated propulsion mode. If they were honest it they would say something like: “No other SUV in this class can deliver 26 miles of pure electric range, 0-62mph in 15 seconds using only the electric motor and 0-62mph in 5.6 seconds using its combined power of 407 hp – all in a 7 seat configuration.” The XC90 T8 has a curb weight of 5,165 lbs! With it’s 60 kW electric motor it won’t be going anywhere in all electric mode unless it’s around the grocery store parking lot. To compare, the gen 1 Volt which weighs 3,786 lbs. and has a motor twice the size at 120 kW gets to 60 in 8.8 seconds. The Volvo will of course cut down quite a bit on gas usage for a… Read more »

Again, as a wrote above that kind of PHEV SUV is most probably intended for the European market. Thus rather small cities with very strict speed limitations. Bicycles do very well in those cities actually. Thus no need of high performances to drive at 20 mph (or 2 mph… in traffic jams most of the time). No need of long EV range as well. Amsterdam, London, scandinavian cities, Paris shortly (as a strict rules regarding emissions will be enforced there shortly). Obviously a Tesla X was made with longer distances in mind.

Man, that’s one MISLEADING headline!

“The World’s Most Powerful & Cleanest SUV…” — really?

Only if you exclude the 2015 RAV4EV, which is cleaner (with ZERO tailpipe emissions), has comparable acceleration (Zero to sixty in 6.8 seconds), and features an electric range (EPA estimate) of 102 miles — second only to the Tesla sedan.

FULL DISCLOSURE: I’m a Tesla Stockholder & RAV4EV Owner

There was discussion on Swede Speed forums about this a while back. You have to consider the & (and). lol.

There are certainly other SUVs that are more powerful and others that are cleaner…but this is the “most powerful and cleanest SUV”…at least until the Model X comes out. I have a reservation for and X but could end up with a S or something entirely different.

Mitsu Outlander PHEV will outsell this thing 2 to 1… if it ever comes to the US.

The PHEV Outlander is a 5-seater, and the T8 PHEV is a 7-seater. Not really competitive with the T8 XC90.

i’d take an outlander or rav4 over this and i dont even like suvs lol

Well, 17 miles of all-electric range is better than driving a pure gas guzzler.

But I’d like to have a car which can actually satisfy my daily needs running on electricity, and 17 miles would only get me about halfway across town, one way.

Now, this issue about European drivers driving significantly fewer miles per year than Americans: Perhaps that’s only because fuel costs so much more in Europe. Perhaps if driving were less costly per mile, we might see something like…

“Electric cars are motoring ahead with new research from Nissan claiming that its all-electric Leaf does almost twice the annual mileage of a conventionally powered car.

“British drivers of Nissan’s lithium-ion battery-powered vehicles average 10,468 miles a year – almost double the 5,215 miles covered by petrol or diesel power cars.”

source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/11333253/Putting-their-foot-down-Electric-drivers-do-double-the-mileage-of-conventional-cars.html

Really good link, my opinion is that the Nissan leaf was designed for the EU and took off in the US by “accident”. If you told me 5 years ago that 3-5% of Nissan’s total sales in the US would be an electric hatch back I would have laughed at you. Only because most American drivers appear to prefer saloons or SUV’s and I would have assumed that the extra driving distances would have made a BEV impractical.

IMO for the majority of drivers in the UK replacing their ICE car with a Leaf would have no affect on their life what so ever.

Anyone who thinks the T8 Volvo XC90 will be anything but wildly successful, needs to look at the numbers that have come out. The pre-order number for all XC90 models, including the gasoline version, topped at 36,000 just before it arrived in dealerships, beating the old XC90 pre-order number of 15,000 in 2002–and the old XC90 was a great success for Volvo. Volvo expected about 3-5% of new XC90 sales would be the T8 PHEV. Turns out, it’s gonna be closer to 20% of XC90 sales. If you can’t see the tidal wave building for the new XC90, both T8 and T6, you’re not looking very close.