Tesla CEO Elon Musk Says Supercharger Travel Across All of U.S. (- Northern Alaska) Now Possible

3 months ago by Eric Loveday 83

Superchargers In North America

Tesla CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter in July to provide us with a Supercharger coverage update for the U.S., Europe, China and Japan.

According to Musk, driving a Tesla is the U.S. is almost fully supported by the Supercharger network. The only area not include in the Supercharger coverage is the remote reaches of Northern Alaska.

Musk’s Tweet On Supercharger Coverage

Coverage outside of the U.S. is expanding too. Musk notes that most of Europe is now Supercharger supported. So too is China and Japan.

Here are some maps showing coverage outside of the U.S.:

Superchargers In Europe

Superchargers In China And Japan

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83 responses to "Tesla CEO Elon Musk Says Supercharger Travel Across All of U.S. (- Northern Alaska) Now Possible"

  1. SJC says:

    Superchargers build the brand, no better ads nor customer relations for the money.

  2. jdbob says:

    Needs a couple of Superchargers along US395 in Northern California and Oregon.

  3. chris5472 says:

    Uhm, don’t get me wrong: I love Tesla’s supercharger network. This is (and will be for the near future) THE big advantage over every other manufacturer that offers EVs.
    But as of right now there are still quite some gaps in the network – especially if you live in North Dakota…
    The grey marks on the map indicate “planned”, not “finished/open” charging stations.

    1. Nada says:

      Agree this anouncement is a bit premature…
      Acording to Teslas site there is a 350 mile stretch on I 10 with no superchargers yet that spans Tucson to El Paso and Alberquqe (spelled wrong)…

    2. M Hovis says:

      Two really big southern gaps. I40 between Oklahoma and Arkansas, I10 between Tuscon and El Paso.

      1. Paul Smith says:

        Quit whining, it is not possible to cross Canada….and Elon is Canadian!

      2. jim stack says:

        MH, I agree They really should finish the Tucson-Texas route before bragging. It’s set for 2017 and was set for 2016 .

    3. Nix says:

      living in North Dakota?

      can you REALLY call that “living”?

      /sarc

      Seriously though, they are a bit short for the return trip. You can REACH anywhere in the US by supercharging, but you have to charge somewhere else to get back the the supercharger system once you get there.

      Getting there One-way with a supercharger, and then having to charge on the same charging infrastructure that the rest of the Plebeians who don’t have supercharger access shouldn’t really count as being able to go everywhere.

      1. Mikael says:

        Hypermiling does not count. Antler, North Dakota has 425 miles to the nearest super charger.

        Imagine a Model S60 in the winter…

        1. Ted says:

          The 27 people who live in Antler, ND and their friends who visit them will have to settle for gas cars for the next few years

          I’m certain that Tesla’s network will continue to expand as it starts selling more cars.

          In the meantime, maybe you could talk some hotels on those northern routes into installing Tesla destination chargers.

  4. Vexar says:

    Apparently, North Dakota has seceded from the Union. You’re better off as part of Alberta, anyway. Much more in common.

  5. Tom says:

    I remember in the when Rand McNally left ND off the map. It’s easy to do.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1989-10-07/news/mn-640_1_incomplete-atlas

    1. ffbj says:

      ..and probably not a bad idea. No one really wants to go to Nodak.

      1. Tom says:

        In Elon Musk’s defense, North Dakota isn’t anywhere, it’s nowhere.

        1. Anon says:

          *Hint to ND: Buy More Teslas’*

  6. Kdawg says:

    There’s no Supercharger in Hawaii either.

    1. Big Solar says:

      I dont think any of the hawaiian islands need one. (maybe the big island)

      1. Kdawg says:

        I was pointing it out more as a technicality that Musk’s statement isn’t 100% correct.

        1. Anon says:

          Interesting fact: He’s never 100% correct, just MOSTLY correct. And as far as the Universe is concerned; that’s what actually matters in this rev/sim.

          1. Kdawg says:

            Are you trying to be more anal-retentive than me?! How dare you!

          2. bro1999 says:

            Beats the pants off the President, who’s almost never correct.

    2. speculawyer says:

      Don’t really need one but they do have one coming to Honolulu.

      1. alohart says:

        High percentage of apartment dwellers in Honolulu, many of whom have no place to charge overnight. Although I was able to install a charging circuit in our Honolulu apartment’s parking garage parking space, the process was long and expensive, so many apartment dwellers may not want to pay the price. That would not be such a problem for Model S or X owners, but many Model 3 owners might be stretching their budgets just to buy a Model 3. So being able to charge at a conveniently located Supercharger might allow them to become Model 3 owners.

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          alohart said:

          “Although I was able to install a charging circuit in our Honolulu apartment’s parking garage parking space, the process was long and expensive, so many apartment dwellers may not want to pay the price.”

          I sincerely appreciate you taking the trouble and expense to be a pioneer in this area. Hopefully you have helped blaze a trail which others will find easier to follow.

          For the EV revolution to triumph, it will have to become standard to find an EV slow charger beside every parking space where people park overnight or long-term.

          P.S. — How should we parse “alohart”? The connection between “aloha” and Hawaii is obvious, but the “…rt” is opaque to me.

          1. unlucky says:

            Maybe his name is Art.

          2. Four Electrics says:

            There are over a billion vehicles in the world, and each one has an overnight parking space. Is that one billion slow chargers?

            1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

              Sure, why not? There are probably that many houses, too. Sadly, not all are equipped with electricity, but they should be.

              If you’re afraid of big numbers… well, I’m not.

            2. wavelet says:

              No, many of those vehicles have no fixed overnight parking spot.

              1. John says:

                I don’t think he stated it was a fixed parking spot. Just a spot. And if every spot had power, problem solved.

                1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

                  Correct.

                  Putting slow charge points in for every designated parking spot would be going very far in the right direction, but still doesn’t help people who have no designated parking spot. For example, those who park on the street in residential areas with no driveways.

      2. Kdawg says:

        Honolulu has one coming? It’s not showing up here https://supercharge.info/.
        Maybe they just haven’t reached the permitting phase yet.

        1. Priusmaniac says:

          Getting a Supercharger construction permit in Hawaii might not be as easy.
          Hawaii has been refusing the super high tech TMT permit because of so called “sacred land”. They are stopping technology, literally and retarding by years our access to new knowledge.

          http://www.huffingtonpost.com/catherine-bauknight/hawaii-supreme-court-inva_b_8779624.html

  7. speculawyer says:

    The Supercharger network is a HUGE competitive advantage for Tesla. And since the rest of the auto industry can’t get its act together, the Supercharger network will remain a competitive advantage for many years.

    The Chademo & CCS DC-fast-chargers are slower, less reliable, and haphazardly distributed.

    1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

      Their waiting for the third party to get them online just like those legacy gas stations.
      So they stand firm on their ZERO support for their EV/PHEV products.

      Many times I’ve encountered Chargers that don’t even work or only half of them work.

      It will be their downfall and well deserved.

      1. speculawyer says:

        The whole charging situation is a bit of a mess. It is hard to build a good business model out of it.

        I have also experience many broken chargers.

        As long as the charger networks remain underfunded, non-standardized, poorly distributed, etc. Tesla will remain a huge advantage over everyone else trying to make & sell EVs.

    2. Priusmaniac says:

      Indeed the Supercharger network is a major advantage. Even billions of dollars would not be able to create such a similar infrastructure.

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        Overnight at least.

      2. Heisenberghtlocoschoko says:

        “Even billions of dollars would not be able to create such a similar infrastructure.”

        You are 100% right! In fact even an infinite number of dollars would not be able to create anything.

        Creation is done by god, her creations and some of their creations (excluding dollars). No worries I am no creationist! In fact I am no ist at all. Just jerking around in the universe 😉

  8. John in AA says:

    I’ll have to tweet him an image of what my car tells me if I ask for a route to Copper Harbor, Michigan.

    1. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

      Dude, post it here…….lol

      No *I* want to see it.
      😛

    2. Jim says:

      Should be doable in a S100D (via Wausau). But you’ll never be able to go home. Which is the real problem with the way they display the bubbles on the map.

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        It depend if they make the bubbles as a return range or not. If you have a supercharger following, the range should be considered but if there is none, the bubble extension should indeed be limited to the return range from that last supercharger.

        1. Mikael says:

          When I use supercharge.info I put the bubble range at 110 km (68 miles).

          That is the half the range of a quick stop at the supercharger. Any many supercharger are at ~200-220 km apart for that reason.

          Then you can see what is your range to get there and back on a normal quick charge. And if there is another supercharger close enough to actually continue travel then the bubbles connect quite nicely.

          This is what I consider covered:

        2. unlucky says:

          I agree that when you make the bubbles the size of the whole range it means the chargers are really only good for driving through an area or spoke trips from the charger.

          So it’s great for cross country driving but not so much going places along the way.

          But still it’s quite a bit of infrastructure. No doubt about that.

    3. John on AA says:

      Too much work to post a picture right now, but the nav system tells me “no Superchargers available within range of destination”. From Ann Arbor, it tries to route me through Wisconsin. Last charging stop is in Sheboygan, charge to 100%, arrive in Copper Harbor at -26%. This is in an 85D, which means you’d need a (hypothetical) 107D to do the trip.

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        Perhaps you can find an alternative charging point on the road but if there is none you will have to use plan B:

        https://www.amazon.com/Portable-Camping-Electric-Generator-2-Stroke/dp/B00FZYT2PU

        1. John in AA says:

          Heh. Nah, there are enough L2 stations and campgrounds with RV outlets in the Upper Peninsula that string and baling wire is not required. Just no Superchargers.

  9. Longvsshort says:

    Let’s leave the grey spots out. Dreams aren’t achievements.

    1. floydboy says:

      They’re not “dreams” they’re plans.

  10. ffbj says:

    This is sort thing that evs are up against.
    It’s pretty bad:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Lo0ieyQtQ

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Good grief. 🙄

      Big Oil certainly has lots of money to spend on propaganda like this, as well as lobbying in Washington and the State capitols, doesn’t it?

      Fortunately, economic forces are more powerful than even Big Oil’s propaganda and lobbying. Big Oil can slow the EV revolution, arguably it’s already doing so; but Big Oil can’t stop it!

    2. Priusmaniac says:

      The video is mixing true and false. True the car is unique in allowing personal freedom, false ev have more than 100 miles of range. On the other side living in Hell, l mean Brussels, the rest of the forced public transport and war on parking places is actually very true here. Oh yes car size reduction, by tax, as well by the way.
      Well, overall the movie is not that wrong after all except ev range and the pretended pollution stuff.
      That’s why we need 400 miles ev range with 150 KWh batteries, recycled of course, and with Megachargers.

  11. Roy_H says:

    Superchargers are not the only places to charge your Tesla. Adapters are available for any electrical source. Yeah, I know they are slower, not free etc. but it’s not like you will be stranded.

  12. Tosho says:

    “most of Europe” is not quite accurate 🙁

    1. Mikael says:

      Isn’t almost a third the same as “most of”? 😛

      Elon rarely gets it this wrong but I guess someone shower him a 2019 supercharger map instead of the current one. 😛

  13. Someone out there says:

    So now you can drive to Hawaii in a Tesla? Cool! They are definitely ahead of the competition on that!

    1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      Is there an undersea tunnel from the mainland to Hawaii? Gosh, Musk’s “The Boring Co.” is a lot farther along than I realized!

      /snark

      1. Priusmaniac says:

        That would be easier than land tunnels thanks to submerged floating tunnels.
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Submerged_floating_tunnel
        For Hawaii it would take a bottom anchored tunnel.
        https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/_Yasir_/floating-tunnel
        Some interesting proposals discussions.
        https://www.tunneltalk.com/Strait-Crossings-Jan10-Conference-report.php
        http://ascelibrary.org/doi/full/10.1061/%28ASCE%29WW.1943-5460.0000175

        1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

          Thanks.

          That idea was used in Harry Harrison’s 1972 alternate-world novel Tunnel through the Deeps

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tunnel_Through_the_Deeps

          1. Priusmaniac says:

            You are welcome.
            Thanks for the reading idea.

  14. DaYoopersNeedEVs says:

    Nothing in the upper peninsula of Michigan.

    1. unlucky says:

      Even true if you aren’t restring the discussion to Superchargers.

      Despite the title, there’s none at all in Alaska either. You can’t really drive in southern Alaska, little reason to have Superchargers. But interior Alaska could maybe use some.

      1. DaYoopersWantSC says:

        LOL. The U.P. is beautiful. Pictured Rock National lakeshore is my favorite hiking/camping destination from my childhood.

        And of course you have Michigan Tech.

    2. Kdawg says:

      I’m surprised how cold Michigan is, especially da UP eh? that there aren’t more engine block heater plugs. Then we could use that conversion tech being implemented in Skandi.

  15. CDAVIS says:

    “…Tesla’s biggest and most important competitive advantage…It’s the Supercharger network…”

    Source:
    http://www.businessinsider.com/tesla-supercharger-network-advantage-2017-2

  16. Al says:

    That’s great! I’ve had a Tesla Model S for nearly 3 years and I’ve never used one and probably will never need to.

    1. Kdawg says:

      I’d probably be in that boat too. Before the model 3, i said i would even pay the $2k to join the SC network, know that I wouldn’t use it. It’s just that warm-fuzzy insurance policy that allures.

  17. Dan says:

    perhaps this should be anywhere that matters.

    There seems to be a big swatch of area in western NY between Buffalo and Albany and North to Watertown, south through PA that don’t have any superchargers. So only if your traveling from t1 city to t1 city.

  18. Tyl Young says:

    Big oil’s best use of their (excuse me..OUR) money is to direct it to Tesla so Tesla can add superchargers at the rate of 100 per day!
    Indeed that would fill in the gaps quite quickly. …and it would help bring to an end the micro particles of petroleum we breathe in each second we are on the road. It might even cure cancer and who knows whatever other illnesses that petroleum soot causes.

  19. Epicurus says:

    Why didn’t GM, Nissan, BMW, and the other EV manufacturers just buy into the Tesla network and unify around the Tesla recharging standard? That should have been a no-brainer.

    What were they thinking? Do they think?

    1. unlucky says:

      Because they aren’t interested in their competitor controlling part of their business?

      What happens if Tesla holds them over a barrel on price? What happens if Tesla doesn’t hold them over a barrel on price in the first year but later wants to do so? Then a company has to decide whether they lose access to fast charging or line their competitor’s pockets.

      Why didn’t Tesla use OnStar? Same reasons.

      It doesn’t make sense to have a portion of the cost of your cars be determined by what your competitor wants to charge you this time around.

    2. Nix says:

      A number of those companies are skipping sub-150 kW charging, and pushing 350+ kW charging stations. They are coming next year.

      Tesla’s 5 year long supercharger advantage will likely not last another 5 more years. Even Elon states that the superchargers are going to have to go higher power. With that said, having a close to decade long advantage is certainly helping Tesla gain market share.

      1. Some Guy says:

        To be honest, everybody else is at the moment talking about something they want to do in the future at soem point, with the occasional prototype “semi-public” station unveiled. They all still need land and permits to deploy their own network, and probably don’t have all the equipment ready for deployment. In addition, bean counters inside possibly counteract a deployment of charging infrasturcture.
        Tesla already has the land and permits on its existing sites. So if higher power is aspired, perhaps a small effort in repermitting (if necessary at all) and some changes to equipment during regular maintenance and it’s done. That surely is again way faster than building everything from the ground up.

      2. Doggydogworld says:

        Tesla’s advantage may not last 5 years, but it will last 3-4. There are a ton of problems depending on 3rd party fast charging:

        1. Chicken/egg. Third parties can’t make money on chargers without a lot of EVs, but carmakers can’t sell lots of EVs without chargers.

        Tesla broke the chicken/egg by putting a lot of money-losing chargers in remote places.

        2. Hodge podge of CCS/Chademo, different companies (some with special cards), intermittent operation, 3rd party apps to find stations and check status, etc.

        Superchargers are available 24×7 with high uptime. Paying is simple (or free). It’s one-stop shopping convenience.

        3. Slow speed. Upgrades will come, but be spotty and not coordinated with new car models.

    3. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

      “What were they thinking? Do they think?”

      What they were, and are, thinking is that they make more money selling gasmobiles than EVs, and the last thing they would want to do is to spend money on making EVs more competitive against their own gasmobiles.

      As an EV advocate I don’t like it, but it certainly makes business sense from their viewpoint to not support or participate in the Tesla Supercharger network.

  20. Alex says:

    The second most often asked question as per Elon is about superchargers. Their number is getting close to 400 already, and keeps growing.

    The first superchargers went online in 2013, and I find the progress to date quite remarkable.

    Wouldn’t find the source right now, but it took over a decade to connect most of locations to the grid. And some places are still not connected.

    1. Mikael says:

      The number is closer to 1000. And it will probably reach 1100 before the year is ended.

  21. Alex says:

    You need to produce cars in sizable amounts before even considering investing into supercharging network.

    Most car makers still talk the talk but don’t walk the walk.

    Supercharging network will remain major Tesla advantage and important entry barrier for competition. But those who prefer to wait and see will have to pay the price. The sales of ICE cars has already peaked.

  22. Grey dot says:

    Guess the grey dots count…lol So it is possible to get in my imaginary tesla model J and drive anywhere…

    He tells stories more then Trump to keep his stock price up.

  23. Brandon says:

    Tesla’s Supercharger network is truly remarkable, and having now achieved nationwide coverage is awesome!!

    In my estimation, it will likely be 2021 at the earliest for us to see a HPFC (150+ kW) CCS and CHAdeMO network of similar coverage here in the U.S.

  24. Denis says:

    Last time I checked, Europe does include countries like Portugal and areas like “Most of” Spain, Eastern Europe, and Russian part of Europe extending to Ural mountains, where Tesla is “planning” to establish presence for almost 2 years (dig into old maps of supercharges on archive.org). The definition of “most” in “Most Europe” is definitely less than 40% by land mass.

  25. alex says:

    Speaking of Russia. The market for model S or X is very limited. Mostly Moscow. Tesla is not yet officially present in the country.

    In all fairness Tesla superchargers follow Tesla sales. As they should.

    It will take some time before Ural mountains will see some Tesla superchargers.

  26. ModernMarvelFan says:

    Still needs coverage along US-50 across NV.

    Why would we need the coverage on “loneliest road in America”? Because if you want to visit Great Basin National Park, you have to use US-50 to save a big chunk of time/distance way out of the way…

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