Since Japan Has 1,600-Plus CHAdeMO Chargers At Nissan Dealerships, U.S. Should Have 2,500

JUN 28 2015 BY MARK KANE 11

EV Quick charging point (CHAdeMO) in Japan

EV Quick charging point (CHAdeMO) in Japan

Nissan stated in its 2015 Sustainability Report that Japanese dealerships already installed 1,640 CHAdeMO DC fast chargers as of March 2015.

That’s over 30% of the 5,418 reported in Japan as of the end of May.

There are over 53,500 LEAFs in Japan, so one DC charger at dealership falls on 32 LEAFs. If we include all the chargers, the ratio is nearly 10 cars for one DC charger.

“Nissan is encouraging local governments, public and commercial facilities and others in Japan to install quick chargers. It is also enhancing charging infrastructure by continuing to increase the number of Japanese Nissan dealerships with quick chargers, which stood at 1,640 as of March 2015.

Quick chargers, which can charge batteries from zero up to 80% capacity in around 30 minutes, are a key part of the infrastructure needed for the widespread adoption of EVs. Nissan launched its quick chargers in 2011. In the following year, the company improved them to make the chargers quieter and the connector easier to use, as well as enabling on-the-spot payment.

In May 2014, Nissan jointly established a new company, Nippon Charge Service (NCS), with other Japanese automotive manufacturers to promote installation of chargers for electricpowered vehicles (including EVs and plug-in hybrid vehicles). Under NCS management, the companies aim to provide a convenient charging network service letting drivers charge their vehicles anywhere with a single card.

Nissan has also started working with companies that support the spread of EVs by installing EV chargers in their workplaces to make it easier for employees to commute using the Nissan LEAF.”

We count 80,000 LEAFs in the US, so Nissan should’ve already installed 2,500 DC chargers at its dealerships or partners to keep pace with Japan, but there are just 1,238 chargers total (different owners, not only Nissan) according to the CHAdeMO Association.

Nissan of course is installing DC fast chargers in US, but at a much slower pace and is trying to use the independent infrastructure through “No Charge to Charge” program:

“In the United States, Nissan launched its “No Charge to Charge” program, which provides free access to selected charging stations for two years with the purchase or lease of a new Nissan LEAF. As of March 2015, the program is running in 15 cities where Nissan LEAF sales are high, including San Francisco, Los Angeles, Seattle and Portland, and the company plans to expand to more cities in the future.”

In Europe, there were 1,838 CHAdeMOs reported by CHAdeMO Association. Again we don’t know how many were installed by Nissan dealers or partners. At 41,500 LEAFs, dealers alone should have 1,300 to be on par with Japan.

“In Europe, too, Nissan is focusing efforts on infrastructure by working with companies in the energy industry and others to install more than 1,500 quick chargers compliant with the CHAdeMO standard as of February 2015.”

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11 Comments on "Since Japan Has 1,600-Plus CHAdeMO Chargers At Nissan Dealerships, U.S. Should Have 2,500"

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Please…No more chargers at dealerships. This is a terrible place to put them. I really hate gettting harassed by salespeople every time I charge. Not to mention that they always seem to put them where the employees like to hang out and smoke. We also have several dealers in Colorado that are very unfriendly about the use of the DCFC if you don’t have one of their dealer stickers on your car. I know I could call Nissan corporate about that, but I’m not the charger police and I have better things to do. Several of the dealers in the state actually keep the DCFC behind locked fences or have the mains locked down so they can control who has access. Very frustrating. I’m much happier to see the NRG sites popping up around the state. They may be expensive, but at least they consistently work and are set for full-speed DCFC unlike the dealers that all seem to have them dialed down. They are also in locations I like to visit like retail centers. Hanging out at a dealership talking to smoking salespeople is not my idea of fun. BTW – the two exceptions to this in Colorado seem… Read more »

And there you have the perfect reason to get a Tesla (new or used) the next time you’re shopping for an EV.


Nissan Corporate cannot do anything. Each dealer sets their own policies.

Heck, there’s even this one dealer that LIED and claim to honor Nissan Employee Pricing but gave me a quote that was way inflated. When I insisted on employee pricing, he said “come visit us and I’m sure we can find something for you”.

So nope, talked to my corporate contacts and the best corporate can do is “advise” them on best policy practices.

So yeah, agreed. Please, no more chargers at dealerships. Some are good, some are terrible but when you are low on charge, can you risk it?

DCFC at Dealerships is all well and good, I wouldn’t discourage it. But to rely on dealerships as much as they do is a bad move given the mixed experiences drivers encounter.

It’s a shame dealers don’t see this as a possible revenue source. Add a burger king or Starbuck to the dealership and give people a reason to visit.

Gas stations make most of their money selling things other than gas. Free fuel is an attraction, but of no value to the dealership if you end up drink their complementary coffee and donuts.

These public chargers are just filling the gap until the 150+ mile EVs launch. At that point there won’t be much of a need for public charging, as owners would realize the real benefit of EV ownership, where their gas/charging station is at home in their garage. Leaving home each day with a full battery pack and enough for all their daily driving. No lines, no waiting, and energy at the cheapest rates.

For example, Tesla owners charge at home over 95% of the time, and their public charging is free.

I’m sure you feel that would be adequate, but for me, I fully intend to drive my long range EV much farther than that when I need to make a long trip. I believe that DCFC locations needs to be spaced +/- 50 mile intervals on all major arterial roads and all interstates so that long distance travel is doable. And, I’m not talking one plug at a site, but at least three with anti-ICEing signage displayed and enforced.

Dealerships are fairly terrible places for chargers for all the reasons AlanSqB describes above. I can never count on them being open and accessible. I only ever figure that they might be operational during normal business hours, which in my neck of the woods doesn’t even include Sunday’s (local ordinances close car dealerships on Sunday’s in some counties, but not others in my area)

If dealerships as a concept were less hostile to their customers I would have a different opinion.

Most of a gasmobile dealer’s income comes from servicing gasmobiles and selling replacement parts… often including such practices as unnecessary service and double-billing.

It’s hardly any surprise that they see EVs as undesirable products, since EVs require so little maintenance. Therefore, it’s hardly any surprise that most gasmobile dealers practice passive aggression against EV drivers.

One side benefit of the EV revolution is it will put and end to the parasites known as “automobile dealers”. And the parasites know it.

With you 100% on ridding the world of typical car dealers. They are worse than useless.

Dealerships are one of the worst places to install fast chargers. Put ’em along major highways and freeways on regional routes between large cities. If Nissan wants to get infrastructure right, look at the West Coast Electric Highway in Oregon and Washington, and look at what Tesla has done.

Admittedly dealerships are non optimal places to have the CHAdeMos for general use… but they should have them to demonstrate and properly sell the cars.
How likely are you to be able to sell a car if the customer comes to your place and asks to drive car 105 for example… but stock 105 is not charged. So rather than drive it to your DCFC and pop it up to 85% while you show the customer the features of the car… or the alternate scenario… you tell them that car won’t be ready for 4 to 9 hours… and are they sure they wouldn’t rather try out a nice economical ICEr.
This is not an ‘OR’ problem it is an AND problem. We need them at dealerships and along highways.