Tesla Autopilot 8.0: “Three Strikes” Safety Feature In Action – Video

SEP 27 2016 BY MARK KANE 27

The latest Tesla software update version 8.0 strengthens the abuse protection against improper use.

Tesla software update 8.0

Tesla software update 8.0

After a few minutes of driving with Autopilot’s Autosteer engaged, the system sends visual and later audible signals to prompt users to keep their hands on the wheel.

If the car still does not detect wheel contact after a series of three warnings, the car will shut down the Autosteer for the remainder of the trip.

To re-engage Autosteer, the driver is then required to stop and switch to park mode, prior to reactivation.

“We take a quick look at how long before Autopilot notifies you to put your hands on the wheel. Also, what warnings you would need to ignore for Autosteer to be Unavailable.”

source: Teslarati

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27 Comments on "Tesla Autopilot 8.0: “Three Strikes” Safety Feature In Action – Video"

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What happens next? That is the interesting part!
Does it stop in the middle of the lane, drives to the right lane and stops, drives off the cliff if this happens in the middle of the curve?
I did not yet see any info about that?

It beeps continuously, and slowly disengages the throttle as shown in the video.

I’m not sure I agree that the video shows that. The driver took over almost immediately after autopilot disengaged. The decision to switch control back to a human who is not paying attention to warnings is troubling.

What should it do?

I think little mechanical hands with white gloves on should deploy from overhead and slap the driver silly.


Or a little squirt of water in the face.

Not in the face ! How would you expect drivers to take over if you spray water at their face.

Spray that water between the legs. Much more useful… and efficient.

+1. LOL. I love this response for two reasons: 1) it is hilarious and 2) it actually represents a better design than the Tesla approach of turning control back to a driver that is not responding to warnings. In all seriousness, the car needs to continue to increase the ‘annoyance factor’ to get the driver’s attention. A loud buzzer. Perhaps vibrating seats next. Perhaps an even louder buzzer next. Anything to ensure the driver is alerted (or awakened) before control is turned back over to the driver.

That is the $100,000 question. What should it do? It seems to me that if vehicle control is passing from one ‘controller’ to another, the new person in control should acknowledge that they accept the role of being in charge. Imagine a pilot flying a plane needing to take a bathroom break. It seems logical that he would ensure the co-pilot was fully aware that he was now in charge of flying. The pilot would not ask and leave to pee without the co-pilot acknowledging in some manner the change in command.

There is LOT it could do.

The car should not just “completely” give up control the moment it realizes it doesn’t know what’s going on.

I should warn the driver to take control, but continue doing “something” — slowing down “intelligently” would seem to be the safest thing, to some extent (but obviously not slamming on the brakes, and certainly not if it can sense another car is quickly approaching from behind).

It should turn on the hazards to warn surrounding drivers — and perhaps even emits some warning honks (which would also help alert the driver, if they are really not paying attention), depending on how “panicked” the car is.

There is a lot more the car could do that simply “relinquish” control and hope the human takes over everything next. It could automate many things in an effort to minimize danger an (though hopefully not) impact with something.

I go into ‘Park’ during stop & go and at stop signs, to toggle between ‘creep’ mode. I like that:

-Drivers are getting this warning
-That its penalty is not really so severe

It’s pretty easy to touch the wheel, now and again. No AP 8.0, yet. What I think is a bigger improvement is the slow-colission prevention, with higher Auto Emergency Brake (AEB).

If a driver is asleep, the appropriate behavior is *not* to disable Autosteer. The car will crash quite quickly, and badly. The correct response is to bring the car to a complete stop.

If Autopilot cannot do that, it was released too early, and poses a safety hazard. Humans need to actively *do* something in order to remain vigilant. Telling someone to pay attention without any tasks to do will cause the brain, subconsciously, to stop paying attention, or even fall asleep. We’ve seen this time and time again with Autopilot crashes.

This is why other auto manufacturers are waiting for level 4 autonomy. This is also why Autopilot has a per-mile fatality rate which is at least 13x higher than non-Autopilot Teslas. Two fatalities over a hundred million miles vs. three traffic fatalities (one a rear-end collision, and one that Autopilot also couldn’t prevent) over *two billion* miles.

+1. Excellent point on level 4 autonomy. I am beginning to see the wisdom of the ‘all or nothing’ approach with respect to autonomous cars. It would be a terrible shame if Tesla failed due to a sea of bad PR and litigation as they attempt to gradually work their way toward full autonomy.

Four Electrics whinged:

“The correct response is to bring the car to a complete stop.”

In the middle of a busy highway? Especially a freeway, which is the kind of road where AutoSteer is intended to be used?

This is the typical sort of nonsense we’ve come to expect from serial Tesla bashers like Four Electrics.

If and when Tesla’s Autopilot advances to the point that it’s appropriate to describe it as truly autonomous driving, rather than just advanced driver assist features as it is now, then it would be appropriate for the car to react by pulling over to the shoulder and parking. Of course, that means it’s going to have to be able to discern the difference between a shoulder where it’s safe to park vs. one where it’s not.

And until Autopilot is that advanced, it certainly looks like Tesla has chosen the safest course of action, despite this whining from a serial Tesla basher.

It sounds like you have a personal grudge or vendetta against Four Electrics, and automatically attack every comment that he posts. It’s never too late to grow up, put on your big boy pants, and stop the personal attacks. Your whining about someone else’s alleged whining is getting old, real quick. 🙁

Agreed. It should never have been marketed or designed as “autopilot” but rather “smart assist” where the driver thinks (s)he’s driving normally but the car is doing it in parallel and would take over if it detects dangerous situations. That would require the same AI but would keep the driver in the loop.

“Telling someone to pay attention without any tasks to do will cause the brain, subconsciously, to stop paying attention, or even fall asleep. “”

Yes, this is the key point !!!

Was the “max 75” a programmable limit? If so, does this allow accelerator to be floored without going above the setting?
If so, this would be a major improvement to any cruise control. When needing to back off a bit (traffic merging etc…) it would not require pressing brake pedal and turning cruise off followed by resetting.
Side note; maybe using the auto lane change resets the warning timer.

I like it. It is an improvement.

It would also be better if they reduce the amount of time allowed without hands on the steering.

If it reduces it to only 2-3 seconds, then drivers would have been more engaged thus reduce the chance of becomes more distracted.

I don’t understand why it would allow 4 minutes of unattended driving before quitting. Why not 30 seconds? Time to take a sip of coffee, light a cigarette, change music, but not so long that you wouldn’t drift off.

Smoking while driving is dumb.

Also unpleasant to the car behind you (yes, you can smell it) or next to you at a stoplight.

Smoking is dumb.

Fixed that for you. 🙂

Vaping is also dumb. You still get hooked/addicted to nicotine, but at least you’re not dramatically increasing your likelihood of getting emphysema, lung/mouth/throat/esophagus cancer, hardened arteries, a heart attack, etc., and then burdening society with your health care costs.

Never underestimate the ability of an idiot to abuse new technology. College kids will give new meaning to the term “creep mode.” 🙂

See: “Canada Predicts Self-Driving Will Bring a “Lot More Sex in Cars,” Says Don’t Do It” https://www.inverse.com/article/15095-canada-predicts-self-driving-will-bring-a-lot-more-sex-in-cars-says-don-t-do-it

Soon some rule-breaking college kids will be the first to livestream themselves doing it in a Canadian Tesla. (Though it would be funnier if they waited to autodrive through Intercourse, Pennsylvania).

What will the creeps tell a cop when when the Tesla goes into a ditch? “Officer, I was parked on Lover’s Lane. “Creep mode” was on, so it rolled forward a little on its own. Its not our fault, blame Tesla. My girlfriends body was on the wheel and she probably bumped the autopilot stalk up and down. So don’t ticket us. 😛

Tesla should do still more. The so-called “Autopilot” should disengage as a car approaches triple digit speed or is being drag raced. Then the registered owner of the car will have to convince Tesla in writing that he/she deserves the feature re-enabled.

Tesla should do still more. The so-called “Autopilot” should disengage when a car approaches triple digit speed or is being drag raced. Then the registered owner of the vehicle will have to convince Tesla in writing that they deserve the feature re-enabled.