Putin Likes Tesla, Knocks Electric Vehicles

3 months ago by Anthony Karr 46

Russian President Vladimir Putin

Russian people no longer driving “horse-driven carts or tanks,” president says.

Russian president Vladimir Putin took part in the Russian Energy Week held in Moscow earlier this Fall, and talked about his relationship with his American colleague Donald Trump and North Korea. He also discussed energy sources and electric cars, claiming they are the future, but currently internal combustion vehicles are still better for the environment.

“I would like to note that we believe natural-gas-based motor fuel to be a much more environmentally friendly type of fuel compared to electric cars…” Putin told the media (via en.kremlin.ru).

“Of course, we need to move towards transition to renewable energy so that it becomes the number one energy source, but it will be at least 30 years before that happens. For now, it is unclear to us how it will play out, since technology for using coal and oil is also improving.”

Sounds like a guy addicted the business of exporting oil to us.  But when asked whether he can see himself driving a Tesla model, Putin replied:

“Why not? We are open to it. We buy everything useful and sell everything that brings profit. I do not see anything special about it. Do you think we only ride around in horse wagons? No, we do not ride horse wagons anymore. Or maybe tanks? Tanks were pretty good, though.”

During his speech, Russia’s president explained that he likes the “light, fast and efficient” of electric cars that he’s been shown during his visitations to the United States and Japan. “I certainly can imagine [buying an electric car]. And I will definitely declare it, addressing those who are scrutinizing my material status.“

Putin is known for his passion for all kinds of cars, including retro Soviet machines.

As Bloomberg recalls, he once took former U.S. president George W. Bush for a drive in his classic GAZ-21 at his residence outside Russia’s capital. In 2010, Putin drove a Lada Kalina for more than 1,200 miles (1,930 kilometers) to promote an upgraded section of a highway in Russia’s far east.

Vladimir Putin’s full speech can be found here.

Source: The Moscow Times (via Motor1) and Bloomberg

46 responses to "Putin Likes Tesla, Knocks Electric Vehicles"

  1. scott franco says:

    Russia continues to rely on its natural resource sales, such as oil, to support the economy while exporting its smartest people to other countries. Its not a surprise that they don’t support EVs.

    That story does not end well.

    1. scott says:

      Their economy will be destroyed by mass adoption of electric vehicles.

      1. mx says:

        Getting into solar wouldn’t be hard.
        India and China are doing it on a massive scale.
        Nothing’s stopping Russia from doing it and they can export their solar power to Europe.

        But, we’ll see if he’s smart enough.

        1. Ambulator says:

          Nothing is stopping Russia? In summer, maybe, but they are pretty far north. How much solar can they get in winter?

          1. Windbourne says:

            Totally agree.
            It amazes me how many of the AE extremists really do not look at reality.

          2. Toby says:

            They are on latitude 60. Same as me and my panels provide 100% of my electricity 8 months of the year.

        2. SCOTT says:

          Russia a kleptocracy mafia state. Putin came into power by bombing his own people. More recently Putin shot down an airliner full of people and blamed it on Ukraine.

          The sheer criminality of the Russian government is stopping them from doing quite a bit.

          1. jusuf says:

            Usa politician is”not cleptocratic”hillary and bill boy”?!hahahavaaaa

      2. menorman says:

        Not worse than Venezuela’s, though. They still have an EU addicted to their natural gas to rely on.

        1. AndY1 says:

          Still better than to rely on expensive american import of LNG.

    2. John A Brewer Jr says:

      That’s one thing Russia current government and US’s has in common is a strangle hold of oil lobbyest influence on each prospective gonverments. The US does has an advantage, education to us from George Washington quote that still carries on today: “A just estimate of that love of power, and proneness to abuse it, which predominates in the human heart is sufficient to satisfy us of the truth of this position,” and so the Freedom of presuit economic choice has swept the world with help of Volta and others including Edison, Watson, Tesla an other inventor’s proved later electric propolsion is more efficient, and storing it recently with Musk , so the EV is now a movement is now showing up in macro economics as a result is slowing the tankers across the oceans is a good thing in reducing innafficiant use of providing energy and robbing the poor and working tax payers of all citizens thus freedom of choice will provail!

      1. SCOTT says:

        Edison simply stole other inventors ideas and pawned them off as his own.

      2. mx says:

        The US is moving to college so expensive, only the kids of the 1% can afford it. And DeVous Charter schools that don’t require qualified teachers to teach.

    3. Electron23 says:

      He elected Trump and is destroying America with only few hundred thousands dollars. Very smart guy.

  2. zzzzzzzzzz says:

    Who cares what some putin or lukoshenka or kim or other bloody dictator said about cars? Isn’t there something more relevant to write?

    1. ffbj says:

      Yeah, what zzzzzzzzzz, said.

    2. Bill Howland says:

      HAHA!!

      Well if we’re forced to listen to Pushi’s Drivel I think we can listen to a pragmatic world leader.

      While many here are kicking and screaming about it, Russia and China are gaining influence in the middle east and South America, and a greater percentage of the world in general.

      Many countries have learned a sore lesson not to trust Western Institutions such as the International Monetary Fund – which can’t point to a single success story, but then that was the whole idea.

      They just do internationally what people like Willard (Mitt) Romney’s Bain Capital do to companies here – namely slice and dice everything, put everyone out of work, load the entity up with debt, and then cash out huge payments for themselves and leave everyone else holding the bag. Everyone of Mitt Romney’s businesses ends up being GOOD FOR HIM, not so good for those holding the bag.

      Russia and China tend to always honor their agreements, at least internationally, whereas the US always lies, lies again, and then lies about lying. As a for instance with Nato Expansion such that there are 11 Nato bases right on Russia’s borders.

      HOW DARE THE RUSSIANS LOCATE THEIR COUNTRY IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL OUR BASES!!!

      According to the U.N., Russia would be within their rights to destroy all 11 bases since they are a hostile power on their borders, but they simply keep negotiating and getting the short end of the stick.

      So – as regards this little break from realpolitik – Putin’s favoring Natural Gas vehicles makes sense for Russia.

      CNG (apparently mostly used in India, and a bit in the middle east, and Italy) is a very efficient delivery method of energy, since it requires merely compression into the vehicle, and, with proper equipment, could be done at home today. The wells to wheels efficiency is the highest of any mode of transportation, other than using exclusively solar or water or wind power to charge batteries of EV’s (what I do myself in my own home).

      But for any application in my home requiring heat, even though I use 100% solar for my electricity and battery charging needs, I use Natural Gas for them (I have 8 gas appliances at my home) since it is the most efficient way (and cheapest) to provide the heat required.

      1. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

        “Nato Expansion such that there are 11 Nato bases right on Russia’s borders.”

        Yes, and with good reason. You apparently have not noticed that the United States’ neighbors, most notably Canada and Mexico, are not concerned about American tanks rolling in to take over their country, as has happened with many of Russia’s neighbors, most recently Ukraine.

        Interesting to see that in addition to being a hardcore conspiracy theorist and extreme climate change denier, Bill, you’re also a Russian sympathizer.

        1. SCOTT says:

          Would you expect a Russian troll to talk badly about Russia? I wouldn’t.

          Russia is a third-world mafia state with an economy smaller than that of California. Putin has stolen over $200 billion from the Russian people. I don’t see the future looking very bright for Russia.

          It will be nice when Trump is gone and we can arm Ukraine and let them deal with Putin.

          1. Bill Howland says:

            “We can arm Ukraine and let them deal with Putin.”

            Uh, huh – Does anyone seriously believe that Russia couldn’t obliterate Ukraine in under 24 hours?

            Its the US (rather, people doing horrific things in my name – mainly bombing countries that can’t defend themselves), that goes around ‘eliminating’ countries.

            That is why, when annoucing plans to support President Assad in Syria – at his United Nations Speech, V.V. Putin said regarding the USA:

            “Do you REALIZE what you’ve done – you’ve DESTROYED all these Sovereign Countries!”.

            I don’t understand why, on this website, there is all this hatred of Russia, and its democratically elected President. Their congress, the DUMA, usually agrees fully with Putin’s statements and the only complaints he gets from THEM is that he doesn’t go FAR ENOUGH!

            If you don’t like V. V. Putin – just wait for the guys who will succeed him.

        2. Bill Howland says:

          That is such a stupid statement that it almost doesn’t deserve a response. Russia historically has been a friend of America for hundreds of years.

          To avoid problems with Idiots, Russia has completely signed on to the Paris Accord. The US to refresh your feeble mind, has not.

          Also, Russia has the most advanced Nuclear Technology having a few breeder plants in operation. We have none of this advanced technology. Since you’re so enthralled with Nuclear Technology, I’d think you would have been impressed.

        3. AndY1 says:

          FFS PuPu, this is the list of countries, that USA bombed since WW2: https://www.globalresearch.ca/list-of-countries-the-usa-has-bombed-since-the-end-of-world-war-ii/24626

          China 1945-46

          Korea 1950-53

          China 1950-53

          Guatemala 1954

          Indonesia 1958

          Cuba 1959-60

          Guatemala 1960

          Belgian Congo 1964

          Guatemala 1964

          Dominican Republic 1965-66

          Peru 1965

          Laos 1964-73

          Vietnam 1961-73

          Cambodia 1969-70

          Guatemala 1967-69

          Lebanon 1982-84

          Grenada 1983-84

          Libya 1986

          El Salvador 1981-92

          Nicaragua 1981-90

          Iran 1987-88

          Libya 1989

          Panama 1989-90

          Iraq 1991

          Kuwait 1991

          Somalia 1992-94

          Bosnia 1995

          Iran 1998

          Sudan 1998

          Afghanistan 1998

          Yugoslavia – Serbia 1999

          Afghanistan 2001

          Libya 2011

          The article ends at Libyia, but after Libya, there’s Syria, where USA is illegally and there’s Yemen and Somalia.

          https://wikispooks.com/wiki/US_Bombing_campaigns_since_1945

          1. Rick Danger says:

            Now you can add Niger to the list.

            Funny, nobody asks how we will pay for our trillion dollar wars, but we can’t seem to pay for our own education, healthcare and infrastructure.

            1. Bill Howland says:

              HAHAHA!

              When are people going to realize that taxes are merely levied to keep people in line?

              The National Debt is exceedingly understated, especially since the Army and Navy just had to do a $21,000,000,000,000 ‘adjustment’ to make the books balance between 2008 and 2015.

              Seeing as they only have a budget of $0.12 Trillion per year that is over twenty times the amount of money in their whole budgets.

              Rather like balancing your checkbook, and rather than adding or subtracting a dime, you add $65,000.

              Which is the size of the ‘adjustment’ for every man, woman and child in the states.

              Just think how many other ‘adjustments’ are made at other Federal Gov’t entities.

              People may be just a bit more than surprised when it is finally realized how many $$$ have been spent, and on what.

              Or, as I’ve said earlier, they’ll probably just go stumbling around saying “What Happened?”.

      2. Mark.ca says:

        “Nato Expansion such that there are 11 Nato bases right on Russia’s borders.”
        Bill, you will have to excuse the Romanians…they were not expecting Ukraine to become a Russian territory when they accepted the Americans to set camp.

        1. Bill Howland says:

          Just wrote a page long explanation then had it erased.

          Asst sec of state Victoria Nuland bragged in Feb 2014 it only cost $US 5 billion to overthrow the democratically elected gov’t. When others do this its called a Coup d’Etat.

          Crimea, historically part of Russia prior to the 1950’s, voted to rejoin Russia in 2 separate votes observed by 15 different countries with over a 90% plurality. If you knew why you’d be surprised why it wasn’t 100%.

          Crimea filled mainly with ethnic Russians, has been part of Russia longer than California has been part of the US.

          1. AndY1 says:

            Exactly!

            1. Bill Howland says:

              Andy1 Thanks for the supporting documentation. I don’t know who you are, or what country you are hailing from, but you obviously are an informed citizen.

              The idiocy you see here is mainly due to our lack of journalism for the past 70 years or so. Americans are (sorry to say) so Insouciant and laxy couch potatoes that they can be spoon-fed any propaganda and never bother to check its veracity, something you have done.

              It will not surprise me if idiots one day go walking around saying “what happened”? We as a people, unfortunately, are getting more clueless by the day.

    3. Mark.ca says:

      zzzzzz, if i were you i would be careful what i say about my boss…you know he’s watching you.

  3. Merv says:

    Well, knock me over with a feather! Putin, sitting on trillions in potentially stranded fossil fuel reserves doesn’t like EVs?

  4. vadik says:

    I mean setting up a stage for a bloody dictator is not really a morally good thing to do.

  5. God/Bacardi says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/world/europe/russia-tanker-christophe-de-margerie.html

    “Russian Tanker Completes Arctic Passage Without Aid of Icebreakers. A Russian-owned tanker, built to traverse the frozen waters of the Arctic, completed a journey in record time from Europe to Asia this month, auguring the future of shipping as global warming melts sea ice.” Could be the reason they don’t care…

  6. Jmk says:

    At least they are now building fast chargers. It’s finally possible to drive from Finland to St. Petersburg with a Tesla without too much pain. Charging is even free, I’m planning to give that a spin in March…

    1. SCOTT says:

      Better not badmouth Putin then. The FSB will throw you into a gulag.

  7. Dan says:

    Fake news!

  8. Don Zenga says:

    Yes, Natgas is definitely a cleaner alternative and there are 5 million NGVs worldwide led by
    China – 5 million
    Iran – 4 million
    India 3.1 million.

    In USA, its used by buses and trucks with their own refuelling network, sadly the automakers here don’t sell. They want to sell only gasmobiles. There are only 150,000 NGVs in USA.

    Of course electric vehicles will also benefit Russia as they have expertise in nuclear reactors and other power equipments.

    1. Bill Howland says:

      SO then Don Zenga you are saying that there are 12 million natural gas powered vehicles in the world, and currently somewhat less than 1 million electrics?

      Hummm, sounds like Natural Gas is making in-roads as the most POPULAR alternative energy vehicle. Of course in the states, it is only LARGE vehicles such as Semi-tractor-trailers, garbage trucks, and then Busses which transport huge numbers of people per vehicle (high productivity) with CNG and LNG fueling.

  9. Pushmi-Pullyu says:

    Vladimir Putin said:

    “I would like to note that we believe natural-gas-based motor fuel to be a much more environmentally friendly type of fuel compared to electric cars…”

    Gosh, if I didn’t know better, I might suspect that exporting natural gas was a major source of revenue for Russia. 🙄

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-03-01/putin-s-russia-seen-dominating-european-energy-for-two-decades

    Reality check: According to a 2007 comparison by DOE NETL Office of Fossil Energy, switching from petroleum fuel to compressed natural gas would save 41% in greenhouse gas emissions, as compared to a savings of 47% for electricity. (Obviously solar and wind generated electricity would save far more.)

    1. SCOTT says:

      I literally can’t wait to see the Putin regime fail. I hope Putin is deposed in a violent and painful fashion.

      1. AndY1 says:

        Putin has 80+% support of Russian people. How many % of support does your president have?

        1. Bill Howland says:

          Andy1 You’ve proven how STUPID some of these comments are.. Some of the people here truly know less than nothing… What country are you from, out of curiousity?

    2. Bar says:

      That is not a reality check.

      It is not physically possible to replace all the world’s use of petroleum fuels with biodiesel or sugar ethanol, etc. as there would then be no resources left to raise food. So, the confusion that using such fuels would be X or Y percent “better” is kinda meaningless and abstract.

    3. SJS says:

      Based on the graph, 41% reduction is for hydrogen, CNG is at 29%, no?

  10. K A Cheah says:

    It is easy for Russia with such a huge land mass to adopt sustainable energy but using high efficiency Solar PV & wind turbines, mini hydro and wave turbine’s development, production and utilization in Russia to create quality jobs and still export oil or natural gas to Europe at the same time but when their sustainable energy and power production exceeds own consumption they can then export the excess electrical energy and power to the European Union Countries to replace their depleted oil and gas resources in the future and with their sustainable energy & power in place they could correctly & rightly ban all the polluting diesel and petrol ICE Vehicles, Ships and Conventional Aircrafts simply adopt their replacements with Battery Electrical Ones to complete their obligations in their Paris Accord OK?

  11. dbostrom says:

    Of course Putin doesn’t like electric cars; his kleptocracy is mostly a barrel-barrel scramble for foreign exchange, barely floating on a hydrocarbon cushion. Take away oil & gas and after some intense ugliness Putin would be tattered history, dragged off his perch by a mob wanting to know where their country’s wealth went during the “good years.”

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