Tesla Model 3 Spotted In New Zealand Probably For Winter Testing

JUN 26 2017 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 27

Tesla Model 3

A lone Tesla Model 3 has been spotted in New Zealand. This marks the first ever Model 3 sighting outside of the U.S.

Jehan Kateli uploaded an image of a Tesla Model 3 spotted on a platform at Auckland Airport, the largest, busiest airport in New Zealand.

Kateli states:

“A Model 3 has been spotted at Auckland airport.”

“This is possibly the first ever Model 3 sighting in a country other than the USA.”

A Model 3 has been spotted at Auckland airport.

This is possibly the first ever Model 3 sighting in a country other than the USA.

Posted by Jehan Kateli on Monday, June 26, 2017

An additional sighting was posted by Ben Dyson:

Posted by Ben Dyson on Monday, June 26, 2017

Why is a Model 3 (left-hand-drive) in New Zealand? Our guess is that it will be hitting the roads for winter/snow testing soon. In the southern hemisphere, New Zealand is the place to go for testing during the U.S. summer months.

Link to image below.

Source: Jehan Kateli via NZ EV Owners on Facebook

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27 Comments on "Tesla Model 3 Spotted In New Zealand Probably For Winter Testing"

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theflew

Glad to see testing in cold weather. But hopefully this isn’t the start of testing given the car is going on sale next month.

Taylor S Marks

I expect that this is more of a “verify that the results we got in simulations and controlled testing roughly match real results” than an initial “Lets see if this thing can handle snow!”

Either way, I doubt we’ll see any Model 3s being delivered anyplace where snow is a concern for at least ~3 months. They’ve still got time to make some tweaks before deliveries to the Northern US starts if this testing exposes any problems.

theflew

You don’t test NHV (Noise, harshness and vibration) in simulation. For example does the console vibrate when it’s been cold soaked for 24 hours. Not everything can be solved with modeling. At some point you need to just drive the car. My point is you don’t do cold testing less than a month before release because the results could set you back weeks if not months to find and solve a rattle.

peetah

Auckland is the “north” island…they will no doubt be bringing that to the south island where there is more snow.

AaJTa

ok. thats good to see the extensive testing for the new mass market product.
Hope this creates a NEW History and drill the eyes of the cash cows trio (Gee yem, ifffoordth, ccchhrisssyer).
Let the climate change be controlled by we humans and not the corporates to dictate the plan.
🙂
Make a person Smile.

HVACman

Paraphrasing from the movie “Aliens” –

Ripley: How many cold weather tests for your Model 3 is this, Musk?
Musk: Thirty-eight. Simulated.
Vasquez: How many actual cold-weather tests?
Musk: Uh, one in New Zealand. We’re starting it now.
Ripley: And you’ve said you’ll start retail deliveries next month?
Drake: S**t.
Hudson: Oh-ho, man…

Nix

There are a number of closed cold weather test sites around the world where Tesla could have been doing testing entirely in secret. Just like the Ohio test site:

http://insideevs.com/hundreds-tesla-model-3-ohio-crash-durability-testing/

What I’m seeing is a car with absolutely no cover on it, which would simply never happen for overseas transport. We don’t even know whether this car is coming or going. I’m not buying that they flew this one car all the way from the US to NZ. Or that this one car somehow would represent 100% of their cold weather testing. None of that passes the sniff test.

Steven Morehouse

Why would it “simply never happen for overseas transport”? It is quite possible that it was required – for security and customs inspection reasons – to have no cover. It was flown, undoubtedly at incredible expense, to get it to a specific track for specific testing. It doesn’t need to “represent 100% of their cold weather testing” to be valid. To me, this is clearly for getting official data for their AWD.

Pushmi-Pullyu

“It is quite possible that it was required – for security and customs inspection reasons – to have no cover.”

If it’s common practice to put covers on cars to ship them overseas, and I think Nix is right on that, then why would the Model 3 be singled out for having that disallowed?

Your suggestion doesn’t pass muster.

Pushmi-Pullyu

“I’m not buying that they flew this one car all the way from the US to NZ. Or that this one car somehow would represent 100% of their cold weather testing. None of that passes the sniff test.”

Yeah, that is piling guess on top of speculation. Just one car for testing in snow/winter conditions? Not likely.

Steven Morehouse

No doubt for winter testing:

http://www.shpg.co.nz/

But I think it goes beyond that. I’m sure this is for AWD testing. They’ll have already tested the car for cold weather in a climate controlled box to make sure the motor works, the heating is sufficient, the windows don’t frost, etc etc. This is specific for testing that requires a track.

Nix

1) I’ve never heard of any testing by any car maker being done on a fleet of 1 vehicle.

2) The 3/2016 demo cars has AWD. They have had plenty of time to test AWD in winter conditions.

It is much more likely that they are going to do some B-roll filming in the country-side. It would have gone by boat to Australia.

GeorgeS

@Steven
Interesting. Thx for the link

Per “This is possibly the first ever Model 3 sighting in a country other than the USA.”, well, I have at least 2 coworkers who ‘Swear’ the saw a Tesla Model 3 in the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), of Ontario, Canada, some 8-9 Months back!

I called them on the likelihood that it was a Mazda 3, but they swore they saw the ‘T’ symbol of Tesla on it!

So, maybe they were passing through, on their way up North, to the Kapuskasing, Ont. area, where GM does Winter Testing!

http://www.wheels.ca/news/northern-exposure-tests-winter-wheels/

GeorgeS

Will the first production cars that get delivered in july be 100% validated cars complete with munroney sticker?

I really don’t know. It could be that tesla is using employees to finish the validation. I would love to see what the sales contract that the employees signed.

IMO the first cars delivered will not be fully validated and that the employees have signed a non disclosure agreement with some special terms.

Nix

It is illegal to sell a car in the United States without an EPA approved window sticker, and each unit sold could cost Tesla $1K per car:

“(a) Failure to affix required label

Any manufacturer of automobiles distributed in commerce who willfully fails to affix to any new automobile manufactured or imported by him the label required by section 1232 of this title shall be fined not more than $1,000. Such failure with respect to each automobile shall constitute a separate offense.”

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/chapter-28

GeorgeS

Ok thx Nix. I saw that the other day when u posted it.

georgeS

PS Nix,

Per wiki:
“The sticker must include the following information:

The manufacturer’s suggested retail price (MSRP)
Engine and transmission specifications
Standard equipment and warranty details
Optional equipment and pricing
City and highway fuel economy ratings, as determined by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
As of September 2007, crash test ratings as determined by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration”

So it looks like besides EPA ratings on fuel economy they need crash test results. Just a guess but I would think they will have those numbers by end of July along w/ EPA numbers.

However that doesn’t mean that the car is fully validated. and fully validated is probably at the discretion of the manufacturer.

So it’s possible that the employees do get cars with Munroney stickers but that those cars are not fully validated in Tesla’s eyes and that the employees are completing the validation.

Yes?

Nix
There is no concept under the EPA rules of a vehicle being “validated”. As long as the vehicle being sold is substantially similar to the vehicle that was tested, and contains the same drivetrain configuration as the vehicle tested, the window sticker is considered valid. For example, if BMW wants to put a new stereo system in their SUV mid-year, or if Toyota updates their steering rack ratio just before launching a new sports car, they don’t have to re-test and apply for a new sticker just because of those updates. But if GM were to put a manual transmission into the Bolt, they would have to re-test and get a new sticker. Or if Subaru built a FWD sedan, they would need to re-test and re-sticker. __________________________________ Tesla reported in their Q4 2016 quarterly report that Model 3 “Initial crash test results have been positive”, so I doubt they would have any problems meeting the minimum safety requirements of “pass” (well below the 5-star test numbers that dominate the vast majority of Tesla crash test results). Any delay on crash test results would be just to ensure more 5-star results, not to be able to “pass” minimum standards in… Read more »
GeorgeS

So it’s possible that the employees do get cars with Munroney stickers but that those cars are not fully validated in Tesla’s eyes and that the employees are completing the validation.

Yes?

Pushmi-Pullyu

Nix said:

“As long as the vehicle being sold is substantially similar to the vehicle that was tested, and contains the same drivetrain configuration as the vehicle tested, the window sticker is considered valid.

“For example, if BMW wants to put a new stereo system in their SUV mid-year, or if Toyota updates their steering rack ratio just before launching a new sports car, they don’t have to re-test and apply for a new sticker just because of those updates.”

I’ve always wondered just how much change an auto maker can make in a model of car before it has to be given new crash tests and/or new EPA ratings for MPG or EV range.

Obviously, as you say, minor changes not affecting the car’s structural integrity, powertrain, or suspension, won’t require a new round of tests. But who determines what is, and what isn’t, a change significant enough to require new testing? Does the auto maker itself make that determination, or does it have to get approval from the EPA to make a change without any new testing? Or what?

Inquiring minds want to know! 😉

Pushmi-Pullyu

“IMO …the employees have signed a non disclosure agreement with some special terms.”

I, too, have wondered if Tesla will require Tesla employees to sign a NDA as part of the agreement to sell them an early production Model 3; an NDA prohibiting them from public discussion of any flaws in the early production units. If they do, then of course that won’t stop leaks and rumors, but it would cut down on the inevitable negative posts on social media.

Note I’m not advocating that Tesla do so. I’m a strong fan of Tesla, but that doesn’t mean I think we should muzzle discussion of actual problems with the cars. Fake problems made up by FUDsters (“Tesla is hiding a problem with suspension which is killing drivers!”) is another matter; shooting is too good for such a-hole trolls.

DJ

Well with them delivering some cars next month it’s good to know that they’ve got them fully tested.

Kdawg

Brace yourselves.

Pushmi-Pullyu

“Why is a Model 3 (left-hand-drive) in New Zealand? Our guess is that it will be hitting the roads for winter/snow testing soon.”

Oh, why settle for such a mundane explanation?

Perhaps it’s there for something much more interesting. Can the Model 3 survive an orc attack? And if it does, test it to destruction by exposing it to the ray from the Eye of Sauron! 😀

Grant

I thought I saw a vehicle that resembled a Model 3 in the Blue Mountains (Katoomba) about a week and a half ago. I saw the Tesla badge, and it was similar, but not the same body shape, as the Model S (which I’m quite familiar with). It was quite dirty and seemed to have been taken through its paces.

I was unable to snap a pic at the time, and given there had been no public information or sightings otherwise, I wrote it off to being my imagination. Given this sighting in NZ, perhaps I wasn’t dreaming after all?

William

Yippee! A Kiwi Model 3!
Whale Rider was a pretty good show, but, I can’t wait for Model 3 Rider, starring 400K + Tesla reservation holders.