Tesla Model S P85 Laps Nurburgring – Video

JUL 22 2015 BY MIKE ANTHONY 35

Tesla Model S P85 NurburgringThe video above shows a Tesla Model S P85 RWD lapping around the Nurburgring. Unfortunately, there is no sound.

However, you do get a sense of how quickly the Model S accelerates and how it’s able to rip around the corners.

The P85 Model S did the lap in just over 9 minutes. Not bad for a family sedan weighing ~4,500 LBS!

Video description:

“Lapping the legendary Nordschleife on a Toruistfahrt. Did this attempt on a fast lap, after driving electric “taxi” two laps. The Tesla was almost fully charged, regen put in low, suspension put in low, and A/C off. 2,5 bar of tire pressure in the tires, leading to a “Warnning high tire pressure” after about 1/3 of the lap. Potential of sub-9 minute lap.”

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Mark B. Spiegel
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Mark B. Spiegel

>>The P85 Model S did the lap in just over 9 minutes.<<

For some perspective, here's a list of 'Ring times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

Tech01x
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Tech01x

From that link:

“Some lap times are even claimed to have been done during tourist driving sessions. It is forbidden to race on tourist days as it is very dangerous to drive fast among the general traffic. One should not try to measure the lap time on a tourist day. Additionally, there are two speed limits (one in Breidscheid, and one on “Döttinger Höhe”) on tourist days, which also impacts the lap time.”

You can’t compare on tourist days.

See Through
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Was the Model S run on a tourist day? If not, then what is your point?
Tesla should be happy that it is close to the Ford Focus lap time of 9:05 minutes.

Just_Chris
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Just_Chris

I disagree completely there is a lot of value in comparing track times on the web link to the model S time…..

perhaps not a true representation of performance but the thought of a tubby accountant in his posh sports car loosing to someone in a Corsa or Honda Civic is very entertaining.

JakeY
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JakeY

Not sure if it is fair to compare to those times. Here you just have an owner doing a lap, not trying to break any record, while those examples were largely professional drivers out to set a record time.

Will
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Will

exactly. People are idiots if they think these lap times conclusive. It takes hours upon hours of practice and an intimate knowledge/experience driving the nurburgring to be able to push your car to the limit.

Put that Tesla in the hands of someone who knows the track and is used to racing, give them a clear track on a good day, not a damp-looking overcast day.

I reckon the car is capable of doing it in under 8 minutes. A proper fast driver may be able to shave off 2 minutes if they have the balls to corner fast.

european point of view
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european point of view

The well known Bjorn Nyland did the lap in 11’34 .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuPtPnK1cZY

philip d
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philip d

The title on that video is wrong. If you look at the comments from the video Bjorn is surprised when someone who was there corrects him and says that it was the S60 they were driving. And it overheated and went into reduced power mode 1/3 of the way in.

Londo Bell
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Londo Bell

“The P85 Model S did the lap in just over 9 minutes. Not bad for a family sedan weighing ~4,500 LBS!”

It’s all in perspective…

With the link provided by M.B. Spiegel, one should check out the lap time of those that are sub, but close to 9 minutes. Cobalt (SS)? Civic (Type R)? GTR (R32)?

Sold at a fraction of price of the P85. In that perspective, the lap time posted here is really NOTHING to brag about 🙁

Mike
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Mike

funny – reading that article there is Sabine Schmitz driving a Jaguar S-Type DIESEL in 9:12 for Top Gear

Nix
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Nix

That is somewhat my point in my post below. Put this car in the hands of Sabine, and the numbers would likely be different. So it is hard to compare a lap from a relative unknown driver, and lap times from ring regulars.

PVH
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PVH

It is funny how diesel cars performance perception varies so much according to continent. Around here I see every day cars fitted with VW 3 litres (180 cu in) TDI (turbo diesel), 0 to 60 in less than 6 seconds and electronically limited at 155 mph top speed. New 2 litre VW’s turbo diesel is 267 BHP. That is more than 130 BHP per litre (60 cu in). In comparison a Corvette with its 380 cu in engine should have 800 BHP to match the specific power a VW diesel fitted in a boring VW passat saloon. To close this, recent years winners of endurance races such as Le Mans 24h were Audi diesels, in front of Lambo’s, Ferraris, corvette Z06 etc…

Nix
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Nix

Well, to be fair, those times you are talking about were done by Motoharu Kurosawa, Horst von Saurma, and Motor Trend’s ring expert.

Nothing against Nils-Henrik Henningstad, but I’ve never heard of the guy. I don’t know his ring experience. On the other hand, those other times came from ring professionals with more laps under their belts than any of us could even imagine.

sven
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sven

Isn’t the track slightly shorter on Tourist days than the layout used for timed laps?

DonC
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DonC

Given I think there are at least 100 cars which have done the lap in under eight minutes, there may be 200+ cars with faster times than the Model S. Several Panameras in the sub eight minute group. It’s a family sedan that seats five. so it’s comparable to the Model S, and a minute is a long time.

I believe the problem with the Model S is that the battery pack overheats and reduces the propulsion power.

mr. M
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mr. M

Model S vs. Panamera seems to be a fair compare. I also read that the something in the model s overheats, hope they solved it with the new fuse for the 90D.

Dave
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Dave

It *is* a fair comparison. Tesla will say “guilty as charged, the Panamera beats us.”

However this won’t change Tesla sales one bit. There are thousands of buyers who don’t need or want to go to a track.

The Tesla is handily outselling the Panamera, last time I looked, which shows how critical track ability is. I.e., the Panamera might also add a few sales if it contained a dishwasher, which the Tesla does not.

pjwood1
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pjwood1

^This, because the Tesla offers more performance where you’ll appreciate it.

Porsche 956 overall record: 6:11
If we’re going to reminisce about ‘Ring times, those prototypes were awesome to watch. They competed, here in the U.S., in the 80’s. The 956 gave way to the 962, which a guy who made instructor the same year I did, bought and subsequently drove on club days. There was never a more magnificent sight to behold in your mirrors, however brief.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

mr. M said:

“Model S vs. Panamera seems to be a fair compare. I also read that the something in the model s overheats, hope they solved it with the new fuse for the 90D.”

I seriously doubt a new fuse will keep the drivetrain from overheating. Overheating would come from the motor or the inverter or the battery pack having more power pushed or pulled from it than it’s designed to handle for long. Putting in a more robust fuse isn’t going to change that.

Will
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Will

perhaps ‘part of the problem’ you also overlooked is that those lap times on that article are set by people who know what they’re doing. You can hardly call a Model S owner taking it for a spin as record-breaker material. Those lap times are showing you some of the fastest times those cars have set, having been driven hundreds of times by hundreds of people around the track; some people who’ve driven the track for years and know it intimately.

Anon
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Anon

Here ya go. Just like you asked for, “See-Through”.

Now, STFU.

Thomas J. Thias
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Thomas J. Thias

Meh, you commentators are missing the point of this Nürburgring run vidoe in a Tesla Motors vehicle.

Up until this video posted, the prevailing wisdom was that Tesla’s Thermal Management System would limit top speed distance runs.

Leave it to the professionals to set the record. This recent Nurburgring run, posted above, now discredit’s the previous, widely viewed attempted failure as seen and argued on these pages.

Now, as it stand’s, as of a month ago, timed top speed laps of the ring are now banned by management at Nürburgring Nordschleife and will be for the foreseeable future, after the horrific crash that left a spectator dead there, March of this year.

Link Goes To Car Scoops Dot Com-

http://www.carscoops.com/2015/06/nurburgring-ceo-officially-confirms.html

So, we can assume that this Tesla Model P85 Owner was effected by this new enforced speed limit and thus can not truly time run the “Green Hell.’

If Your Interested, This Link Goes To Road & Track Report On The Incident In March, on The Ring, that prompted The Speed Limits-

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/news/a25410/spectator-killed-others-hurt-in-horrific-nurburgring-race-crash/

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DonC
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DonC

I suspect this is a leisurely lap. As noted, a mini zips past without too much problem. At lower speeds the pack won’t have problems overheating.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

That’s my guess, too. Sure, if you don’t push the Model S hard, it won’t overheat and won’t go into reduced power mode.

This doesn’t really prove anything about the Model S. I if it “proves” anything, or more precisely if it’s evidence of anything, it’s that someone who’s not a race driver can’t push a car really hard in a twisty road race course like the Nurburgring “Green Hell” circuit.

pjwood1
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pjwood1

Thanks for the perspective, I think many of us share that the Tesla makes it around just fine, but may require tempering the throttle (for heat).

Your link makes clear ‘Ring management has issues with keeping fans where they belong. You could probably fit a half-million people in that ‘infield’ 😉 Good luck.

sven
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sven

What was the lap time of the Mini Cooper that passed the Tesla at 7:11 and eventually disappeared from view?

jdbob
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jdbob

2.5 bar? That’s awfully low (36psi in old timers units). I was under the impression that Tesla tires were normally around 50psi.

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

I’m guessing the driver reduced tire pressure to increase traction?

Pushmi-Pullyu
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Pushmi-Pullyu

Oops, I didn’t read the article carefully enough. It says: “2,5 bar of tire pressure in the tires, leading to a ‘Warnning high tire pressure’ after about 1/3 of the lap.”

2.5 bar is 36 PSI. Tesla recommends 50 PSI for 19″ tires, and 38 front / 40 rear PSI for 21″ tires.

Perhaps the high tire pressure warning was due to tires heating up under the strain of fast cornering?

LD
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LD

Tires get VERY hot during track driving. Typically you have to start with much lower cold pressures so that once they heat up they are at the right pressure for optimum performance. If you start at your normal cold pressure, they will get way over pressure when heated up on the track.

offib
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offib

Playing GT4 to GT6 for years, for some reason I felt a rush by just predicting each corner after the next.

Anyways, 9 minutes isn’t too bad, considering that an ordinary driver with a car he loved would rather drive home in the same car at the end of the day.

DonC
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DonC

I think the driver of the nine minute lap was a professional. It’s not the lap in this video.

european point of view
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european point of view

I even suspect it’s a fake .
Compared to other trials , that one is so good that it’s seems unlikely

Ken
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Ken

A Mini E did it in 9.5 minutes in 2010. Oh how i miss my Mini E!

Grendal
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Grendal

Not bad. I’m wondering if the new P90D Ludicrous would be able to do better on the track with its new fuses…

I can’t wait for Tesla to make a track ready electric car. Maybe the new Roadster once they get around to making it.