Mazda Might Finally Launch An Electric Car In 2019

8 months ago by Mark Kane 28

Mazda Hazumi

Mazda has hinted at an electric model coming in 2019.

European R&D boss Matsuhiro Tanaka said from the scene of the Geneva Motor Show this month that a small EV (sized similar to the Renault ZOE) is under consideration.

Mazda Hazumi

The Japanese manufacturer thinks that small cars should be the first to be electrified, as larger ones obviously need more battery capacity, and with that – weight is added.

“(A fully electric car) is one of the possibilities we are examining,”

“A small car is best for an EV because bigger vehicles get too heavy with bigger batteries, and that doesn’t make sense for Mazda.”

“If we put in heavy batteries, we need to do the opposite with the total weight. We are going to develop a new material technology in the future [to deal with this].”

More electric models, including plug-in hybrids are expected from 2021.

Mazda is now sourcing its hybrid technology (Mazda 3) from Toyota, so we need to pay close attention to both brands and read between the lines to know where those two EV-reluctant brands are headed.

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28 responses to "Mazda Might Finally Launch An Electric Car In 2019"

  1. From Mazda, one choice I would like to see, as a style jump back to the Original RX7, tweaked to have a Honda IMA (Integrated Moter Assist) type drive blended into the best Wankel they ever built, but in the original 70 Cu. In. Size, for launch torque, top speed, and fuel efficiency!

    1. SJC says:

      Mazda could break even on a 200 mile range EV and still get more revenue. People come to shop, they may not buy the EV but they are looking at all the Mazda models.

      1. Miggy says:

        It looks like an updated Mazda 2 which is a 1.5 litre petrol model. not sure if you get this model in the USA.
        Mazda have always did their EV testing on a Mazda 2 in the past.

        1. SJC says:

          We have Mazda 2 in the U.S. not a lot are sold there is a lot of competition.

        2. wavelet says:

          Yup. The Mazda 2, formerly called Demio (and still called that in Japan AFAIK) actually had working PHEV prototypes… Back in 2013.

          http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/2/first-drives/mazda-2-ev-range-extender-prototype-first-drive-review

  2. DJ says:

    M’ehzda…

    1. ffbj says:

      Yeah, that was funny!

    2. (⌐■_■) Trollnonymous says:

      lol, good one!

  3. William says:

    Is that so? I wonder if I should cancel my Tesla Model 3 reservation for the coming “Zoom-Zoom”?

  4. CLIVE says:

    Maybe

  5. Robert says:

    I like the look of it.

    1. CLIVE says:

      Yeah not bad at all.

      Like the pano roof

  6. AlphaEdge says:

    Model 3 aka Mazda 3. If a Chinese auto company created it, they would be accused of copying it.

    It’s good to see another car manufacturer see the writing on the wall.

    1. It looks like they just noticed the ‘Headline on The Wall’, but have yet to read the actual story!

  7. Toni says:

    “A small car is best for an EV because bigger vehicles get too heavy with bigger batteries, and that doesn’t make sense for Mazda.” – yet another fossil that does not know how EVs work. Weight and size have almost no impact on range. Aerodynamics is the main factor for range/needed battery size! And “small” cars have usually bad aerodynamics! (as example – the i3 has a smaller range with a bigger battery than the ioniq)

    1. DangerHV says:

      “Weight and size have almost no impact on range. Aerodynamics is the main factor for range/needed battery size!”

      False or exaggerated statement. This IS correct if 95% of your driving is at steady, level highway speeds. And EV’s have regen braking which recuperate energy in stop and go driving compared to ICE cars, but weight and size (frontal area) still play a large role in energy consumption in most driving conditions.

      If your statement were correct, we should have large, heavy (but aerodynamic) ICE cars getting 50 mpg.

      “And “small” cars have usually bad aerodynamics!”

      This I can agree with.

      1. Toni says:

        And yet another one….

      2. Toni says:

        Tesla Model S 100D – 298 Wh per mile
        BMW i3 – 289 Wh per mile

        The Tesla weighs twice as much as the i3

        1. DangerHV says:

          I found this but I’ll look further:
          http://insideevs.com/bjorn-nyland-conducts-energy-consumption-test-on-tesla-model-s-p85d-70d-and-bmw-i3-video/
          Much depends on conditions, as stated above. I will post any clear scientific references.

          1. DangerHV says:

            2wd Tesla S-75 vs BMW i3 EPA ratings. Test conditions presumably identical. As I see it, the BMW gets 32 MPGe higher rating in city driving and 6 MPGe higher on their highway rating.
            https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38558&id=38001
            Tesla = ~1000kg/2200lb heavier,. Tesla CDa = 6.2 sq ft, BMW CDa = 7.4 sq ft. I don’t know where your statistics come from, Toni.

            1. Toni says:

              My numbers are just battery size / EPA range.
              Even your numbers show a difference that is not very significant.
              My point is that those numbers clearly defy mazda’s idiotic “A small car is best for an EV because bigger vehicles get too heavy..”
              I guess they want to repeat all the “golf cart” EV mistakes instead of just using their brains for once.

              1. DangerHV says:

                Thanks for your clarification, Toni. Good Day.

  8. Adam says:

    So how exactly did Tesla make the S work with its big heavy batteries???

    Pity. Mazda makes a good quality fossil car.

  9. EVA-01 says:

    If Mazda corporate does green light this car, the platform will definitely be shared with Toyota. Mazda is too small of a company to spend research & development on just one car.

  10. Rich says:

    This is great news. One more automaker moving toward building EVs. I think Mazda makes great looking vehicles. I personally have never trusted the quality of their vehicles. With an EV drivetrain and batteries from a reputable maker, I might consider a Mazda. Hopefully, they’ll start thinking bigger and create a CUV/SUV EV instead of a tiny car.

  11. Rico suave says:

    Mazda, and how about Android Auto in current models? Why are you so lame about it?

  12. Scorpion says:

    “A small car is best for an EV because bigger vehicles get too heavy with bigger batteries, and that doesn’t make sense for Mazda.”

    How do these guys get their job??
    A given battery capacity displaces the exact SAME # of gallons, regardless of vehicle type!

    As a simple example, let’s say Mazda chooses a 16 kWk pack to max out the federal tax credit, and makes 10 kWh useable.

    If the pack was placed in a small, light, aerodynamic Mazda 3-equivalent EREV that got 5 mi/kWh in EV mode and 50 mpg in charge-sustaining mode, the pack displaces 5 x 10 = 50 miles, or 1 gallon for each full discharge

    If the same pack was placed in a Mazda CX-9 EREV that got 2.5 mi/kWh in EV mode and 25 mpg in CS mode, a full discharge of the pack would displace-get ready for it!- 2.5 x 10 = 25 miles, or ALSO 1 GALLON

    HOWEVER: this pack would represent a HIGHER % of the 3’s weight and a LOWER % of the CX-9’s weight.

    There is absolutely no need to give the CX-9 the same # of EV miles as the 3 (which WOULD result in a pack that weighs more, but depending on its specs, the % of vehicle weight could still be less, the same, or slightly more).
    A larger pack only results in psychological satisfaction to the CX-9 driver that he/she gets the same # of EV miles as the 3, but it has nothing to do with economics. Economically, the two packs are identical, because they would cost the same and the payback would be the same since they displace the exact same amount of gas.
    It would be more economic for Mazda to share a pack across multiple models, so I really have no idea what this guy is talking about.

    One other note: even though packs of a given size and useable capacity displace the same amounts of gasoline, regardless of car model, hybridizing larger vehicles always saves more gallons than hybridizing smaller vehicles.
    If Mazda made standard, non-plug hybrid versions of the 3 and CX-9,
    then a driver upgrading from a 30mpg 3 to a 50mpg 3 hybrid would save 200 gallons/year @ 15k mi/yr.
    A Mazda driver upgrading from a 20mpg CX-9 to a 30mpg CX-9 hybrid would save 250 gallons/year @ 15k mi/yr.
    250 gal > 200 gal
    Of course, in this case the CX-9 would require more battery capacity than the 3, so the best metric would be gallons displaced per annum per kWh of battery, but the argument still holds: society is better off putting electrified drivetrains in larger vehicles.

    Apparently, the needs of society don’t match up to well with Mazda and other automakers’ priorities.
    This seems like just another attempt by every non-Tesla automaker to make EV’s seem like small, underpowered dork-mobiles that involve compromises and sketchy economics as they continue to push (and heavily advertise) their SUV pork-mobiles.

  13. Mil says:

    I feel Mazda’s “dipping toes in the water” of EV cars will be shooting themselves in the foot. Bringing an EV out in 2019 may be too little, too late given the pace that other companies are moving. However, if all they are doing in 2019 is bringing an inferior car in very small volumes then it’s like they are unloading a 12 round shotgun into both feet.