Sono Picks Up Continental Electric Drive Unit For Sion

NOV 24 2018 BY MARK KANE 24

Sion will be powered by the 120 kW Continental drive unit

Sono Motors announced that its Sion solar-powered electric car will be equipped with Continental’s drive unit (electric motor, power electronics and transmission), as Continental becomes a long-term partner for production.

The motor is rated at 120 kW and 290 Nm, which sounds like way more than enough for such a small car, but at least it will be fun.

“Their integration into a single system unit reduces the size and weight of the drive system, thereby boosting the vehicle’s performance. The drive system, which has already been validated, can be incorporated into the Sion without the need for any additional significant development work and is therefore in keeping with Sono Motors’ innovative carry-over parts strategy.”

Roberto Diesel, CTO of Sono Motors said:

“Our decision to work with Continental marks the conclusion of another important stage in the preparation of the Sion’s series production. With Continental, we have found an experienced system partner with high automotive standards who shares our enthusiasm for innovative vehicle development solutions and whose name stands for quality and the height of technology around the world,” .

Sono Motors currently has about 8,800 pre-orders for the Sion (paid at least €500). The price of the vehicle is to be €16,000 excluding batteries, which are expected to cost additional €9,000 for total €25,500 (€29,000). Previously, the company hoped to offer batteries for around €4,000, but that “is no longer realistic”.

Customers will be able to purchase batteries or lease them for €90 – €140  per month.

“The Sion has a battery capacity of 35 kWh. The optimized engine reduces the vehicle’s consumption. The hitherto communicated range of 250 kilometers has now also been confirmed in simulations in accordance with the new Worldwide Harmonized Light Vehicles Test Procedure (WLTP) standard as being of 255 kilometers. The choice of a front-wheel drive also further increases drive and recuperation efficiency.”

Sono Sion spec:

  • 35 kWh battery
  • 255 km (159 miles) of range (WLTP) – simulated
  • 120 kW and 290 Nm electric motor

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24 Comments on "Sono Picks Up Continental Electric Drive Unit For Sion"

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my guess , they will loose pre-orders due to the much higher battery price. 250€ / kw is way overpriced.
Tesla is at a price tag of +- 100€/kw. price of 20000€ was just too good to be true.
on the other hand the enige has 50% more power , from 80 to 120kw.
but anyway , its still the cheapest ev with these specs.

Their problem is that there is a battery crunch atm because of every manufacturers acceleration of plugin car development. It’s a temporary problem, capacity is very quickly being built, but for small players like Sono it means paying through the nose. They could probably stick to the old selling price if they would make the solar installation optional. I think

While lots of capacity is currently being built I have to believe the battery crunch will continue as BEV sales continue to rise eating up that capacity…
Not only do legacy manufactures have capacity issues both Tesla and BYD have stated battery capacity is an issue…

Yes that would be the logical thing to do. However it’s a key part of the cars proposition , many will buy it only because they have this vision they will never plug in, or hardly ever and don’t work through the numbers to see that’s an illusion.
Even if it truly meant they never plugged in, that means the reality is they are saving a handful of charging sessions every year, eg it’s inconsequential. Remove that feature which people want without realising it’s pointless, and it’s got very little going for it apart perhaps from the abilty to tow. (Even low weight towing is useful not everyone wants to tow a massive RV, just something for messy or awkwards stuff you don’t want inside your car.

It’s pretty much the same price as Renault Zoe with 41 kWh battery. The Sion has more trunk space, tow hitch, some solar cells and faster charging (CCS). Zoe has 6 kWh more battery, good reputation, a reliable dealer network and a facelift wit CCS coming soon. We will see…

the zoe cost 10.000€ more i think.

the sion is 16.000 for the car and ~8.500€ extra for the battery.

the zoe is 27.000€ (correct ?) and around 9.500€ extra for the battery?

so battery price is nearly equal (due to higher battery), but base price for the car is way higher.

An interesting extra which others don’t have is V2x connection already built in

No, it’s not the cheapest because the vehicle is vaporware until they can reliably produce, sell and maintain thousands of cars on the road at that price (hint: They can’t, unless they get a €30M or so investment.)
Simply doing the safety tests for homologation (requires destructive testing for several prototypes for crash & fire testing) and then fully instrumented testing for emissions & performance takes several million Euros.

Dead on arrival. More expensive than an ID that has better specs and way better technology.

Forget the ID, the new generation of the e-Up will offer roughly the same range at even lower costs.

Still hope they make it. Competition and choise is good.

That looks to be a much smaller car than this.

https://insideevs.com/volkswagen-e-up-now-almost-e4000-cheaper/
“VW decided to decrease the price by €3,925 to €22,975”

“In 2019, the future e-up! is expected to get a next-generation version, also available as the Seat e-Mii and Skoda e-Citigo. Range is expected to increase to 270 km (168 miles) WLTP with a starting price below €20,00”

Wish they would sell it in the US 🙁

It’s small but would definitely have a market at that price and for that range.

What ID are you talking about? Wasn’t the Neo supposed to be around $30k?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-08/vw-is-said-to-plan-21-000-subcompact-e-car-to-challenge-tesla

ID NEO
“VW has said it will be sold for a price of a comparable diesel car, suggesting a price tag of roughly 23,000 euros” = ~26K USD

There was a post on here I believe that said it will have a slightly lower price thean the eGolf….but this is the first time I’m seeing its price compared to the gas versions. Not sure i buy that…still, i hate them for not bringing it to US.

Actually they keep repeating that it is going to be a similar price as a Diesel Golf. But around 25’000-27’000€ is more likely. But we will find out next year…

Who said VW is going to sell ID. They will keep teasing forever.
Imagine their 1 liter car which sold only 250 units and then folded up.

Because this EV is the only product of Sion, they will try all they can to sell as much as possible.

€25,500 for a 159 mile / 250 km range is reasonable.

They would have wasted alot of money if they didn’t produce and sell the ID. And they need to do it, to reach CO2 emission targets in Europe. There is 0% chance they are not going to bring it to market.
They did not rebuild a whole factory for the 1liter car you are mentioning. It’s a completely different story.

Not next year. Especially not without autonomous features.

Great to see progress. I hope they can keep their pricing schema similar and not loose the pre-orders they have massed so far. Good company and I had the pleasure to test drive a car and interview one of their engineers a couple of months ago. You can check this out on my YouTube Channel “EV Revolution Show”. Best of luck to them!

I remain highly doubtful on this. A vehicle company needs LARGE investments to build & maintain a service/demo drive network (including training the sales- and service people) — whether or not you buy the cars themselves from the company directly is irrelevant — carry an inventory of spare parts, and keep to decent production costs. Otherwise they’re going to keep have nasty surprises like the battery suddenly costing 125% more than promised. Right now, they’re pricing the vehicles at the raw cost of components, which isn’t scalable or doable beyond making a couple of prototypes. They’re basically charging for the car as if they were Nissan, which has huge economies of scale and a _lot_ of experience in streamlined production & supply-chain management, and so far, the entrepreneurs have valued their own time at zero. Again, not scalable ones they hire workers.