Tesla Confirms Model S CHAdeMO Adapter For US Coming This Winter; Pricing Starts at $1,000

OCT 7 2013 BY ERIC LOVEDAY 70

It’s official.

Tesla to CHAdeMO

Tesla to CHAdeMO

Rumors have persisted for some time now that the Tesla Model S would be able to charge at CHAdeMO stations soon.  Tesla confirmed this to be true for Japan, so we suspected the same would be the case in the US.

Tesla Motors has now made it official.

If you hit up ShopTeslaMotors.com, you’ll see that the CHAdeMO adapter is listed under Model S.

Here’s the description that goes with the adapter:

Take advantage of CHAdeMO’s network of 50 kW charging stations by enabling onboard hardware and purchasing an external adapter. CHAdeMO stations charge at the rate of approximately 150 miles (UPDATE: previously the website states 70 miles) of range per hour of charge with locations primarily in the Pacific Northwest.

This adapter is specifically for North American Model S. A separate adapter is required for European and Asian Model S. For Model S without Supercharging enabled, onboard hardware must be activated to use the CHAdeMO adapter. Every 85 kWh Model S is already Supercharging enabled.

CHAdeMO Charger Me

CHAdeMO Charger Me

Adapter
For Model S with Supercharging enabled
Available online this winter
$1,000

Adapter + Onboard Hardware Activation
For Model S without Supercharging enabled

To order before your Model S delivery, email buildmymodels@teslamotors.com.
$2,400
After Model S delivery
Available online this winter
$2,900

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70 Comments on "Tesla Confirms Model S CHAdeMO Adapter For US Coming This Winter; Pricing Starts at $1,000"

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David Murray

Cool.. This will help establish Chademo as a standard outside of just the Leaf. Now we can say it works with Nissan, Mitsubishi, and Tesla.

GeorgeS

Yes David. Especially since those new SAE chargers are so rare.

It is especially good for me here in AZ. The supercharger network is non existent for me on the east side of Phx and the little town I live in 150 miles to the NE of Phx. This adapter would allow me to get to Phx and back. Good work Tesla.

What do you suppose a Nissan dealer would do if a Tesla S showed up to use their charger??

pjwood

I bet even Monster Cable is jealous of Tesla’s adaptor margins.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Lol.

People should note that the adapter is limited to 70mph. Don’t know whether that’s a physical adapter limitation or Tesla’s evil plan to have Model S drivers hog all of the CHAdeMO chargers.

scottf200

I wonder if the infrastructure/installation of the chademo chargers are *mainly* setup for ~25kW max charging which seems to be what the LEAF (and i-MEV) does? See this chart:
Charging Power as a Function of Time – EPRI LEAF
EPRI – Elect Power Research Institute – http://www.epri.com

Dave R

By far most installed CHAdeMO stations are of the 50kW variety than 25 kW. Only a few 25 kW stations exist in the USA that I am aware of…

io

Blink’s are 60kW.
AV, Eaton… the majority indeed, are 50kW.
The only 25kW station I know of is the EvOasis/Chargepoint Fuji unit in San Juan Capistrano. One unit.

Note that those numbers don’t directly translate into charging speed anyway; see http://insideevs.com/tesla-confirms-chademo-adapter-for-us-coming-this-winter-pricing-starts-at-1000/#comment-175080

David

You realize of course that this isn’t a simple cable adapter, moving this wire to that wire. Its more complex than the EVSE you pay $1000 for. It has to understand each protocol and convert between them, likely with a microprocessor and good bit of circuitry. It then needs to manage the flow of 40kw of power which requires massive and expensive components. Its a expensive adapter to design and make. Margins might not be that great especially considering limited quantities that may be sold.

Dave Williams

It doesn’t have to regulate anything. The CHAdeMO charger would still do all the regulating. It just has to do the protocol conversion.

Brian

Did Tesla just cement CHAdeMO’s standing as the public QC of choice? This allows CHAdeMO to fill in the gaps between Superchargers (which make a great looking map, but leave many routes out of the question). The trouble is, there are practicallly no CHAdeMOs in the northeast. I say bring on the chargers already.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

I’m not sure.

CHAdeMO chargers are only 50kW, and still expensive enough that they’re really only a nice emergency charger, not a long-distance charger.

For the Model S, the 70mph limit means the Supercharger will still be the go to charger, but it might help bridge some gaps and allow people to push the range a bit while the network is built out.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney

Although, I guess that if cheaper CHAdeMO units are $10k and continue to fall in price it could become an “event” (2-4 hours of charging) standard.

Aatheus

Once more than one public CCS station exists in California, I am sure that Tesla will offer a CCS->Model S adapter. But there are currently a lot more CHAdeMO stations in CA. It will be interesting to see where we are in a year or two.

JakeY

Not really, all Tesla has to do is to release CCS adapter (which they are almost guaranteed to do once enough chargers are installed) they are back to being a “neutral” party.

And I do note they waited until a couple days after the first publicly operational CCS station was turned on before announcing this adapter. Could be a coincidence, but could also be Tesla trying to be neutral in the “connector wars”.

Wow, that looks huge. Maybe it’s just the scale. Is there an SAE adapter yet?
How much does this thing weigh? Is that cord flexible? How much stress are you putting on the little Tesla port?

Taser54

Meet the Godzilla plug adapter. Good move by Tesla given that they already built it for the Japanese market Teslas.

George B

Yes, I believe it’s the Japanese market, which prompted them to complete work on this adapter and start marketing it.

Bloggin

So Tesla’s away from home and with no Supercharger available, can use a Japanese standard as a backup to charge if necessary. And help sell cars to consumers who don’t live near a Supercharger station.

As the roll out of SAE Combo chargers kick in for 2014, SAE Combo adapter will be next. Clearly it would not make sense for Tesla to offer an adapter today, with only 1 SAE Combo charging station available.

Ocean Railroader

This sort of changes the game rules in that I had always thought that Tesla would come along with their superchargers and make this type of plug obsolete do to it being faster. But now it starting to look like you would see tons of these types of plugs locally and see the Tesla supercharger which might make these local chargers used far more then the superchargers do to them being very common. Now the question is could the existence of this charger raise the number of users a great deal in that there are now over 14,000 Teslas out there that can now use these networks.

Taser54

IMHO, Only a small portion of existing Model S owners will purchase this adapter. It is far more likely to be sold to new Model S owners at the point of initial sale (where accessories are normally purchased).

There are actually a lot of people on the TMC forum that have been dying for this. There will at least be a large number of purchases after it goes on sale.

Ocean Railroader

What is nice now is that if I have a reason to say that adding one of these things to say a local parking lot can now allow it to charge a Tesla.

There are many places in the county where there are many of these types of chargers and Nissan wants to build hundreds of them along with several public charging companies. This is very ground breaking news in away.

KenZ

Well that’s an interesting thought to be sure. Say you’re the owner of a network of CHAdeMO chargers. You buy a bunch of Tesla adapters, in bulk, from Tesla, possibly even just about cost (since you’re effectively helping Tesla here). Now you tether it to your chargers (with an overmold or something to make it relatively unstealable), and… bingo… now you have more customers. Get Tesla to list those in the car’s nav system as secondary “medium rate” pay chargers. Customers with the disposable income to pay your rates, too, regardless of the relative slow charge rate compared to a supercharger. Interesting. Good idea O.R.

Tom

It’s a little odd since, when I use QC on my Leaf, it charges at a nearly 50Kw rate… I wonder why Tesla is limiting it to 25Kw… There are some QCs that are limited to less than 50Kw due to power issues primarily, but they are the exception…

io

I was wondering about the same thing. I think they got their “70mph” number wrong.

It would be embarrassing for Tesla to enter the Japanese market with a luxury car that cannot charge at least as fast as much cheaper EVs…

io

AHA! As a matter of fact, Tesla fixed its website, it now states “150 mph”.
http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters/products/chademo-adapter

So yes, the adapter passes 50 kW. Good.

Remaining question now, is it capped at that power (or more likely, some other limit, like the 125A commonly seen today for CHAdeMO connectors), or could it go higher too, like Blink’s 60kW, all the way to CHAdeMO’s 200A, 100kW max?..

io

Something interesting re pricing: after SC activation, the CHAdeMO adapter is only 400$.

http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters/products/enable-supercharging
http://shop.teslamotors.com/collections/model-s-charging-adapters/products/chademo-adapter

Tesla leverages one to push the other, nice!

George B

That is a GREAT price. Wow.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

I still think they should have a barn door ‘grille’ behind which there’s space to put in one or more optional alternate charger ports, so you don’t have to worry about carrying adapters around, losing them, etc.

JakeY

The inverter/motor/charger and high voltage cabling is all in the rear (12V accessories are in the front), so it’s not really practical to add a barn door like the Leaf has in the front.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Run some extra cable, much easier and lighter than an exhaust or fuel system..

JakeY

Then you have to run another high voltage cable through the middle of the car and that’s a pretty long wire run (~15 ft, effectively doubling the length of the cable that comes out of the DC charger). That’s in general not preferred (voltage drop considerations probably), which is why the front-motor/inverter Leaf has the charge ports in the front, and the rear-motor/inverter iMIEV/i3 has it in the rear. I take it there’s also emergency responder considerations (you can cut into an exhaust system with no harm, can’t do the same with a high voltage cable).

An adapter with a short wire is much simpler.

Dan Frederiksen

That’s all kinds of ugly